list http://www.spout.com/ Heroines in Hollywood recent group discussions Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/groups/Heroines_in_Hollywood/Horror_Flicks_Chicks/647/37661/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Horror Flicks + Chicks
Group Name: Heroines in Hollywood
Last Post By: Dr_Gor
Post Date: 11/26/2008 9:43:25 AM
Body: So, I've been watching a lot of zombie/vampire/horror flicks lately and noticed that honestly, it seems that some of the strongest female roles come from these films, such as Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld series and Van Helsing. However, you also have the helpless/hapless 'stupid girls' as in Scream, Carrie, etc. I'm kind of amazed by this dichotomy... it seems like in some senses horror films tend to be more 'pro-female' but at the same time there are just as many out there that pander to the 'stupid girl' image as well. Any thoughts?
]]>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:43:25 GMTHorror Flicks + ChicksHeroines in HollywoodSo, I've been watching a lot of zombie/vampire/horror flicks lately and noticed that honestly, it seems that some of the strongest female roles come from these films, such as Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld series and Van Helsing. However, you also have the helpless/hapless 'stupid girls' as in Scream, Carrie, etc. I'm kind of amazed by this dichotomy... it seems like in some senses horror films tend to be more 'pro-female' but at the same time there are just as many out there that pander to the 'stupid girl' image as well. Any thoughts?11/26/2008 9:43:25 AMSo, I've been watching a lot of zombie/vampire/horror flicks lately and noticed that honestly, it seems that some of the strongest female roles come from these films, such as Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld series and Van Helsing. However, you also have the helpless/hapless 'stupid girls' as in Scream, Carrie, etc. I'm kind of amazed by this dichotomy... it seems like in some senses horror films tend to be more 'pro-female' but at the same time there are just as many out there that pander to the 'stupid girl' image as well. Any thoughts? http://www.spout.com/groups/Heroines_in_Hollywood/Women_in_Hollywood_The_Good_the_Bad_the_Ugly/647/36539/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Women in Hollywood: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly.
Group Name: Heroines in Hollywood
Last Post By: seely
Post Date: 10/21/2008 9:53:54 AM
Body: We got a pretty good start to a list going for essential films dealing with issues surrounding femininity. One thing I noticed, however, is that the films seem predominately feminist/pro-woman. Generally speaking, Hollywood seems to have a negative image for its portrayal of women, from body image to passe stereotypes, however, our list seems to indicate otherwise. Some points for discussion: -Is this accurate, or are we just seeing a subversion of the old cultural standards? -How is Hollywood propogating or subverting the old stereotypes today? -Is Hollywood promoting a feminist agenda or not? Just some points to ponder. I have my opinions, but I'd love to hear everyone else's first...
]]>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:53:54 GMTWomen in Hollywood: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly.Heroines in HollywoodWe got a pretty good start to a list going for essential films dealing with issues surrounding femininity. One thing I noticed, however, is that the films seem predominately feminist/pro-woman. Generally speaking, Hollywood seems to have a negative image for its portrayal of women, from body image to passe stereotypes, however, our list seems to indicate otherwise. Some points for discussion: -Is this accurate, or are we just seeing a subversion of the old cultural standards? -How is Hollywood propogating or subverting the old stereotypes today? -Is Hollywood promoting a feminist agenda or not? Just some points to ponder. I have my opinions, but I'd love to hear everyone else's first...10/21/2008 9:53:54 AMWe got a pretty good start to a list going for essential films dealing with issues surrounding femininity. One thing I noticed, however, is that the films seem predominately feminist/pro-woman. Generally speaking, Hollywood seems to have a negative image for its portrayal of women, from body image to passe stereotypes, however, our list seems to indicate otherwise. Some points for discussion: -Is this accurate, or are we just seeing a subversion of the old cultural standards? -How is Hollywood propogating or subverting the old stereotypes today? -Is Hollywood promoting a feminist agenda or not? Just some points to ponder. I have my opinions, but I'd love to hear everyone else's first... http://www.spout.com/groups/Heroines_in_Hollywood/The_List/647/36437/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: The List!
Group Name: Heroines in Hollywood
Last Post By: Dr_Gor
Post Date: 10/17/2008 10:14:33 AM
Body: I'm hoping to get a list going here of 'essential' films featuriing women. In some way, these films should each create/portray some sort of archetype that somehow demonstrates an idea/stereotype/cultural standard for women. I'll start. I chose Kill Bill for the group picture because I feel that few films have shown so many different aspects and archetypes for women. The very fact that Uma Thurman's character is referred to as 'The Bride' is worthy of note in and of itself. Her character goes from sword-wielding-sexy-vixen to nuturing mother to vengeful kung-fu killer to mother bear to... well, you get the point. I'm not sure any other film hits so many cultural archetypes so clearly. Was there an intentional message in all of this? I'm not even really sure, however I feel that Kill Bill leaves the audience with a sense that women are deeper than the typical shallow one-sided portrayal that is so painfully common on the silver screen. I would actually be so bold as to submit this as a feminist film.
]]>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:14:33 GMTThe List!Heroines in HollywoodI'm hoping to get a list going here of 'essential' films featuriing women. In some way, these films should each create/portray some sort of archetype that somehow demonstrates an idea/stereotype/cultural standard for women. I'll start. I chose Kill Bill for the group picture because I feel that few films have shown so many different aspects and archetypes for women. The very fact that Uma Thurman's character is referred to as 'The Bride' is worthy of note in and of itself. Her character goes from sword-wielding-sexy-vixen to nuturing mother to vengeful kung-fu killer to mother bear to... well, you get the point. I'm not sure any other film hits so many cultural archetypes so clearly. Was there an intentional message in all of this? I'm not even really sure, however I feel that Kill Bill leaves the audience with a sense that women are deeper than the typical shallow one-sided portrayal that is so painfully common on the silver screen. I would actually be so bold as to submit this as a feminist film.10/17/2008 10:14:33 AMI'm hoping to get a list going here of 'essential' films featuriing women. In some way, these films should each create/portray some sort of archetype that somehow demonstrates an idea/stereotype/cultural standard for women. I'll start. I chose Kill Bill for the group picture because I feel that few films have shown so many different aspects and archetypes for women. The very fact that Uma Thurman's character is referred to as 'The Bride' is worthy of note in and of itself. Her character goes from sword-wielding-sexy-vixen to nuturing mother to vengeful kung-fu killer to mother bear to... well, you get the point. I'm not sure any other film hits so many cultural archetypes so clearly. Was there an intentional message in all of this? I'm not even really sure, however I feel that Kill Bill leaves the audience with a sense that women are deeper than the typical shallow one-sided portrayal that is so painfully common on the silver screen. I would actually be so bold as to submit this as a feminist film. http://www.spout.com/groups/Heroines_in_Hollywood/Welcome/647/36436/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Welcome...
Group Name: Heroines in Hollywood
Last Post By: Dr_Gor
Post Date: 10/17/2008 10:03:23 AM
Body: Hollywood has always been notorious for its portrayal of women. From the helpless damsel-in-distress commonly potrayed in the first half of the 20th century, to the vengeful, blood thirsty (yet still sexual) badass of more modern films. I hope we can discuss how the roles have evolved, what they are saying (and what they aren't), and how this has impacted and reflected on cultural views of women. Don't think I am limiting this discussion though--we're open to anything!
]]>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:03:23 GMTWelcome...Heroines in HollywoodHollywood has always been notorious for its portrayal of women. From the helpless damsel-in-distress commonly potrayed in the first half of the 20th century, to the vengeful, blood thirsty (yet still sexual) badass of more modern films. I hope we can discuss how the roles have evolved, what they are saying (and what they aren't), and how this has impacted and reflected on cultural views of women. Don't think I am limiting this discussion though--we're open to anything!10/17/2008 10:03:23 AMHollywood has always been notorious for its portrayal of women. From the helpless damsel-in-distress commonly potrayed in the first half of the 20th century, to the vengeful, blood thirsty (yet still sexual) badass of more modern films. I hope we can discuss how the roles have evolved, what they are saying (and what they aren't), and how this has impacted and reflected on cultural views of women. Don't think I am limiting this discussion though--we're open to anything!