FilmCouchhttp://www.spout.com/groups/FilmCouch/302/discussions.aspxen-USSpout RSSRe:Question from FilmCouch #97: Are there any "pure" spy movies being made?http://www.spout.com/groups/FilmCouch/Re_Question_from_FilmCouch_97_Are_there_any_pur/302/37702/1/ShowPost.aspxThu, 27 Nov 2008 05:35:59 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37702jsanto3<p>The two that jumped to mind were <strong>Breach</strong> with Chris Cooper and The Schlesinger film from the 80's <strong>The Falcon And The Snowman</strong>, which has a great Sean Penn performance.</p>Re:Question from FilmCouch #97: Are there any "pure" spy movies being made?http://www.spout.com/groups/FilmCouch/Re_Question_from_FilmCouch_97_Are_there_any_pur/302/37585/1/ShowPost.aspxMon, 24 Nov 2008 19:10:47 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37585joem18b3<p>Because I have a Lucy Liu jones, I also want to mention <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/Code_Name_The_Cleaner/263332/default.aspx">Code Name: The Cleaner</a>.</p>Re:Question from FilmCouch #97: Are there any "pure" spy movies being made?http://www.spout.com/groups/FilmCouch/Re_Question_from_FilmCouch_97_Are_there_any_pur/302/37584/1/ShowPost.aspxMon, 24 Nov 2008 18:58:27 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37584mciocco3<p>Spy movies have definitely gotten away from the sort of glamorous travelogues that the original Bond movies kinda were. &nbsp;Most portray the life as being a tough, gritty one filled with betrayal, sacrifice and other depressing stuff. &nbsp;Even the "action" subgenre of spy films has that sort of thing (i.e. <a title="The Bourne Identity (2002)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Bourne_Identity/207478/default.aspx">Bourne </a>features all sorts of stuff about how being the spy eats up your life, etc...)</p> <p>So some examples of recent, less actiony spy flicks that you haven't mentioned in the podcast or in your post would include:</p> <p>Traitor (2008 - can't find it with the link to a movie tool thingy) - This is the recent movie starring Don Cheadle. &nbsp;There is some action and it's actually pretty cliched, but it's somewhat entertaining and it's much more focused on the psychology of terrorists than the spy aspect of it...</p> <p><a title="The Good Shepherd (2006)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Good_Shepherd/255832/default.aspx">The Good Shepherd</a> - Again, not at all glamorous, but this seems to be a dry recounting of early CIA machinations. &nbsp;I didn't much care for this movie, but it's not an action oriented spy film and the one thing I did like was the sorta brinkmanship between Matt Damon's character and his Soviet counterpart.</p> <p><a title="Syriana (2005)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Syriana/246515/default.aspx">Syriana</a> - Not glamorous and another movie I didn't particularly love, but it's got some interesting non-action spy stuff going on (mostly in the Cloony plotline - the others are not as spy oriented). &nbsp;It's too bad the plot is so intentionally obtuse. &nbsp;I got the feeling that Gaghan was attempting to play obscurity and for depth here.&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;<a title="Three Days of the Condor (1975)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Three_Days_of_the_Condor/34910/default.aspx">Three Days of the Condor </a>- Ok, so this isn't anywhere close to recent, but it's a pretty good spy story told from a non-action-oriented standpoint.</p> <p>But I also agree with your inclusion of Spy Game, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, and Breach, all of which I rather enjoyed (er, more than the films I listed above)</p> <p>I also thought of the Tom Clancy movies (<a title="The Hunt for Red October (1990)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Hunt_for_Red_October/16348/default.aspx">Hunt for Red October</a>, <a title="Patriot Games (1992)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Patriot_Games/26229/default.aspx">Patriot Games</a>, <a title="Clear and Present Danger (1994)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Clear_and_Present_Danger/91148/default.aspx">Clear and Present Danger</a>, and yes, even <a title="The Sum of All Fears (2002)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/The_Sum_of_All_Fears/207076/default.aspx">The Sum of All Fears</a>), but those might better be characterized as action movies (still, there's an inordinate amount of non-actiony stuff in those films that kinda works well).</p> <p>Another that jumped to mind was <a title="Sneakers (1992)" href="http://www.spout.com/films/Sneakers/31829/default.aspx">Sneakers</a>, though I'm not sure you could really characterize that as a spy film...</p> <p>That's all for now, but I'm positive I'm leaving something out...</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>Question from FilmCouch #97: Are there any "pure" spy movies being made?http://www.spout.com/groups/FilmCouch/Question_from_FilmCouch_97_Are_there_any_pure/302/37570/1/ShowPost.aspxMon, 24 Nov 2008 03:16:39 GMTcdd0f780-13db-4d93-b0f4-ada579d02ae7:37570joem18b3<p><a href="http://www.spout.com/blogs/joem18b/archive/2008/11/23/37569.aspx">My response</a> to the question, based on five or ten minutes of deep thought.</p>