Worst Movie Ever

Re:Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

seely — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:11 GMT

I think we're kind of beating a dead horse here, but I'll come to its defense. I don't think Independence Day ever aspired to be anything more than simply entertaining, like almost any other Will Smith movie. I don't really think plausibility is a consideration when you are making a film based on a comic book about a super secret government agency that not only fights aliens, but employs them as well.

Its a far-reaching plot, and yes, it fits into the formulaic summer blockbuster category, but I managed to laugh a few times, thought the storyline was interesting, and managed to stay entertained for an hour and a half. Is it a great film? Certainly not. Is it an entertaining movie? I submit that yes--if you can detach yourself from the confines of reality long enough to watch it--that it is in fact a pretty solid film.

dominicciampa:

This is one of the worst movies ever made. Not only is all the acting god awful, the plot is so laughable and the writing and delivery make me want to puke in my pants. Jeff Goldbloom is still obnoxious and not funny, and Will Smith is a scientoligist and Tom Cruise's Friend. I want Bill Pullman's speech from that film read at my funeral, so that everybody who hears it will see my dead body and think of that fecal matter filled film.

Re:Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

dominicciampa — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:30:12 GMT

This is one of the worst movies ever made. Not only is all the acting god awful, the plot is so laughable and the writing and delivery make me want to puke in my pants. Jeff Goldbloom is still obnoxious and not funny, and Will Smith is a scientoligist and Tom Cruise's Friend. I want Bill Pullman's speech from that film read at my funeral, so that everybody who hears it will see my dead body and think of that fecal matter filled film.

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magrebi — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:33:57 GMT

gonna throw in a late vote of not guilty... yeah, if you didn't enjoy this movie or if you didn't have a crack in your rock hard forwning face, you must ask yourself where your childhood imagination went!? maybe it wasn't great but serisouly this isn't that bad...

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ShuffleUp — Sun, 16 Sep 2007 04:21:07 GMT

although this certainly wouldn't be in my list of 10 deepest films, i don't think it merits the worst movie ever category either. There was considerable entertainment value in this movie... I thought the dynamics between will smith and jeff goldblume were exceptional in spots.

Re: Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

davisfreeberg — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 20:41:06 GMT

ID was a controversially film for our group, but at the end, there were enough not guilty votes to make this one an acquital. I'll add it to the list of movies set free and everyone can watch it this fourth and not feel any guilt over supporting a bad movie. There were many different opinons about the film, but overall, I think most of the group agree d that while it had it's bad moments, it also had some good parts too.

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joem18b — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:12:38 GMT

zuzu:
And what was with that scene in the tunnel where the (I think) woman was trying to outrun a bomb explosion?

ID is actually on my Top 5 Trying-to-outrun-a-fireball list.

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pippin06 — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:55:41 GMT

I don't know where the jury stands on ID:4 (looks like the guilty verdicts have more of the vote), but I vote that this is the best reply to this post! Too funny, minstrel.

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wandering_minstrel36 — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:35:25 GMT

I agree that it isn't the worst movie. Independence Day is a classic example of a great bad movie.It's very entertaining and most of all it wasn't attempting to pass as a great cinematic victory. It's sole purpose was to be a patriotic outlet for people on the fourth of July so they didn't haveto spend their whole day pretending to have fun with annoying relatives at the annual barbeque. I realize that this is a terrible generalization and appologize to those few people who do have fun at those get-togethers (clearly you are not hosting them). But I digress. To conclude, I believe that ID:4 accomplishes what it set out to do brilliantly and should be treated as a classic airline film.

Re: Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

KatiesFlicks — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:03:21 GMT

Sorry, this may not have been a great film, but worst movie ever? Hardly. I enjoyed Independence Day, it had a few laughs, decent special effects and I don't care if the characters weren't all that well developed, it was non-stop action. Do not impeach!
Also, I can't even believe Mars Attacks was listed throughout here as comparable to ID:4, I couldn't stop laughing during Mars Attacks. It was so ridiculous, it was absolutely hilarious.

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Rock — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:30:27 GMT

chileexpress:
I vote Independence Day ID:4 GUILTY of being the worst movie ever.

Too much to list

There is so much to pick apart. But I will take some highlights.

The very worst part of this movie is the simplistic way the virus was introduced into the mother ship. I can’t get Microsoft Train Simulator to run on my Microsoft Widows XP computer and all they had to do was click a load button!

Well they used a MAC laptop. It was a funny against Microsoft and their followers. It was also a MAC is so good that it works with Alien hardware. Goes back to the days of RISC vs CISC based processing.

A cable techie is the only person to find the sequential pattern imbedded in a signal?
SITI is specifically looking for such “intelligent” patterns.

You missed the part where he was an MIT graduate that was smart enough to work anywhere but was too lazy to try.

Why do the aliens need to use our satellites to relay a countdown? Surly if they can cross the vast distances of space they would have accurate chronometers!

Since it's the typical hierarchical management it requires one brain to control multiple hoards. If you are not sure what I am refereing to, read about The Soviet Union during the cold war and their military tactics. You will understand then. And even with advanced technology (something never really explained or argued in Star Trek) is how you deal with line of sight communications. How do you communicate with another ship when there is a planet between you?

Why not use the blue beam to shoot down the Air Force attackers? Instead they used fighters themselves?

Um, how would you? It fires straight down and is slow. That would be like using a Coastal Gun Implacement used to take out Battleships to shoot down a plane. That isn't what that weapon was designed for.

Sorry, basic logic was missing on these and hence was miss understood in the movie. My brain hurts. I'm going to go lay down.

Re: Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

Rock — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:18:56 GMT

spoutgirl:
No, SuperTroops is the number one worst movie ever. Independence Day is like the number 3 worst movie ever. Mars Attacks is number 2. Just to clarify.

Ouch, how can you say that about a GREAT FILM devouted to those 1950's B SCI Fi classic films? Mars Attacks epitomizes the spirit and fun of a 1950's B Rate SCI Fi film. No, they didn't give character development, budget, writting, etc.. of a Hollywood A list movie. But they were so funny and outlandish. This movie is in honor of those films. I'm shocked you didn't like it for that value alone.

Re: Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

chileexpress — Sun, 17 Sep 2006 04:39:40 GMT

I vote Independence Day ID:4 GUILTY of being the worst movie ever.

I am generally not a fan of UFO movies. I did like the Alien series and Mars Attacks. Both are fair examples of what I enjoy in a drama or comedy UFO movie.
I even enjoyed Predator as a drama / comedy and Spaced Invaders was funny.
Independence Day had many scenes that I found very distracting as so made the film less enjoyable with each one.
Some of the major problems are:

The synchronized multi televisions in the broadcast headquarters that carried the Presidents speech when the building had been emptied in panic, who or how would this be done?

The apparent complete lack of security at the base, very strange how this ultra top secrete base (not event the President knew of its existence) has everybody from the RV refugee camp running around.

The second worst has to be use of the computer “virus” to infect the alien ship computers. This is very unimaginative. I thought the Yodeling in Mars Attacks was very creative, and funny

The very worst part of this movie is the simplistic way the virus was introduced into the mother ship. I can’t get Microsoft Train Simulator to run on my Microsoft Widows XP computer and all they had to do was click a load button!

Other distractions are:

Dust on the moon vibrates the foot prints of man away as the mother ship passes by.
Good looking effect and great symbolism, but stupid.

A cable techie is the only person to find the sequential pattern imbedded in a signal?
SITI is specifically looking for such “intelligent” patterns.

Why do the aliens need to use our satellites to relay a countdown? Surly if they can cross the vast distances of space they would have accurate chronometers!

Why not use the blue beam to shoot down the Air Force attackers? Instead they used fighters themselves?

If the aliens have been studying us (abducting the pilot drunk) why would they not have a more effective way to kill us. It would be like us using a can of hair spray and a match to kill ants in an ant hill.

Initial death ray shoots down the first interstate building in LA, OK.
LA is clearly a huge city, has a localized center and one, clearly tall building, it would be natural to position over it. But, the initial death ray shoots down the Empire State Building in New York, poor. New York is clearly a huge city, Long Island is a localized center, but would not the World Trade Center be a better target for it’s height, or central park as it is the largest shape from the air?

Etc….

In an interview for Star Trek, John D. F. Black, Associate Producer said the primary rule for a science fiction writer is “Never ask your audience to believe more than one extraordinary thing.”

Independence Day has too many extraordinary things for me to believe.
So, I agree with Paul, lock it away.

Re: Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

paul — Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:37:08 GMT

Lock it up and throw away the key. I don't even care where. Worst movie, lackluster, work camp in Siberia. Two hours was 119 minutes more that I should have allowed myself to devote to this movie.

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Kami — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:20:09 GMT

I agree that ID is extremely lackluster.

It was predictable, boring, and really forgettable. Doesn't help that Will Smith gave a typical performance that was on the same scale as his Men in Black roles.

Re: Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

pippin06 — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:03:37 GMT

Ok, again with my two cents. First of all, ID:4 is way better than the Super Troopers or Mars Attacks (despite the latter's quirky premise). Second of all, why is no one considering anything with Pauly Shore (with the possible exception of Encino Man) as worst movie ever? I can think of a few of his that totally push ID:4 down the worst list. Even still, don't impeach or subpoena ID:4. P.S. Impeaching is worse than subpoenaing - with a subpoena, you'd just be calling the film to the stand, whereas impeaching it is accusing it of the crime of being worst movie ever. Not to split hairs, but the day job finds me drowning in the legalese. :-)

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spoutgirl — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:41:36 GMT

No, SuperTroops is the number one worst movie ever. Independence Day is like the number 3 worst movie ever. Mars Attacks is number 2.
Just to clarify.

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MikePerry — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:38:33 GMT

spoutgirl:
Yes, I agree, it is the worst movie evr. I think I made it half way through the first time I watched it, then watched it all the way through the second time and remembered why I shut if off the first time. Impeach it please!

So supertroopers really isnt the worst movie ever?? :)

For those who dont know, spoutgirl thinks supertroopers is one of the all time worst movies. I on the other hand laugh hard every time I see it.

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spoutgirl — Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:09:44 GMT

Yes, I agree, it is the worst movie evr. I think I made it half way through the first time I watched it, then watched it all the way through the second time and remembered why I shut if off the first time. Impeach it please!

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PammyK — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:00:28 GMT

Sorry I agree...this movie is not that bad. It was a little funny, I mean I think I actually laughed...it can't be impeached, its not that bad.

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zuzu — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:44:57 GMT

I think instead of impeachment, this deserves subpoena. I would even almost nominate this one as Worst Movie Ever I hated it so much. To me, it truly was nothing more than one of those summer blockbusters that featured big names and big things falling down. True, the cinematography was impressive at times, but the director assumed that the audience should love the characters without any development; there was no emotional momentum for me. And what was with that scene in the tunnel where the (I think) woman was trying to outrun a bomb explosion? It was so incredibly ridiculous to me that it was one of the (few) most memorable moments in the movie, and it's still foggy.

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pippin06 — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 14:34:52 GMT

I agree! It's pure popcorn fluff, but it's entertaining. I saw this movie a couple of times in the theater because it was awesome to see aliens destroy things and because it was pretty funny - and not only Will Smith and Jeff Goldblum but also Judd Hirsch (as Goldblum's father). It also had heart and some good old fashioned patriotism. I vote not guilty as well.

Independence Day Faces Impeachment For Being Lackluster

davisfreeberg — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 00:25:19 GMT

I was browsing through the Hollywood Lackluster list and someone put Independence Day in as a lackluster. I've seen the film a couple of times and have to vote not guilty on this one. Yes, they sold out to Hollywood for the slick special effects and the top actors, but the movie itself is a non-stop action coaster and the special effects really did turn out great. Add to this Smith's amiable comedy and Goldblum's straight role and I would just feel unpatriotic about putting this one in the Worst Movie Jail.