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Risselada
Risselada
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THE MARX BROTHERS!



Who loves the Marx Brothers!?

I've seen their first seven existing feature films.  That's half of them.  That first half generally seems to be considered the best.  It's been a while since I saw most of them though, so I'm going to go through all of them again.  Just got The Cocoanuts last night.  It's a pretty early talkie film and looks and sounds rather rough.  I started wondering once I put the DVD in if it was actually going to be as great as I remembered it, or if I had just remembered the best Marx Brothers moments and forgot that it wasn't all that great.  THAT WASN'T TRUE!  This movie made me laugh out loud more often than hardly any film today could.  These guys are not only really hilarious, both with words and actions, they are fantastic musicians as well.

I think the Marx Brothers may be the greatest group of entertainers ever in the world of film.  Does anyone agree?  Anyone want to suggest anyone better?

 

Here's a line that made me laugh for nearly a minute.  Maybe it's not as funny on the page as it is in the delivery, but oh man, it was wonderful!

Groucho: "The first number of the evening will be a piccolo solo, which we will skip. Signor Pastrami will now play 'A Cup of Coffee, a Sandwich and You' from the opera I-Eat-A."
Margaret: "Oh, Signor Pastrami, what is the first number?"
Chico: "Number one!"

Chico exclaims so wonderfully with his single finger held up in the air.  He then proceeds to play the piano with those so entertaining finger and hand movements.



     
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The Cocoanuts  (1929)

            
SkyPilot
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I love that line, too.  That whole scene, really.  My favorite movie they did, though, is the one on the ship--I can't believe I forgot the name...

You make an interesting claim that they're the greatest ever group of entertainers in film.  I can't disagree with you.  Who was your favorite Marx brother at first, and did it change?  I liked Groucho the most at first, but Harpo and Chico really grew on me.  I love how they work together as a team.  One of my all-time favorite scenes in cinema is in Duck Soup where Chico is reporting their spy activities and Harpo is wreaking havoc.

After seeing Duck Soup for the first time I wondered about the significance (if any) that the Marx Bros. don't die.  It seems they can't.  I developed a little theory about that movie, that it demonstrates, perhaps inadvertently, that you are as invincible as long as you can laugh, or make the audience laugh.  They're like human cartoon characters; they might go through hell, but always get the last laugh because they're the hippest, shrewdest dudes around.  Human versions of Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny.   



     

            
Risselada
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Great post!

A portion of A Night at the Opera takes place on a ship.  One of the funniest scenes is when tons of people are crammed into a small room on the ship.  Maybe that's the one you are thinking of.

I think Groucho is my favorite and always will be.  He holds it all together.  That is not to say that Harpo and Chico don't make me laugh just as much.  None of them would be quite as much without the rest.

Yeah I think they are definitely like cartoon characters.  I think the Marx Brothers and Warner Brothers cartoons come from the same comedic style, rules, and universe.  Do you know which ones came first??



     
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divinemsjunebug
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I'm sure the Marx Brothers came out first because didn't the Warner Brother's cartoons come out during World War II for adults to make them laugh?  I think I remember hearing that they put enough raunchy humor in the cartoons to where it would go over the kid's heads and the adults would get a good chuckle out of it. 

God, I love the Marx Brothers.  I remember the first time I saw their movies was over at a friend's house in high school.  I was sooooo amazed by how naughty the humor was.  I kept thinking the 1930s seemed to be such a prim and proper time but I guess that really hit in the 40's.  Anyway, I can just watch all of those movies over and over and over and always see or hear something new that just cracks me up even more.  I remember reading something about the older stodgy woman in their movies was actually a REAL socialite and wasn't an actress per se.  Anyway, they said she was really like that in real life and hardly ever laughed at what they did.  I am going to have to watch them again...I do agree with you hands down, Risselada, NO ONE can compare to them, it was fast, genius comedy.



     

            
Risselada
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divinemsjunebug:
I remember reading something about the older stodgy woman in their movies was actually a REAL socialite and wasn't an actress per se.  Anyway, they said she was really like that in real life and hardly ever laughed at what they did.

That would be so wonderful if it's true!

I did some research and got conflicting resports about it's validiy, but that adds to the mystery!



     

            
divinemsjunebug
divinemsjunebug
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Risselada:

divinemsjunebug:
I remember reading something about the older stodgy woman in their movies was actually a REAL socialite and wasn't an actress per se.  Anyway, they said she was really like that in real life and hardly ever laughed at what they did.

That would be so wonderful if it's true!

I did some research and got conflicting resports about it's validiy, but that adds to the mystery!

I just can't remember if it was an article OR if it was on the Biography of Groucho...I will see if I can find something on that too.  It was very interesting.  Then there was poor, handsome Zeppo...I don't think he had the comedy gene...always the straight man.  

One thing I do remember was an interview with Groucho's daughter, she made no bones about it that she didn't care for her father very much but loved her Uncle Harpo, I think he had a lot of children and he was just wonderful with kids, she had said that she wished Harpo had been her father.  Anyway, that was kind of sad, I guess Groucho worried about everything and just couldn't be happy in "real" life.  Have you ever seen any of the old reruns of You Bet Your Life?  That was just the funniest game show ever, very cute...



     

            
divinemsjunebug
divinemsjunebug
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Biography for
Margaret Dumont

Here is a mini Biography about Margaret Dumont, the snobby woman in 7 of the Marx Brothers movies, a little interesting trivia about her.  I like the very last sentence, I'm sure that was probably true.... 
Date of Birth
20 October 1882, Brooklyn, New York, USA

Date of Death
6 March 1965, Hollywood, California, USA. (heart attack)

Birth Name
Daisy Juliette Baker

Mini Biography

Margaret Dumont would probably consider it a tragedy that she is best-known for her performances as the ultimate straight woman in seven of the Marx Brothers' films (including most of their best). By all accounts she never understood their jokes (offscreen and on), which is of course a major reason why she's so funny. Apart from a small role in a 1917 Dickens adaptation, she spent her early career on the stage, ending up with the Marxes in the late 1920s in the stage versions of The Cocoanuts (1929) and Animal Crackers (1930), and was given a Paramount contract at the same time they were. She played similar roles alongside other great comedians, including W.C. Fields, Laurel & Hardy and Jack Benny and also played straight dramatic parts (her chief love), but few of them made much impact - it is as Groucho Marx's foil that she ranks among the immortals, and she died shortly after being reunited with him on "The Hollywood Palace" (1964).

IMDb Mini Biography By: Michael Brooke

Spouse
John Moller Jr(1910 - ?) (his death)

Trade Mark

Best known as her roles as the haughty straight woman for the Marx Brothers.


Trivia

Last appearance of any kind was on the TV show "The Hollywood Palace" (1964) in 1965, reprising her role as Groucho Marx's straight woman. She died just days later.

She was bald and wore wigs for several years on and off camera.

Her screen persona was that of a stolid, wealthy society matron, which is exactly what she was: her husband, John Moller, was a millionaire industrialist, and she often commuted to filming locations from her mansions in Palm Springs, California, and Paris, France.

Started on stage in 1907

She was the god-daughter of author Joel Chandler Harris.

Biography in: "Who's Who in Comedy" by Ronald L. Smith. Pg. 143-144. New York: Facts on File, 1992. ISBN 0816023387

Groucho Marx called her "practically the fifth Marx Brother".

Offstage, she usually called Groucho Marx "Julie", which is short for Julius, Groucho's given name.

Some have argued that her image of the refined lady who did not understand the Marx Brothers' humor was an artificial one since she had a long career being a comedic foil in comedy stage productions years before her more famous work.



     

            
Risselada
Risselada
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divinemsjunebug:
Then there was poor, handsome Zeppo...I don't think he had the comedy gene...always the straight man.

I remember reading something about Groucho saying that Zeppo was the funniest out of all of them in actuality.  I guess they made him be the more straight man so that he wouldn't overwhelm everyone and upstage the rest of them.



     

            
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