Weekly Themehttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/625/discussions.aspxen-USSpout RSSRe:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/38216/1/ShowPost.aspxWed, 10 Dec 2008 23:23:55 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:38216Risselada9<p><BLOCKQUOTE><div><img src="http://www.spout.com/images/icon-quote.gif"> <strong>leeroy711:</strong></div><div></p> <p>Oh and you can't forget the western genre. There may have never been a better anti-hero than "Blondie" in the "<a title="A Fistful of Dollars (1964)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/A_Fistful_of_Dollars/11801/default.aspx">man</a> <a title="For a Few Dollars More (1965)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/For_a_Few_Dollars_More/12167/default.aspx">with</a> <a title="The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Good_the_Bad_and_the_Ugly/13811/default.aspx">no name</a>" trilogy.</div></BLOCKQUOTE></p> <p>Yeah and pretty much any subsequent Clint Eastwood western or Spaghetti Western.</p> <p>And yeah Quentin Tarantino pretty much writes all anit-heros.&nbsp; That's because the grindhouse B-movie type of movies that he is inspired by is driven by them.</p> <p><em><a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Bonnie_and_Clyde/4050/default.aspx">Bonnie and Clyde</a></em> would be a good major release example though.</p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/38150/1/ShowPost.aspxTue, 09 Dec 2008 23:07:30 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:38150Smooth_J9<p>I'm a bit late to the game here, but <a title="Darkman (1990)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Darkman/8056/default.aspx">Darkman</a> fits the mold of anti-hero--he seems to alternately wreak havoc and kill bad guys.&nbsp; But, it is a Sam Raimi B-movie, so pretty much anything goes.&nbsp; And he's one ugly ****.</p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/38034/1/ShowPost.aspxMon, 08 Dec 2008 07:19:12 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:38034Dr_Gor9<p>&nbsp;&nbsp; Charlie Bronson in ALL of the&nbsp; <a title="Death Wish (1974)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Death_Wish/8493/default.aspx"><em>Death Wish</em></a><em>&nbsp; </em>movies as well as&nbsp; <a title="The Dirty Dozen (1967)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Dirty_Dozen/9188/default.aspx"><em>The Dirty Doizen</em></a><em>&nbsp; </em>and&nbsp; <em>The Magnificent Seven&nbsp; </em>and&nbsp;&nbsp; <em><a title="The White Buffalo (1977)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_White_Buffalo/38148/default.aspx"><em>The&nbsp;White Buffalo</em></a>&nbsp; </em>and&nbsp; <a title="Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Once_Upon_a_Time_in_the_West/25435/default.aspx"><em>Once Upon A Time In The West</em></a><em>&nbsp; </em>AND&nbsp; <a title="Mr. Majestyk (1974)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Mr_Majestyk/23462/default.aspx"><em>Mr. Majestyk</em></a><em>&nbsp; </em>AND&nbsp; <em>The Mechanic</em>&nbsp; AND&nbsp; <a title="From Noon Till Three (1976)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/From_Noon_Till_Three/12640/default.aspx"><em>From Noon Till Three</em></a><em>&nbsp;</em>...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/37943/1/ShowPost.aspxThu, 04 Dec 2008 19:07:10 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37943csprague9<p>Don't hold back Merc. Let it all out.&nbsp;</p> <p>Anyway, I have been kind of thinking for a long time that all Christopher Nolan leads are kind of anti-heros, if not from the beginning, definitely by the end of the movie. Usually they are in love with a girl who ends up dying and they are consumed by the need for revenge. I think&nbsp;<a title="Memento (2000)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Memento/171936/default.aspx">Memento</a>,&nbsp;<a title="The Prestige (2006)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Prestige/270977/default.aspx">The Prestige</a>, and&nbsp;<a title="The Dark Knight (2008)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Dark_Knight/288704/default.aspx">The Dark Knight</a>&nbsp;all follow this pattern.</p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/37923/1/ShowPost.aspxThu, 04 Dec 2008 06:50:15 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37923mercurial9<p><BLOCKQUOTE><div><img src="http://www.spout.com/images/icon-quote.gif"> <strong>rjsprague:</strong></div><div></p> <p>Merc took all of my ideas! (At least that's my story)</p> <p>I honestly am having trouble with this one.</p> <p></div></BLOCKQUOTE></p> <p>Hehe, sorry about that. I went a little crazy with this one. I'll make sure to limit my future posts to allow others a chance to contribute.</p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/37921/1/ShowPost.aspxThu, 04 Dec 2008 03:22:26 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37921leeroy7119<p><BLOCKQUOTE><div><img src="http://www.spout.com/images/icon-quote.gif"> <strong>mciocco:</strong></div><div></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Sanjuro in <em>Yojimbo</em> and<a title="Sanjuro (1962)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Sanjuro/29995/default.aspx"> Sanjuro</a></p> <p>I totally agree with the previous choice of The Man With No Name, and Sanjuro is basically the same character (after all, <a title="A Fistful of Dollars (1964)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/A_Fistful_of_Dollars/11801/default.aspx">A Fistful of Dollars </a>is basically the same as <em>Yojimbo</em>)</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p></div></BLOCKQUOTE></p> <p>I could have probably done a whole week just on Kurosawa anti-heros. Think of Koichi Nishi in <a title="The Bad Sleep Well (1960)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Bad_Sleep_Well/2200/default.aspx">The Bad Sleep Well</a>. Another character completely motivated by revenge.</p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/37919/1/ShowPost.aspxThu, 04 Dec 2008 02:08:44 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37919mciocco9<p>Interesting anime picks:)</p> <p>Here are some others I thought of:</p> <p>Harry Callahan from <a title="Dirty Harry (1971)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Dirty_Harry/9194/default.aspx">Dirty Harry</a></p> <p>He's so likeable that most people probably wouldn't even peg him as an anti-hero, but when you think about it, he really boils down to a vigilante. &nbsp;&nbsp; Indeed, Eastwood took so much crap for it that the sequel had him firmly rebuffing real vigilantes. &nbsp;He's a "the ends justify the means" kinda guy though, which lands him on this list:)</p> <p>'Mad' Max Rockatansky from <a title="Mad Max (1979)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Mad_Max/21308/default.aspx">Mad Max </a>and <a title="The Road Warrior (1981)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Road_Warrior/41897/default.aspx">The Road Warrior</a></p> <p>&nbsp;A good guy who is twisted by vengeance, etc... but eventually comes back to do the right thing.</p> <p>Travis Bickle from <a title="Taxi Driver (1976)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Taxi_Driver/34219/default.aspx">Taxi Driver</a></p> <p>Ok, so he's a little weird and some may have trouble relating to him, but he's really just exaggerated for effect. I think there's a little of Travis Bickle in everyone. &nbsp;He's basically a good guy and wants to do good in the world, he just doesn't know how to do that...</p> <p>Henry Hil from <a title="GoodFellas (1990)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/GoodFellas/13828/default.aspx">Goodfellas</a></p> <p>You can totally understand and relate to this guy, even though he's clearly a lowlife scumbag gangster:p</p> <p>Sanjuro in <em>Yojimbo</em> and<a title="Sanjuro (1962)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Sanjuro/29995/default.aspx"> Sanjuro</a></p> <p>I totally agree with the previous choice of The Man With No Name, and Sanjuro is basically the same character (after all, <a title="A Fistful of Dollars (1964)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/A_Fistful_of_Dollars/11801/default.aspx">A Fistful of Dollars </a>is basically the same as <em>Yojimbo</em>)</p> <p>Neil McCauley and for that matter, Lt. Vincent Hanna from <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Heat/92707/default.aspx">Heat</a></p> <p>Flip sides of a coin, these are both likeable and flawed characters.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/37914/1/ShowPost.aspxWed, 03 Dec 2008 23:41:20 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37914rjsprague9<p>Merc took all of my ideas! (At least that's my story)</p> <p>I honestly am having trouble with this one. Maybe I just don't know what a traditional hero is. I kind of see all heros as being fucked up in one way or another. Perhaps the whole greek tragedy with their flawed hero characters has stuck with me since high school.</p> <p>I'll go with some anime for now -</p> <p>Gutz - from <a title="Berserk [Anime Series] (1997)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Berserk_Anime_Series/214942/default.aspx">Berserk</a></p> <p>Van - from <a title="Gun Sword: Episode 1: Tuxedo Blowing in the Wind (2005)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Gun_Sword_Episode_1_Tuxedo_Blowing_in_the_Wind/315038/default.aspx">Gun X Sword</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Dracula - from <a title="Hellsing [Anime Series] (2001)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Hellsing_Anime_Series/263598/default.aspx">Hellsing</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Himura Kenshin - from <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Rurouni_Kenshin_Anime_Series/222601/default.aspx" target="_blank">Rurouni Kenshin</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Rock - from <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Black_Lagoon_Anime_Series/349782/default.aspx" target="_blank">Black Lagoon</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Lelouche - from <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Code_Geass_Lelouch_of_the_Rebellion_Anime_Series/386955/default.aspx" target="_blank">Code Geass</a></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Spike - from <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Cowboy_Bebop_Anime_Series/214763/default.aspx">Cowboy Bebop</a></p>Re:Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/37830/1/ShowPost.aspxTue, 02 Dec 2008 02:30:22 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37830mercurial9<p>Great theme Leeroy!</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><a title="The Silence of the Lambs (1991)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Silence_of_the_Lambs/31277/default.aspx">The Silence of the Lambs</a>&nbsp;- Hannibal Lector</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Sick, perverse yet you can't help rooting for him to get out of prison.</p> <p><a title="A Clockwork Orange (1971)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/A_Clockwork_Orange/6454/default.aspx">A Clockwork Orange</a>&nbsp;- Alex DeLarge</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Again, sick and perverse but you're still rooting for the bastard.</p> <p><a title="The Professional (1994)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Professional/91287/default.aspx">The Professional</a>&nbsp;- Leon</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Minimalist. Botanist. Cold-blooded killer.</p> <p><a title="Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (1985)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Mad_Max_Beyond_Thunderdome/21309/default.aspx">Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome</a>&nbsp;- Max</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>You thought he wasn't gonna help those aboriginal kids, didn't you!</p> <p><a title="Natural Born Killers (1994)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Natural_Born_Killers/90062/default.aspx">Natural Born Killers</a>&nbsp;- Mickey &amp; Mallory Knox</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Bring on the arguments, but I loved this cute little couple.</p> <p><a title="Kill Bill: The Unseen, Uncensored Full-Length Cut (2004)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Kill_Bill_The_Unseen_Uncensored_Full_Length_Cut/295406/default.aspx">Kill Bill</a>&nbsp;- Beatrix Kiddo</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Trained assassin that shows (almost) no mercy. Great female anti-hero.</p> <p><a title="Pitch Black (2000)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Pitch_Black/135832/default.aspx">Pitch Black</a>&nbsp;- Riddick</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Great role for Vin Diesel. He barely spoke the entire film.</p> <p><a title="Constantine (2005)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Constantine/205722/default.aspx">Constantine</a>&nbsp;- John Constantine</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Smoker. Sinner. Blasphemer. Suicidal. But still cool a pretty cool guy.</p> <p><a title="Hellboy (2004)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Hellboy/227708/default.aspx">Hellboy</a>&nbsp;- Anung un Rama, The Beast of the Apocalypse</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Again, smoker, blasphemer, jerk. But really nice to pyrokinetics, cats and the occasional human baby.</p> <p><a title="From Dusk Till Dawn (1996)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/From_Dusk_Till_Dawn/92716/default.aspx">From Dusk Till Dawn</a>&nbsp;- Seth Gecko</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Mass murderer. Kidnapper. Bank Robber. But we all still think he's badass. Even if it is George Clooney.</p> <p><a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Brick/256853/default.aspx">Brick</a> - Brenden Frye</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Loner. Plays rough with the ladies. Blackmailer. Smart little hard-boiled detective.</p> <p><a title="Point of No Return (1993)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Point_of_No_Return/26968/default.aspx">Point of No Return</a>&nbsp;- Maggie Hayward</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Druggie. Runaway. B*#$h. But really likable towards the end.</p> <p><a title="The Fifth Element (1997)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Fifth_Element/111021/default.aspx">The Fifth Element</a>&nbsp;- Korben Dallas</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Complete a*&amp;#@le but does good and gets the alien chick.</p> <p><a href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Crow/89418/default.aspx">The Crow</a> - Eric Draven</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Goth freak vigilante revenant (?) serial killer. But the good kind.</p> <p><a title="Fight Club (1999)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Fight_Club/134821/default.aspx">Fight Club</a>&nbsp;- Tyler Durden</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Thief. Terrorist. Womanizer. Soap Maker. Made every straight man just a little gay with his abnormally perfect abdominal muscles.</p> <p><a title="The Boondock Saints (2000)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Boondock_Saints/140360/default.aspx">The Boondock Saints</a>&nbsp;- Connor &amp; Murphy McManus</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Blah. Blah. Murderers. Blah. Blah. Alcoholics. Blah. Blah. Inspirational Vigilantes.</p> <p><a title="Sin City (2005)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Sin_City/242411/default.aspx">Sin City</a>&nbsp;- Marv</p> <p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>Brutish ogre with a soft spot for big breasted woman.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>Weekly Theme for December 1: The Anti-Herohttp://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Weekly_Theme_for_December_1_The_Anti_Hero/625/37820/1/ShowPost.aspxTue, 02 Dec 2008 00:30:28 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37820leeroy7119<p>From <a href="http://www.filmnoirstudies.com/glossary/index.asp">filmnoirstudies.com</a></p> <p><em>Anti-Hero -&nbsp; "The principal protagonist of a film who lacks the attributes or characteristics of a typical hero, but with whom the audience identifies"</em></p> <p>I just watched <a title="Branded to Kill (1967)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Branded_to_Kill/96745/default.aspx">Branded to Kill </a>by <a href="http://www.spout.com/groups/players/P___119458/default.aspx">Seijun Suzuki</a> the other night. It was a really good movie and I realized how much I like the way he writes his characters. This movie was about Hanada, a Japanese hit-man with a rice-sniffing habit. The anti-heroic element is obvious in this one but I also realized how much <a title="Story of a Prostitute (1965)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Story_of_a_Prostitute/95733/default.aspx">Story of a Prostitute</a> and <a title="Gate of Flesh (1964)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Gate_of_Flesh/58578/default.aspx">Gate of Flesh</a> were anti-hero films as well. You know, the proverbial "hooker with a heart of gold" type of a story.</p> <p>You find this in noir quite a bit. It almost seems manditory that the private eye have some sort of extra-marital affair and/or drinking problem.... or he's just a jerk. Probably my favorite example is Jake Gittes in <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Chinatown/5952/default.aspx" target="_blank">Chinatown</a>.</p> <p>Oh and you can't forget the western genre. There may have never been a better anti-hero than "Blondie" in the "<a title="A Fistful of Dollars (1964)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/A_Fistful_of_Dollars/11801/default.aspx">man</a> <a title="For a Few Dollars More (1965)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/For_a_Few_Dollars_More/12167/default.aspx">with</a> <a title="The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Good_the_Bad_and_the_Ugly/13811/default.aspx">no name</a>" trilogy.</p> <p>Kurt Russel makes a pretty good sci-fi anti-hero. Just think of Snake in <a title="Escape from New York (1981)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Escape_from_New_York/10648/default.aspx">Escape from New York</a> or Jack Burton in <a title="Big Trouble in Little China (1986)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Big_Trouble_in_Little_China/3247/default.aspx">Big Trouble in Little China</a>.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>That's all I've got, who's your favorite anti-hero????????? TELL ME NOW!!</p>