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THOUGHTS: RATATOUILLE 
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pippin06
pippin06
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THOUGHTS: RATATOUILLE



What can I say?  I have never been disappointed by a Pixar film.  Never.  There are better ones and worse ones, but even the worst Pixar flick is so much better than so many films, animated or no.  I don't know that this is the absolute best, but it's up there.  What do you think? 

I thought that Ratatouille has that "grown up" sensibility like The Incredibles , which is probably because Brad Bird directed and, I think, co-wrote it.  It was a little more serious.  I do NOT think it's the funniest Pixar movie, as the advertisements would have you believe.  There was not an endless degree of laughing in the theater when I went.  I still think the funniest Pixar movie has to be Finding Nemo, and that's largely due to the presence of Ellen DeGeneres.  There was simply more to laugh at.

I don't think it matters, though.  There were still quite a few laughs.  I think this is a more sophisticated Pixar movie.  I kept thinking that some of the language was really advanced, even hoity toity.  I mean, the world of fine food in Paris?  Peter O'Toole voicing a Vincent Price-like food critic?  What child is going to find this funny?  Plus, the message behind the movie is something that only older kids will probably relate to.

Still, there were enough rats doing silly things to keep children, young and old, happy.  I think the best parts were when Remy, the rat who would be cook, marionetted Monsieur Linguini around the kitchen.  Oh, and the animation was superb, particularly the frames of Paris sparkling at night.  I think they should name the Best Animated Feature Oscar after Pixar, even though they gave the last one to a movie about penguins.

I don't want to say too much for fear of spoiling anything, but discuss your thoughts about the picture here!  How would you rate it amongst Pixar releases?  What were your favorite parts?

Also, what did you think of the complimentary animated short before this feature (another reason why I love Pixar movies), Lifted?  I thought it was hilarious.

Also, what did you think of the little teaser for Wall-E, Pixar's next feature, coming in 2008?

Discuss.



     
Under discussion:

Finding Nemo  (2003)

The Incredibles  (2004)

Ratatouille  (2007)

Wall-E  (2008)

            
indieabby88
indieabby88
Posts 281

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I dunno...I saw their preview for "Wall-e" and I gotta say, I was not impressed. I think the concept will be beyond a lot of little kids' understanding, and the use of computerized voices for the characters may be a pretty hard sell.

     

            
pippin06
pippin06
Posts 453

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But maybe Wall-E will be a cuddly robot! Do they still make those robots for kids that had like learning games and stuff? I think I agree that this generation's little kid is going to find Wall-E tough to swallow.   Maybe if Wall-E were a talking Playstation 3 or Wii or something...

Thanks for your comments, strangeframe.  I feel the same way about the Brad Bird features.  It took a few repeat viewings of the Incredibles for me to come around to it because I felt it was so "grown up" the first time.  And a little serious.  Ratatouille is not quite as serious, but it definitely seemed to me to put off little kids.  I didn't hear them laughing as much as the adults.

Yet, I think it's interesting that Brad Bird has pushed the envelope with animation - making it more accessible to older audiences.  I think the conflict with G-rated and everything comes primarily from the Disney marketing juggernaut.  They can drum up the interest, but they definitely have a target audience they are marketing to.  How does everyone feel about Pixar maintaining a relationship with Disney (remember, they originally spun off when Michael Eisner was CEO but now remain a subsidiary under the new helmsman)?



     

            
indieabby88
indieabby88
Posts 281

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Apparently "Ratatouille" is (so far) Pixar's lowest-grossing movie, even below "A Bug's Life" (I often forget they made that!). I find this a little disappointing. Where's the faith, people? 

     

            
joem18b
joem18b
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The Pixar movies to date have been aimed at kids, tweens, and young teens, while still being enjoyed by adults, resulting in big $$$. I haven't seen Ratatouille yet, although my spouse makes it from time to time, so I can tell you what it tastes like, and it's not bad, not bad at all, but is it true that the movie isn't as accessible to younger viewers as the earlier Pixar movies, and not as interesting as, say, Cars is to the 14-year-old male demongraphic? Which results in fewer $$$, but is no reflection on the film as a possible classic?

     

            
indieabby88
indieabby88
Posts 281

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Was "demongraphic" a typo or intentional? I'm so using that next time I talk about a demographic I hate.

     

            
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