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True Horror

   It is time.   Several people have asked me to share my true life paranormal experiences over the last couple of years.   I have a few experiences to share so this might take some time...   This discussion is open for all of you to contribute so if you have had a paranormal or "horror movie" situation happen to you I would like to hear about it!   This does not have to be a ghost story!   It can be an encounter with a Monster like Bigfoot or The Lochness Monster or a giant Black Leopard or with a psychopathic killer like Henry Lee Lucas or Jack the Ripper...    Mine is a ghost story and I will share it with you now...

   Ms. June, Froggybabe, Robert, Chris, Rizzo, Puhnner and anybody else who is curious, this is for you...

   (my memory of exact dates or timeline might be a little fucked up due to several years of drug and alcohol abuse) ...

   In the early 1980's my family moved into a large house in the Lake Arbor community in northern Arvada Colorado.   I moved in with them on the condition that I would rent the entire basement for $200 per month.   The basement was divided lengthwise into two rooms.   One room was my bedroom that had enough room for not only my bed but a couch and chairs and a table and a huge walk-in closet and a full size refrigerator/freezer AND my own bathroom!   The other room was a large finnished living-room type room with a couple of big couches and chairs and a fireplace...   I slept alone in this basement for more than a year with SOMETHING that was not of this world.   My first encounter with this entity was in the form of a dream... or rather a nightmare.   I had the scariest dream of my life about a tall guy with dark curly hair and thick black-rimmed glasses who was attacking me in that very house and wanted only to kill me.    The next morning I told my Mom that I had just had the scariest dream of my life and she said "Stop! You are giving me goosebumps!" and I said "Why?" and she said because she had had the exact same dream!   It was not long afterward when I saw the exact same guy standing in the middle of my bedroom when I was wide awake!   I stood face to face with this "spook" not more than three feet away one night and I am convinced that I personally met a Demon...

   More to come...   you asked for it...

                                                                                     < GOR >  

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Great thread idea!  I'm a big fan of shows like Paranormal State on A&E, Ghosthunters and the like.  Mostly because I've had some paranormal experiences I can't explain.  As a younger kid I suffered from frequent (probably about once a month) vivid deja-vu, reoccurring dreams/nightmares that seemed to herald an event in nearly every instance, and a few possibly paranormal encounters.  I have to say, I am more skeptic than believer but there have been two main 'encounters' I can't explain...

The first was when I was about 17.  I was still in highschool, living with my parents just outside Chicago in  a house they had bought when I was 5.  My room was on the top floor, halfway down the hallway  and up the stairs to the left.  My parents room was across the hallway and a little closer to the stairs. Keep this in mind...

Anyways, I believe it was around October/November.  I know it was fall.  I was home alone, which I was fairly frequently.  I had a dog at the time, a very very mild mannered Sheltie who I only had seen act aggressive once in her ten years, and that was when my friend and I were play wrestling and she thought he was trying to hurt me.  She promptly lunged for his throat, and tore his mitten off his hand and ripped his coat.  Any other time, she would only growl at UPS trucks and chase squirrels.

I was watching TV downstairs in a room towards the back of the house.  The night was a very eerie night in general.  The moon was full or close to it, the trees were bare and the sky was a creepy purple like you generally only see on TV, with thin whispy clouds interrupting the moon on occasion.  I kept getting a feeling that I wasn't alone.  It nagged and nagged me.  My dog wasn't with me, which was unusual for her.  I used to let her up on the couch to watch TV with me when my parents weren't around, and she always took advantage of that (smart dog!). 

I got up to go look for her, and she was in the downstairs hallway staring towards the front door.  She was staring kind of blankly and inquisitively, almost in a trance.  I went to touch her back to interrupt her stare, and she immediately bristled and braced herself.  She took a step back towards me, and started a low growl/whine.  I put my hand on her back and she started to walk backwards towards me, growling louder.  I freaked out a bit but tried to calm her. 

I tried to reassure her there was nothing there, so I walked forward which seemed to calm her a bit.  I was still on edge, so I decided to go upstairs and check out the upper level just to reassure myself we were alone.  I walked up the fourteen stairs, made the two left turns and as I made my second left at the stop of the stairs, I witnessed the door on my room start to close slowly and then slam violently. 

Freaky, but not unusual.  We had large upstairs windows which stayed open almost year-round because of the  house's daytime sun exposure.  I walked into my room and checked the windows... sealed tight and locked.  I then thought about my parents room being across the hall and knew that if their back windows were open the draft *could* push my door.  Probably not that hard, but you never know.  Their windows were sealed tight as well.  I looked outside to see if there was a wind, and the night was still as death itself.  The dry leaves weren't even rustling.  There wasn't a bird chirping or any noise at all... unusual in our area. 

I promptly scooped up my dog, got in my mom's car and drove to my friend's house, breaking my curfew and house rules.  When I showed up at my friend's, I was visibly white and shaking apparently.  Later, years after moving out of that house, I would find out from my dad after my second experience (which I'll write out below) that the house's previous owners were a single mother and her two very troubled sons.  Apparently, in my room he had found knife holes in the walls with deep red stains in wall board under the paint.  He also found evidence of occult activities, and apparently the sons had tried numerous times to kill each other, themselves and their mother.  Neighbors wouldn't even talk about the family hardly, except to say they were glad they no longer lived there. 

My second experience was at our house here in Michigan.  I was home alone again, this time for a week, as my parents were preparing to sell the house.  It was a fairly new house, no weird history.  Anyways, my dad had been packing up boxes in the furnace room where his workshop was.  I needed some tape or something, and walked into his downstairs office and went to push the door open into the furnace room, but it only opened about 1/2".  I thought it was jammed so I pushed harder and I felt something *very* heavy slide about 3", just enough to crack the door and peer into the dark room. 

I couldn't see anything blocking the door, but as my eyes adjusted I realized what it was.  My dad had a tower of about four large boxes, each completely filled with hardcover books on top of a wood cabinet.  Each box probably weighed at least 20lbs.  Somehow, the *entire* stack of boxes had moved over so the boxes were almost half hanging off the shelf, still perfectly stacked and pressed firmly against the door. Here's the kicker: there is only ONE door to that room, the one they were pressed against.  There is NO way this could have happened unless they were pushed up against the door from the inside. 

I slept with a good sized knife next to my bed the rest of the week, needless to say!  Interestingly enough, my dad also commented that his collection of antique guns had been messed with that week in another room adjacent to that one...

I'm looking forward to hearing some other people's experiences.  I have one other one that trumps both of these by a long shot but not sure if I'm ready to share it or not...

Dr_Gor:

This discussion is open for all of you to contribute so if you have had a paranormal or "horror movie" situation happen to you I would like to hear about it!   This does not have to be a ghost story!   It can be an encounter with a Monster like Bigfoot or The Lochness Monster or a giant Black Leopard or with a psychopathic killer like Henry Lee Lucas or Jack the Ripper...    Mine is a ghost story and I will share it with you now...

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Thanks for sharing guys.  I find it interesting.  I don't have anything to share with you since I really haven't had anything particularly strange happen to me like this.  But I just wanted to say it's interesting to read your stories.

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seely:

Great thread idea!  I'm a big fan of shows like Paranormal State on A&E, Ghosthunters and the like.  Mostly because I've had some paranormal experiences I can't explain.  As a younger kid I suffered from frequent (probably about once a month) vivid deja-vu, reoccurring dreams/nightmares that seemed to herald an event in nearly every instance, and a few possibly paranormal encounters.  I have to say, I am more skeptic than believer but there have been two main 'encounters' I can't explain...

   Great encounters, seely!   Now you truly know that there is SOMETHING else out there beyond our realm of reality.   I know this also but I have NO idea what it is...

                                                                                          < GOR >

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Dr_Gor:

     In the early 1980's my family moved into a large house in the Lake Arbor community in northern Arvada Colorado.   I moved in with them on the condition that I would rent the entire basement for $200 per month.   The basement was divided lengthwise into two rooms.   One room was my bedroom that had enough room for not only my bed but a couch and chairs and a table and a huge walk-in closet and a full size refrigerator/freezer AND my own bathroom!   The other room was a large finnished living-room type room with a couple of big couches and chairs and a fireplace...   I slept alone in this basement for more than a year with SOMETHING that was not of this world.   My first encounter with this entity was in the form of a dream... or rather a nightmare.   I had the scariest dream of my life about a tall guy with dark curly hair and thick black-rimmed glasses who was attacking me in that very house and wanted only to kill me.    The next morning I told my Mom that I had just had the scariest dream of my life and she said "Stop! You are giving me goosebumps!" and I said "Why?" and she said because she had had the exact same dream!   It was not long afterward when I saw the exact same guy standing in the middle of my bedroom when I was wide awake!   I stood face to face with this "spook" not more than three feet away one night and I am convinced that I personally met a Demon...

   More to come...   you asked for it...

                                                                                     < GOR >  

   Before I tell you about how I came to be standing face to face with this 'entity', to where we were both looking at each other squarely in the eye, I must first give you a little more background...

   My family at that time consisted of my Mom, my stepdad, my two younger sisters and myself.   The folks purchased a large two story house (the one described above) and I moved in with them.   I think we lived there less than 2 years but it seemed like a lot longer!   There were so many things that happened to our family while we lived there...  births (!), marriages, deaths...  at different times several different people lived there with us for a short time like my grandparents and my sister's husband (and their daughter) and various "family freinds" who we would rent a room to in times of trouble...   it was a big house and there was always somebody there.   It all started out innocently enough, there were the usuall creeks and bangs you usually hear at night in a new place... except this kept getting worse over time until EVERYBODY in the house knew that we had a problem!   Eventually the haunting phenomena became so bad that my parents called a family meeting and we all sat down and compared notes.   We ALL agreed that the place was haunted and the next question was "What should we do?".   I was the first one to say "Let's move!" (DUH!) ...  and we did!   Among what is left of my family we call that the "Amityville Horror House" ...

   I have a few stories to share with you about that house and so does my little sister!   I will try to get her to post her stories on here...

   ... To be continued ...

                                                                                < GOR >

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Can't wait to hear more on this... your dream experience sounds very much like the most vivid/disturbing experience I've had to date.

On another note, I work at a shop that is in a 150 year-old building in a little town outside Grand Rapids.  The building was originally a masonic temple, at a time when it would have been in a pretty remote/rural area, which it kind of still is to this day.  Anyways, buisinesses have been in and out of the building over the years, and the building sat abandoned for a long time.  Finally the owner of our shop bought it and renovated it.  Apparently, when he went in the attic he found all sorts of robes, scrolls and altars left over from the original masons, probably most over 70-100 years old.  I guess he felt something in the building, and had a priest come in who was known to have some sort of gift that allowed him to see outside our realm a bit.  He walked through the building, and then told the owner he saw "blood running down the walls", and immediately proceeded to bless the entire building. 

There was also a capstone in the building set at the peak of the roof with the Masonic compass symbol, written in a language no one to this day has deciphered.  The owner had a choice to leave it or pay a vast some of money to have it removed, and it bothered him sufficiently to the point he had it removed.  In addition to all this, on the 2nd floor they found a very narrow window-less room behind what was almost a false wall, with just a small somehwhat hidden entrance.  The odd thing was the entire room was painted pink, almost like a woman's powder room would have been... but  in an all male society...?

Most recently, we've found an *old* axe half buried in the crawlspace beneath the building.  I'm not an expert, but looking at the handle I would say it easily could have been there as long as the building has.  Its creepy because there is no reason to have an axe down there, and nobody in that time period would have left something so potentially valuable as an axe half buried in the corner of a wet crawlspace.  The other disturbing thing is the dried, caked purplish-red substance on the side of the axe head that was facing up.  Its not oxidation, and there appears to be chunks of organic material mixed in with it.  Honestly, it sure as heck looks like dried blood...

Dr_Gor:

 

   I have a few stories to share with you about that house and so does my little sister!   I will try to get her to post her stories on here...

   ... To be continued ...

                                                                                < GOR >

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Dr_Gor:

     In the early 1980's my family moved into a large house in the Lake Arbor community in northern Arvada Colorado.   I moved in with them on the condition that I would rent the entire basement for $200 per month.   The basement was divided lengthwise into two rooms.   One room was my bedroom that had enough room for not only my bed but a couch and chairs and a table and a huge walk-in closet and a full size refrigerator/freezer AND my own bathroom!   The other room was a large finnished living-room type room with a couple of big couches and chairs and a fireplace...   I slept alone in this basement for more than a year with SOMETHING that was not of this world.   My first encounter with this entity was in the form of a dream... or rather a nightmare.   I had the scariest dream of my life about a tall guy with dark curly hair and thick black-rimmed glasses who was attacking me in that very house and wanted only to kill me.    The next morning I told my Mom that I had just had the scariest dream of my life and she said "Stop! You are giving me goosebumps!" and I said "Why?" and she said because she had had the exact same dream!   It was not long afterward when I saw the exact same guy standing in the middle of my bedroom when I was wide awake!   I stood face to face with this "spook" not more than three feet away one night and I am convinced that I personally met a Demon...

   More to come...   you asked for it...

                                                                                     < GOR >  

Did you ever find out like seely did about the history of the house after you moved out?

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This is definately one of my favorite subjects.  I'm so glad you started this Doc and are sharing your stories with us.  I'm also a big fan of Ghost Hunters, Ghost Hunters International, Ghost Adventures, Scariest Places on Earth (with Gor's fantasy wife, Linda Blair hosting) and Paranormal State.  I don't care for Most Haunted: The Best of Most Haunted Livebecause there is too much screaming and I feel like most of it is just made up although I do really enjoy hearing of the history of a place, especially in Europe. 

I have always been fascinated with the Paranormal and may have had some things happen to me as a little girl that I brushed off as on overactive imagination.  Even though I love anything scary I am still a bit of a skeptic but have a very open mind.  I was also blessed with a cool and collective demeanor and not easily frightened.  I have gone on quite a few Ghost Hunts in Washington State and being level headed is so important because once someone is really scared it can escalate and escalate until it is crisis, screaming level (which you can see on Scariest Places on Earth a lot when these easily traumatized people just get into hysterics).  I have gotten a few pictures with orbs in them (which I really don't believe is anything except dust but it is interesting how these orbs have only shown up in pictures where there is suppose to be paranormal activity).  Anyway, my friend got a really interesting EVP one time, they were just leaving the building when they were looking for the key to lock the door and couldn't find it.  There were only two of them left in the building to lock up and my friend had his tape recorder clipped to his belt all you can hear is them arguing back and forth of who had the key last, all of a sudden on the tape recorder you can hear this woman's voice that says - If you lost the key you are going to be in trouble - there were just two men there and if they would have heard someone say something, they would have acknowledged it.  He is very honest too, so that was a little hard to dismiss.  Oh and they did find the key...

Anyway, I love hearing your stories and hope more people share.  Oh I don't know if this was anything or not, but I was over at a friends house with another friend of mine.  Now my friend has always said that she has a ghost in her house because sometimes the bathroom light would come on and the faucet would turn on at times too.  Well, a couple of my friends and I were playing cards and my one friend loves really loud club dancing music.  So she had this music on really loud for a long time when all of a sudden we realized that Barry Manilow was playing (and knew this wasn't on the station we were just listening to).  Anyway, my friend gets up to check the radio and the dial has been turned quite a ways to the easy listening station.  So I don't know if it was just the vibrations but I could see it only moving the dial just a smidge not all the way over to an exact station.  That was pretty bazarre...

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Not my story, but one of the creepiest I have heard to date from a very trusted source.

My friend that told me this is a bit older than myself, about 35.  I'm goingto tell in his words the best I can:

I have a friend thats about my age (35 now) and working in Chicago.  This was a few years ago, right when iMacs, webcams and online dating were becoming popular.  She had moved from here to Chicago a few months and was working as a higher level executive at a pretty presitigious company.  She didn't have a lot of time or ways to meet people, so she thought she'd try online dating. 

She fired up her iMac and looked at her photos, not finding any she really liked.  She decided to fire up the webcam and just click away hoping she'd get one she liked.  She took about 80 pictures, just one right after the other, and then saved them all to browse through later.

Later that evening, she decided to pull the trigger and go ahead and try an online personals site, and started sorting through the pictures.  She had them all opened, 'stacked' on top of each other in her photo software so she could just click through and close the ones she didn't like.  She was absent mindedly click through picture after picture until she got to one that stopped her dead.  She stopped because in the picture was the clear form of a man looming over her and reaching out to grab her with a very evil expression on his face.  She went back a few pictures... nothing there... checked a few after that photo... nothing there.  She immediately left her apartment, and went to a friends.

She stayed at her friends place that night, and explained what happened.  Her friends agreed to come back to check out her place the next day.  They came back in the day and found everything exactly as she had left it, picture still on her desktop with the man still plainly visible.  They searched the premise and determined it couldn't have been human, she would have known.  It wasn't a large apartment, and it only had a fire escape and a front door which she was facing at the time.

Her friend recommended she call a priest.  The priest came in, looked at the picture and turned white.  He then called someone he knew that he used frequently in demonic and haunting related cases.  She came in, took one look at the picture and put her hand over her mouth.  She told my friend that she must never come back to the aparment--she wasn't safe, and she must just leave all her stuff there as it could be something attached to a belonging, get out and never come back.  And she did just that.  She left everything, broke her lease and lived with friends for awhile till she could find a new place.

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seely:

She stopped because in the picture was the clear form of a man looming over her and reaching out to grab her with a very evil expression on his face. 

Oh man, I'm super curoius to see this picture!!!  Can we follow the chain back to this person and find out where the picture is??  Or did she just leave it on the computer that she supposedly abandoned?