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divinemsjunebug
divinemsjunebug
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True Zombie Stories



Share stories that you've heard or seen about True-Life Zombie stories:  Here is something that I found which was very interesting, I thought I'd start a new thread with this:

One belief unique to voodoo is the zombie. The creole word “zombi” is apparently derived from Nzambi, a West African deity but it only came into general use in 1929, after the publication of William B. Seabrook's The Magic Island. In this book, Seabrook recounts his experiences on Haiti, including the walking dead. He describes the first 'zombie' he came across in this way:

    "The eyes were the worst. It was not my imagination. They were in truth like the eyes of a dead man, not blind, but staring, unfocused, unseeing. The whole face, for that matter, was bad enough. It was vacant, as if there was nothing behind it. It seemed not only expressionless, but incapable of expression."

Haitian zombies were once normal people, but underwent zombification by a "bokor" or voodoo sorcerer, through spell or potion.  The victim then dies and becomes a mindless automaton, incapable of remembering the past, unable to recognise loved ones and doomed to a life of miserable toil under the will of the zombie master.

There have been some rare occasions of juju zombies temporarily regaining part of their mental faculties. This rare occurrence has only been observed when a zombie encounters situations that have heavy emotional connections to their mortal lives.

There are many examples of zombies in modern day Haiti. Papa Doc Duvallier the dictator of Haiti from 1957 to 1971 had a private army of thugs called tonton macoutes. These people were said to be in trances and they followed every command that Duvallier gave them. Duvallier had also his own voodoo church with many followers and he promised to return after his death to rule again. He did not come back but a guard was placed at his tomb, to insure that he would not try to escape, or that nobody steal the body. There are also many stories of people that die, then many years later return to the shock and surprise of relatives. A man named Caesar returned 18 years after he died to marry, have three children and die again, 30 years after he was originally buried. Another case involved a student from a village Port-au-Prince who had been shot in a robbery attempt. Six months later, the student returned to his parent’s house as a zombie. At first it was possible to talk with the man, and he related the story of his murder, a voodoo witch doctor stealing his body from the ambulance before he reached hospital and his transformation into a zombie. As time went on, he became unable to communicate, he grew more and more lethargic and died.

A case reported a writer named Stephen Bonsal described a zombie he witnessed in 1912 in this way: a man had at intervals a high fever, he joined a foreign mission church and the head of the mission saw the him die. He assisted at the funeral and saw the dead man buried. Some days later the supposedly dead man was found dressed in grave clothes, tied to a tree, moaning. The poor wretch soon recovered his voice but not his mind. He was indentifed by his wife, by the physician who had pronounced him dead, and by the clergyman. The victim did not recognized anybody, and spent his days moaning inarticulate words.



     

            
divinemsjunebug
divinemsjunebug
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Here is a good site with some Zombie info:

http://www.occultopedia.com/z/zombie.htm



     

            
FroggyBaBe15876
FroggyBaBe15876
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Damn, Ms. June!  You sure know a lot about zombies!  That's pretty awesomely sweet!  However, just as a side note, I think I like the really really actual dead zombies who eat brains and shamble around saying...well, "Brains..."  Those are the best and damn scariest.  But that's just me.

     

            
IronAbacus
IronAbacus
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I am, in point of fact, a zombie. Does that count?

     

            
divinemsjunebug
divinemsjunebug
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Yes, I agree with you.  Real Zombies are REAL BORING.  No brain eating or leg chomping.  They just do what they are told with no complaining.  If Dawn of the Dead had the real zombies, the people in the mall would have just been asking them to shop for them or something.  No gore and guts just slow mindless moving and maybe a little moaning.  YAWN... hee hee. 

Actually this morning at work I am feeling a little zombie like.  ugh...



     

            
divinemsjunebug
divinemsjunebug
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IronAbacus:
I am, in point of fact, a zombie. Does that count?

You know, actually I wouldn't mind having my very own zombie.  Hmmm, this could have some possibilities.  :-)



     

            
Risselada
Risselada
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I think this illuminates the fact that although zombie movies may be fun and exciting and even funny, there is something very real and very dangerous about all of this.  Something Satanic really.  It may be dangerous to get too engrossed.

     

            
divinemsjunebug
divinemsjunebug
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I think "real" zombies are people that have been drugged to look like they are dead, then dug up by those people so that they can have their own slaves.  I think most of it has to do with DRUGS and Mind Control.  It's like in a lot of CULTS in the world, they use some form of brainwashing where they forget almost ALL of their past.  Some people are just more susceptable than others.  Now I think if the people were ACTUALLY dead and brought back to life, that might be a whole other creepy matter.  Like I said, I am VERY skeptical about things and have a scientific outlook on most things and think just about everything can be explained.  Although, like I have said, I have an open mind and would love to be proven wrong about that...

But I'm just interested in it, not obsessed, I promise...I swear I am not as KOOOKY as I seem.  hee hee. 



     

            
Risselada
Risselada
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Oh not to suggest anything about you June!

I do believe there are dangerous spiritual forces out there, and I can't imagine that something like real zombies would be unrelated to them.



     

            
indieabby88
indieabby88
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*shivers* creepy creepy creepy. The Voodoo reference sounds familiar, and totally makes sense. It's neat to see the anthropology behind zombies. I wonder if there have been any films addressing the voodooishness of that? It would be neat to see one that did. In fact, there's a short story by Neil Gaiman, I think it's called "Coffee Girls" or something along those lines that I think addresses a similar voodoo belief, if not that very one. It's been a while since I've read it. I'll have to go back and check it out!

     

            
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