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Group Name: Sundance
Last Post By: rjsprague
Post Date: 1/9/2009 1:35:01 PM
Body: This discussion thread is for providing easy viewing of as many of the films as possible that will be showing at Sundance 2009. Enjoy!
]]>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:35:01 GMTSundance 2009 TrailersSundanceThis discussion thread is for providing easy viewing of as many of the films as possible that will be showing at Sundance 2009. Enjoy!1/9/2009 1:35:01 PMThis discussion thread is for providing easy viewing of as many of the films as possible that will be showing at Sundance 2009. Enjoy! http://www.spout.com/groups/Sundance/10_Worst_Sundance_Sensations/532/39566/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: 10 Worst Sundance Sensations?
Group Name: Sundance
Last Post By: SkyPilot
Post Date: 1/15/2009 2:34:28 PM
Body: Reading Chris Campbell's 10 Worst Sundance Sensations is sort of like listening to someone bash your old friends. My affection for some of these films makes it hard to say whether I agree with any of his picks, which include Napoleon Dynamite, Garden State, and Brick. I can't argue with someone who says Napoleon Dynamite isn't funny, but I will argue with Chris when he says "Napoleon Dynamite is not comedy. It is merely quirky, which is not the same thing as funny." I don't mean to sound like a philosophy undergrad, but you asked for it, Chris: what is "funny"? He made me smile when he called Garden State a "homecoming of age" movie that spawned a hundred like it. Get this, though: "Any idiot can write a script of this type and fill it with quirky scenery and an obnoxious yet adorable love interest." Obviously Chris knows a lot of talented idiots. I appreciated his writing about Brick, especially the part where he says "Who wouldn't rather watch a double feature of The Big Sleep and Heathers?" Then I thought, 'I liked Brick. I thought it was gritty and exciting. How is Chris changing my mind when he's not even explaining why the movie is bad?' But maybe Chris's oldest selections are a good indicator of his judgment? I haven't seen Boxing Helena (1993) or The Brothers McMullen (1995), and I didn't even know Ed Burns was a writer/director! One of my coworkers just told me Burns was a really 'in vogue' filmmaker for a while. What do you guys think, are Jared Hess (Napoleon Dynamite, Nacho Libre), Rian Johnson (Brick, The Brothers Bloom), and Zack Braff along the same lines? In another ten years, will people be saying, "I didn't know Zack Braff was a writer/director!"
]]>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:34:28 GMT10 Worst Sundance Sensations?SundanceReading Chris Campbell's 10 Worst Sundance Sensations is sort of like listening to someone bash your old friends. My affection for some of these films makes it hard to say whether I agree with any of his picks, which include Napoleon Dynamite, Garden State, and Brick. I can't argue with someone who says Napoleon Dynamite isn't funny, but I will argue with Chris when he says "Napoleon Dynamite is not comedy. It is merely quirky, which is not the same thing as funny." I don't mean to sound like a philosophy undergrad, but you asked for it, Chris: what is "funny"? He made me smile when he called Garden State a "homecoming of age" movie that spawned a hundred like it. Get this, though: "Any idiot can write a script of this type and fill it with quirky scenery and an obnoxious yet adorable love interest." Obviously Chris knows a lot of talented idiots. I appreciated his writing about Brick, especially the part where he says "Who wouldn't rather watch a double feature of The Big Sleep and Heathers?" Then I thought, 'I liked Brick. I thought it was gritty and exciting. How is Chris changing my mind when he's not even explaining why the movie is bad?' But maybe Chris's oldest selections are a good indicator of his judgment? I haven't seen Boxing Helena (1993) or The Brothers McMullen (1995), and I didn't even know Ed Burns was a writer/director! One of my coworkers just told me Burns was a really 'in vogue' filmmaker for a while. What do you guys think, are Jared Hess (Napoleon Dynamite, Nacho Libre), Rian Johnson (Brick, The Brothers Bloom), and Zack Braff along the same lines? In another ten years, will people be saying, "I didn't know Zack Braff was a writer/director!"1/15/2009 2:34:28 PMReading Chris Campbell's 10 Worst Sundance Sensations is sort of like listening to someone bash your old friends. My affection for some of these films makes it hard to say whether I agree with any of his picks, which include Napoleon Dynamite, Garden State, and Brick. I can't argue with someone who says Napoleon Dynamite isn't funny, but I will argue with Chris when he says "Napoleon Dynamite is not comedy. It is merely quirky, which is not the same thing as funny." I don't mean to sound like a philosophy undergrad, but you asked for it, Chris: what is "funny"? He made me smile when he called Garden State a "homecoming of age" movie that spawned a hundred like it. Get this, though: "Any idiot can write a script of this type and fill it with quirky scenery and an obnoxious yet adorable love interest." Obviously Chris knows a lot of talented idiots. I appreciated his writing about Brick, especially the part where he says "Who wouldn't rather watch a double feature of The Big Sleep and Heathers?" Then I thought, 'I liked Brick. I thought it was gritty and exciting. How is Chris changing my mind when he's not even explaining why the movie is bad?' But maybe Chris's oldest selections are a good indicator of his judgment? I haven't seen Boxing Helena (1993) or The Brothers McMullen (1995), and I didn't even know Ed Burns was a writer/director! One of my coworkers just told me Burns was a really 'in vogue' filmmaker for a while. What do you guys think, are Jared Hess (Napoleon Dynamite, Nacho Libre), Rian Johnson (Brick, The Brothers Bloom), and Zack Braff along the same lines? In another ten years, will people be saying, "I didn't know Zack Braff was a writer/director!" http://www.spout.com/groups/Sundance/THE_CLONE_RETURNS_HOME_sci_fi_and_snobs/532/39388/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: THE CLONE RETURNS HOME -- sci-fi and snobs
Group Name: Sundance
Last Post By: Risselada
Post Date: 1/12/2009 10:39:04 AM
Body: Okay, now I can't wait to see The Clone Returns Home. The idea is this: when an astronaut named Kohei dies on a space mission, his superiors create a clone (that I'll call K2) who's supposed to have a fully "regenerated" body and memory. Only there's a problem with K2's memory: Kohei's twin brother died in their childhood, and these memories overwhelm K2. I recommend reading the description, which is really interesting. What interests me most is that K2 unexpectedly dwells on the childhood memories of the brother's death. It seems that scientists could reproduce the data of Kohei's memories, but not all the blood, sweat and tears that went into dealing with them. This makes me think about grief, about how the only way around it is through it, and I'll be interested to see if the movie implies that Kohei himself had never adequately confronted his grief. The Clone Returns Home makes sci-fi seem like the perfect arena for themes like this. When talking to people about your favorite stories, do you ever find that others may seem interested until they figure out it's sci-fi or horror or fantasy? Then they suddenly get this superior look in their eye? That would happen to me when I'd tell people I thought World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War was the best new novel I'd read in years. What are stories you've been looked down on for thinking they were great?
]]>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:39:04 GMTTHE CLONE RETURNS HOME -- sci-fi and snobsSundance Okay, now I can't wait to see The Clone Returns Home. The idea is this: when an astronaut named Kohei dies on a space mission, his superiors create a clone (that I'll call K2) who's supposed to have a fully "regenerated" body and memory. Only there's a problem with K2's memory: Kohei's twin brother died in their childhood, and these memories overwhelm K2. I recommend reading the description, which is really interesting. What interests me most is that K2 unexpectedly dwells on the childhood memories of the brother's death. It seems that scientists could reproduce the data of Kohei's memories, but not all the blood, sweat and tears that went into dealing with them. This makes me think about grief, about how the only way around it is through it, and I'll be interested to see if the movie implies that Kohei himself had never adequately confronted his grief. The Clone Returns Home makes sci-fi seem like the perfect arena for themes like this. When talking to people about your favorite stories, do you ever find that others may seem interested until they figure out it's sci-fi or horror or fantasy? Then they suddenly get this superior look in their eye? That would happen to me when I'd tell people I thought World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War was the best new novel I'd read in years. What are stories you've been looked down on for thinking they were great? 1/12/2009 10:39:04 AM Okay, now I can't wait to see The Clone Returns Home. The idea is this: when an astronaut named Kohei dies on a space mission, his superiors create a clone (that I'll call K2) who's supposed to have a fully "regenerated" body and memory. Only there's a problem with K2's memory: Kohei's twin brother died in their childhood, and these memories overwhelm K2. I recommend reading the description, which is really interesting. What interests me most is that K2 unexpectedly dwells on the childhood memories of the brother's death. It seems that scientists could reproduce the data of Kohei's memories, but not all the blood, sweat and tears that went into dealing with them. This makes me think about grief, about how the only way around it is through it, and I'll be interested to see if the movie implies that Kohei himself had never adequately confronted his grief. The Clone Returns Home makes sci-fi seem like the perfect arena for themes like this. When talking to people about your favorite stories, do you ever find that others may seem interested until they figure out it's sci-fi or horror or fantasy? Then they suddenly get this superior look in their eye? That would happen to me when I'd tell people I thought World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War was the best new novel I'd read in years. What are stories you've been looked down on for thinking they were great? http://www.spout.com/groups/Sundance/HUMPDAY_and_amateur_porn/532/39334/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: HUMPDAY and amateur porn
Group Name: Sundance
Last Post By: SkyPilot
Post Date: 1/9/2009 5:37:49 PM
Body: Is the amateurs-making-porn genre here to stay? Perhaps as long as porn is around? Humpday reminds me of a few films I've seen over the last few years. The description makes me think I'll either sort of like it or really, really hate it. Either way, I'd like to see it. Nutshell pitch: two old college buddies who are prone to one-upsmanship dare one another to enter an amateur porn competition. They eventually decide their best chance to win is to have sex with one another. This isn't about being gay, they say; this is art. I'm interested in Humpday for a lot of reasons. For one thing, the writer/director (Lynn Shelton) is a woman, so I'm excited to see how she handles this story that seems to be primarily about men. The Sundance description ends, "her craft shines brightest when our two gentlemen finally get down to the task at hand: creating a classic 'wriggle in your seat' moment of truth." That reminds me of another film about amateur pornographers called Dear Pillow (2004), which was overflowing with such 'wriggle in your seat' moments. I liked Dear Pillow more than The Amateurs (2005), but The Amateurs had some merit too. Both films are interested in how creating pornography can affect the relationships of those involved. (I haven't seen Zack and Miri Make a Porno, but I've heard that theme's in there, too.) Dear Pillow went further than The Amateurs by looking at how merely consuming pornography can affect one's relationships. I'd love to hear from anyone who sees this movie at Sundance--is it just a re-tread of these older films? I doubt it. Another thing I don't know is whether all of these recent films are just retreading older amateurs-making-porn films. Have you guys seen older movies about pornographers?
]]>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:37:49 GMTHUMPDAY and amateur pornSundance Is the amateurs-making-porn genre here to stay? Perhaps as long as porn is around? Humpday reminds me of a few films I've seen over the last few years. The description makes me think I'll either sort of like it or really, really hate it. Either way, I'd like to see it. Nutshell pitch: two old college buddies who are prone to one-upsmanship dare one another to enter an amateur porn competition. They eventually decide their best chance to win is to have sex with one another. This isn't about being gay, they say; this is art. I'm interested in Humpday for a lot of reasons. For one thing, the writer/director (Lynn Shelton) is a woman, so I'm excited to see how she handles this story that seems to be primarily about men. The Sundance description ends, "her craft shines brightest when our two gentlemen finally get down to the task at hand: creating a classic 'wriggle in your seat' moment of truth." That reminds me of another film about amateur pornographers called Dear Pillow (2004), which was overflowing with such 'wriggle in your seat' moments. I liked Dear Pillow more than The Amateurs (2005), but The Amateurs had some merit too. Both films are interested in how creating pornography can affect the relationships of those involved. (I haven't seen Zack and Miri Make a Porno, but I've heard that theme's in there, too.) Dear Pillow went further than The Amateurs by looking at how merely consuming pornography can affect one's relationships. I'd love to hear from anyone who sees this movie at Sundance--is it just a re-tread of these older films? I doubt it. Another thing I don't know is whether all of these recent films are just retreading older amateurs-making-porn films. Have you guys seen older movies about pornographers? 1/9/2009 5:37:49 PM Is the amateurs-making-porn genre here to stay? Perhaps as long as porn is around? Humpday reminds me of a few films I've seen over the last few years. The description makes me think I'll either sort of like it or really, really hate it. Either way, I'd like to see it. Nutshell pitch: two old college buddies who are prone to one-upsmanship dare one another to enter an amateur porn competition. They eventually decide their best chance to win is to have sex with one another. This isn't about being gay, they say; this is art. I'm interested in Humpday for a lot of reasons. For one thing, the writer/director (Lynn Shelton) is a woman, so I'm excited to see how she handles this story that seems to be primarily about men. The Sundance description ends, "her craft shines brightest when our two gentlemen finally get down to the task at hand: creating a classic 'wriggle in your seat' moment of truth." That reminds me of another film about amateur pornographers called Dear Pillow (2004), which was overflowing with such 'wriggle in your seat' moments. I liked Dear Pillow more than The Amateurs (2005), but The Amateurs had some merit too. Both films are interested in how creating pornography can affect the relationships of those involved. (I haven't seen Zack and Miri Make a Porno, but I've heard that theme's in there, too.) Dear Pillow went further than The Amateurs by looking at how merely consuming pornography can affect one's relationships. I'd love to hear from anyone who sees this movie at Sundance--is it just a re-tread of these older films? I doubt it. Another thing I don't know is whether all of these recent films are just retreading older amateurs-making-porn films. Have you guys seen older movies about pornographers? http://www.spout.com/groups/Sundance/The_Film_at_Sundance_08_I_have_to_see_is/532/23891/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: The Film at Sundance 08 I have to see is...
Group Name: Sundance
Last Post By: leeli
Post Date: 1/14/2008 10:23:33 PM
Body: I'm really looking forward to Time Crimes, Sleep Dealer, and Up the Yangtze. I do want to see the Mary-Kate Olsen/Ben Kingsley/Method Man circus The Wackness, but more because of all the "isn't this so crazy..." buzz. My hunch is the film will be unremarkable.
]]>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:23:33 GMTThe Film at Sundance 08 I have to see is...SundanceI'm really looking forward to Time Crimes, Sleep Dealer, and Up the Yangtze. I do want to see the Mary-Kate Olsen/Ben Kingsley/Method Man circus The Wackness, but more because of all the "isn't this so crazy..." buzz. My hunch is the film will be unremarkable. 1/14/2008 10:23:33 PMI'm really looking forward to Time Crimes, Sleep Dealer, and Up the Yangtze. I do want to see the Mary-Kate Olsen/Ben Kingsley/Method Man circus The Wackness, but more because of all the "isn't this so crazy..." buzz. My hunch is the film will be unremarkable.