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overrated: To overestimate the merits of; rate too highly.

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Re: Your overrated list 
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Risselada
Risselada
Posts 1362

Your overrated list



http://www.spout.com/films/Swingers/93403/default.aspxI thought I wouldn't like participating in this group at first because it get's frustrating complaining about movies, but I can't seem to hold myself back.

Puhnner, you asked me to list some of my overrated movies, referring to my definition of overrated by ratio.  Well I'm not sure if this is going by the same criteria, but I've come up with a list from another source.  I also rate movies at the website movielens.  It will give you recommendations based on your ratings and whatnot.  It also gives some interesting statistics.  For one, it tells me which movies I have rated the lowest compared to the average rating on their site.  So I have looked at that list and picked several of them.  The thing about this method is that I am not using what my impression of the ammount of acclaim a movie has received for the ratio but rather what the ammount of acclaim a website thinks a movie has based on the votes from it's users.  Some of these movies I have not seen for a long time, so my feelings about them are not as immediate in my memory, but maybe it will give some dicussion.

I Am Sam
Shrek
The Cooler
Crash (2005)
In America
Selena
Million Dollar Baby
The Wedding Singer
Chungking Express
The Lion King
Empire Records
Anything Else
Meet The Parents
True Lies
Breathless
The Nutty Professor (1996)
Bad Boys II
Jules and Jim
Open Water
Whale Rider
American Pie
Toy Story
10 Things I Hate About You
Swingers
Grand Canyon
Ruthless People
Happy, Texas
What the #$*! Do We Know?!
Bandits
A Fish Called Wanda
The Whole Nine Yards
High Fidelity
Men In Black II
Vanilla Sky
E.T.
The Game
The Truman Show
Liar Liar
Fahrenheit 9/11
Collateral
Meet the Fockers
Field of Dreams
Lawrence of Arabia
Big Daddy
The Graduate
Haiku Tunnel
Alien Vs. Predator
Arlington Road
La Femme Nikita
Gladiator
The Motorcycle Diaries

Also, I have added the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind to the overrated list for this group.


I also want to say I often hope my list in this area will stay short.  Many of these movies I have had an impression from the start that I would not like it.  I usually have a good sense ahead of time about what movies I will like more or less.  I can't tell exactly how much I will like a movie, but I'm usually pretty close on the general range of how much I may like it.  Most of these movies I was coerced into seeing.  Some of you may argue that the fact that I told myself I didn't want to see it in the first place may have had an effect on how much I liked it.  Such as if I go in telling myself I won't like it, I'll probably find more reasons not to like it.  That may be true to some extent, but not enough to really effect my decision that much.

Go ahead and ask me about these selections and make a list of your own using whatever criteria you feel is appropriate.



     
Under discussion:

Breathless  (1960)

Field of Dreams  (1989)

The Graduate  (1967)

Grand Canyon  (1991)

Jules and Jim  (1962)

Ruthless People  (1986)

La Femme Nikita  (1990)

The Lion King  (1994)

True Lies  (1994)

Toy Story  (1995)

Empire Records  (1995)

Swingers  (1996)

Liar Liar  (1997)

Selena  (1997)

The Game  (1997)

The Truman Show  (1998)

Arlington Road  (1999)

Happy, Texas  (1999)

Big Daddy  (1999)

American Pie  (1999)

High Fidelity  (2000)

Gladiator  (2000)

Meet The Parents  (2000)

Haiku Tunnel  (2001)

Shrek  (2001)

Bandits  (2001)

Vanilla Sky  (2001)

I Am Sam  (2001)

Men in Black II  (2002)

In America  (2002)

Whale Rider  (2002)

The Cooler  (2003)

Bad Boys II  (2003)

Anything Else  (2003)

Collateral  (2004)

Meet the Fockers  (2004)

Crash  (2005)

Open Water  (2003)

Fahrenheit 9/11  (2004)

            
Rock
Rock
Posts 45

Re: Your overrated list



Risselada:

I Am Sam  -  WOW...why was this on your list?
Shrek  - Must not like animated movies?
Selena - Didn't like J-Lo doing the film?    I thought it was a great biopic on her life.
Million Dollar Baby - GREAT FILM.   What didn't you like?
The Wedding Singer - Good film.  But not sure that it was hyped to begin with
Meet The Parents - Good film.  Hilarious sceens.  again I'm not sure there was alot of hype to begin with
True Lies - Personally my favorite film of both Arnolds.   I thought both Arnolds interacted well together.  I'd like to see a return of those characters
Bad Boys II - While it was a decent film.  I too didn't think it lived up to the original film
Toy Story  - I really think you don't like animated movies
The Whole Nine Yards - Great film.  Almost as good as the Hudson Hawk
Men In Black II - I thought it was a worthy sequel
The Truman Show - I believe that film showcased Jim Carrey's best acting abilities
Liar Liar - Again, Jim Carrey's best acting but in a comedic role.  I thought it was his best comedy.
Fahrenheit 9/11  - I soo dislike Michael Moore.
Meet the Fockers - Funny film. 
Field of Dreams - You must not be a dreamer
Alien Vs. Predator - They must continue this series.  I loved it.
Gladiator - WHY is this on your list?



     
Under discussion:

Field of Dreams  (1989)

True Lies  (1994)

Toy Story  (1995)

Liar Liar  (1997)

Selena  (1997)

The Truman Show  (1998)

Gladiator  (2000)

Meet The Parents  (2000)

Shrek  (2001)

I Am Sam  (2001)

Men in Black II  (2002)

Bad Boys II  (2003)

Meet the Fockers  (2004)

Fahrenheit 9/11  (2004)

            
Risselada
Risselada
Posts 1362

Re: Your overrated list



Rock:
Risselada:

I Am Sam  -  WOW...why was this on your list?
Shrek  - Must not like animated movies?
Selena - Didn't like J-Lo doing the film?    I thought it was a great biopic on her life.
Million Dollar Baby - GREAT FILM.   What didn't you like?
The Wedding Singer - Good film.  But not sure that it was hyped to begin with
Meet The Parents - Good film.  Hilarious sceens.  again I'm not sure there was alot of hype to begin with
True Lies - Personally my favorite film of both Arnolds.   I thought both Arnolds interacted well together.  I'd like to see a return of those characters
Bad Boys II - While it was a decent film.  I too didn't think it lived up to the original film
Toy Story  - I really think you don't like animated movies
The Whole Nine Yards - Great film.  Almost as good as the Hudson Hawk
Men In Black II - I thought it was a worthy sequel
The Truman Show - I believe that film showcased Jim Carrey's best acting abilities
Liar Liar - Again, Jim Carrey's best acting but in a comedic role.  I thought it was his best comedy.
Fahrenheit 9/11  - I soo dislike Michael Moore.
Meet the Fockers - Funny film. 
Field of Dreams - You must not be a dreamer
Alien Vs. Predator - They must continue this series.  I loved it.
Gladiator - WHY is this on your list?

A lot of these I don't like because they are what I usuaully call manipulative.  I am watching them and I can feel the filmmakers trying their hardest to make me feel a certain emotion.  Sometimes they succeed.  However if I can feel them doing it, then it seems false.  It seems like it's a trick and there's no reason for it. I Am Sam is probably at the top because I give it the worst rating possible.  Let's get some sweet innocent mentally challenged people, a precocious, lovable child, people that want to fight for a cause against those darned courts.  And of course lots of Beatles music.  Who the hell doesn't love the Beatles?  When you look at the cirumstances of the movie it's so untrue.  Things never could or ever would happen the way they ever do in that film.  But they put you in the most emotionally reactive situations possible.  Why?  As an exercise?

Weird that you mentioned Hudson Hawk.  I've never seen it, but my impression was that it was in the same category as Ishtar and Waterworld as movies that had a lot of hype and budget to them, but then totally tanked.



     
Under discussion:

Field of Dreams  (1989)

Hudson Hawk  (1991)

Ishtar  (1987)

True Lies  (1994)

Toy Story  (1995)

Waterworld  (1995)

Liar Liar  (1997)

Selena  (1997)

The Truman Show  (1998)

Gladiator  (2000)

Meet The Parents  (2000)

Shrek  (2001)

I Am Sam  (2001)

Men in Black II  (2002)

Bad Boys II  (2003)

Meet the Fockers  (2004)

Fahrenheit 9/11  (2004)

            
GoldynGirl
GoldynGirl
Posts 19

Re: Your overrated list



A Fish Called Wanda?

Overrated?  Blasphemy!

Kevin Kline is delightfully loony, and Jamie Curtis is at her acerbic, conniving best.  Better hope that K-K-K-Ken doesn't try to k-k-k-kill you!  

 



     

            
Indie
Indie
Posts 142

Re: Your overrated list



Bandits too?  I do not think that its a masterpiece (though Cate and Billy are master class).  Is it really popular?

     

            
Risselada
Risselada
Posts 1362

Re: Your overrated list



It's probably not "really popular", but like I said, I was just listing the movies that movielens spat out to me based on their statistics.

     

            
Indie
Indie
Posts 142

Re: Your overrated list



Ha-ha, Empire Records is on that list.  I used to like it, but I've seen Robin Tunney being suicidal one too many times.

     

            
sweeneyx
sweeneyx
Posts 1

Re: Your overrated list



what are you all basing whats overrated on?
is it whats rated high on Sprout?
if your taking into account say, awards, critics and box office
then most of these flicks don't even exist

Empire Records
Anything Else
Bad Boys II
Happy, Texas
The Whole Nine Yards
Big Daddy
Alien Vs. Predator
MOST OF THE WORLD WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THESE MOVIES SUCK.

But
Breathless (the Godard version?)
Lawence Of Arabia
have you seen them? Okay they're no Spawn or Home Alone
but they're terric flicks.

Fasinating

     

            
Indie
Indie
Posts 142

Re: Your overrated list



He's basing his list on something he saw at Movielens



     

            
Risselada
Risselada
Posts 1362

Re: Your overrated list



sweeneyx:
what are you all basing whats overrated on? is it whats rated high on Sprout? if your taking into account say, awards, critics and box office then most of these flicks don't even exist Empire Records Anything Else Bad Boys II Happy, Texas The Whole Nine Yards Big Daddy Alien Vs. Predator MOST OF THE WORLD WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE THESE MOVIES SUCK. But Breathless (the Godard version?) Lawence Of Arabia have you seen them? Okay they're no Spawn or Home Alone but they're terric flicks. Fasinating

I thought I explained it pretty well in my very first post.  I rated movies at movielens.umn.edu.  These are the movies that supposedly my rating is furthest lowest from the average.  Did you read that part?  I'm not taking anything into account.  It's merely what that website spat out at me based on other people's ratings on that website only.  I would have figured most of the world would acknowledge these movies suck as well.