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Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind
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billhr
billhr
Posts 55

Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



We created MovieMind as a way for all sorts of people (from the casual consumer to the serious film fan) to get an intelligent list of recommendations based upon their ratings, contacts and experts. So the question is, does it live up to that promise?...and if so, how could you see using it?...and if not, what sort of special sauce would make it tastier?

     

            
Risselada
Risselada
Posts 2068

Re: Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



I looked at it and I guess I don't know exactly how it works.  All of those movies that pop up, are those the recommendations?  The ones I got all just seemed like that latest new releases.  Is there somewhere else I have to actually go to get the recommendations taylored for my ratings?



     

            
davisfreeberg
davisfreeberg
Posts 118

Re: Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



This looks like a very cool feature.  The drag and drop box spectacular.  It really adds to the functionality of the site.  Kudos to whoever came up with the name, MovieMind is a great name for this service.

     

            
Jymkata
Jymkata
Posts 143

Re: Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



I agree with Rizzo - I love the idea of recommendation systems, but I got frustrated when the same newest releases kept popping up. Rizzo and I also use filmaffinity and movielens and I like filmaffinity for it's classic and foreign recommendations (lots of spanish flics) and I had never even heard of Luis Garcia Berlanga before ( and I consider myself pretty well read in film)  - now that my Spanish soulmates have all raved about him I can't wait to see his stuff. Movielens recommendation system is really close to perfection (it just needs more titles) because it's predicted ratings are almost always spot on for me and they have some variety (classic, foreign, cult) to their recommendations.

These are my initial thoughts. I will say that I was excited to see a new feature here and spent some time trying it out. 



     

            
CaptainO
CaptainO
Posts 5

Re: Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



It's not clear whether you're getting recommendations based on one of your favorite movies or whether you're required to rate all movies that pop up when you enter your favorite flick. I didn't see all of the movies that popped up so I wasn't able to rate. Seems like you have to earn you recommendations by rating. I just want recommendations based on my movie watching history! Maybe there's a disconnect between asking people to rate vs. entering your favorite movie. Maybe it should be one or the other that earns your recommendations. 

     

            
Risselada
Risselada
Posts 2068

Re: Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



I'm suspecting one issue may be the fact that just not a large enough cross section of people have rated enough movies on this site to have a good enough database to make references yet....

     

            
Puhnner
Puhnner
Posts 239

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I am excited and intrigued by the possibility of whatever may pop up, but somewhat disappointed in what does...here are the results of 5 titles and the initial 4 choices for each:

Branded to Kill:

Kanto Wander; Assassins ( hell, it has Stallone +12!!!); The Outside Man; The Departed

The Big Sleep ( Mitchum ):

Dog Day; Murder and the Computer; Blue Ice; And now my Love

Big Trouble in Little China:

A gathering of old Men; Remo Williams; Saigon: Year of the Cat; She said No

Take the Money and Run:

Frankenweenie (WHAT!!!); The 12 Chairs; Smashing Time; Delusions of Grandeur

Touch of Evil:

Odd Man Out; A time to Die; Internal Affairs ( hell, it's with Gere...-37); A question of Honor

The results are not at all what I expected, but interesting nonetheless and I am glad you have it and see it as a site improvement whether it shows items that I expected or not, but I rather expected that the choices coming up would bear some semblence to the original, whether it is generally  (or my rating ) acknowledged rating; same time period; similar director/actors; etc...I do like that the films that come up, do include 'foreign' as similar

I have not tried this at GreenCine or Netflix to compare.



     

            
patches
patches
Posts 120

Re: Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



Jymkata:

I agree with Rizzo - I love the idea of recommendation systems, but I got frustrated when the same newest releases kept popping up. Rizzo and I also use filmaffinity and movielens and I like filmaffinity for it's classic and foreign recommendations (lots of spanish flics) and I had never even heard of Luis Garcia Berlanga before ( and I consider myself pretty well read in film)  - now that my Spanish soulmates have all raved about him I can't wait to see his stuff. Movielens recommendation system is really close to perfection (it just needs more titles) because it's predicted ratings are almost always spot on for me and they have some variety (classic, foreign, cult) to their recommendations.

These are my initial thoughts. I will say that I was excited to see a new feature here and spent some time trying it out. 

I found that I going through about four "pages" of more popular movies (what you're talking about here Rizzo and Jymkakta) was the tipping point for me. After that, I started getting some obscure (and really good!) ones coming up.

I have a new problem now though... I have about 2000 movies "I want to see", and only about 1000 of those are ones I'll end up actually watching in my lifetime. I think I'll make myself a couple new lists "Movie I NEED to see" "Movies that have been recommended to me, that I haven't seen yet" so I can sort my "I want to see" list a little better.

I think my goal is a little different from other people here at Spout tho... Sort all the movies into 2 lists.

1.) "Movies I haven't seen"

and

2)"Movie I have seen"

 then have SUB-lists :-). I do like how quickly this allows me to run through movies on Spout now. There was a lot of browsing that needed to happen before I could have information, and ability to rate and list at my fingertips. It's all happening so fast!

 I joined MovieLens to give it a try, I'm an Alligator "Alligators enjoy the dramatic, the sad, the powerful. One of their favorite movies is Winged Migration, but it makes them hungry."

 I've never seen Winged Migration... 



     

            
billhr
billhr
Posts 55

Re: Spout Feature Feedback: MovieMind



Thanks for all of the great, thoughtful feedback on MovieMind. The team and I have certainly been taking it to heart. To be honest, the first pass of the tool was really focused on the brand new user and offering them a reason to sign-up for membership to the site. Obviously there are issues when you have committed yourself to the site and have created some rather large lists...like the movies you've seen. We're are working to fix those things now and will be having something to show you all in the next week or so.

Thanks so much for your time and attention. We seem always to be able to count on our core membership for input!



     

            
slipofthetongue
slipofthetongue
Posts 28

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This feature is intriguing but I thought you should know that it doesn't work with a Mac browser.  I tried it with a more generic browser (Firefox) and it worked.  No need to exclude the millions of Mac users out there though so hopefully you can tweak it up a bit.  Good idea though but like anything, we need for it to work seemlessly before we will find it anything but annoying (honest but true).
thanks!


     

            
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