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      <title>Spout Group:Spout Customer Care - Get answers to your questions here!</title>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> Spout Customer Care - Get answers to your questions here!<br/>
<strong>Group Description:</strong> <p style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; margin: 0px">Have a general question? Need help with some thing on the site? Have a bug you would like to report? Well then, you have come to the right place. No matter what you are having trouble with, we would like to help you find a solution. And maybe, through your own experience with the site, you will want to help other users too. That&#39;s what communities are all about. </p><br/>
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<strong>Group Description:</strong> &nbsp;&nbsp; &quot; I bid you welcome...&nbsp; Enter freely and of your own will...&quot;<br/>
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<strong>Group Description:</strong> <p>A group of Spout&#39;s best reviewers.<br /><a href="http://www.spout.com/groups/366/15126/ShowPost.aspx"><strong>Read the requirements.</strong></a></p><br/>
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<strong>Group Description:</strong> <p>At some point you just want more than what's right in front of you.</p><br/>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> The Documentary - A place to talk about the much overlooked genre of the Documentary.  <br/>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> Sound on Sight - Podcasts, movie reviews, interviews, news and more. <br/>
<strong>Group Description:</strong> <p>Sound on Sight proudly brings you two podcasts each week. Voted best podcast in 2008, these hard working hosts cover everything from mainstream Hollywood films to noir, horror, science fiction, cult cinema, documentary film making and more. Look out for a new show added every Tuesday and Thursday morning.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.soundonsight.org/" target="_blank">http://www.soundonsight.org/</a></p>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> Worst Movie Ever - The Group is dedicated to uncovering the bombs, so you don't have too.<br/>
<strong>Created:</strong> 5/5/2006<br/>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> Movie Polls - Vote in weekly polls and discuss<br/>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> A World of MSTies - Thank You, Won't We?<br/>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> It's a Wonderful Night for Oscar! - Devoted to everything nominated or snubbed by the Academy of Golden Guys<br/>
<strong>Group Description:</strong> Year after year, movie lovers and non movie lovers alike discuss ad nauseum the fate of films nominated for the utmost honor, the Academy Award.  Some people watch it for the fashion.  Some people watch for the haute couture.  Some people watch for their fill of celebrity sightings.

If you are a member of this group, you love everything about the Super Bowl of movies, especially the movies themselves!  You love to make predictions, guess at the politics, discuss and dissect who should have been nominated and who should have won...or, you're just an avid movie lover that likes to pay attention. Come join the group!<br/>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> Movie Marathons<br/>
<strong>Group Description:</strong> <p>This is a group for members to start and organize movie marathons. Its primary purpose is to get more people exposed to more film. And to watch these films and discuss them as a group.</p>
<p>Anyone can start a marathon and marathons can be organized in many different ways to showcase the films of a director, actor, genre, theme etc...</p>
<p>Check the Guidlines and Suggestions discussion for ideas.</p><br/>
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<strong>Group Name:</strong> Movies we do not want to see - Try to convince us to see these movies!<br/>
<strong>Group Description:</strong> Want to be a member? Send me a message with a list of at least 5 movies that you do not want to see.  

There are many movies that I do not want to see.  I'm not sure if its right of me to decide never to see a movie without seeing it.  You know...like when a kid says they hate mushrooms even though they admit never trying them.  So maybe this is a good spot for people to display movies they don't think they want to see, and see if anyone can convince us to try them out. <br/>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Stats are stuck</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Spout_Customer_Care/Re_Stats_are_stuck/420/44455/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/16448/default.aspx'>joem18b</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/groups/Spout_Customer_Care/420/discussions.aspx'>Spout Customer Care</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 12/1/2009 1:12:30 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> i can't seem to edit any review that i've posted. is that me or a known bug?<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:12:30 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Spout Customer Care</spout:postto><spout:postdate>12/1/2009 1:12:30 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>i can't seem to edit any review that i've posted. is that me or a known bug?</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Tillsammans (Together) 2000</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/joem18b/archive/2009/11/29/44445.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/16448/default.aspx'>joem18b</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/blogs/joem18b/default.aspx'>joem18b Blog</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 11/29/2009 9:36:17 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> This is actually a review for Tillsammans,  not the flick shown to the right.
Tillsammans is a well-made sorta-comic sorta-serious feelgood ensemble drama about a communish collective located in a Swedish suburb in 1975. The collective, Tillsammans (Together), includes your couple experimenting with an open relationship in a building with thin walls, your newly-minted lesbian, your gay man, some unhappy kids, a woman taking refuge from her abusive husband, neighbors of antithetical mood looking on, politics, a woman airing out her apparatus due to a fungal infection, a man airing out his apparatus because the woman is airing out hers, so forth. Ironically, these folks become less and less together at first, but then the plot does a volte-face, with togetherness increasing amongst the group now on a deeper level than before, new connections made that everyone in the movie, kid and adult, has been missing, wants, and needs. I cannot vouch for the verisimilitude of the representation of this collective; writer/director Lukas Moodysson was only six in 1975, but perhaps he was present at the scene at that age, now revisiting his memories through his script. Perhaps that's the reason for the movie. Perhaps Moodysson interviewed his parents for insights into the 70s.
I've seen Tillsammans three or four times over the past nine years and it holds up. The characterization is paper thin: all that you need to know about each member of the ensemble is sketched in moments as the soapish plot advances. But given that the dreaded staring-off-into-space motif is so often used these days to signify unknowable depths in a protagonist, who needs characterization?
Several quick points about the movie:
- It was made in Trollh&auml;ttan. Which I thought was located on Discworld or in Middle Earth.
- Trollh&auml;ttan here is standing in for a Stockholm suburb. It also stood in for rural Washington State in "Dancer in the Dark." Moodysson isn't doing dogme here, but the grainy photography, close-ups, and handheld photography remind of Von Trier and Scandinavian guerilla filmmaking, at least until the humor in the film emerges, a minute or two in.
- The writer/director's first film was titled "F**king Amal."
- A line about Baader Meinhof was left out of the subtitles. Conspiracy???
- It's possible that throughout the 50s and 60s, and maybe the early 70s as well, the only Swedish movies I saw were Bergman's. I skipped "I Am Curious Yellow," reports of boredom outweighing my prurient interest. So now, years later, the sound of onscreen Swedish dialog still triggers Pavlovian expectations in me of conversations that plumb the depths of the human puddle of the soul. So maybe I invested the collective members of Tillsammans with more gravitas than they actually had earned during my viewing. I remember going out on a dinner date once with a young woman who had a strong Swedish accent, and it was the weirdest thing. As I sat across from her, I kept dropping into monologs about winter, Olaf Palme's murder, F&aring;r&ouml;, the bare trees with their bare branches, my chilblains, the cold drafts in the empty chapel where I prayed in the face of the stubborn divine silence, after cracking the ice on the water bowl in my bedroom, only to abrade my thighs with a frozen washcloth. And this was at a luau on Kauai, mind.
- I don't recall shopping bags having paper handles yet in the 70s, as depicted in the movie. Also, the VW bus looks like it would look now, not then.
- I've heard it said that Eva, the fourteen-year-old in the movie, is the most adult of all the characters - an opinion that evidently originated with someone who has never lived with a fourteen-year-old girl, and mistakes angst for insight.
- It is not good to hear your partner experiencing her first orgasm when you aren't in the room with her but she isn't alone.
Anyway, a collective is a group the members of which share a common goal. In the case of the Tillsammans collective, the goal is political, or was in some year or other before the action begins. Hence the opening scene of joy at the news of Franco's death. Hence one of the collective's children being named "Tet," after the offensive. Meanwhile, a commune is a group the members of which share a common purpose and join together to be with others who share similar tastes, thoughts, and desires.  Tillsammans, though the point is never made explicitly in the film, seems to be transmogrifying from collective to commune as the movie progresses... or no. Now I'm thinking that Moodysson simply chose the collective setting as a convenient way to stage an ensemble drama, or a soap opera. The commune truths that I personally experienced are barely nodded to in the movie. (Moodysson has gone on to write/direct five more movies, none of which I've seen.)... Or no. Now that I come to think of it, many of the interactions in the movie actually do hinge on the facts of collective life. E.g., reassigning the relaxation/meditation room for use by a non-collective outsider; dealing with the group member who won't do the dishes; solidarity in the face of opposing opinions... But hey! Wait a second. I just realized that this movie, made in 2000, presents the 1975 collective as if the whole concept of collective action, born in the 1960s (actually it's been around since humans were fighting off the tyrannosauruses), has past, so that these guys are, well hell, saps for soldiering on, though Moodysson obviously cares for them (music by Abba) and probably didn't mean for them to seem like saps. No, they aren't saps; it's hard to make a Swede look like a sap; a dolt, maybe, but not a sap.
What's the difference between a soap opera and a legitimate dramatic creation based on solid characterization, anyway? The characters in Tillsammans grow and change in the course of the film; most evince conflicting characteristics within themselves, so forget what I said above about their paper-thinness.  Most of the characters embody opposing ideas within themselves, automatically making them seem more real. And they deal with emotional issues emotionally, but with enough restraint to avoid bathos. There are plenty of characters, though, so a cinematic lick and a promise must often suffice in defining them via the action.
I was 16 when the 60s began and 26 when they ended. At the time, the creation and growth of communes in the U.S. seemed like a natural development in the cultural evolution of human society - a cultural maturation of 50s on-the-road into 60s pulling-off-onto-the-shoulder-and-then-taking-a-hard-left-out-into-the-Upper-Sonoran-wilderness consciousness.I began my part in this by sharing peyote at a hot springs with a lot of other naked sojourners, thence moving on to communal life. I take the subsequent history of the togetherness movement, from the 70s to the present, as a metaphor for my life. My time in the commune began with my participation in a triangle-type relationship, but it turned out that the legs of the triangle were of unequal length. Also, it seemed that we kept slipping into two-against-one mode, and for this reason I reached out within the community to transform the triangle into a square - well, a trapezoid really, because once again I didn't properly address the leg-length issue before acting. This caused the two-against-one dynamic to transmogrify into a three-against-one situation. Then, the fifth leg that we (I) added created, switching metaphors, a healthy hearty four-legged beast with an unhealthy unhappy wagging tail. Neurasthenically wagging, a downhearted drooping wag-twitching tail. Long story short, for every individual in the commune, multiple relationships are possible, but for one or two of the individuals it can be difficult finding a grouping that doesn't leave you shucking the damn corn and shelling the damn peas while your groupmates are noisily making the sign of the multi-sided yam out back in the yurt.
So how could communes and ashrams seem so natural, so normal, so necessary to one generation only to then practically evaporate, leaving hardly a trace in the decades that followed. What, it was only a fad? The ideas wore out? Who's to blame? Reagan? The rise of the NFL? The defeat of Communism? How have the young gone about dropping out and rebelling since then? As per mumblecore? Or by scoring high on their SATs and leaving for college, only to return home after graduation to clear the stuffed animals off the bed and move back in until those darned lagging unemployment indicators turn around again? The communes were wiped out by the materialism of the 80s? They were simply impractical? These experiments in cooperative living - all failures? Reagan did turn off the community-action spigot in the first year of his reign; that didn't help, but it didn't surprise anybody, either. And how come we've got to live through yet another set of stupid wars without even getting a summer of love to go with them? It's an outrage.
I googled for area communes and discovered one listed right across town, out beyond the tank farm. I went over for a visit after reading the commune specs online: one man, one woman, one boy, one girl. If I join, we will share labor, take our meals together, start a garden after breaking up the concrete covering the backyard, and share spiritual searchings and mingle our chakras after the kids fall asleep at night. The man asked me if I had a sledge hammer and wheelbarrow. I said yes. The woman asked me about my seeds.
So if you grow up in a decade, does that make it, and the decades just before it, seem special? Do the 50s and 60s just seem special to me because that's when I was young? Do the 80s and 90s seem unique and distinct to you now, dear reader, if that's when you were young? While to me, the years from 1980 to 2009 are mostly an undifferentiated blur? The young, as the communes died out, abandoned free love, extended group families, and radical democracy in favor of what, the blur? Not in favor of the weblike internets, which took a while to arrive; though I did send my first email in 1981. Whole Foods? Drowning polar bears? Facebook as the new commune? Or, wait, did society just subsume everything that used to make a commune seem unique? By Jupiter, am I sitting here in the middle of it? The Big Commune?
How can there be no hippies but the proverbial "aging" hippies? What currently replaces the hippie urge? I googled "internet commune" with high hopes, dashed. The "Internet Collective" is, ugh, incorporated. Drug use? No, that's so high school. Clothing easiness? Hey, I'm at work as I finally write this and you should see me. Those glimpses of commune life in "Into the Wild," are they just Sean Penn's surmise? Times are supposed to be hard; doesn't that mean that there are plenty of post-college youth out there with nothing to do, not to mention boomers flashing back to their youthful roots, and disaffected x- and y-gen unemployed? Are intentional communities  and  unschooling programs and suchlike anything more than just notions?
And my God, I just realized something else. The greatest literary influence of my youth was "On The Road." I hitchhiked to school every day. I hitchhiked back and forth across the U.S. and Canada multiple times. I hitchhiked up and down Mexico. "Two-Lane Blacktop" resides in my Top 5. But where have all the hitchhikers gone? Not to communes, that's for sure. The only hitchhikers left are the serial killers, and they're just doing it until somebody makes a movie about them after they've been executed. The nation has lost its way.
Why no hitching? Hitchhiking can be an important rite of passage. How many hitchhikers in "Into the Wild"? One. Emil Hirsch. What's getting in the way? Improvements in mass transit? I don't think so. Affordable gasoline? Nope. Rattletraps you can buy for peanuts? They hardly exist anymore outside of Cuba, not like the "iron" you could used to buy. Bicycles? Nope - those helmeted, costumed figures peddling along in the bike lanes are not lapsed thumbers. Freeways? And who is more afraid of whom now, between driver and hitcher? These days, as the hitchhiker climbs into the car or truck that has pulled over and sits idling, with its ominously tinted windows, will that passenger climb out later still in one piece?
An hour later: OK, I called my friend Jane. I've known Jane for ten years and was sort of aware all that time that her living arrangements were somehow out of the ordinary, but I never asked her for details. Turns out that she lives in a house with a name like Glow Lobster Aura or something, owning 1/8 of it and dedicated to a type of community living that involves sharing a variety of things that I for one tend to keep to myself. As I asked her about the current state of collectives, group homes, and communes in the area, she took me on a verbal tour of co-housing and alternative lifestyles locally that amazed me. Turns out that I know more folks involved in non-traditional lifestyles than I would ever have guessed. Dreams endure, though transmuted by time into modern forms. Dreams, but also the reality that living together is not easy, like married life is not easy.
But I digress.
When Moodysson made "F**king Amal," Ingmar Bergman announced that a new master had been born. Tillsammans strengthened Moodysson's reputation. Since then, he's written a TV movie and written and directed five more films. After two additional arthouse flicks, he brought forth a couple of real head-scratchers ("A Hole in My Heart" and "Container"), and most recently, his first English-language effort, the globe-trotting "Mammoth." Tillsammans won various awards, including the Audience Award at the South by Southwest Film Festival. Moodysson is always interesting, but I'd say that at 40, we all hope that his future still ahead of him.
The movie's lesson: let's all move to Sweden, where everyone, no matter how nutty he or she may sometimes seem (refer to my next review for an analysis of Elin Nordegren), is in fact way saner than Americans are, or at least way saner than my gun-toting, tea-bagging, Palin-lovin American neighbors next door. (But I'm only raggin on the G.O.P. because I'm frustrated trying to find a good big solid incorporated Republican commune with a good big solid commune president who would keep us focused not on the weak sisters in our group but on America, love it or leave it, goddamnit, and on the uranium-mining business that our commune would operate, and on the commune's goddamned bottom line.)
Thanks to Zarodinu for the dictate.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:36:17 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>joem18b Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>11/29/2009 9:36:17 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>This is actually a review for Tillsammans,  not the flick shown to the right.
Tillsammans is a well-made sorta-comic sorta-serious feelgood ensemble drama about a communish collective located in a Swedish suburb in 1975. The collective, Tillsammans (Together), includes your couple experimenting with an open relationship in a building with thin walls, your newly-minted lesbian, your gay man, some unhappy kids, a woman taking refuge from her abusive husband, neighbors of antithetical mood looking on, politics, a woman airing out her apparatus due to a fungal infection, a man airing out his apparatus because the woman is airing out hers, so forth. Ironically, these folks become less and less together at first, but then the plot does a volte-face, with togetherness increasing amongst the group now on a deeper level than before, new connections made that everyone in the movie, kid and adult, has been missing, wants, and needs. I cannot vouch for the verisimilitude of the representation of this collective; writer/director Lukas Moodysson was only six in 1975, but perhaps he was present at the scene at that age, now revisiting his memories through his script. Perhaps that's the reason for the movie. Perhaps Moodysson interviewed his parents for insights into the 70s.
I've seen Tillsammans three or four times over the past nine years and it holds up. The characterization is paper thin: all that you need to know about each member of the ensemble is sketched in moments as the soapish plot advances. But given that the dreaded staring-off-into-space motif is so often used these days to signify unknowable depths in a protagonist, who needs characterization?
Several quick points about the movie:
- It was made in Trollh&amp;auml;ttan. Which I thought was located on Discworld or in Middle Earth.
- Trollh&amp;auml;ttan here is standing in for a Stockholm suburb. It also stood in for rural Washington State in "Dancer in the Dark." Moodysson isn't doing dogme here, but the grainy photography, close-ups, and handheld photography remind of Von Trier and Scandinavian guerilla filmmaking, at least until the humor in the film emerges, a minute or two in.
- The writer/director's first film was titled "F**king Amal."
- A line about Baader Meinhof was left out of the subtitles. Conspiracy???
- It's possible that throughout the 50s and 60s, and maybe the early 70s as well, the only Swedish movies I saw were Bergman's. I skipped "I Am Curious Yellow," reports of boredom outweighing my prurient interest. So now, years later, the sound of onscreen Swedish dialog still triggers Pavlovian expectations in me of conversations that plumb the depths of the human puddle of the soul. So maybe I invested the collective members of Tillsammans with more gravitas than they actually had earned during my viewing. I remember going out on a dinner date once with a young woman who had a strong Swedish accent, and it was the weirdest thing. As I sat across from her, I kept dropping into monologs about winter, Olaf Palme's murder, F&amp;aring;r&amp;ouml;, the bare trees with their bare branches, my chilblains, the cold drafts in the empty chapel where I prayed in the face of the stubborn divine silence, after cracking the ice on the water bowl in my bedroom, only to abrade my thighs with a frozen washcloth. And this was at a luau on Kauai, mind.
- I don't recall shopping bags having paper handles yet in the 70s, as depicted in the movie. Also, the VW bus looks like it would look now, not then.
- I've heard it said that Eva, the fourteen-year-old in the movie, is the most adult of all the characters - an opinion that evidently originated with someone who has never lived with a fourteen-year-old girl, and mistakes angst for insight.
- It is not good to hear your partner experiencing her first orgasm when you aren't in the room with her but she isn't alone.
Anyway, a collective is a group the members of which share a common goal. In the case of the Tillsammans collective, the goal is political, or was in some year or other before the action begins. Hence the opening scene of joy at the news of Franco's death. Hence one of the collective's children being named "Tet," after the offensive. Meanwhile, a commune is a group the members of which share a common purpose and join together to be with others who share similar tastes, thoughts, and desires.  Tillsammans, though the point is never made explicitly in the film, seems to be transmogrifying from collective to commune as the movie progresses... or no. Now I'm thinking that Moodysson simply chose the collective setting as a convenient way to stage an ensemble drama, or a soap opera. The commune truths that I personally experienced are barely nodded to in the movie. (Moodysson has gone on to write/direct five more movies, none of which I've seen.)... Or no. Now that I come to think of it, many of the interactions in the movie actually do hinge on the facts of collective life. E.g., reassigning the relaxation/meditation room for use by a non-collective outsider; dealing with the group member who won't do the dishes; solidarity in the face of opposing opinions... But hey! Wait a second. I just realized that this movie, made in 2000, presents the 1975 collective as if the whole concept of collective action, born in the 1960s (actually it's been around since humans were fighting off the tyrannosauruses), has past, so that these guys are, well hell, saps for soldiering on, though Moodysson obviously cares for them (music by Abba) and probably didn't mean for them to seem like saps. No, they aren't saps; it's hard to make a Swede look like a sap; a dolt, maybe, but not a sap.
What's the difference between a soap opera and a legitimate dramatic creation based on solid characterization, anyway? The characters in Tillsammans grow and change in the course of the film; most evince conflicting characteristics within themselves, so forget what I said above about their paper-thinness.  Most of the characters embody opposing ideas within themselves, automatically making them seem more real. And they deal with emotional issues emotionally, but with enough restraint to avoid bathos. There are plenty of characters, though, so a cinematic lick and a promise must often suffice in defining them via the action.
I was 16 when the 60s began and 26 when they ended. At the time, the creation and growth of communes in the U.S. seemed like a natural development in the cultural evolution of human society - a cultural maturation of 50s on-the-road into 60s pulling-off-onto-the-shoulder-and-then-taking-a-hard-left-out-into-the-Upper-Sonoran-wilderness consciousness.I began my part in this by sharing peyote at a hot springs with a lot of other naked sojourners, thence moving on to communal life. I take the subsequent history of the togetherness movement, from the 70s to the present, as a metaphor for my life. My time in the commune began with my participation in a triangle-type relationship, but it turned out that the legs of the triangle were of unequal length. Also, it seemed that we kept slipping into two-against-one mode, and for this reason I reached out within the community to transform the triangle into a square - well, a trapezoid really, because once again I didn't properly address the leg-length issue before acting. This caused the two-against-one dynamic to transmogrify into a three-against-one situation. Then, the fifth leg that we (I) added created, switching metaphors, a healthy hearty four-legged beast with an unhealthy unhappy wagging tail. Neurasthenically wagging, a downhearted drooping wag-twitching tail. Long story short, for every individual in the commune, multiple relationships are possible, but for one or two of the individuals it can be difficult finding a grouping that doesn't leave you shucking the damn corn and shelling the damn peas while your groupmates are noisily making the sign of the multi-sided yam out back in the yurt.
So how could communes and ashrams seem so natural, so normal, so necessary to one generation only to then practically evaporate, leaving hardly a trace in the decades that followed. What, it was only a fad? The ideas wore out? Who's to blame? Reagan? The rise of the NFL? The defeat of Communism? How have the young gone about dropping out and rebelling since then? As per mumblecore? Or by scoring high on their SATs and leaving for college, only to return home after graduation to clear the stuffed animals off the bed and move back in until those darned lagging unemployment indicators turn around again? The communes were wiped out by the materialism of the 80s? They were simply impractical? These experiments in cooperative living - all failures? Reagan did turn off the community-action spigot in the first year of his reign; that didn't help, but it didn't surprise anybody, either. And how come we've got to live through yet another set of stupid wars without even getting a summer of love to go with them? It's an outrage.
I googled for area communes and discovered one listed right across town, out beyond the tank farm. I went over for a visit after reading the commune specs online: one man, one woman, one boy, one girl. If I join, we will share labor, take our meals together, start a garden after breaking up the concrete covering the backyard, and share spiritual searchings and mingle our chakras after the kids fall asleep at night. The man asked me if I had a sledge hammer and wheelbarrow. I said yes. The woman asked me about my seeds.
So if you grow up in a decade, does that make it, and the decades just before it, seem special? Do the 50s and 60s just seem special to me because that's when I was young? Do the 80s and 90s seem unique and distinct to you now, dear reader, if that's when you were young? While to me, the years from 1980 to 2009 are mostly an undifferentiated blur? The young, as the communes died out, abandoned free love, extended group families, and radical democracy in favor of what, the blur? Not in favor of the weblike internets, which took a while to arrive; though I did send my first email in 1981. Whole Foods? Drowning polar bears? Facebook as the new commune? Or, wait, did society just subsume everything that used to make a commune seem unique? By Jupiter, am I sitting here in the middle of it? The Big Commune?
How can there be no hippies but the proverbial "aging" hippies? What currently replaces the hippie urge? I googled "internet commune" with high hopes, dashed. The "Internet Collective" is, ugh, incorporated. Drug use? No, that's so high school. Clothing easiness? Hey, I'm at work as I finally write this and you should see me. Those glimpses of commune life in "Into the Wild," are they just Sean Penn's surmise? Times are supposed to be hard; doesn't that mean that there are plenty of post-college youth out there with nothing to do, not to mention boomers flashing back to their youthful roots, and disaffected x- and y-gen unemployed? Are intentional communities  and  unschooling programs and suchlike anything more than just notions?
And my God, I just realized something else. The greatest literary influence of my youth was "On The Road." I hitchhiked to school every day. I hitchhiked back and forth across the U.S. and Canada multiple times. I hitchhiked up and down Mexico. "Two-Lane Blacktop" resides in my Top 5. But where have all the hitchhikers gone? Not to communes, that's for sure. The only hitchhikers left are the serial killers, and they're just doing it until somebody makes a movie about them after they've been executed. The nation has lost its way.
Why no hitching? Hitchhiking can be an important rite of passage. How many hitchhikers in "Into the Wild"? One. Emil Hirsch. What's getting in the way? Improvements in mass transit? I don't think so. Affordable gasoline? Nope. Rattletraps you can buy for peanuts? They hardly exist anymore outside of Cuba, not like the "iron" you could used to buy. Bicycles? Nope - those helmeted, costumed figures peddling along in the bike lanes are not lapsed thumbers. Freeways? And who is more afraid of whom now, between driver and hitcher? These days, as the hitchhiker climbs into the car or truck that has pulled over and sits idling, with its ominously tinted windows, will that passenger climb out later still in one piece?
An hour later: OK, I called my friend Jane. I've known Jane for ten years and was sort of aware all that time that her living arrangements were somehow out of the ordinary, but I never asked her for details. Turns out that she lives in a house with a name like Glow Lobster Aura or something, owning 1/8 of it and dedicated to a type of community living that involves sharing a variety of things that I for one tend to keep to myself. As I asked her about the current state of collectives, group homes, and communes in the area, she took me on a verbal tour of co-housing and alternative lifestyles locally that amazed me. Turns out that I know more folks involved in non-traditional lifestyles than I would ever have guessed. Dreams endure, though transmuted by time into modern forms. Dreams, but also the reality that living together is not easy, like married life is not easy.
But I digress.
When Moodysson made "F**king Amal," Ingmar Bergman announced that a new master had been born. Tillsammans strengthened Moodysson's reputation. Since then, he's written a TV movie and written and directed five more films. After two additional arthouse flicks, he brought forth a couple of real head-scratchers ("A Hole in My Heart" and "Container"), and most recently, his first English-language effort, the globe-trotting "Mammoth." Tillsammans won various awards, including the Audience Award at the South by Southwest Film Festival. Moodysson is always interesting, but I'd say that at 40, we all hope that his future still ahead of him.
The movie's lesson: let's all move to Sweden, where everyone, no matter how nutty he or she may sometimes seem (refer to my next review for an analysis of Elin Nordegren), is in fact way saner than Americans are, or at least way saner than my gun-toting, tea-bagging, Palin-lovin American neighbors next door. (But I'm only raggin on the G.O.P. because I'm frustrated trying to find a good big solid incorporated Republican commune with a good big solid commune president who would keep us focused not on the weak sisters in our group but on America, love it or leave it, goddamnit, and on the uranium-mining business that our commune would operate, and on the commune's goddamned bottom line.)
Thanks to Zarodinu for the dictate.</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Weekly Theme for October 26: Famous Last Words</title>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 11/10/2009 2:05:44 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> first one i think of is brando in apocalypse now: "the horror... the horror..."<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:05:44 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Weekly Theme</spout:postto><spout:postdate>11/10/2009 2:05:44 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>first one i think of is brando in apocalypse now: "the horror... the horror..."</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:E-@thletes</title>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 11/10/2009 1:58:00 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> Make big $$$ playing games.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:58:00 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Spout Mavens</spout:postto><spout:postdate>11/10/2009 1:58:00 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Make big $$$ playing games.</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Win big $$$ playing games</title>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 11/10/2009 1:53:56 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> Jonathon Boal and Artem Agafanov made the documentary E@thletes at a time when competitive team-gaming seemed ready to expand into a new world of professional competition. The film presented, at the time they released it, a cutting-edge view of two teams out on the road, just before both teams joined a new league. By the time I watched the movie, league play was already into its second season and the film had become, for me, a how-it-all-happened tale. By the time I began writing this review, the league was out of business and team gaming had returned to the state it occupied before Boal and Agafanov began their documentary. And now, much later than that, in the midst of an economic slump, I have no idea how electronic gaming, competitive or otherwise, is faring. Holy cow. Will anyone ever see the movie? Will anyone ever read this review? If I fall over in the woods, will anyone ever hear me go?Whatever. Video-game revenue outstripped cinema ticket sales long ago, and then passed DVD rental sales. Companies spend millions developing new games, betting that one hit will pay for all their flops and make a profit for the company. Innovation is somewhat restricted these days by corporate rules, but it creeps in once and a while anyway. Amateur developers can now create new games using free tools, and deploy them to consoles and handhelds, not just desktops. Prize-winning opportunities for kids playing video games began to increase as gaming revenues increased. Even with the huge dip in revenue during the 08/09 recession, year-to-date totals at the end of July, '09, stood at $8.16 billion. A huge, young demographic with plastic in its back pocket is whiling away the Generation Y hours in cyberspace, guns and other weapons in its paws.e-@thletes highlights one consequence of the sloshing about of gaming dollars back in 2006 - the growth in pro gaming. The film follows two teams of young men paid to hit the road and compete at tournaments offering cash prizes to the winners. Ever been on one of those 5-day, 32-country tours? The movie includes a team tour of China with a film montage of, say, 10 cities in 100 seconds. (More than 100 Chinese cities have a population greater than one million, by the way. America has 9. The 100th largest city in the U.S. is Boise. Lot of folks living in China.) And speaking of seconds, the filmmakers shot something like 20 hours of film at a tournament and cut it down to less than 60 seconds for an opening clip in the movie. The filmmakers were in their early twenties when they made the movie; Boal began it as a final film-school project. Micro budget: some money from Intel for services rendered; travel and motel costs picked up by one of the teams; some money from dad. In seventy zippy yet professional minutes, the film interleaves interviews with the members of two Counter-Strike teams, their parents, scenes of team travel, competitive gaming action, and the obligatory talking heads - six of them.Counter-Strike is a first-person shooter video game that pits a team of counter-terrorists against a team of terrorists in a series of rounds. Each round is won by either completing the mission objective or eliminating the opposing force. First-person shooter (FPS) games are a genre featuring weapons-based combat viewed as if seen through the eyes of the player." That is, on one level, E-@thletes is a frag movie that features shooting, bombing, and killing. We don't see enough of it to get excited, however.e-Athlete: Someone who enjoys computer games (too much). Often possesses a grandiose sense of self. "I don't get out much. I pwn noobs on the net because I'm an e-athlete."The two teams: Team 3D, the well-funded top-dogs, and CompLexity, a diverse bunch gamers brought together by a lawyer with a gaming vision and some personal money to invest in the future of the sport. A climatic match between the two teams awaits us at the end of the film. When the filmmakers chose these two teams to follow, they chose well. The movie has a nice arc, with a beginning, a middle, and an end. The Intel-sponsered Team 3D was the first professional Counter-Strike team outside of Europe and Asia. 3D's motto: "Desire. Discipline. Dedication. Intel." A 3D team manager keeps the boys in line as they squabble and mostly beat other teams. Squabbling teammates are always of interest in sports, but hard to get on tape in a documentary, including this one. At one point, a team captain is deposed and replaced, but nobody dishes for us onscreen. I was reminded of the 70s documentary An American Family, wherein we follow the Loud family for hours and hours and then, in a hard-to-hear couple of minutes in a restaurant near the end, the mom and dad suddenly agree to get divorced, and I'm like, What? Where did that come from? But no tape to rewind in those days.You can find E-@thletes on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and its own site but it isn't mentioned in IMDB. Boal told me that when the movie was finally finished and ready for release (post-production took a year), he and Agafanov decided to focus their distribution efforts on the gamer community and its various websites. I'm guessing that, based on the google hits for the movie, as befits a gamer flick, most viewers downloaded it via one torrent or another. When Boal and Agafanov submitted it to IMDB, it wasn't accepted because of its limited distribution, but the film added the Philadelphia Independent Film Festival to its resume after that and if the makers ever take the trouble to resubmit, it'll probably get listed.As I mentioned above, even though, at this point, the movie is way past being stop-the-presses current, it's structured with a narrative that suggests we're getting the current poop - perhaps an error in the director/editor's emphasis when applied to such a a fast-evolving environment. To wit: the two teams are introduced as the best, the cream of the crop, the only two sponsered teams in a world of gamers. We are told that it's becoming possible to earn a living playing video games. As the movie comes to an end in 2007, a gaming league is created and we watch a draft of gamers at the Playboy Mansion to populate it. The league, The Championship Gaming Series, was owned and operated by DirecTV. This was an international electronic-sports league based in the U.S. and then "expanded to every continent except Antarctica for Season Two." The league expired suddenly after two seasons. compLexity went away, came back with different players, drama ensued, the founder retired, all ancient history now. At the end of the movie, the founder of compLexity is quoted as saying that if the league fails, there won't be another to follow it. I'm no expert on gaming, but I think that various leagues did follow the failed CGS, but they're all gone, too, now, I think, except for Major League Gaming. Gamers making six figures have come and gone... though by the time  you read this, who knows? With gaming generating billions, somebody is still getting rich, I presume. My mom's lifelong best friend was Nolan Bushnell's mom (Nolan created Pong, the first video game, and Atari, and Chuck E. Cheese, and something else after that, and lives about two billion dollars up the hill from me here). As girls, his mom and my mom grew up on adjacent farms. Shouldn't that be worth a few million to me, Nolan's mom's best friend's kid? Even just a lousy million? But no. Nothing has rubbed off on me but a plate of potato salad that his mom insisted I eat the last time I saw her in Utah. Tasty!Anyway, my only negative about this well-made film: the documentary is structured, on one level, as a genre sports film. The established corporate team of winners, touring the world, idolized, pulling down the $$$, is challenged by the upstart misfits, who come together and begun to win. As is traditional in this type of movie, the rivalry is hyped throughout and brought to a climax with a major showdown at the end of the film, just at the dawn of the new era of league sports. Then, unaccountably, as the two teams engage in their final struggle, instead of descriptions of the match with on-screen illustrations, the docu's talking heads pipe up and tell us... well, I have no idea what they were telling us because I was trying to watch the frigging match! (I consider this not a spoiler, but a warning of impending disappointment), which was 1-0 and then, all of a sudden, 9-5 (a match can take hours) and then, oops, it's over. This is a climax? But I took consolation in the fact that the extras disk had a feature on this final match. When I watched it, however, it consisted of shots of all the players sitting at their keyboards, no shots of the screen action, what they were seeing, what they were doing, how the match was progressing. No final-game narrative.None of the detail and tension experienced while watching the Dynamo and Itkakuskaya National Chess teams battle it out over 20 boards in Oblasteskva Stadium.Five talking heads appear rhythmically throughout the movie, explaining, as experts, that... well, I can't remember what they explained. Something about kids and video games? Are video games still called video games? 137,000,000 Google hits. Electronic games = 74,500,000 hits. I wonder what single search term in all of English garners the greatest number of Google hits, and how many hits that is? What's the hit limit, if any, for Google? More than one trillion pages are registered. Anyway, the talking heads comprise authors and the editor of GotFrag Magazine (http://www.gotfrag.com/portal/story/36956/  Don't believe anything I say about gaming; read GotFrag instead), all the heads serious onscreen but none dour. Serious because they've got books for sale on the subject; not dour because, after all, the subject is video gaming. I have not read any of their books, though I did trouble myself to price them all on Amazon ("Smartbomb," "Gameboys," "Got Game," "Everyting Bad is Good For You"), and could have had the lot, used, for a mere $16.76 plus shipping. I subscribe to "To The Point," "Left, Right, and Center," "Planet Money," and sundry other talking-head podcasts, and listen to them daily. From this I infer that I like talking heads. So why can't I remember word one of the offerings of this E-@thlete bunch (Aaron Ruby, Mike Kane, John Beck, Steven Johnson, and Heather Chaplin)? Hmm. I haven't read any of the books written by the talking heads I listen to every day, either. Or remember in particular what they've said. In fact, I'm reminded of what happens when I am made to sit through a sermon in church. I understand the words that I'm hearing, assuming that the sermon is spoken in my native tongue. I understand the concepts. The meaning of the sermon as a whole, however, the import, usually eludes me; or perhaps I elude it. Sermons. They're meaningless to me. I don't forget what I've heard; in some sense or other I just don't hear anything in the first place. A sermon is something that comes between the songs - often occuring annoyingly at the same time as a ballgame on TV. From this I gather that talking heads must be talking to or arguing with each other, as in the podcasts that I listen to, for me to hear and understand and remember what they are saying. I will listen to and ponder the pronouncements of conversing talking heads, but not to a lone talking head talking at me. I might also still be annoyed at Sun Dogs for using a legitimate people's activist talking head in an infomercial designed to further enrich the rich at the expense of a couple of poor dogs. I was in a documentary once, by the way. Up on the big screen. High on a rock wall, free climbing, facing death, sweat running off my back, muscles on the verge of failure, blue sky above and thin air below! I checked out the audience during a screening and spotted a few mouths hanging open. Wow! And then, wtf, the rock wall, with me on it, was suddenly replaced by my parents' kitchen with my mom standing in front of a sink full of dishes, brow knit and her going on about how I was raised to be responsible and how much I meant to the family and what was I doing taking my life in my hands when I should have been out in the shantytowns going door-to-door proselytizing and converting the inhabitants of Burkina Vaso (formerly Upper Volta) instead of traumatizing her and my dad and my sister by climbing without a rope, without, well, without a net, after all that she and my dad had done for me. Then my dad, down in the rumpus room behind the bar, just shaking his head, doleful, pointing to my trophy from the debating-society championships, pointing to the family Bible signed by Billy Graham himself, dad taking a drink from his highball glass and clinking the cubes. So the parents that appear in E-@thletes? They support their kids; but conflict being the essence of drama, this means - no drama. One dad, a Canadian documentary maker himself, does intone "Some nights when Griffin didn't come home at all, I'd go looking for him, usually ending up downtown in his favorite video game place. In these, the opium dens of the 21st century, an elctronic hook deep in the brain of harmless killing..." Spoken like a true parent! Let's keep in mind that these young adults are sitting in front of a screen for, say, five hours a day, clicking a keyboard with their left hand and moving and clicking a mouse with their right in order to win a kill-or-be-killed video game. Where's (where're?) the sunlight and fresh air? Where's the vitamin D and exercise? Where's the organic Vegan cooking instead of pizza? The good news: the rooms aren't smoke-filled. Steroids don't enhance performance. Or, wait a minute, what about drugs? Are these young men (no sign of a female gamer from start to finish) all jacked on some pill I've never heard of? That kid who chewed a hole through the linoleum floor when he lost - was that drug-induced behavior? We don't know.If you enjoy shooter games and, watching these young competitors, feel a sudden urge to spend some time sharpening your skills with a view toward winning a little prize money, permit me to remind you that even if you don't currently play tennis, for example, if you're in reasonable shape you can go buy a racquet, take a few lessons and shortly become the best tennis player on your block. Dedicate your life to the game and you might, in time, become the best player in your town, if your town isn't too large and you're not already too old. But that's about it. You can eat, sleep, live, dream, and pray about tennis 24x7, juice up, study with John McEnroe, bribe the line judges, and still, somewhere in your county, nevermind your state, you will encounter a 13-year-old of either sex who will clean your clock. That is in the nature of the human body, the psyche, and sporting competition. So is it also with e-gaming.End note: The movie does not deal with cheating, a fact of gaming competition that could command a documentary of its own.
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</div>]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:53:56 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>joem18b Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>11/10/2009 1:53:56 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Jonathon Boal and Artem Agafanov made the documentary E@thletes at a time when competitive team-gaming seemed ready to expand into a new world of professional competition. The film presented, at the time they released it, a cutting-edge view of two teams out on the road, just before both teams joined a new league. By the time I watched the movie, league play was already into its second season and the film had become, for me, a how-it-all-happened tale. By the time I began writing this review, the league was out of business and team gaming had returned to the state it occupied before Boal and Agafanov began their documentary. And now, much later than that, in the midst of an economic slump, I have no idea how electronic gaming, competitive or otherwise, is faring. Holy cow. Will anyone ever see the movie? Will anyone ever read this review? If I fall over in the woods, will anyone ever hear me go?Whatever. Video-game revenue outstripped cinema ticket sales long ago, and then passed DVD rental sales. Companies spend millions developing new games, betting that one hit will pay for all their flops and make a profit for the company. Innovation is somewhat restricted these days by corporate rules, but it creeps in once and a while anyway. Amateur developers can now create new games using free tools, and deploy them to consoles and handhelds, not just desktops. Prize-winning opportunities for kids playing video games began to increase as gaming revenues increased. Even with the huge dip in revenue during the 08/09 recession, year-to-date totals at the end of July, '09, stood at $8.16 billion. A huge, young demographic with plastic in its back pocket is whiling away the Generation Y hours in cyberspace, guns and other weapons in its paws.e-@thletes highlights one consequence of the sloshing about of gaming dollars back in 2006 - the growth in pro gaming. The film follows two teams of young men paid to hit the road and compete at tournaments offering cash prizes to the winners. Ever been on one of those 5-day, 32-country tours? The movie includes a team tour of China with a film montage of, say, 10 cities in 100 seconds. (More than 100 Chinese cities have a population greater than one million, by the way. America has 9. The 100th largest city in the U.S. is Boise. Lot of folks living in China.) And speaking of seconds, the filmmakers shot something like 20 hours of film at a tournament and cut it down to less than 60 seconds for an opening clip in the movie. The filmmakers were in their early twenties when they made the movie; Boal began it as a final film-school project. Micro budget: some money from Intel for services rendered; travel and motel costs picked up by one of the teams; some money from dad. In seventy zippy yet professional minutes, the film interleaves interviews with the members of two Counter-Strike teams, their parents, scenes of team travel, competitive gaming action, and the obligatory talking heads - six of them.Counter-Strike is a first-person shooter video game that pits a team of counter-terrorists against a team of terrorists in a series of rounds. Each round is won by either completing the mission objective or eliminating the opposing force. First-person shooter (FPS) games are a genre featuring weapons-based combat viewed as if seen through the eyes of the player." That is, on one level, E-@thletes is a frag movie that features shooting, bombing, and killing. We don't see enough of it to get excited, however.e-Athlete: Someone who enjoys computer games (too much). Often possesses a grandiose sense of self. "I don't get out much. I pwn noobs on the net because I'm an e-athlete."The two teams: Team 3D, the well-funded top-dogs, and CompLexity, a diverse bunch gamers brought together by a lawyer with a gaming vision and some personal money to invest in the future of the sport. A climatic match between the two teams awaits us at the end of the film. When the filmmakers chose these two teams to follow, they chose well. The movie has a nice arc, with a beginning, a middle, and an end. The Intel-sponsered Team 3D was the first professional Counter-Strike team outside of Europe and Asia. 3D's motto: "Desire. Discipline. Dedication. Intel." A 3D team manager keeps the boys in line as they squabble and mostly beat other teams. Squabbling teammates are always of interest in sports, but hard to get on tape in a documentary, including this one. At one point, a team captain is deposed and replaced, but nobody dishes for us onscreen. I was reminded of the 70s documentary An American Family, wherein we follow the Loud family for hours and hours and then, in a hard-to-hear couple of minutes in a restaurant near the end, the mom and dad suddenly agree to get divorced, and I'm like, What? Where did that come from? But no tape to rewind in those days.You can find E-@thletes on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and its own site but it isn't mentioned in IMDB. Boal told me that when the movie was finally finished and ready for release (post-production took a year), he and Agafanov decided to focus their distribution efforts on the gamer community and its various websites. I'm guessing that, based on the google hits for the movie, as befits a gamer flick, most viewers downloaded it via one torrent or another. When Boal and Agafanov submitted it to IMDB, it wasn't accepted because of its limited distribution, but the film added the Philadelphia Independent Film Festival to its resume after that and if the makers ever take the trouble to resubmit, it'll probably get listed.As I mentioned above, even though, at this point, the movie is way past being stop-the-presses current, it's structured with a narrative that suggests we're getting the current poop - perhaps an error in the director/editor's emphasis when applied to such a a fast-evolving environment. To wit: the two teams are introduced as the best, the cream of the crop, the only two sponsered teams in a world of gamers. We are told that it's becoming possible to earn a living playing video games. As the movie comes to an end in 2007, a gaming league is created and we watch a draft of gamers at the Playboy Mansion to populate it. The league, The Championship Gaming Series, was owned and operated by DirecTV. This was an international electronic-sports league based in the U.S. and then "expanded to every continent except Antarctica for Season Two." The league expired suddenly after two seasons. compLexity went away, came back with different players, drama ensued, the founder retired, all ancient history now. At the end of the movie, the founder of compLexity is quoted as saying that if the league fails, there won't be another to follow it. I'm no expert on gaming, but I think that various leagues did follow the failed CGS, but they're all gone, too, now, I think, except for Major League Gaming. Gamers making six figures have come and gone... though by the time  you read this, who knows? With gaming generating billions, somebody is still getting rich, I presume. My mom's lifelong best friend was Nolan Bushnell's mom (Nolan created Pong, the first video game, and Atari, and Chuck E. Cheese, and something else after that, and lives about two billion dollars up the hill from me here). As girls, his mom and my mom grew up on adjacent farms. Shouldn't that be worth a few million to me, Nolan's mom's best friend's kid? Even just a lousy million? But no. Nothing has rubbed off on me but a plate of potato salad that his mom insisted I eat the last time I saw her in Utah. Tasty!Anyway, my only negative about this well-made film: the documentary is structured, on one level, as a genre sports film. The established corporate team of winners, touring the world, idolized, pulling down the $$$, is challenged by the upstart misfits, who come together and begun to win. As is traditional in this type of movie, the rivalry is hyped throughout and brought to a climax with a major showdown at the end of the film, just at the dawn of the new era of league sports. Then, unaccountably, as the two teams engage in their final struggle, instead of descriptions of the match with on-screen illustrations, the docu's talking heads pipe up and tell us... well, I have no idea what they were telling us because I was trying to watch the frigging match! (I consider this not a spoiler, but a warning of impending disappointment), which was 1-0 and then, all of a sudden, 9-5 (a match can take hours) and then, oops, it's over. This is a climax? But I took consolation in the fact that the extras disk had a feature on this final match. When I watched it, however, it consisted of shots of all the players sitting at their keyboards, no shots of the screen action, what they were seeing, what they were doing, how the match was progressing. No final-game narrative.None of the detail and tension experienced while watching the Dynamo and Itkakuskaya National Chess teams battle it out over 20 boards in Oblasteskva Stadium.Five talking heads appear rhythmically throughout the movie, explaining, as experts, that... well, I can't remember what they explained. Something about kids and video games? Are video games still called video games? 137,000,000 Google hits. Electronic games = 74,500,000 hits. I wonder what single search term in all of English garners the greatest number of Google hits, and how many hits that is? What's the hit limit, if any, for Google? More than one trillion pages are registered. Anyway, the talking heads comprise authors and the editor of GotFrag Magazine (http://www.gotfrag.com/portal/story/36956/  Don't believe anything I say about gaming; read GotFrag instead), all the heads serious onscreen but none dour. Serious because they've got books for sale on the subject; not dour because, after all, the subject is video gaming. I have not read any of their books, though I did trouble myself to price them all on Amazon ("Smartbomb," "Gameboys," "Got Game," "Everyting Bad is Good For You"), and could have had the lot, used, for a mere $16.76 plus shipping. I subscribe to "To The Point," "Left, Right, and Center," "Planet Money," and sundry other talking-head podcasts, and listen to them daily. From this I infer that I like talking heads. So why can't I remember word one of the offerings of this E-@thlete bunch (Aaron Ruby, Mike Kane, John Beck, Steven Johnson, and Heather Chaplin)? Hmm. I haven't read any of the books written by the talking heads I listen to every day, either. Or remember in particular what they've said. In fact, I'm reminded of what happens when I am made to sit through a sermon in church. I understand the words that I'm hearing, assuming that the sermon is spoken in my native tongue. I understand the concepts. The meaning of the sermon as a whole, however, the import, usually eludes me; or perhaps I elude it. Sermons. They're meaningless to me. I don't forget what I've heard; in some sense or other I just don't hear anything in the first place. A sermon is something that comes between the songs - often occuring annoyingly at the same time as a ballgame on TV. From this I gather that talking heads must be talking to or arguing with each other, as in the podcasts that I listen to, for me to hear and understand and remember what they are saying. I will listen to and ponder the pronouncements of conversing talking heads, but not to a lone talking head talking at me. I might also still be annoyed at Sun Dogs for using a legitimate people's activist talking head in an infomercial designed to further enrich the rich at the expense of a couple of poor dogs. I was in a documentary once, by the way. Up on the big screen. High on a rock wall, free climbing, facing death, sweat running off my back, muscles on the verge of failure, blue sky above and thin air below! I checked out the audience during a screening and spotted a few mouths hanging open. Wow! And then, wtf, the rock wall, with me on it, was suddenly replaced by my parents' kitchen with my mom standing in front of a sink full of dishes, brow knit and her going on about how I was raised to be responsible and how much I meant to the family and what was I doing taking my life in my hands when I should have been out in the shantytowns going door-to-door proselytizing and converting the inhabitants of Burkina Vaso (formerly Upper Volta) instead of traumatizing her and my dad and my sister by climbing without a rope, without, well, without a net, after all that she and my dad had done for me. Then my dad, down in the rumpus room behind the bar, just shaking his head, doleful, pointing to my trophy from the debating-society championships, pointing to the family Bible signed by Billy Graham himself, dad taking a drink from his highball glass and clinking the cubes. So the parents that appear in E-@thletes? They support their kids; but conflict being the essence of drama, this means - no drama. One dad, a Canadian documentary maker himself, does intone "Some nights when Griffin didn't come home at all, I'd go looking for him, usually ending up downtown in his favorite video game place. In these, the opium dens of the 21st century, an elctronic hook deep in the brain of harmless killing..." Spoken like a true parent! Let's keep in mind that these young adults are sitting in front of a screen for, say, five hours a day, clicking a keyboard with their left hand and moving and clicking a mouse with their right in order to win a kill-or-be-killed video game. Where's (where're?) the sunlight and fresh air? Where's the vitamin D and exercise? Where's the organic Vegan cooking instead of pizza? The good news: the rooms aren't smoke-filled. Steroids don't enhance performance. Or, wait a minute, what about drugs? Are these young men (no sign of a female gamer from start to finish) all jacked on some pill I've never heard of? That kid who chewed a hole through the linoleum floor when he lost - was that drug-induced behavior? We don't know.If you enjoy shooter games and, watching these young competitors, feel a sudden urge to spend some time sharpening your skills with a view toward winning a little prize money, permit me to remind you that even if you don't currently play tennis, for example, if you're in reasonable shape you can go buy a racquet, take a few lessons and shortly become the best tennis player on your block. Dedicate your life to the game and you might, in time, become the best player in your town, if your town isn't too large and you're not already too old. But that's about it. You can eat, sleep, live, dream, and pray about tennis 24x7, juice up, study with John McEnroe, bribe the line judges, and still, somewhere in your county, nevermind your state, you will encounter a 13-year-old of either sex who will clean your clock. That is in the nature of the human body, the psyche, and sporting competition. So is it also with e-gaming.End note: The movie does not deal with cheating, a fact of gaming competition that could command a documentary of its own.
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<strong>Body:</strong> Viewed Watching the Detectives the other night - a light romantic comedy starring Cillian Murphy and Lucy Liu. Cillian is 33 but in the movie he's playing a younger guy, or so it seemed to me. He has a baby face, so that works ok. Back in the days of Dobie Gillis, Dwayne Hickman and Bob Denver were in their late 20s playing high-school students; Dustin Hoffman was 30 when The Graduate was released. Lucy Liu, on the other hand, is 41. She can pass for younger and she's playing a Murphy contemporary in the movie, and I'd watch her in anything anyway cause I've got a little Lucy Liu jones going, but having said that, it cannot be denied that life is beginning to leave a few signs of road wear on the Liu corpus. The camera is good to her, but, oops, a quick shot of her hands... The hands go first. I read somewhere that the hands go last, but not so. Also a flash or two here and there in the movie - just a flash - of Lucy looking like her mother.A few words on the subject of female stars past 40, which I posted earlier. The thing is, in "Watching the Detectives," Lucy is playing a lovable, or not so lovable, wacky liver of life, hyper, unattached, no doubt because of her deeply neurotic behavior. Cillian, the watcher of TV, of movies, is her antithesis. Meet cute. Mortal opposites instantly attracted. Each pulling the other toward the center while the centrifugal force of their behavior and personalities tends to send them spinning away from each other. What will happen? Will they, can they, end up together, these two? The thing is, if we take Lucy as a woman in her 40s, she isn't zany, she's nuts.And by the way, how is it that English, Irish, Australian, and New Zelandish actors do American accents so well? No hint of Cork in Murphy's work here.Or am I crazy? It's called acting, isn't it? If Lucy gets a gig in which she is required to act young and kooky, a gig's a gig, isn't it? If Mimi Rogers is called upon to play a thirty-something in "Storm Cell" when she is in fact 53, who is Mimi to say no? Who is Mimi to turn down the Rita Fiori role in "Stone Cold" in spite of the fact that Rita is supposed to be a spectacular show-stopping babe?Just to be clear, I have no problem with movie romances in which older women hook up with younger men, no more than with the opposite. But it's just too bad if Lucy had to take the role of a giddy twenty-something just to get work. (Same with Cillian Murphy but not so bad. In fact, I thought Paul Rudd (40) seemed a little old for his role in "I Love You Man.")"Watching the Detectives," by the way, is not good.No, wait. Just caught the last five minutes and came away feeling ok with the film. Lucy's character has been burned and burned again; she's desperate. Delivers a little monolog at the end which on one level could be taken as the desperate cry for love of a 40-something willing to go to any lengths to reel in this B-level dude.Visit MRQE for a list of reviews explaining in detail why the movie sucks. I'm giving it a pass.You know how sometimes when you look up an actor in IMDB and you see that he or she has been in many, many movies that you've never heard of? This is one of those movies. I'm guessing that Cillian and Lucy will thank you for not watching it. Maybe they're both Broken Lizard fans.Final question: Lucy has modeled. Throughout this movie she is garbed to look good. So in the final scene she's in a nifty little green flowered spring number with a scoop back that reveals her bra strap. A style statement, or what? Please explain.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:59:57 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>joem18b Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>8/17/2009 2:59:57 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Viewed Watching the Detectives the other night - a light romantic comedy starring Cillian Murphy and Lucy Liu. Cillian is 33 but in the movie he's playing a younger guy, or so it seemed to me. He has a baby face, so that works ok. Back in the days of Dobie Gillis, Dwayne Hickman and Bob Denver were in their late 20s playing high-school students; Dustin Hoffman was 30 when The Graduate was released. Lucy Liu, on the other hand, is 41. She can pass for younger and she's playing a Murphy contemporary in the movie, and I'd watch her in anything anyway cause I've got a little Lucy Liu jones going, but having said that, it cannot be denied that life is beginning to leave a few signs of road wear on the Liu corpus. The camera is good to her, but, oops, a quick shot of her hands... The hands go first. I read somewhere that the hands go last, but not so. Also a flash or two here and there in the movie - just a flash - of Lucy looking like her mother.A few words on the subject of female stars past 40, which I posted earlier. The thing is, in "Watching the Detectives," Lucy is playing a lovable, or not so lovable, wacky liver of life, hyper, unattached, no doubt because of her deeply neurotic behavior. Cillian, the watcher of TV, of movies, is her antithesis. Meet cute. Mortal opposites instantly attracted. Each pulling the other toward the center while the centrifugal force of their behavior and personalities tends to send them spinning away from each other. What will happen? Will they, can they, end up together, these two? The thing is, if we take Lucy as a woman in her 40s, she isn't zany, she's nuts.And by the way, how is it that English, Irish, Australian, and New Zelandish actors do American accents so well? No hint of Cork in Murphy's work here.Or am I crazy? It's called acting, isn't it? If Lucy gets a gig in which she is required to act young and kooky, a gig's a gig, isn't it? If Mimi Rogers is called upon to play a thirty-something in "Storm Cell" when she is in fact 53, who is Mimi to say no? Who is Mimi to turn down the Rita Fiori role in "Stone Cold" in spite of the fact that Rita is supposed to be a spectacular show-stopping babe?Just to be clear, I have no problem with movie romances in which older women hook up with younger men, no more than with the opposite. But it's just too bad if Lucy had to take the role of a giddy twenty-something just to get work. (Same with Cillian Murphy but not so bad. In fact, I thought Paul Rudd (40) seemed a little old for his role in "I Love You Man.")"Watching the Detectives," by the way, is not good.No, wait. Just caught the last five minutes and came away feeling ok with the film. Lucy's character has been burned and burned again; she's desperate. Delivers a little monolog at the end which on one level could be taken as the desperate cry for love of a 40-something willing to go to any lengths to reel in this B-level dude.Visit MRQE for a list of reviews explaining in detail why the movie sucks. I'm giving it a pass.You know how sometimes when you look up an actor in IMDB and you see that he or she has been in many, many movies that you've never heard of? This is one of those movies. I'm guessing that Cillian and Lucy will thank you for not watching it. Maybe they're both Broken Lizard fans.Final question: Lucy has modeled. Throughout this movie she is garbed to look good. So in the final scene she's in a nifty little green flowered spring number with a scoop back that reveals her bra strap. A style statement, or what? Please explain.</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Videogum's "Hunt for the Worst Movie of All Time"</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Worst_Movie_Ever/Re_Videogum_s_Hunt_for_the_Worst_Movie_of_All_Tim/104/43449/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/16448/default.aspx'>joem18b</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/groups/Worst_Movie_Ever/104/discussions.aspx'>Worst Movie Ever</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 8/7/2009 1:19:53 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> As you say, it's fun reading Gabe's rants from time to time. When I  first saw the title of his page, I thought it was just "Worst Movie Ever" and I objected, because Gabe is scheduling the movies he reviews and the essence of "worst movie" is that the folks who use the phrase mean it when they say it, but then keep saying it over and over again for movies that they've just seen. So cold-bloodly scheduling a worst movie in advance wouldn't count. But no, that was just me being picky, as the page is actually titled "Hunt for the Worst Movie of All Time." So let the hunt continue! They say that writing a review for a bad movie is a lot easier than writing one for a good movie. Whatever, it's certainly a lot more entertaining to read.  <br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:19:53 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Worst Movie Ever</spout:postto><spout:postdate>8/7/2009 1:19:53 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>As you say, it's fun reading Gabe's rants from time to time. When I  first saw the title of his page, I thought it was just "Worst Movie Ever" and I objected, because Gabe is scheduling the movies he reviews and the essence of "worst movie" is that the folks who use the phrase mean it when they say it, but then keep saying it over and over again for movies that they've just seen. So cold-bloodly scheduling a worst movie in advance wouldn't count. But no, that was just me being picky, as the page is actually titled "Hunt for the Worst Movie of All Time." So let the hunt continue! They say that writing a review for a bad movie is a lot easier than writing one for a good movie. Whatever, it's certainly a lot more entertaining to read.  </spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re: Favorite Horror Movies...</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/HORROR_MOVIES_101/Re_Favorite_Horror_Movies/222/43436/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t88800edbyh.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/16448/default.aspx'>joem18b</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 8/6/2009 1:32:08 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> Couple of years ago I watched Behind the Mask and mentioned it here. I was listening to a movie podcast called Double Feature the other day and the two movies under discussion were Black Christmas and Behind the Mask. The idea was that Black Christmas was the first true slasher movie (not counting Psycho) and Behind the Mask was the last one, wrapping it all up. An interview with the writer of Behind the Mask was included. Just reminded me how much I liked the movie, which the podcasters claim is gaining cult status. I think I'll check it out again, to see if it holds up.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:32:08 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>HORROR MOVIES 101</spout:postto><spout:postdate>8/6/2009 1:32:08 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Couple of years ago I watched Behind the Mask and mentioned it here. I was listening to a movie podcast called Double Feature the other day and the two movies under discussion were Black Christmas and Behind the Mask. The idea was that Black Christmas was the first true slasher movie (not counting Psycho) and Behind the Mask was the last one, wrapping it all up. An interview with the writer of Behind the Mask was included. Just reminded me how much I liked the movie, which the podcasters claim is gaining cult status. I think I'll check it out again, to see if it holds up.</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Watchmen</title>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 8/5/2009 7:54:43 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> After I watch a movie, I read some reviews about it to find out whether I liked it or not. A.O. Scott does a nice job on Watchmen, but he tells me that I didn't like it as much as I thought I did. The gist of his argument seems to be that Zack Snyder brought the 80s graphic novel faithfully to the screen and that this was not a good thing: that the ideas in the book are dated and jejune. Scott's review is so well-written that I felt ashamed about writing one of mine own, this one in fact, and I put it aside unfinished.But wait a minute. Of course the ideas in the book are dated. The ideas in Pride and Prejudice are dated. So what? And of course the ideas are the sort that would appeal to a teen reader. Watchmen was born as a series of comic books. A.O., grow down.But then, I liked "300," so what do I know?A.O. also calls out the primary sex scene in the movie as the worst of the year. Evidently A.O. steers clear of 99% of the DVDs on Blockbuster's shelves. At any rate, what I saw in that scene was an ineffective Snyder attempt to maintain Watchmen's PG-13 rating, an attempt doomed from the gitgo by the movie's blue penis.That blue penis. Over and over before watching the movie I heard about the blue pee pee. I was expecting gratuitous closeups of the prosthesis. I was expecting an azure member of a size worthy of the movie's only true superhero. What th... The little guy was as unobtrusive in the movie as it was in the book. U.S. society is messed up WRT the phallus. Judd Apatow ran a couple of focus groups while making Funny People, to discover how many dick jokes in the movie would be too many dick jokes. The answer: you can't have too many. And what is a man's member a member of anyway?Like Risselada and some other Spouters, I read Watchmen just before watching it. I like to read a book and then see the movie. If the movie heads off in some wrongheaded direction, I might shake my head philosophically, but my bile is not wont to rise when it happens. A shrug is sufficient. For example, Kiera Knightly as Elizabeth Bennet did not do it for me, but I have moved on. I do not brood. Kiera, go back to POTC before Jane Austen comes back from the grave to haunt you. OK, maybe a little brooding eventuated, but hey, Elizabeth Garvie in the role will suffice for me until Pride and Prejudice is remade yet again, which it will be.In the 60s, I went gaga over Fowles' The Magus. But then the movie version became my biggest book-to-movie disappointment. On the other hand, I read Robert Parker's Appaloosa a while back and believe me, Ed Harris is the perfect Virgil Cole in the movie version. Ditto Tom Selleck as Parker's Jesse Stone. Perhaps a reader who found Watchmen magical in the 80s and then waited twenty years for the movie might have problems with it, though I'm willing to bet that most of those folks - I've got no data - loved the movie. Anyway, I liked Watchmen the movie better than Watchmen the graphic novel. Snyder left out the pirates and other boring stuff and stuck to the main line, getting it all in, or so it seemed to me. Fresh faces in his casting choices, a big plus. I watched the movie in pieces, as if it were a mini-series, so it didn't seem to run long. And for me, if not for A. O. Scott, adding a collection of 80s tunes to the soundtrack tweaked the experience in a way not possible to a silent book. Even if those tunes have been played to death, which they have been.There has been conversation about the excessive violence in the movie. Sorry, I must have been distracted by Maggie Gyllenhaal getting blown up in the Dark Knight, and The Joker's pencil to the eyeball, and Saws I, II, III, IV, and V, and folks checking into hostels never to check out again, whatever, so that I missed the fact that Rorschach in prison got a little extreme. He does splash hot oil in a dude's face, but see, I just watched Trailer Park of Terror, in which the victim is lowered whole into hot oil like a very large freedom fry. At any rate, Snyder had obviously given up on his PG-13 quest by the time he cut together the prison fight scenes.Near the end of the book and movie, Dr. Manhattan tells Ozymandias that he's leaving for a galaxy where things aren't so complicated. The average galaxy contains 100 billion stars and there are about 100 billion galaxies in the visible universe. I'm guessing that one collection of 100 billion stars is pretty much the same as another. Stick to your own galaxy, blue guy! Remember, whereever you go, there you are. And about creating some humans of your own: who do you think you are, God? Fundamentalists are outraged! God is not blue! And if you saw His pee pee...!For recent urban total destruction, the late scenes in Watchmen are ok (reimagined from the original), but I liked the devastation in "Knowing" better -  speaking of freedom fries.Finally, for your consideration, the beginning and end of the Watchmen review found on "Christian Spotlight on Entertainment." A reviewer with his feet in the mud and head in the clouds:"For conservative Christian audiences, the prospect of seeing Zack Snyder&rsquo;s &ldquo;Watchmen&rdquo; is a non-starter. There is male frontal nudity (albeit blue and animated); numerous instances of blasphemy; shots of women&rsquo;s breasts; gory violence; and a nude love-making scene... Watchmen is a long viewing. It is sometimes ponderous, grisly, and confusing, but for those who have read the book and have reasonable expectations of what can be done in cinematic form, it is an instant classic &mdash; a tour de force which asks universal questions through comic book characters. For Christians, Dr. Manhattan represents the seeker who questions the existence of God and the meaning of life. His questions are in part answered in the realization that life is a miracle, &ldquo;gold from air,&rdquo; unexplained by the processes of nature. When the movie is over, the character that viewers will be most interested in is Dr. Manhattan and his journey to another galaxy, a journey he wouldn&rsquo;t make if he were just interested in matter."<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:54:43 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>joem18b Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>8/5/2009 7:54:43 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>After I watch a movie, I read some reviews about it to find out whether I liked it or not. A.O. Scott does a nice job on Watchmen, but he tells me that I didn't like it as much as I thought I did. The gist of his argument seems to be that Zack Snyder brought the 80s graphic novel faithfully to the screen and that this was not a good thing: that the ideas in the book are dated and jejune. Scott's review is so well-written that I felt ashamed about writing one of mine own, this one in fact, and I put it aside unfinished.But wait a minute. Of course the ideas in the book are dated. The ideas in Pride and Prejudice are dated. So what? And of course the ideas are the sort that would appeal to a teen reader. Watchmen was born as a series of comic books. A.O., grow down.But then, I liked "300," so what do I know?A.O. also calls out the primary sex scene in the movie as the worst of the year. Evidently A.O. steers clear of 99% of the DVDs on Blockbuster's shelves. At any rate, what I saw in that scene was an ineffective Snyder attempt to maintain Watchmen's PG-13 rating, an attempt doomed from the gitgo by the movie's blue penis.That blue penis. Over and over before watching the movie I heard about the blue pee pee. I was expecting gratuitous closeups of the prosthesis. I was expecting an azure member of a size worthy of the movie's only true superhero. What th... The little guy was as unobtrusive in the movie as it was in the book. U.S. society is messed up WRT the phallus. Judd Apatow ran a couple of focus groups while making Funny People, to discover how many dick jokes in the movie would be too many dick jokes. The answer: you can't have too many. And what is a man's member a member of anyway?Like Risselada and some other Spouters, I read Watchmen just before watching it. I like to read a book and then see the movie. If the movie heads off in some wrongheaded direction, I might shake my head philosophically, but my bile is not wont to rise when it happens. A shrug is sufficient. For example, Kiera Knightly as Elizabeth Bennet did not do it for me, but I have moved on. I do not brood. Kiera, go back to POTC before Jane Austen comes back from the grave to haunt you. OK, maybe a little brooding eventuated, but hey, Elizabeth Garvie in the role will suffice for me until Pride and Prejudice is remade yet again, which it will be.In the 60s, I went gaga over Fowles' The Magus. But then the movie version became my biggest book-to-movie disappointment. On the other hand, I read Robert Parker's Appaloosa a while back and believe me, Ed Harris is the perfect Virgil Cole in the movie version. Ditto Tom Selleck as Parker's Jesse Stone. Perhaps a reader who found Watchmen magical in the 80s and then waited twenty years for the movie might have problems with it, though I'm willing to bet that most of those folks - I've got no data - loved the movie. Anyway, I liked Watchmen the movie better than Watchmen the graphic novel. Snyder left out the pirates and other boring stuff and stuck to the main line, getting it all in, or so it seemed to me. Fresh faces in his casting choices, a big plus. I watched the movie in pieces, as if it were a mini-series, so it didn't seem to run long. And for me, if not for A. O. Scott, adding a collection of 80s tunes to the soundtrack tweaked the experience in a way not possible to a silent book. Even if those tunes have been played to death, which they have been.There has been conversation about the excessive violence in the movie. Sorry, I must have been distracted by Maggie Gyllenhaal getting blown up in the Dark Knight, and The Joker's pencil to the eyeball, and Saws I, II, III, IV, and V, and folks checking into hostels never to check out again, whatever, so that I missed the fact that Rorschach in prison got a little extreme. He does splash hot oil in a dude's face, but see, I just watched Trailer Park of Terror, in which the victim is lowered whole into hot oil like a very large freedom fry. At any rate, Snyder had obviously given up on his PG-13 quest by the time he cut together the prison fight scenes.Near the end of the book and movie, Dr. Manhattan tells Ozymandias that he's leaving for a galaxy where things aren't so complicated. The average galaxy contains 100 billion stars and there are about 100 billion galaxies in the visible universe. I'm guessing that one collection of 100 billion stars is pretty much the same as another. Stick to your own galaxy, blue guy! Remember, whereever you go, there you are. And about creating some humans of your own: who do you think you are, God? Fundamentalists are outraged! God is not blue! And if you saw His pee pee...!For recent urban total destruction, the late scenes in Watchmen are ok (reimagined from the original), but I liked the devastation in "Knowing" better -  speaking of freedom fries.Finally, for your consideration, the beginning and end of the Watchmen review found on "Christian Spotlight on Entertainment." A reviewer with his feet in the mud and head in the clouds:"For conservative Christian audiences, the prospect of seeing Zack Snyder&amp;rsquo;s &amp;ldquo;Watchmen&amp;rdquo; is a non-starter. There is male frontal nudity (albeit blue and animated); numerous instances of blasphemy; shots of women&amp;rsquo;s breasts; gory violence; and a nude love-making scene... Watchmen is a long viewing. It is sometimes ponderous, grisly, and confusing, but for those who have read the book and have reasonable expectations of what can be done in cinematic form, it is an instant classic &amp;mdash; a tour de force which asks universal questions through comic book characters. For Christians, Dr. Manhattan represents the seeker who questions the existence of God and the meaning of life. His questions are in part answered in the realization that life is a miracle, &amp;ldquo;gold from air,&amp;rdquo; unexplained by the processes of nature. When the movie is over, the character that viewers will be most interested in is Dr. Manhattan and his journey to another galaxy, a journey he wouldn&amp;rsquo;t make if he were just interested in matter."</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Dog of the week?</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/joem18b/archive/2009/7/29/43317.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s365088.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/16448/default.aspx'>joem18b</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 7/29/2009 6:44:26 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> With reference to my previous posting  THE WORST MOVIE I'VE EVER SEEN: CITIZEN KANE, let me recognize this recent review of Yeast by a Spout member:"this movie was by far the worst "indie" film i have ever seen in my entire life... and i don't think that that any movie i see in the future will be nearly as bad at this one."<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:44:26 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>joem18b Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>7/29/2009 6:44:26 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>With reference to my previous posting  THE WORST MOVIE I'VE EVER SEEN: CITIZEN KANE, let me recognize this recent review of Yeast by a Spout member:"this movie was by far the worst "indie" film i have ever seen in my entire life... and i don't think that that any movie i see in the future will be nearly as bad at this one."</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: SMOOSHED, THEN WHISKED OFFSCREEN</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/joem18b/archive/2009/7/29/43316.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t06972jsz2c.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 7/29/2009 6:31:35 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> Watched some Sarah Connor Chronicles last night. A T1000 killer robot is crossing the street, just a couple of steps behind Sarah with killing on his cyborg mind, when Bang! a bus or truck crashes into him and carries him offscreen, putting him out of commission just long enough for Sarah to escape. The T1000 is presumably unable to keep track of traffic and chase Sarah at the same time, or perhaps in this instance it was programmed to decommission its urban pedestrian subroutines upon reaching kill-zone proximity to its prey.First time that I saw this particular accident/plot device/action sequence - smoosh-and-carry offscreen - as I recall - was in one of the Final Destination movies. Nice! I thought at the time. Something new. Also the second and third and fourth times that I saw this, in whatever the movies that used it, I continued to think, Nice! For example, I remember a romantic comedy in which the husband was a real jerk but crunch, he was removed expediously in the first reel by a taxi cab.So who dreamed up this little sequence - this deus ex machina via dumptruck? A tip of the hat to him or her, whomever, though when the T1000 got bonked last night, I noticed that as my How-is-Sarah-going-to-get-out-of-this-one? was answered, my reaction was no longer Nice! but Oh, ok, right, that one.Considering that Connor must escape impending death by machine multiple times per episode, it's no suprise that the writers use traffic as a tool in this way. Similarly, Sarah runs over her persuer at least once, driving a truck of her own.(Note to self: watch one of these smoosh sequences frame-by-frame.)A few points that may or may not be true: - The accident only occurs when/if required by the plot. Sort of like when necessary information appears on a TV screen in the movie, or issues from a car radio, just when the protagonist needs it. Smooshing has never happened just for fun. Yet.- The victim is carried off from left to right (in U.S. films), because the accident always happens in the lane closest to the camera. If the body goes from right to left, check to see whether everyone in the film appears to be left-handed.- When this accident happens to the hero, he or she is bounced up onto the hood, hits the windshield, and goes over the top of the car (it's never a bus) to land on the pavement behind, momentarily stunned. Didn't this happen in The Rocker, for example?- This sequence is just a variation based on the cartoon character who looks both ways, steps into the street, and is mowed down?- A study has been done. This action sequence was first used mostly at the end of the movie, but now is thrown in as soon as is needed, whenever- Because the universe is synchronous, the moment that I began typing this blog entry, an article appeared in Slate about getting hit by a bus, though interestingly, the article does not mention getting hit by a bus in the movies - only in literature.So anyway, is it time for new wrinkles? Or have the wrinkles already arrived and I've just missed them? Ways to move on:- Victim is in the center of an intersection and is carried off in two perpendicular directions (one-half each) by two trucks or buses.- Two victims, one bus? Simese twins, perhaps, or a couple?- Slo mo?- Put the scene in a western? Stage coach roars by? Amish couple on a flatbed wagon, hauling knurled flour back to the homestead to make pone, carry off pedestrian who squooging through the main-street mud?- Victim dances out of the way of the truck, gets carried off by cyclist in the bike lane, with some voiceover PSA dialog or angry cyclist blue language?<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:31:35 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>joem18b Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>7/29/2009 6:31:35 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Watched some Sarah Connor Chronicles last night. A T1000 killer robot is crossing the street, just a couple of steps behind Sarah with killing on his cyborg mind, when Bang! a bus or truck crashes into him and carries him offscreen, putting him out of commission just long enough for Sarah to escape. The T1000 is presumably unable to keep track of traffic and chase Sarah at the same time, or perhaps in this instance it was programmed to decommission its urban pedestrian subroutines upon reaching kill-zone proximity to its prey.First time that I saw this particular accident/plot device/action sequence - smoosh-and-carry offscreen - as I recall - was in one of the Final Destination movies. Nice! I thought at the time. Something new. Also the second and third and fourth times that I saw this, in whatever the movies that used it, I continued to think, Nice! For example, I remember a romantic comedy in which the husband was a real jerk but crunch, he was removed expediously in the first reel by a taxi cab.So who dreamed up this little sequence - this deus ex machina via dumptruck? A tip of the hat to him or her, whomever, though when the T1000 got bonked last night, I noticed that as my How-is-Sarah-going-to-get-out-of-this-one? was answered, my reaction was no longer Nice! but Oh, ok, right, that one.Considering that Connor must escape impending death by machine multiple times per episode, it's no suprise that the writers use traffic as a tool in this way. Similarly, Sarah runs over her persuer at least once, driving a truck of her own.(Note to self: watch one of these smoosh sequences frame-by-frame.)A few points that may or may not be true: - The accident only occurs when/if required by the plot. Sort of like when necessary information appears on a TV screen in the movie, or issues from a car radio, just when the protagonist needs it. Smooshing has never happened just for fun. Yet.- The victim is carried off from left to right (in U.S. films), because the accident always happens in the lane closest to the camera. If the body goes from right to left, check to see whether everyone in the film appears to be left-handed.- When this accident happens to the hero, he or she is bounced up onto the hood, hits the windshield, and goes over the top of the car (it's never a bus) to land on the pavement behind, momentarily stunned. Didn't this happen in The Rocker, for example?- This sequence is just a variation based on the cartoon character who looks both ways, steps into the street, and is mowed down?- A study has been done. This action sequence was first used mostly at the end of the movie, but now is thrown in as soon as is needed, whenever- Because the universe is synchronous, the moment that I began typing this blog entry, an article appeared in Slate about getting hit by a bus, though interestingly, the article does not mention getting hit by a bus in the movies - only in literature.So anyway, is it time for new wrinkles? Or have the wrinkles already arrived and I've just missed them? Ways to move on:- Victim is in the center of an intersection and is carried off in two perpendicular directions (one-half each) by two trucks or buses.- Two victims, one bus? Simese twins, perhaps, or a couple?- Slo mo?- Put the scene in a western? Stage coach roars by? Amish couple on a flatbed wagon, hauling knurled flour back to the homestead to make pone, carry off pedestrian who squooging through the main-street mud?- Victim dances out of the way of the truck, gets carried off by cyclist in the bike lane, with some voiceover PSA dialog or angry cyclist blue language?</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Weekly Theme for March 9: Time Travel</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_March_9_Time_Travel/625/42448/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/16448/default.aspx'>joem18b</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 5/28/2009 5:21:02 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> [quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] as i said previously, i assumed that all neurologists would scoff at the notion of free will. i forgot that the members of this bunch were all conservative republicans. when i asked if, knowledgable as they were about the inner workings of the brain, they believed in free will, as a man (they're all male) they replied, "Sure we believe in free will. Nobody is going to tell us what to do!" [/quote] Hmmm, so what are your assumptions in this matter?  What do you think the implications of this is? Are you suggesting that the idea if free will is one held by conservative republicans while those holding differeing or opposite political viewpoints might find the idea of free will an illusion? Or are you suggesting that the question of free will cannot be determined by the study of neurology or the kind of study and reasoning usually implemented by our common study of science and the scientific method (my personal hunch)?  Are you saying that beliefs commonly held in a profession are trumped by political beliefs? Any or all of these things?  Or anything else? [/quote] first, a question for you: two lesbians and a dwarf walk into a bar... does that make you smile or not?<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:21:02 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Weekly Theme</spout:postto><spout:postdate>5/28/2009 5:21:02 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>[quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] as i said previously, i assumed that all neurologists would scoff at the notion of free will. i forgot that the members of this bunch were all conservative republicans. when i asked if, knowledgable as they were about the inner workings of the brain, they believed in free will, as a man (they're all male) they replied, "Sure we believe in free will. Nobody is going to tell us what to do!" [/quote] Hmmm, so what are your assumptions in this matter?  What do you think the implications of this is? Are you suggesting that the idea if free will is one held by conservative republicans while those holding differeing or opposite political viewpoints might find the idea of free will an illusion? Or are you suggesting that the question of free will cannot be determined by the study of neurology or the kind of study and reasoning usually implemented by our common study of science and the scientific method (my personal hunch)?  Are you saying that beliefs commonly held in a profession are trumped by political beliefs? Any or all of these things?  Or anything else? [/quote] first, a question for you: two lesbians and a dwarf walk into a bar... does that make you smile or not?</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Weekly Theme for March 9: Time Travel</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_March_9_Time_Travel/625/42360/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/16448/default.aspx'>joem18b</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 5/21/2009 3:18:20 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> as i said previously, i assumed that all neurologists would scoff at the notion of free will. i forgot that the members of this bunch were all conservative republicans. when i asked if, knowledgable as they were about the inner workings of the brain, they believed in free will, as a man (they're all male) they replied, "Sure we believe in free will. Nobody is going to tell us what to do!"<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 07:18:20 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Weekly Theme</spout:postto><spout:postdate>5/21/2009 3:18:20 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>as i said previously, i assumed that all neurologists would scoff at the notion of free will. i forgot that the members of this bunch were all conservative republicans. when i asked if, knowledgable as they were about the inner workings of the brain, they believed in free will, as a man (they're all male) they replied, "Sure we believe in free will. Nobody is going to tell us what to do!"</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Weekly Theme for May 11: Camping</title>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 5/16/2009 1:35:17 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> [quote user="mercurial"] [quote user="joem18b"] The great thing about Sleepaway Camp is that there are 5 sequels, probably with more to come. [/quote] I've been trying to watch all the Sleepaway Camp movies but can never seem to find the first one and I hate watching movies out of sequence. [/quote] pirate bay has it, if you don't object to bit torrent<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 05:35:17 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Weekly Theme</spout:postto><spout:postdate>5/16/2009 1:35:17 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>[quote user="mercurial"] [quote user="joem18b"] The great thing about Sleepaway Camp is that there are 5 sequels, probably with more to come. [/quote] I've been trying to watch all the Sleepaway Camp movies but can never seem to find the first one and I hate watching movies out of sequence. [/quote] pirate bay has it, if you don't object to bit torrent</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Weekly Theme for May 11: Camping</title>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 5/14/2009 10:00:30 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> When i watched Old Joy, i didn't know that it was a mumblecore movie (made by Kelly Reichardt, who just did Wendy and Lucy). Low budget, two guys out in the woods - I kept waiting for the broken leg or crazy mountain person or whatever. But no, just an excellent character study. The great thing about Sleepaway Camp is that there are 5 sequels, probably with more to come.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:00:30 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Weekly Theme</spout:postto><spout:postdate>5/14/2009 10:00:30 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>When i watched Old Joy, i didn't know that it was a mumblecore movie (made by Kelly Reichardt, who just did Wendy and Lucy). Low budget, two guys out in the woods - I kept waiting for the broken leg or crazy mountain person or whatever. But no, just an excellent character study. The great thing about Sleepaway Camp is that there are 5 sequels, probably with more to come.</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Weekly Theme for March 9: Time Travel</title>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 5/8/2009 1:56:44 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> [quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] [quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] [quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] [quote user="Risselada"] But is that what most neurologists really think?  That free will doesn't exist?  Is that what they would honestly and bluntly say? [/quote] I'll be in a meeting with a couple of them a week from Tuesday. If I can remember, I'll ask them. [/quote] For real?  In what context?  I'd be interested to know if you can remember to ask them!! [/quote] we're all on the board of a chamber orchestra. i should write myself a note. if i find anybody there who believes in free will, i'll be suprised. [/quote] Ok, don't forget to ask them tomorrow!! [/quote] It's a week from tomorrow. The tension mounts! [/quote] Oh no!  I was expecting a response today!!!! Why won't your future self time travel back to now so that you can write me the response without delay! [/quote] I did travel back. I told me that there is in fact "will," but that it isn't "free." Then I said to me, "See you later!"<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:56:44 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>joem18b</spout:postby><spout:postto>Weekly Theme</spout:postto><spout:postdate>5/8/2009 1:56:44 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>[quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] [quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] [quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="joem18b"] [quote user="Risselada"] But is that what most neurologists really think?  That free will doesn't exist?  Is that what they would honestly and bluntly say? [/quote] I'll be in a meeting with a couple of them a week from Tuesday. If I can remember, I'll ask them. [/quote] For real?  In what context?  I'd be interested to know if you can remember to ask them!! [/quote] we're all on the board of a chamber orchestra. i should write myself a note. if i find anybody there who believes in free will, i'll be suprised. [/quote] Ok, don't forget to ask them tomorrow!! [/quote] It's a week from tomorrow. The tension mounts! [/quote] Oh no!  I was expecting a response today!!!! Why won't your future self time travel back to now so that you can write me the response without delay! [/quote] I did travel back. I told me that there is in fact "will," but that it isn't "free." Then I said to me, "See you later!"</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Member:XtreamDenny</title>
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<strong>Identity:</strong> XtreamDenny<br/>
<strong>Number of lists:</strong> 4<br/>
<strong>Member since:</strong> 9/7/2007<br/>
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<strong>Identity:</strong> bofo<br/>
<strong>Number of lists:</strong> 4<br/>
<strong>Member since:</strong> 9/7/2007<br/>
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<strong>Identity:</strong> seanjoneswrexham<br/>
<strong>Number of lists:</strong> 4<br/>
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      <title>Spout Member:nny921</title>
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<strong>Identity:</strong> nny921<br/>
<strong>Number of lists:</strong> 4<br/>
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      <title>Spout Member:mr_lol</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/members/92275/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div style='display:block;height:120px;width:400px;font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/Avatars/Members/92275.gif?TimeStamp='8/6/2007 8:30:22 AM'' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Identity:</strong> mr_lol<br/>
<strong>Number of lists:</strong> 4<br/>
<strong>Member since:</strong> 9/3/2007<br/>
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      <title>Spout Member:fire1311</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/members/91742/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div style='display:block;height:120px;width:400px;font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/Avatars/Members/91742.gif?TimeStamp='6/27/2008 8:28:28 AM'' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Identity:</strong> fire1311<br/>
<strong>Number of lists:</strong> 4<br/>
<strong>Member since:</strong> 9/1/2007<br/>
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      <title>Spout Member:Argueta</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/members/91469/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div style='display:block;height:120px;width:400px;font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/Avatars/Members/91469.gif?TimeStamp='6/27/2008 8:28:28 AM'' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Identity:</strong> Argueta<br/>
<strong>Number of lists:</strong> 4<br/>
<strong>Member since:</strong> 8/31/2007<br/>
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      <title>Film:Funny Games</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/Funny_Games/288707/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s288707.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> Funny Games<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2007<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Michael Haneke<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 27<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 24<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 14<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 8<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 3<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:47:00 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Funny Games</spout:Title><spout:Year>2007</spout:Year><spout:Director>Michael Haneke</spout:Director><spout:TimesTagged>27</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Tag Target (&gt;10)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>24</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>14</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>8</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>3</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s288707.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Funny_Games/288707/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:The Dark Knight</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/The_Dark_Knight/288704/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s288704.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> The Dark Knight<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2008<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Christopher Nolan<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 149<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 98<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 156<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 55<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 4<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:13:34 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>The Dark Knight</spout:Title><spout:Year>2008</spout:Year><spout:Director>Christopher Nolan</spout:Director><spout:TimesTagged>149</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Tag Target (&gt;10)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>98</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>156</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>55</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>4</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s288704.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/The_Dark_Knight/288704/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:H2</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/H2/397884/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s397884.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> H2<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2009<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Rob Zombie<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 1<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:45:58 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>H2</spout:Title><spout:Year>2009</spout:Year><spout:Director>Rob Zombie</spout:Director><spout:Numberoflists>1</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>1</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:SpoutRating>1</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s397884.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/H2/397884/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:Eleanor: First Lady of the World</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/Eleanor_First_Lady_of_the_World/10331/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/images/no_image.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
<td>
<strong>Title:</strong> Eleanor: First Lady of the World<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1982<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> John Erman<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 1<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:47:51 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Eleanor: First Lady of the World</spout:Title><spout:Year>1982</spout:Year><spout:Director>John Erman</spout:Director><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>1</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/images/no_image.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Eleanor_First_Lady_of_the_World/10331/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:Black Test Car</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/Black_Test_Car/328181/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u37747stl5z.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> Black Test Car<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1962<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 4<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:01:54 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Black Test Car</spout:Title><spout:Year>1962</spout:Year><spout:Numberoflists>2</spout:Numberoflists><spout:SpoutRating>4</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u37747stl5z.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Black_Test_Car/328181/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:Dumpster Baby</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/Dumpster_Baby/273527/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t76920jjhow.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> Dumpster Baby<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> James Bickert<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 1<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:53:10 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Dumpster Baby</spout:Title><spout:Director>James Bickert</spout:Director><spout:Numberoflists>1</spout:Numberoflists><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t76920jjhow.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Dumpster_Baby/273527/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:Rick</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/Rick/235722/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t51978e8qnf.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> Rick<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2002<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Curtiss Clayton<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 2<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:32:48 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Rick</spout:Title><spout:Year>2002</spout:Year><spout:Director>Curtiss Clayton</spout:Director><spout:TimesTagged>1</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Slightly Tagged (1-5)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>1</spout:Numberoflists><spout:SpoutRating>2</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t51978e8qnf.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Rick/235722/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:Speed Racer</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/Speed_Racer/297765/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s297765.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> Speed Racer<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2008<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Andy Wachowski, Larry Wachowski<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 90<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 16<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 41<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 16<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 3<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:21:45 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Speed Racer</spout:Title><spout:Year>2008</spout:Year><spout:Director>Andy Wachowski, Larry Wachowski</spout:Director><spout:TimesTagged>90</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Tag Target (&gt;10)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>16</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>41</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>16</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>3</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s297765.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Speed_Racer/297765/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:Speed Racer [Anime Series]</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/Speed_Racer_Anime_Series/32330/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/images/no_image.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
<td>
<strong>Title:</strong> Speed Racer [Anime Series]<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1967<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 3<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:20:43 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Speed Racer [Anime Series]</spout:Title><spout:Year>1967</spout:Year><spout:Numberoflists>1</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>1</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>1</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>3</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/images/no_image.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Speed_Racer_Anime_Series/32330/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:The Raven</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/The_Raven/317289/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u08974fjkcg.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> The Raven<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2007<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Ulli Lommel<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 1<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 04:13:53 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>The Raven</spout:Title><spout:Year>2007</spout:Year><spout:Director>Ulli Lommel</spout:Director><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>2</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:SpoutRating>1</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u08974fjkcg.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/The_Raven/317289/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:The Ballad of the Sad Cafe</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/The_Ballad_of_the_Sad_Cafe/2239/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t54643em1b1.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
<td>
<strong>Title:</strong> The Ballad of the Sad Cafe<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1991<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Simon Callow<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 2<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:25:24 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>The Ballad of the Sad Cafe</spout:Title><spout:Year>1991</spout:Year><spout:Director>Simon Callow</spout:Director><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>2</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:SpoutRating>2</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t54643em1b1.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/The_Ballad_of_the_Sad_Cafe/2239/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:New York, New York</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/New_York_New_York/24524/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u47828gvtpe.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
<td>
<strong>Title:</strong> New York, New York<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1977<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Martin Scorsese<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 23<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 12<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 57<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 2<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:22:40 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>New York, New York</spout:Title><spout:Year>1977</spout:Year><spout:Director>Martin Scorsese</spout:Director><spout:TimesTagged>23</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Tag Target (&gt;10)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>12</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>57</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>2</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>2</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u47828gvtpe.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/New_York_New_York/24524/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Film:St. Nick</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/films/St_Nick/402616/default.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<table width='100%' style='font:10px/10px Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;'><tr><td><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s402616.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' /></td>
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<strong>Title:</strong> St. Nick<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2009<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> David Lowery<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 3<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 5<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 5<br/>
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<strong>Title:</strong> We Are the Strange<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 2007<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> M dot Strange<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 3<br/>
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<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 4<br/>
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<strong>Title:</strong> The Sadist<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1963<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> James Landis<br/>
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<strong>Title:</strong> The Alligator People<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1959<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Roy Del Ruth<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 2<br/>
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