HORROR MOVIES 101

Re: hard to scare

Risselada — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:57:07 GMT

Dr_Gor:
And I thank you, Rizzo! As one of the very first members of this group, you perhaps know me about as well as anybody.

And a very fine group it has become!

Dr_Gor:
I was telling FroggyBabe recently that when I first joined SPOUT you and I didn't get along very well, but over time we seem to have grown on each other a bit. She said, "Yeah, like fungus...".

Ah well no one gets along well all the time. If they do, then they aren't really engaging! Where is the fun otherwise?

Dr_Gor:
Anyhow, I enjoy talking to you, as well, Rizzo... You are intelligent and knowledgeable and you get my sense of humor! (sometimes).

I try. I try. (I must laugh or face the wrath!). :)

Dr_Gor:
It is a pleasure to have you here!

Right back atcha!

Dr_Gor:
I enjoyed the original version of "Cape Fear" a great deal, and Robert Mitchum's 'Max Cady' DID remind me of me more than Deniro in the remake. Although that version was quite good as well! Also, if I WERE tempted to seduce someone's teenage daughter for nothing more than revenge, it would be an added bonus if she happened to look like Juliet Lewis!

All the more reason for me to search out that remake when I'm done with this one!

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:57:36 GMT

And I thank you, Rizzo! As one of the very first members of this group, you perhaps know me about as well as anybody. I was telling FroggyBabe recently that when I first joined SPOUT you and I didn't get along very well, but over time we seem to have grown on each other a bit. She said, "Yeah, like fungus...".

She said something else I found interesting one night... I forget the details of the conversation, but she said, "You ARE a little scary." To which I replied, "I am SUPPOSED to be scary! I'm Dr. GOR!"

Anyhow, I enjoy talking to you, as well, Rizzo... You are intelligent and knowledgeable and you get my sense of humor! (sometimes). It is a pleasure to have you here!

I enjoyed the original version of "Cape Fear" a great deal, and Robert Mitchum's 'Max Cady' DID remind me of me more than Deniro in the remake. Although that version was quite good as well! Also, if I WERE tempted to seduce someone's teenage daughter for nothing more than revenge, it would be an added bonus if she happened to look like Juliet Lewis!

Another movie where I saw a great deal of myself in Robert Mitchum's performance would be "El Dorado"! That's right! The John Wayne western!

Re: hard to scare

Risselada — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:56:27 GMT

Dr_Gor:
SO, I guess barring any other comments, we can call this meeting of the 'Dr. Gor Fan Club' officially closed... Unless anybody else would like to make a comment about me? Miss June? Puhnner? Rizzo? Speak now or forever hold your peace...

Sorry I've been absent for the holiday weekend. But I'd certainly love to join the Dr. Gor fan club.

Since you really seem to get excited by the idea of someone "tearing into you" and most everyone has pussied out so far, I will make the comment that yes you definitely can be a real dickhead. But you seem to love it. And I certainly find you and this group you have created quite fascinating. Even this unsual drama with you hooking up with FroggyBabe.

Yes Gor, I have a real blast talking with you. And yes I think if I had to meet you in real life, I may be rather frightened. Although specifics are continually avoided, maybe that's part of the reason why your supposed "bad-guy" side sounds even more ominous.

I'm currently in the middle of Cape Fear, and I'm only halfway through but Robert Mitchum is potentially one of the most menacing characters I've ever seen in a movie. But somehow totally fascinating too. Sometimes I can see you in his part Gor.

Re: hard to scare

indieabby88 — Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:27:40 GMT

I've been sufficiently creeped out by movies before, but, now that I think of it, never outright scared. At least not by "conventional" horror movies. "Saw II" did give me some pretty disturbing dreams, but as far as outright terror, I can't really say that horror movies have scared me. This might be due to my selectiveness in choosing which horror films I watch. For example, I've got a mannequin-phobia. Any episode of the Twilight Zone dealing with mannequins, like the house of wax episode where the guy keeps the "Murderer's Row" figures in his basement, or the one where the department store dummies come alive after hours...I couldn't go into a dark room for about a day and a half after watching those. Gave me the heebie-jeebies. Anyway, my point is, if I were to watch a horror movie that played right to my worst fears, that movie would probably scare the pants off me. As it is, nothing comes to mind.

The movies that DO really scare me, however, the ones that stick with me, are the ones that seem plausible. In fact, the last two movies in recent memory that had me white-knuckled weren't even horror films! "The Last King of Scotland" totally freaked me out, not just because of what I was seeing on screen (although that itself was bad enough) but because I knew that most of what I was watching, in some form or another, actually happened. Idi Amin was a real person. He really was insane. He killed a lot of people, more or less exactly the way it was portrayed in the movie. The fact that people like him are real, that this kind of stuff did happen, and is happening, I find that really scary.

The other movie that, for a good month or so, had me looking over my shoulder, was "Shallow Grave." I'm not sure why, but for some reason Christopher Eccleston's character really scared me. I kept getting visions of him coming after me with a hand-drill. It wasn't pretty. Maybe it was because I started out the movie really liking him, but then seeing him go totally insane kind of floored me. The ending was so totally cold. *shivers*. Anyway, I thought it was really effective.

Re: hard to scare

divinemsjunebug — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:00:56 GMT

Ahhh Gor, you are such a cutie... I wish I was young...sigh...but I still feel and think young, I think that keeps me looking youngISH. ;0)

It was really funny, the other night I was watching The Exorcist and folding laundry, all of a sudden my stupid ass cat decided to go a little hog wild and make a wild leap on my laundry from out of NOWHERE!! It was right at the part in the Exorcist where he is listening to the tape of the voices. I just about had a heart attack. damn cat. That movie still makes me put the covers over my head.

I LOVE the Legend of Hell House, talk about creepy and suspense, it is a great movie. The others are in that category as well. Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer really freaked me out because it was so real, that was what was terrifying about that movie.

I enjoyed Darkness falls, I loved the story behind it and I liked the "tooth fairy" creature hovering above the bed, it gave me goosebumps.

I had a friend over to watch The Ring because she had never seen it before, she doesn't like scary movies but I told her, I thought this one was kind of mild. We get to the part where they find Samara's body in the well and everything looks like it's going to be a happy ending...so she turns to me and says, hmmmm, you were right, that movie was creepy but it wasn't that bad. THEN we get to the ending, I thought she was going to run off screaming. Of course I think I've traumatized her for life. poor thing. Oh well, hee hee hee. It's so irritating that most of my friends do not like scary movies, even the men I date don't like scary movies. I'm on a quest for new scary movie friends...

Movies this day and age have lost a lot of that suspense, they just want to get to the blood and gore and not have the - OH MY GOD SOMEONE IS HIDING IN THE SHADOWS - kind of feel to it.

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:42:43 GMT

Thank you for that, Miss June. You are a very sweet and charming and beautiful young lady as well! I have never worried about what people think about me so I have never been afraid to speak my mind. It is nice to know, however, that all of you sweet and pretty young ladies like me and as long as I have that, then nothing else really matters.

I DO have some thoughts on movies that are genuinely scary.... besides "The Exorcist" , which is STILL considered by many people (myself included) to be the 'scariest movie ever made', there ARE some others, both old and new, that I thought were genuinely frightening.

"Darkness Falls" I thought was quite terrifying (although I know a lot of people don't agree with this) perhaps because I have had similar experiences with creatures such as this... "The Ring" , the first one, I found to be quite creepy as well... Some others I feel worth mention would include;

"The Haunting" (original)

"The Legend Of Hell House"

"The Hills Have Eyes" (original)

"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" (original)

"Henry: Portrait Of A Serial Killer"

I'll be back with more later... Peace and Love, GOR

Re: hard to scare

divinemsjunebug — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:28:08 GMT

Hmmm, that could be a new movie, "The many personalities of Gor" - Well, Greg, maybe you should put a disclaimer at the end of your posts that say - Any offense taken is a result of you not knowing who I am and know that I just love a good heated discussion, please do not take it personally and know that I really care in my own special way - hee hee.

Okay, I will throw in my two cents, I have only known the very sweet, funny side of Gor (especially when talking about a cute little Froggy girl) - I guess since I am a pretty good judge of people (even on the internet) I know that when he is a little...hmm how should we say? Short with people you know, telling people to get their heads out of their ass, taunting people, disagreeing completely with people and making them think they have really bad tastes in everything...ha ha - he is just speaking the way he feels, no sugar coating - take me as I am attitude. I view all of that with a lot of fun and amusement and like to see what he is going to say next. Big hugs Greg! :0)

Yes, there really aren't a lot of movies in this day and age that really freak me out, scare me. Of course I am probably so desensitized (spelling) and it would take quite a lot. The Descent came pretty close, but I don't know if it really scared me or just kept me on the edge of my seat, it seems like I did cover my eyes a couple of times...

The new Halloween that is coming out looks like it might give us a lot more chills and shivers. I can't wait to see it, I hope it's as good as it looks!

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:21:13 GMT

And I thank you, my dear sweet Froggy, for that! It also just happens that I love YOU, more than you will ever know!

OK, to sum it all up, I guess I can be quite a jerk and a 'bad-guy' if I don't like you... (believe me when I say that you people don't know the half of it! Let's just say that Robert's assesment of me is a little more accurate than my two lady friends) ... And, yes, if you are a pretty female you have nothing to fear from me. It should be pointed out, however, that I DO have a couple of very good MALE friends who are quite tolerant of my evil and wicked disposition! Froggy and Polly can attest to this. I guess it just depends on whether I like you or not. I DO like EVERYONE in this group... with the possible exception of Robert... He and I have sort of a love/hate relationship but he IS a virtual 'walking encyclopedia' when it comes to Horror Films so I put up with him... although I DID tell him just the other night that I could break his neck with one hand tied behind my back! (which I could!) ...

SO, I guess barring any other comments, we can call this meeting of the 'Dr. Gor Fan Club' officially closed... Unless anybody else would like to make a comment about me? Miss June? Puhnner? Rizzo? Speak now or forever hold your peace...

Re: hard to scare

FroggyBaBe15876 — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:44:06 GMT

So I'm supposed to comment on this rather strange...argument? Conversation? I don't know. Whatever it is. Though I can't use big words like Robert, I'll try my best to get my point across as well as possible.

The good Doctor is, indeed, a strange one. Perhaps the strangest person I've ever met...who I didn't want dead. He can be sarcastic and blunt and downright mean sometimes. But not to me, really! His last statement, about being nice to pretty girls, is quite accurate. That just worries me about what would happen if one was a very ugly male...

Anyway, I think the Doc resembles Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, but I've really only come across Jekyll. Hyde can emerge a time or another, but, it seems that I have the ability to ignore him and/or wait 'til the potion wears off. Either way, I guess I have it easier than you fellows. I also happen to love the guy, so that makes me a bit bias. But that's all I have to say about that, kids. In the future, though, be nicer to each other!

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:24:07 GMT

Thank you so much for that, my sweet Polly! I guess, in hindsight, I am probably much nicer to pretty girls than I am to most other people... imagine that! Oh well, there are two sides to every coin, I guess...

Re: hard to scare

polly — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:35:29 GMT

O.k. I'll reply- but I think- I don't know you as well as you think I do..... Blood thirsy? Jack ass? I don't know any thing about that. -a dangerous wild card -yes. And I only say that from hear say- So, My sweet Gor, I wish only to believe what my innocence allows ...you are that which is (sweet) Ok? sorry I couldn't be of more help. Polly

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:44:34 GMT

Phantasma-gore-ia:

I believe you said "go easy on me," but if that's not what you want...
Dr. Gor is a complete jackass and can be as bullheadead as a, well, bull. He's prurient, bloodthirsty, defensive and unscrupulous. He's very outspoken, highly unashamed of pretty much everything, a dangerous wild card whose family I pity and as degenerate a ball of scum as I've ever seen. He's violent, deranged, unpredictable, underhanded, devious and conniving.
If you want more, you know where to get it. :)

This could be interesting.... there are two other members in this group who actually KNOW me personally and I would like to get their opinions on this subject as well! How accurate IS Robert's description of me?

The first, of course, is my dear sweet love, FroggyBabe. The second is a close personal friend whom I have lusted after since we were kids, Polly!

Would either of you gorgeous young ladies care to comment on this? I think it might be most informative for our other members as well...

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:28:06 GMT

OK! Now THAT'S the Robert I know and love! AND a fairly accurate description of me as well! I think you know me a little better than I thought you did!

Please come back and verbally abuse me any time you want!

By the way... do you have any suggestions of something that might scare 'ThulsaDoom' (the guy who started this conversation)? Besides ME?

Re: hard to scare

Phantasma-gore-ia — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:47:55 GMT

I believe you said "go easy on me," but if that's not what you want...

Dr. Gor is a complete jackass and can be as bullheadead as a, well, bull. He's prurient, bloodthirsty, defensive and unscrupulous. He's very outspoken, highly unashamed of pretty much everything, a dangerous wild card whose family I pity and as degenerate a ball of scum as I've ever seen. He's violent, deranged, unpredictable, underhanded, devious and conniving.

If you want more, you know where to get it. :)

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:19:58 GMT

Actually, Robert, we have known each other for YEARS now! Not months. It has been at least two years so that qualifies!

Also, I asked you to tear into me a little bit... just like always... and you wussed out and decided to be 'Mr. Nice Guy' for a change! What? Are you on some medication or something?

Re: hard to scare

Phantasma-gore-ia — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:35:59 GMT

Dr. Gor, it must be pointed out, is an acquired taste. I still haven't acquired him and I've known him for several months now. He, like me, can be a major trial to put up with, a real pebble in one's shoe. In these situations, however, our motivation for being difficult is our drive for quality movies, our appreciation for filmdom in general and our insatiable desire to get out of our own lives for a while and enjoy the misery and suffering of someone else's.

O.K., so it's not always that dire, but film is escapism and always has been. Sometimes, I know I have, we (film fans) get worked up about what means the most to us and occasionally we take it too far. We don't mean any harm, but it can certainly come off that way for people who either aren't used to us, don't see things exactly as we do, or perhaps both.

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:27:04 GMT

TheWorkingDead:

I didn't say you were wrong to think Evil Dead 1 was the scariest. I agree that it has the most horrific tone throughout. I merely said *I* enjoyed the second one better. For sheer entertainment value, my money is on Evil Dead 2. I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Evil Dead 2 is like Abbot and Costello. Sure it had slapstick, and jokes, but I still say it's closer to Texas Chainsaw Massacre than Abbot and Costello.
And, don't take this the wrong way, I was not, I repeat NOT trying to antagonize you. This is a discussion board. You mentioned a movie you like, I stated a disagreement and offered a movie *I* like. I thought that was the way things work. But, if it bugs you, I'll simply stop replying to any of your posts. However, seeing how prevelant your posts in this group are, that might mean I stop contributing altogether.

And, to keep this on topic: Evil Dead 1; scarier. Evil Dead 2; better(in my opinion, which is no better or worse than your own).

Now, take it easy there, Aaron... You don't mind if I use your name do you? It is so much easier for me to type! ... Anyhow, don't get your panties in a bunch! I was just having fun, like I normally do, and I meant nothing against you! If you want to see some people REALLY go at it, then check out some of the conversations between my 'partner', Pantasma-gore-ia (aka Robert), and I! I will see if I can coax him out from under his rock to respond to this... THEN you will see something! Anyhow, I enjoy ALL of your posts IMMENSELY and I think you are a VERY valuable and knowledgeable member of this group! So, Please, Keep up the good work and don't take anything I say too seriously...

By the way... you really SHOULD go to our Scary Movie Quotes Game and guess my quote(s) and help keep the ball rolling! I would appreciate it!

Your Buddy, GOR

Re: hard to scare

TheWorkingDead — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:38:27 GMT

I should say(although maybe I already did), that I agree that part one is scarier. I just find the second one more fun and enjoyable to watch. The same way I agree that the first gremlins is scarier, but it's hard to beat Tony Randall, Christopher Lee, and all those crazy genetically altered gremlins.

And about my statements regarding editing them all; that came from one of the commentaries Sam Raimi did(I cant recall which movie, probably Army of Darkness), and he basically said what you quoted above, with the addition that DeLaurentis for part two, and then Universal for part three, each of them figured the preceding movie wasn't seen by enough people to make due without a recap.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say you should edit out Ash's recap in the third movie. But it fits, but with major costume and hairstyle changes,of course.

Re: hard to scare

Risselada — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:58 GMT

I prefer the first movie to the second as well.

Most people I know do like the second more though I think. The voters at IMDB do as well. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000600/filmorate

IIMDB trivia also says this on the matter

Often considered to be a remake of The Evil Dead (1981), however this is not accurate. The rights to show scenes from the original could not be obtained to re-cap what happened, so they recreated the beginning to explain how Ash got to the cabin, a headless Linda, etc.

Re: hard to scare

TheWorkingDead — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:03:42 GMT

I didn't say you were wrong to think Evil Dead 1 was the scariest. I agree that it has the most horrific tone throughout. I merely said *I* enjoyed the second one better. For sheer entertainment value, my money is on Evil Dead 2. I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that Evil Dead 2 is like Abbot and Costello. Sure it had slapstick, and jokes, but I still say it's closer to Texas Chainsaw Massacre than Abbot and Costello.

And, don't take this the wrong way, I was not, I repeat NOT trying to antagonize you. This is a discussion board. You mentioned a movie you like, I stated a disagreement and offered a movie *I* like. I thought that was the way things work. But, if it bugs you, I'll simply stop replying to any of your posts. However, seeing how prevelant your posts in this group are, that might mean I stop contributing altogether.

And, to keep this on topic: Evil Dead 1; scarier. Evil Dead 2; better(in my opinion, which is no better or worse than your own).

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:58:16 GMT

You DO like to try and antagonize me, don't you, Aaron? I am FIRM in my statement (and in other areas as well) , that "The Evil Dead" is FAR superior to "Evil Dead 2" AND "Army Of Darkness" ...

"The Evil Dead" is a pure HORROR FILM... in the 'old school' tradition! The 'follow-ups' were merely comedies... the likes of "Abbott And Costello Meet Frankenstein" ...

I like the original one much better...

Re: hard to scare

TheWorkingDead — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:25:16 GMT

Evil Dead 1 was great, but part two just has more sheer entertainment value, for me. And, if you make the following edits, the series would play as one long movie:

The first 15-20 minutes of Evil Dead 2, begin the movie right at the point where Ash is being flung through the trees, and it fits nicely to the end of part one. After that, everything fits. The dead girlfriend could just as easily be the girl from the first movie. Edit out the final shot of part 2, which shows the knights cheering him on. Show him falling and being poked at by the knights, but then cut to the scene in the beginning of part three where he's being taken to the castle in chains. And there, it all fits. The reason those scenes were in the originals in the first place was that each company making the movies didn't think most of the audience had seen the originals.

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:04:14 GMT

By the way, thulsadoom, I really liked your comment about "Evil Dead" and "The Evil Dead 2" ... Yes, they are VERY MUCH the same movie! With one big difference... The first one was more of a 'straight -up' Horror Movie , while the second was basically a remake with a lot more comedy... Personally, I liked the original far better than ANY of the sequels...

Re: hard to scare

Dr_Gor — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:50:47 GMT

Thank you for joining our humble group, thulsadoom! And thank you for your post! It is a pleasure to have you here!

I would assume that you are a fan of "Conan: The Barbarian" in some form or other? (the movie, the comics, the books, the TV series) In that case, you might appreciate the 'tagline' on my home page!

As far as what scares you, that is a very personal matter for each and every individual. I suppose that DEATH is the underlying factor in what scares most of us, but it goes much deeper than that... into HOW we die! Appearantly, some ways are more horrific than others! For instance, if you live on the beach and go swimming in the ocean after dark (or even during the day) "JAWS" might just scare the bejeezus out of you! Or if you had ever had some unpleasant experiences with the 'supernatural', then "The Exorcist" or "The Omen" or "The Amityville Horror" or "The Shining" or "The Legend Of Hell House" might scare you! Or, if you are afraid of camping in the woods at night, then "Deliverance" or "The Hills Have Eyes" or "Wrong Turn" might get you! I think you get the idea. Let me know what REALLY scares you (clowns?) ... and I will write you a prescription!

hard to scare

thulsadoom1sc — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:44:13 GMT

i have found that even though i like a lot of horror movies i am not easily scared not since the exorsist when i was 6 have i been really scared well maybe a little with the evil dead 1 and 2 wait is that the same movie oh well so im looking for the one that can get me