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Group Name: B Movies
Last Post By: Dr_Gor
Post Date: 10/15/2008 11:22:59 AM
Body: There seems to be a bit of a trend today with post-modern cinema to create a film that has the traditional look/feel of a "B" flick of days past, but really was carefully designed and crafted to give that impression, using big name actors, state of the art filming, etc. Curious what everyone thinks about this? Is it disingenuous, dishonest, or a great homage to the almighty B flick...? Why are filmmakers choosing to create something with a low-budget look when they have all the resources they need to be the next Michael Bay? I have plenty of my own theories, but am curious to hear everyone else's first... ---- Just some easy examples I can think of would be almost any Tarantino film (Kill Bill being a solid example), or a lot of Wes Andersen's post-"Bottle Rocket" work.
]]>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:22:59 GMT"B" flicks created on an "A" budget?B MoviesThere seems to be a bit of a trend today with post-modern cinema to create a film that has the traditional look/feel of a "B" flick of days past, but really was carefully designed and crafted to give that impression, using big name actors, state of the art filming, etc. Curious what everyone thinks about this? Is it disingenuous, dishonest, or a great homage to the almighty B flick...? Why are filmmakers choosing to create something with a low-budget look when they have all the resources they need to be the next Michael Bay? I have plenty of my own theories, but am curious to hear everyone else's first... ---- Just some easy examples I can think of would be almost any Tarantino film (Kill Bill being a solid example), or a lot of Wes Andersen's post-"Bottle Rocket" work.10/15/2008 11:22:59 AMThere seems to be a bit of a trend today with post-modern cinema to create a film that has the traditional look/feel of a "B" flick of days past, but really was carefully designed and crafted to give that impression, using big name actors, state of the art filming, etc. Curious what everyone thinks about this? Is it disingenuous, dishonest, or a great homage to the almighty B flick...? Why are filmmakers choosing to create something with a low-budget look when they have all the resources they need to be the next Michael Bay? I have plenty of my own theories, but am curious to hear everyone else's first... ---- Just some easy examples I can think of would be almost any Tarantino film (Kill Bill being a solid example), or a lot of Wes Andersen's post-"Bottle Rocket" work. http://www.spout.com/groups/B_Movies/Albert_Pyun/588/37345/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Albert Pyun
Group Name: B Movies
Last Post By: Risselada
Post Date: 11/15/2008 2:22:54 PM
Body: I just read a bio on IMDB of a director named Albert Pyun. I'd never heard of him before or seen any of his movies, but these exerpts from his bio make me pretty interested: No other film director has been so much vituperated against as Albert Pyun. Frequently compared with Edward D. Wood Jr., they both share a fascination for the bizarre. Pyun has a feel for the stylistic and hypnotic, changing the conventions of fiction, and makes each of his movies extreme experiences. ... He usually has to overcome budget shortages, re-editing and other kind of damage caused by producers and distributors intendingto bury his authorship. The swiftness of his shooting of movies gives way for an avant-garde exploration, and Albert Pyun belongs to that lineage of film makers not appreciated as it should. To define Pyun, we could call him a sort of Jean-Luc Godard from the B (or Z) series. Albert Pyun has completed more than forty films over the worst circumstances. I encourage you to reaed the full bio. Has anyone seen any of this guy's films? Anything anyone wants to mention about him?
]]>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:22:54 GMTAlbert PyunB MoviesI just read a bio on IMDB of a director named Albert Pyun. I'd never heard of him before or seen any of his movies, but these exerpts from his bio make me pretty interested: No other film director has been so much vituperated against as Albert Pyun. Frequently compared with Edward D. Wood Jr., they both share a fascination for the bizarre. Pyun has a feel for the stylistic and hypnotic, changing the conventions of fiction, and makes each of his movies extreme experiences. ... He usually has to overcome budget shortages, re-editing and other kind of damage caused by producers and distributors intendingto bury his authorship. The swiftness of his shooting of movies gives way for an avant-garde exploration, and Albert Pyun belongs to that lineage of film makers not appreciated as it should. To define Pyun, we could call him a sort of Jean-Luc Godard from the B (or Z) series. Albert Pyun has completed more than forty films over the worst circumstances. I encourage you to reaed the full bio. Has anyone seen any of this guy's films? Anything anyone wants to mention about him?11/15/2008 2:22:54 PMI just read a bio on IMDB of a director named Albert Pyun. I'd never heard of him before or seen any of his movies, but these exerpts from his bio make me pretty interested: No other film director has been so much vituperated against as Albert Pyun. Frequently compared with Edward D. Wood Jr., they both share a fascination for the bizarre. Pyun has a feel for the stylistic and hypnotic, changing the conventions of fiction, and makes each of his movies extreme experiences. ... He usually has to overcome budget shortages, re-editing and other kind of damage caused by producers and distributors intendingto bury his authorship. The swiftness of his shooting of movies gives way for an avant-garde exploration, and Albert Pyun belongs to that lineage of film makers not appreciated as it should. To define Pyun, we could call him a sort of Jean-Luc Godard from the B (or Z) series. Albert Pyun has completed more than forty films over the worst circumstances. I encourage you to reaed the full bio. Has anyone seen any of this guy's films? Anything anyone wants to mention about him? http://www.spout.com/groups/B_Movies/Your_Star_Vehicle/588/27842/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Your Star Vehicle
Group Name: B Movies
Last Post By: seely
Post Date: 4/25/2008 11:10:24 PM
Body: I was telling a friend how much fun I had with Talladega Nights and Semi-Pro, and she said "It seems like they're writing movies specifically for Will Ferrell." I agree. It's hard to imagine these movies existing without Ferrell. Like imagining Kane without Welles. So if someone wrote a vehicle for you, what would it be? Mine would be a sword-and-sorcery epic that begins in this world but takes me to a mythological Dark Age of warriors and wizards. I would become both a warrior and a wizard. There would be a scene where I best an ogre that set up a toll booth on a bridge, and there would be a scene where I frighten a dragon, making it squeal like a little girly dragon. It would be called something like Axehand or Gauntlethand.
]]>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:10:24 GMTYour Star VehicleB MoviesI was telling a friend how much fun I had with Talladega Nights and Semi-Pro, and she said "It seems like they're writing movies specifically for Will Ferrell." I agree. It's hard to imagine these movies existing without Ferrell. Like imagining Kane without Welles. So if someone wrote a vehicle for you, what would it be? Mine would be a sword-and-sorcery epic that begins in this world but takes me to a mythological Dark Age of warriors and wizards. I would become both a warrior and a wizard. There would be a scene where I best an ogre that set up a toll booth on a bridge, and there would be a scene where I frighten a dragon, making it squeal like a little girly dragon. It would be called something like Axehand or Gauntlethand.4/25/2008 11:10:24 PMI was telling a friend how much fun I had with Talladega Nights and Semi-Pro, and she said "It seems like they're writing movies specifically for Will Ferrell." I agree. It's hard to imagine these movies existing without Ferrell. Like imagining Kane without Welles. So if someone wrote a vehicle for you, what would it be? Mine would be a sword-and-sorcery epic that begins in this world but takes me to a mythological Dark Age of warriors and wizards. I would become both a warrior and a wizard. There would be a scene where I best an ogre that set up a toll booth on a bridge, and there would be a scene where I frighten a dragon, making it squeal like a little girly dragon. It would be called something like Axehand or Gauntlethand. http://www.spout.com/groups/B_Movies/B_is_the_new_B_Modern_B_Movies/588/31796/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: B+ is the new B (Modern B Movies)
Group Name: B Movies
Last Post By: SkyPilot
Post Date: 6/27/2008 2:28:20 PM
Body: One of the most enjoyable movies I've seen recently is a bizarre but cookin' action movie called Doomsday. It's Neil Marshall's (Dog Soldiers, The Descent) latest horror/sci-fi movie. Doomsday is like Escape From New York meets The Stand. It's post-apocalyptic filmmaking at its most enjoyable. And I've got to talk about how regarding violence, this movie has its cake and eats it too. This is a graphic film; for short burts it's as graphic as Passion of the Christ or the new Rambo, which both disturbed me quite a bit. What's strange is that while I found the intense violence in Passion or Rambo to be much more sickening than entertaining, the violence of Doomsday really appealed to me as entertainment. What is even stranger is that one of the themes of Doomsday is the futile and selfish nature of cruelty... so it somehow manages to be really fun-violent while trying to unmask actual fun-violence as an abomination! And it's got killer car chases and fight scenes, too. WTF? This is surely a strange kind of great movie! Anyone know of a big-studio production that's as complex and fun as this? My contention is that the studios largely don't know how to pull this kind of thing off. I recommend this to all sci-fi and horror fans, anyone interested in violence in films, and anybody who likes wild rides. You'll be shaken and stirred by this movie, and you'll be smiling woozily when the ride gets over. PS--For those interested in the setup: when a deadly virus breaks out in Scotland, the UK quarantines the entire nation. A giant wall is constructed, and the virus is successfully contained. The world tries to forget about how they left Scotland to rot.Twenty years on, it looks like the same virus has suddenly appeared in downtown London. An elite military team is briefed that there is evidence of survivors in Glasgow, Scotland. The team has twenty-four hours to find these survivors--if in fact they really exist--and find out how they survived the epidemic. The viewer's joy ensues.
]]>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:28:20 GMTB+ is the new B (Modern B Movies)B MoviesOne of the most enjoyable movies I've seen recently is a bizarre but cookin' action movie called Doomsday. It's Neil Marshall's (Dog Soldiers, The Descent) latest horror/sci-fi movie. Doomsday is like Escape From New York meets The Stand. It's post-apocalyptic filmmaking at its most enjoyable. And I've got to talk about how regarding violence, this movie has its cake and eats it too. This is a graphic film; for short burts it's as graphic as Passion of the Christ or the new Rambo, which both disturbed me quite a bit. What's strange is that while I found the intense violence in Passion or Rambo to be much more sickening than entertaining, the violence of Doomsday really appealed to me as entertainment. What is even stranger is that one of the themes of Doomsday is the futile and selfish nature of cruelty... so it somehow manages to be really fun-violent while trying to unmask actual fun-violence as an abomination! And it's got killer car chases and fight scenes, too. WTF? This is surely a strange kind of great movie! Anyone know of a big-studio production that's as complex and fun as this? My contention is that the studios largely don't know how to pull this kind of thing off. I recommend this to all sci-fi and horror fans, anyone interested in violence in films, and anybody who likes wild rides. You'll be shaken and stirred by this movie, and you'll be smiling woozily when the ride gets over. PS--For those interested in the setup: when a deadly virus breaks out in Scotland, the UK quarantines the entire nation. A giant wall is constructed, and the virus is successfully contained. The world tries to forget about how they left Scotland to rot.Twenty years on, it looks like the same virus has suddenly appeared in downtown London. An elite military team is briefed that there is evidence of survivors in Glasgow, Scotland. The team has twenty-four hours to find these survivors--if in fact they really exist--and find out how they survived the epidemic. The viewer's joy ensues.6/27/2008 2:28:20 PMOne of the most enjoyable movies I've seen recently is a bizarre but cookin' action movie called Doomsday. It's Neil Marshall's (Dog Soldiers, The Descent) latest horror/sci-fi movie. Doomsday is like Escape From New York meets The Stand. It's post-apocalyptic filmmaking at its most enjoyable. And I've got to talk about how regarding violence, this movie has its cake and eats it too. This is a graphic film; for short burts it's as graphic as Passion of the Christ or the new Rambo, which both disturbed me quite a bit. What's strange is that while I found the intense violence in Passion or Rambo to be much more sickening than entertaining, the violence of Doomsday really appealed to me as entertainment. What is even stranger is that one of the themes of Doomsday is the futile and selfish nature of cruelty... so it somehow manages to be really fun-violent while trying to unmask actual fun-violence as an abomination! And it's got killer car chases and fight scenes, too. WTF? This is surely a strange kind of great movie! Anyone know of a big-studio production that's as complex and fun as this? My contention is that the studios largely don't know how to pull this kind of thing off. I recommend this to all sci-fi and horror fans, anyone interested in violence in films, and anybody who likes wild rides. You'll be shaken and stirred by this movie, and you'll be smiling woozily when the ride gets over. PS--For those interested in the setup: when a deadly virus breaks out in Scotland, the UK quarantines the entire nation. A giant wall is constructed, and the virus is successfully contained. The world tries to forget about how they left Scotland to rot.Twenty years on, it looks like the same virus has suddenly appeared in downtown London. An elite military team is briefed that there is evidence of survivors in Glasgow, Scotland. The team has twenty-four hours to find these survivors--if in fact they really exist--and find out how they survived the epidemic. The viewer's joy ensues. http://www.spout.com/groups/B_Movies/Double_features/588/27653/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: Double features
Group Name: B Movies
Last Post By: Dr_Gor
Post Date: 4/22/2008 3:09:20 PM
Body: I've only been to one or two double features in my life, but they were both great experiences. Even though Kill Bill Vol. 1 was preceded by Payback instead of the original Point Blank! Even though the movies at the drive-in were S.W.A.T. and Bad Boys 2! Some double features I'd pay to see anywhere: 1. Escape From New York, then Doomsday 2. Bucket of Blood, then The Abominable Dr. Phibes 3. The Black Scorpion, then The Mighty Peking Man 4. If You Live, Shoot! then Point Blank 5. Dog Soldiers, then Big Trouble in Little China
]]>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:09:20 GMTDouble featuresB MoviesI've only been to one or two double features in my life, but they were both great experiences. Even though Kill Bill Vol. 1 was preceded by Payback instead of the original Point Blank! Even though the movies at the drive-in were S.W.A.T. and Bad Boys 2! Some double features I'd pay to see anywhere: 1. Escape From New York, then Doomsday 2. Bucket of Blood, then The Abominable Dr. Phibes 3. The Black Scorpion, then The Mighty Peking Man 4. If You Live, Shoot! then Point Blank 5. Dog Soldiers, then Big Trouble in Little China4/22/2008 3:09:20 PMI've only been to one or two double features in my life, but they were both great experiences. Even though Kill Bill Vol. 1 was preceded by Payback instead of the original Point Blank! Even though the movies at the drive-in were S.W.A.T. and Bad Boys 2! Some double features I'd pay to see anywhere: 1. Escape From New York, then Doomsday 2. Bucket of Blood, then The Abominable Dr. Phibes 3. The Black Scorpion, then The Mighty Peking Man 4. If You Live, Shoot! then Point Blank 5. Dog Soldiers, then Big Trouble in Little China http://www.spout.com/groups/B_Movies/No_sir_I_don_t_like_it/588/29148/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: No sir, I don't like it
Group Name: B Movies
Last Post By: Risselada
Post Date: 5/14/2008 2:18:40 AM
Body: You know the horse from Ren and Stimpy? MISTER HORSE: Hmmm... (rubs chin with hoof, wags tail) No sir, I don't like it. That's what I'm like when I wonder if I liked Eraserhead. I recently saw it for the third time. It was showing in an independent movie theatre, and there was a guy in the lobby trying to decide if he should see it. He asked me, "Is it good?" "Not really, but you'll never forget it." "That's what everyone's saying!" he said. Have you guys had movie experiences like this? Do you have a name for them? And why do I keep watching Eraserhead if I can't even say I like it? Circle of Iron is a little like this for me too, though I have more fun watching that movie than Eraserhead. I struggle for the metaphors to describe what it's like for me to watch Circle of Iron... It's like drinking celery-flavored pop, then burping a little bit of warm soda back into my mouth, and then laughing.
]]>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:18:40 GMTNo sir, I don't like itB MoviesYou know the horse from Ren and Stimpy? MISTER HORSE: Hmmm... (rubs chin with hoof, wags tail) No sir, I don't like it. That's what I'm like when I wonder if I liked Eraserhead. I recently saw it for the third time. It was showing in an independent movie theatre, and there was a guy in the lobby trying to decide if he should see it. He asked me, "Is it good?" "Not really, but you'll never forget it." "That's what everyone's saying!" he said. Have you guys had movie experiences like this? Do you have a name for them? And why do I keep watching Eraserhead if I can't even say I like it? Circle of Iron is a little like this for me too, though I have more fun watching that movie than Eraserhead. I struggle for the metaphors to describe what it's like for me to watch Circle of Iron... It's like drinking celery-flavored pop, then burping a little bit of warm soda back into my mouth, and then laughing. 5/14/2008 2:18:40 AMYou know the horse from Ren and Stimpy? MISTER HORSE: Hmmm... (rubs chin with hoof, wags tail) No sir, I don't like it. That's what I'm like when I wonder if I liked Eraserhead. I recently saw it for the third time. It was showing in an independent movie theatre, and there was a guy in the lobby trying to decide if he should see it. He asked me, "Is it good?" "Not really, but you'll never forget it." "That's what everyone's saying!" he said. Have you guys had movie experiences like this? Do you have a name for them? And why do I keep watching Eraserhead if I can't even say I like it? Circle of Iron is a little like this for me too, though I have more fun watching that movie than Eraserhead. I struggle for the metaphors to describe what it's like for me to watch Circle of Iron... It's like drinking celery-flavored pop, then burping a little bit of warm soda back into my mouth, and then laughing. http://www.spout.com/groups/B_Movies/_7_Champagne/588/27643/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: $7 Champagne
Group Name: B Movies
Last Post By: Dr_Gor
Post Date: 4/22/2008 2:04:08 PM
Body: B movies can be like a seven dollar bottle of champagne, miles away from the real thing but every bit as fun.I sometimes wonder if the most "alive," vervacious movies are necessarily made on a low budget...Compare Star Wars: Episode IV to Episode I. Or True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction on the one hand -- the getting-bloated Kill Bill 2 on the other hand, followed by the totally hit-and-miss Death Proof.Energy and entropy, Mssrs. Lucas and Tarantino! What's going on here, money or ego?
]]>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:04:08 GMT$7 ChampagneB MoviesB movies can be like a seven dollar bottle of champagne, miles away from the real thing but every bit as fun.I sometimes wonder if the most "alive," vervacious movies are necessarily made on a low budget...Compare Star Wars: Episode IV to Episode I. Or True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction on the one hand -- the getting-bloated Kill Bill 2 on the other hand, followed by the totally hit-and-miss Death Proof.Energy and entropy, Mssrs. Lucas and Tarantino! What's going on here, money or ego? 4/22/2008 2:04:08 PMB movies can be like a seven dollar bottle of champagne, miles away from the real thing but every bit as fun.I sometimes wonder if the most "alive," vervacious movies are necessarily made on a low budget...Compare Star Wars: Episode IV to Episode I. Or True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, and Pulp Fiction on the one hand -- the getting-bloated Kill Bill 2 on the other hand, followed by the totally hit-and-miss Death Proof.Energy and entropy, Mssrs. Lucas and Tarantino! What's going on here, money or ego?