Adept Adaptationshttp://www.spout.com/groups/Queer_Cinema/318/discussions.aspxen-USSpout RSSRe: Queer Musicians + Film = ?http://www.spout.com/groups/Queer_Cinema/Re_Queer_Musicians_Film/318/15641/1/ShowPost.aspxMon, 23 Jul 2007 19:26:37 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:15641marincat1<p>I couldn&#39;t agree with you more about the stereotypical depiction of anyone queer in the cinema.&nbsp; Although Priscilla, Queen of the Desert is just that, it was a fun movie and had great music to go along with it.&nbsp; I accept this film as being ok in the sphere of the stereotypical because I think it had a lot of heart and soul.&nbsp; It was different and completely entertaining.&nbsp;</p><p>De-Lovely and Fame were very much glossed over in their dealing with homosexuality.&nbsp; In that sense, I find these more offensive that the blatant ones.&nbsp; Sure, stereotypes are used in The Bird Cage and Priscilla, but at least they directly convey the lifestyle of the characters.&nbsp; In De-Lovely, it was so Hollywood-ized, that what should have been a film about a famous gay person was demoted to allusions and "hidden agendas".&nbsp; </p><p>It seems to me that the more money that is poured into a film the less accurate it is in telling the real story.&nbsp; Advances have certainly been made in representing queer cinema, but often times it is at the expense of reality.&nbsp; In my mind, television has done a far better job at putting forth authentic queer themes than movies have.</p><p>I will have to think about some independent and foreign films that connect musicians and queer cinema.....will do in a bit!</p>Queer Musicians + Film = ?http://www.spout.com/groups/Queer_Cinema/Queer_Musicians_Film/318/15586/1/ShowPost.aspxMon, 23 Jul 2007 03:25:27 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:15586unemployedwaif1<p>The addition of our talented new member nathan503 got me to thinking about representations of queer musicians and how they are portrayed and/or their music is used in film.</p><p>For me, at least what is coming to mind at this moment, are the glam rockers; specifically&nbsp;Todd Haynes&#39; <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/114751/default.aspx" title="Velvet Goldmine (1998)">Velvet Goldmine</a> and&nbsp;John Cameron Mitchell&#39;s <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/184310/default.aspx" title="Hedwig and The Angry Inch (2001)">Hedwig and the Angry Inch</a>. Both films are written and directed by gay men about queer musicians and miraculously succeed at telling poignant, engaging stories that don&#39;t fall victim to the abundance of stereotypical cliches that so many others do.</p><p>Within recent years, a number of films have begun to delve into the lives of rather famous musicians of the past whose queer sensibilities have only recently come to light. Irwin Winkler&#39;s <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/227732/default.aspx" title="De-Lovely (2004)">De-Lovely</a> which chronicles the life of Cole Porter, and Atom Egoyan&#39;s <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/251295/default.aspx" title="Where the Truth Lies (2005)">Where The Truth Lies</a>. Unfortunately, due to the (homophobic) powers that be, the films tended to skim the surface of this aspect of their lives and ultimately disguised the queer elements to supposedly appeal to a wider audience. </p><p>However I think&nbsp;it is the Broadway composers and actors that have comprised a significant portion of cinemas representations of queer musicians. This tends to leak into films such as <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/90884/default.aspx" title="The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (1994)">The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert</a>, <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/93325/default.aspx" title="The Birdcage (1996)">The Birdcage</a>, and <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/92355/default.aspx" title="To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar (1995)">To Wong Foo, Thanks For Everything Julie Newmar</a> where the Broadway-obsessed, lisping queen steretype emerges and has definitely left its mark on society. <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/130788/default.aspx" title="Trick (1999)">Trick</a> delt with such an artist trying to make it in New York CIty and I liked how the film didn&#39;t sideline his musical aspirations and focus just on the relationship aspect of the film. The cinematic adaptation of <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/254178/default.aspx" title="Rent (2005)">Rent</a> also deals with young bohemian types trying to flourish in the big city. Films like <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/220042/default.aspx" title="Camp (2003)">Camp</a> and <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/11112/default.aspx" title="Fame (1980)">Fame</a> showcase the younger teenager set of queer musicians which are fun and oozingly poptastic.</p><p>In terms of un-campy portrayals of young modern musicians, I can&#39;t really think of too much. I know Gregg Araki has had both queer musicians as characters and as actors in his films like <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/20654/default.aspx" title="The Living End (1992)">The Living End</a> and <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/110694/default.aspx" title="Nowhere (1997)">Nowhere</a>&nbsp;but they aren&#39;t fully explored (and are acutally rather campy). <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/221923/default.aspx" title="Party Monster (2002)">Party Monster</a> has it&#39;s portrayal of DJ Keoki which again isn&#39;t really touched upon (and is rather razzle-dazzle). Rufus Wainwright pops up in <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/235468/default.aspx" title="Heights (2004)">Heights</a> but not as himself nor as a musician (I&#39;m pretty sure he&#39;s labeled merely an artist). Stephin Merritt (a gay acoustic artist) scored and contributed a number of songs to <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/220047/default.aspx" title="Pieces of April (2003)">Pieces of April</a> which is primarily populated with straight characters (aside from Sean Hayes playing an amalgam of Jack and Karen from Will &amp; Grace) so that can&#39;t really be counted.</p><p>So yeah, the representations of queer musicians in film mostly fall victim to cliched stereotypes and/or waxed over to appeal to the heteronormative populace. Since this has been a rather superficial glossing over of the sub-genre, which films have you guys enjoyed/loathed that spotlight queer musicians? And if you don&#39;t mind, list some of the films that I haven&#39;t (and probably haven&#39;t seen) to help broaden all of our horizons.</p><p>&nbsp;- Chris</p>