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Join the conversation, or start some of your own. Add to lists (help people find movies to love). Find people who love sci-fi as much as you, and decide the winners: Wolverine vs. Hellboy, Batman vs. Rorschach, or Transformers vs. G.I. Joe.


Created: 12/15/2005
Number of Members: 100
Number of Lists: 8
Number of discussion posts: 434
]]>Fri, 01 May 2009 15:23:18 GMTsci-fiThu, 15 Dec 2005 15:17:38 GMT1008434 Spout Group:nusoft - a gathering place for film lovin nusoft peoples http://www.spout.com/groups/nusoft/69/default.aspx Group Name: nusoft - a gathering place for film lovin nusoft peoples
Created: 3/21/2006
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Number of Lists: 2
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]]>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:53:38 GMTnusoftTue, 21 Mar 2006 15:57:25 GMT721 Spout Group:War - War Films and Lists http://www.spout.com/groups/War/29/default.aspx Group Name: War - War Films and Lists
Created: 1/5/2006
Number of Members: 2
Number of Lists: 3
]]>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:48:19 GMTWarThu, 05 Jan 2006 17:08:40 GMT230 Spout Group:RoundHouse-Face-Kickers - The chief export of Chuck Norris is Pain. http://www.spout.com/groups/RoundHouse_Face_Kickers/32/default.aspx Group Name: RoundHouse-Face-Kickers - The chief export of Chuck Norris is Pain.
Created: 1/16/2006
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]]>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:34:34 GMTRoundHouse-Face-KickersMon, 16 Jan 2006 20:30:24 GMT210 Spout Group:The Imagination of Fantasy - Movies that take us to worlds we can only dream about http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Imagination_of_Fantasy/47/default.aspx Group Name: The Imagination of Fantasy - Movies that take us to worlds we can only dream about
Group Description: If you love to read books and watch movies about fantasy and the fantastic, this group is for you!
Created: 3/4/2006
Number of Members: 38
Number of Lists: 14
Number of discussion posts: 186
]]>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:21:53 GMTThe Imagination of FantasySat, 04 Mar 2006 16:07:47 GMT3814186 Spout Group:Movie Soundtracks - Movie sound tracks. http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Soundtracks/100/default.aspx Group Name: Movie Soundtracks - Movie sound tracks.
Created: 5/3/2006
Number of Members: 126
Number of Lists: 8
Number of discussion posts: 155
]]>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:43:29 GMTMovie SoundtracksWed, 03 May 2006 12:49:51 GMT1268155 Spout Group:Tim Burton - Too evil or creepy done just right? http://www.spout.com/groups/Tim_Burton/39/default.aspx Group Name: Tim Burton - Too evil or creepy done just right?
Created: 2/28/2006
Number of Members: 19
Number of Lists: 1
Number of discussion posts: 14
]]>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:58:12 GMTTim BurtonTue, 28 Feb 2006 16:59:41 GMT19114 Spout Group:Grew up in the 80's - If you watched a lot of movies in the 80's, you're in. http://www.spout.com/groups/Grew_up_in_the_80_s/38/default.aspx Group Name: Grew up in the 80's - If you watched a lot of movies in the 80's, you're in.
Created: 2/7/2006
Number of Members: 46
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]]>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:56:08 GMTGrew up in the 80'sTue, 07 Feb 2006 13:01:08 GMT46376 Spout Group:Beyond Barney - Kid-friendly films that won't make you ill http://www.spout.com/groups/Beyond_Barney/37/default.aspx Group Name: Beyond Barney - Kid-friendly films that won't make you ill
Group Description: I know that in recent years, family-focused (particularly animated) features have become huge successes for studios, parents, and kids alike. I don't mean to buck the system, but I fear my children being unduly influenced by Disney or Pixar or whomever. The genius of these films in part is their dual plot lines, reaching out to both parents and kids. But the wink-wink nudge-nudge aspect of the parent-directed jokes make me weary, and long for film that help me more directly connect with my child. Laugh at the same joke. It started with comparing Toccata for Toy Trains to Barney, where I asked myself why couldn't films worthy of my kids' attention also appeal to me on the same level? So these aren't the only criteria for listing films here - it's more of a popular brainstorm about such things. But it's what made me start this group. Feel free to join, and don't see this as an academic course but do take it seriously. If you add films to one of the lists, please try to give a brief description for the rest of us. Thanks!
Created: 1/17/2006
Number of Members: 14
Number of Lists: 8
Number of discussion posts: 11
]]>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:54:22 GMTBeyond BarneyTue, 17 Jan 2006 09:32:11 GMT14811 Spout Group:Quentin Tarantino - Everything Quentin http://www.spout.com/groups/Quentin_Tarantino/49/default.aspx Group Name: Quentin Tarantino - Everything Quentin
Group Description: This is a group for lovers of Quentin Tarantino. Blood, guts, gore and all!! What's your favorite Quentin Tarantino film?
Created: 3/6/2006
Number of Members: 12
Number of Lists: 1
Number of discussion posts: 23
]]>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 03:23:29 GMTQuentin TarantinoMon, 06 Mar 2006 11:38:17 GMT12123 Spout Group Post: another knock-off? http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/another_knock_off/4/6/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: another knock-off?
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By:
Post Date: 12/21/2005 3:20:34 PM
Body: Logan's Run i watched Ewan McGregor in "The Island" a few days ago and I kept having thoughts of how it was basically a remake of Logan's Run. so I had to break out the classics. I forgot how much i really enjoyed this movie. Peter York was a perfect fit for the role. The special effects were pretty low-budget; everytime they would shoot at the runner it always made a spark at their feet. i guess in the future nobody is taught how to aim. it reminded me of the old bugs bunny cartoons where yosemite would shoot at the feet and yell "dance ya varmint". Aside from that, I loved the theme of the movie.who can forget the creepy "renewal ceremony" masks?
]]>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:20:34 GMTanother knock-off?sci-fiLogan's Run i watched Ewan McGregor in "The Island" a few days ago and I kept having thoughts of how it was basically a remake of Logan's Run. so I had to break out the classics. I forgot how much i really enjoyed this movie. Peter York was a perfect fit for the role. The special effects were pretty low-budget; everytime they would shoot at the runner it always made a spark at their feet. i guess in the future nobody is taught how to aim. it reminded me of the old bugs bunny cartoons where yosemite would shoot at the feet and yell "dance ya varmint". Aside from that, I loved the theme of the movie.who can forget the creepy "renewal ceremony" masks?12/21/2005 3:20:34 PMLogan's Run i watched Ewan McGregor in "The Island" a few days ago and I kept having thoughts of how it was basically a remake of Logan's Run. so I had to break out the classics. I forgot how much i really enjoyed this movie. Peter York was a perfect fit for the role. The special effects were pretty low-budget; everytime they would shoot at the runner it always made a spark at their feet. i guess in the future nobody is taught how to aim. it reminded me of the old bugs bunny cartoons where yosemite would shoot at the feet and yell "dance ya varmint". Aside from that, I loved the theme of the movie.who can forget the creepy "renewal ceremony" masks? Spout Group Post: best star trek movie? http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/best_star_trek_movie/4/485/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: best star trek movie?
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: rjsprague
Post Date: 3/17/2006 12:39:31 PM
Body: what was the best star trek movie released and why?
]]>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:39:31 GMTbest star trek movie?sci-fiwhat was the best star trek movie released and why?3/17/2006 12:39:31 PMwhat was the best star trek movie released and why? Spout Group Post: coolest sci fi planet to visit? http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/coolest_sci_fi_planet_to_visit/4/498/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: coolest sci fi planet to visit?
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: seely
Post Date: 3/17/2006 11:19:05 PM
Body: where would you go and why?
]]>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:19:05 GMTcoolest sci fi planet to visit?sci-fiwhere would you go and why?3/17/2006 11:19:05 PMwhere would you go and why? Spout Group Post: fun sci-fi http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/fun_sci_fi/4/543/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: fun sci-fi
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: SkyPilot
Post Date: 3/21/2006 9:53:07 PM
Body: why is it that so many sci-fi movies are either creepy, dramatic or dark? whatever happened to just plain fun sci-fi? case in point: ghostbusters. it's just an entertaining sci-fi flick that you can laugh along with. anybody else recommend something thats a cross between comedy and sci-fi?
]]>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:53:07 GMTfun sci-fisci-fiwhy is it that so many sci-fi movies are either creepy, dramatic or dark? whatever happened to just plain fun sci-fi? case in point: ghostbusters. it's just an entertaining sci-fi flick that you can laugh along with. anybody else recommend something thats a cross between comedy and sci-fi?3/21/2006 9:53:07 PMwhy is it that so many sci-fi movies are either creepy, dramatic or dark? whatever happened to just plain fun sci-fi? case in point: ghostbusters. it's just an entertaining sci-fi flick that you can laugh along with. anybody else recommend something thats a cross between comedy and sci-fi? Spout Group Post: best sci fi hero? http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/best_sci_fi_hero/4/494/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: best sci fi hero?
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: SkyPilot
Post Date: 3/17/2006 11:15:20 PM
Body: who is the awesomest sci fi hero of all time?
]]>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:15:20 GMTbest sci fi hero?sci-fiwho is the awesomest sci fi hero of all time?3/17/2006 11:15:20 PMwho is the awesomest sci fi hero of all time? Spout Group Post: hellboy revisited http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/hellboy_revisited/4/439/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: hellboy revisited
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: indieabby88
Post Date: 3/14/2006 1:11:54 AM
Body: after hearing that Hellboy 2 will be in production soon, i had to dig this old favorite out again for another go.this is one of those "background" movies for me. I can put it on and do other stuff and just be mildly distracted by the film because I know it so well. i really need to go back and read the comics someday. i miss the dark-heroic characters of the comic.
]]>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:11:54 GMThellboy revisitedsci-fiafter hearing that Hellboy 2 will be in production soon, i had to dig this old favorite out again for another go.this is one of those "background" movies for me. I can put it on and do other stuff and just be mildly distracted by the film because I know it so well. i really need to go back and read the comics someday. i miss the dark-heroic characters of the comic.3/14/2006 1:11:54 AMafter hearing that Hellboy 2 will be in production soon, i had to dig this old favorite out again for another go.this is one of those "background" movies for me. I can put it on and do other stuff and just be mildly distracted by the film because I know it so well. i really need to go back and read the comics someday. i miss the dark-heroic characters of the comic. Spout Group Post: The best sci fi villain? http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/The_best_sci_fi_villain/4/495/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: The best sci fi villain?
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: rjsprague
Post Date: 3/17/2006 11:16:03 PM
Body: who was the baddest of the bad? and why?
]]>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:16:03 GMTThe best sci fi villain?sci-fiwho was the baddest of the bad? and why?3/17/2006 11:16:03 PMwho was the baddest of the bad? and why? Spout Group Post: Chuck Noris http://www.spout.com/groups/Player_Haters_Ball/Chuck_Noris/31/164/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Chuck Noris
Group Name: Player Haters Ball
Last Post By: liisa
Post Date: 1/13/2006 4:10:01 PM
Body: is bad bad bad bad. I vote for no more Chuck Noris movies!!!
]]>Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:10:01 GMTChuck NorisPlayer Haters Ballis bad bad bad bad. I vote for no more Chuck Noris movies!!!1/13/2006 4:10:01 PMis bad bad bad bad. I vote for no more Chuck Noris movies!!! Spout Group Post: Deckard - android or human? http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/Deckard_android_or_human/4/17990/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Deckard - android or human?
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: FastBoat710
Post Date: 8/13/2007 7:02:53 PM
Body: is he or isnt he?whats your guess and why?
]]>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:02:53 GMTDeckard - android or human?sci-fiis he or isnt he?whats your guess and why?8/13/2007 7:02:53 PMis he or isnt he?whats your guess and why? Spout Group Post: attn mr. peter jackson http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/attn_mr_peter_jackson/4/442/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: attn mr. peter jackson
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: Risselada
Post Date: 3/14/2006 2:24:03 AM
Body: mr. jackson, king kong kinda tanked on ya didnt it? well you could redeem yourself and do the hobbit. come on....a few more months in new zealand wont hurt. you probably still have all your stuff there anyway.
]]>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:24:03 GMTattn mr. peter jacksonsci-fimr. jackson, king kong kinda tanked on ya didnt it? well you could redeem yourself and do the hobbit. come on....a few more months in new zealand wont hurt. you probably still have all your stuff there anyway.3/14/2006 2:24:03 AMmr. jackson, king kong kinda tanked on ya didnt it? well you could redeem yourself and do the hobbit. come on....a few more months in new zealand wont hurt. you probably still have all your stuff there anyway. Spout Group Post: why matrix 2 and 3 are in the suck list http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/why_matrix_2_and_3_are_in_the_suck_list/4/128/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: why matrix 2 and 3 are in the suck list
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: MoviePixie
Post Date: 1/4/2006 1:38:57 AM
Body: o.k. here is where i justify the suckiness of the sequels. flashback to matrix 1. Neo has obtained a godlike status at the end of the film. he is able to shake up and manipulate the matrix like a friggin 'etch a sketch.'nothing can stop neo. not even himself. fast forward to the sequels.neo is back to sissy mode. what gives? did he bump his head and forget how to toss around the matrix?and the messianic ending of the third movie was enough to make me barf. i was screaming at the screen "please god, let a robot kill this poor bastard and end my misery!" o.k. maybe not screaming. but severely disappointed. the only redeeming value was the kick-ass mech battle. that was it. the sappy ass love scenes were inappropriate to the entire series but yet, there they were, the cliche' "keanu loves you baby but he's such a tortured soul." And if i have to watch yet another Keanu movie where he spends a majority of his screen time walking around with this "help me mister i've lost my mom" look, I swear to almighty God, I will rip my toenails off with a rusty fishing knife. Because that would undoubtedly garner more pleasure than yet another Matrix sequel.they suck. get over it.
]]>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 06:38:57 GMTwhy matrix 2 and 3 are in the suck listsci-fio.k. here is where i justify the suckiness of the sequels. flashback to matrix 1. Neo has obtained a godlike status at the end of the film. he is able to shake up and manipulate the matrix like a friggin 'etch a sketch.'nothing can stop neo. not even himself. fast forward to the sequels.neo is back to sissy mode. what gives? did he bump his head and forget how to toss around the matrix?and the messianic ending of the third movie was enough to make me barf. i was screaming at the screen "please god, let a robot kill this poor bastard and end my misery!" o.k. maybe not screaming. but severely disappointed. the only redeeming value was the kick-ass mech battle. that was it. the sappy ass love scenes were inappropriate to the entire series but yet, there they were, the cliche' "keanu loves you baby but he's such a tortured soul." And if i have to watch yet another Keanu movie where he spends a majority of his screen time walking around with this "help me mister i've lost my mom" look, I swear to almighty God, I will rip my toenails off with a rusty fishing knife. Because that would undoubtedly garner more pleasure than yet another Matrix sequel.they suck. get over it. 1/4/2006 1:38:57 AMo.k. here is where i justify the suckiness of the sequels. flashback to matrix 1. Neo has obtained a godlike status at the end of the film. he is able to shake up and manipulate the matrix like a friggin 'etch a sketch.'nothing can stop neo. not even himself. fast forward to the sequels.neo is back to sissy mode. what gives? did he bump his head and forget how to toss around the matrix?and the messianic ending of the third movie was enough to make me barf. i was screaming at the screen "please god, let a robot kill this poor bastard and end my misery!" o.k. maybe not screaming. but severely disappointed. the only redeeming value was the kick-ass mech battle. that was it. the sappy ass love scenes were inappropriate to the entire series but yet, there they were, the cliche' "keanu loves you baby but he's such a tortured soul." And if i have to watch yet another Keanu movie where he spends a majority of his screen time walking around with this "help me mister i've lost my mom" look, I swear to almighty God, I will rip my toenails off with a rusty fishing knife. Because that would undoubtedly garner more pleasure than yet another Matrix sequel.they suck. get over it. Spout Group Post: robot sidekicks http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/robot_sidekicks/4/496/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: robot sidekicks
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 3/17/2006 11:18:11 PM
Body: name a movie or t.v. show that featured a human with a robotic sidekick.
]]>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:18:11 GMTrobot sidekickssci-finame a movie or t.v. show that featured a human with a robotic sidekick. 3/17/2006 11:18:11 PMname a movie or t.v. show that featured a human with a robotic sidekick. Spout Group Post: Favortie Quentin Tarantino Flick http://www.spout.com/groups/Quentin_Tarantino/Favortie_Quentin_Tarantino_Flick/49/288/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Favortie Quentin Tarantino Flick
Group Name: Quentin Tarantino
Last Post By: raydanger
Post Date: 3/6/2006 11:53:42 AM
Body: Whats your favorite, and why??
]]>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:53:42 GMTFavortie Quentin Tarantino FlickQuentin TarantinoWhats your favorite, and why??3/6/2006 11:53:42 AMWhats your favorite, and why?? Spout Group Post: un quote http://www.spout.com/groups/Best_movie_quotes/un_quote/17/184/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: un quote
Group Name: Best movie quotes
Last Post By: divinemsjunebug
Post Date: 1/17/2006 9:06:39 AM
Body: Personally...I never quote movies.
]]>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:06:39 GMTun quoteBest movie quotesPersonally...I never quote movies.1/17/2006 9:06:39 AMPersonally...I never quote movies. Spout Group Post: galactica http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/galactica/4/3/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: galactica
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: Rock
Post Date: 12/15/2005 3:41:00 PM
Body: Battlestar Galactica One of the best sci-fi revivals of all time. Olmos as Adama is quite possibly the best casting decision ever.The only drawback is the season breaks they take in the winter that typically end with a cliff hanger.
]]>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:41:00 GMTgalacticasci-fiBattlestar Galactica One of the best sci-fi revivals of all time. Olmos as Adama is quite possibly the best casting decision ever.The only drawback is the season breaks they take in the winter that typically end with a cliff hanger.12/15/2005 3:41:00 PMBattlestar Galactica One of the best sci-fi revivals of all time. Olmos as Adama is quite possibly the best casting decision ever.The only drawback is the season breaks they take in the winter that typically end with a cliff hanger. Spout Group Post: Can we chat a bit about Bond knockoffs? http://www.spout.com/groups/Bond_Beyond/Can_we_chat_a_bit_about_Bond_knockoffs/10/32/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Can we chat a bit about Bond knockoffs?
Group Name: Bond & Beyond
Last Post By: gothere
Post Date: 12/23/2005 10:00:56 AM
Body: I'm thinking of shows like Get Smart and cartoons like Dangermouse. Anyone remember Nighthawk? The show with the motorcycle that could annihilate a country?
]]>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:00:56 GMTCan we chat a bit about Bond knockoffs?Bond & BeyondI'm thinking of shows like Get Smart and cartoons like Dangermouse. Anyone remember Nighthawk? The show with the motorcycle that could annihilate a country?12/23/2005 10:00:56 AMI'm thinking of shows like Get Smart and cartoons like Dangermouse. Anyone remember Nighthawk? The show with the motorcycle that could annihilate a country? Spout Group Post: SUPERMAN RETURNS - THOUGHTS UPON VIEWING (SOME SPOILERS) http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Imagination_of_Fantasy/SUPERMAN_RETURNS_THOUGHTS_UPON_VIEWING_SOME_SPO/47/1711/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: SUPERMAN RETURNS - THOUGHTS UPON VIEWING (SOME SPOILERS)
Group Name: The Imagination of Fantasy
Last Post By: Indie
Post Date: 7/5/2006 12:11:19 AM
Body: It took me a few days, but I finally saw Superman Returns. I'll reiterate that I was really scared because I love the first Superman with Christopher Reeve and to a slightly lesser extent Superman II (but not III and IV, they were lame). I thought it was-risky-to remake Superman again not too long after Mr. Reeve passed, and, really, I feel like no one else can play Superman as well. Dean Cain sure couldn't do it. And Tom Welling is good, but he's playing teen Superman, so it's not really comparing apples to apples. First off, Brandon Routh allayed all of my fears. He was EXCELLENT. He played Superman with much deference and similarity to Christopher Reeve while still making the character his own. Plus, he's got piercing blue eyes, which is very important. So, that fear was quelled. And Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor? Shut up! He was outstanding. Then again, he almost always is. He was a bit more subtle than Gene Hackman, but I thought he did a fine job. Maniacal, sure. Insane evil genius, sure. But...more subtle. Not subtle outright...just more subtle than Gene Hackman. The weakest character portrayal was Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. She wasn't bad, but she wasn't good either. It could have been the way the character was written, but she just didn't have that spark that Lois Lane needs. She was spunky but kind of flat, I felt. Lovesick to be sure, but, well... The thing I most want to talk about is the biggest spoiler to the whole movie. There is a major plot point to this movie that is both heartwarming but also creates several flaws for me. I mean, in total, the movie was good. Bryan Singer made the film something of an homage to Superman I, using the Marlon Brando sequences (some from the Director's Cut of the first) and lifting lines for the characters to repeat ("I hope this doesn't put you off of flying...it's still, statistically speaking, the safest way to travel"). He even had the scorer use John Williams' core themes, including the entire opening sequence and the same graphics for the credits. It was also an homage to the character as a character, and as a man. There were lots of slomo shots of Superman in flight, saving people, in flight in space, stopping bullets, in flight. His cape billowed in the wind, while his trademark curl stayed perfectly in place. Still a marvel. Oh, and he took Lois on another ride. The basic plot was new and different...which I won't spoil. The biggest thing in the plot, though, blew open a ton of holes and questions. It made me feel like there should've been a movie before this movie, to explain more why Superman left and what happened just prior to him leaving...anyone know what I'm talking about? My biggest issue: this plot thing happened, but Lois still doesn't know that Clark is Superman? Wha???? Still, I think the movie will be mine someday. And I'm sure they've left sequel possibilities wide open. Anyone else seen it who wants to comment?
]]>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 04:11:19 GMTSUPERMAN RETURNS - THOUGHTS UPON VIEWING (SOME SPOILERS)The Imagination of FantasyIt took me a few days, but I finally saw Superman Returns. I'll reiterate that I was really scared because I love the first Superman with Christopher Reeve and to a slightly lesser extent Superman II (but not III and IV, they were lame). I thought it was-risky-to remake Superman again not too long after Mr. Reeve passed, and, really, I feel like no one else can play Superman as well. Dean Cain sure couldn't do it. And Tom Welling is good, but he's playing teen Superman, so it's not really comparing apples to apples. First off, Brandon Routh allayed all of my fears. He was EXCELLENT. He played Superman with much deference and similarity to Christopher Reeve while still making the character his own. Plus, he's got piercing blue eyes, which is very important. So, that fear was quelled. And Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor? Shut up! He was outstanding. Then again, he almost always is. He was a bit more subtle than Gene Hackman, but I thought he did a fine job. Maniacal, sure. Insane evil genius, sure. But...more subtle. Not subtle outright...just more subtle than Gene Hackman. The weakest character portrayal was Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. She wasn't bad, but she wasn't good either. It could have been the way the character was written, but she just didn't have that spark that Lois Lane needs. She was spunky but kind of flat, I felt. Lovesick to be sure, but, well... The thing I most want to talk about is the biggest spoiler to the whole movie. There is a major plot point to this movie that is both heartwarming but also creates several flaws for me. I mean, in total, the movie was good. Bryan Singer made the film something of an homage to Superman I, using the Marlon Brando sequences (some from the Director's Cut of the first) and lifting lines for the characters to repeat ("I hope this doesn't put you off of flying...it's still, statistically speaking, the safest way to travel"). He even had the scorer use John Williams' core themes, including the entire opening sequence and the same graphics for the credits. It was also an homage to the character as a character, and as a man. There were lots of slomo shots of Superman in flight, saving people, in flight in space, stopping bullets, in flight. His cape billowed in the wind, while his trademark curl stayed perfectly in place. Still a marvel. Oh, and he took Lois on another ride. The basic plot was new and different...which I won't spoil. The biggest thing in the plot, though, blew open a ton of holes and questions. It made me feel like there should've been a movie before this movie, to explain more why Superman left and what happened just prior to him leaving...anyone know what I'm talking about? My biggest issue: this plot thing happened, but Lois still doesn't know that Clark is Superman? Wha???? Still, I think the movie will be mine someday. And I'm sure they've left sequel possibilities wide open. Anyone else seen it who wants to comment?7/5/2006 12:11:19 AMIt took me a few days, but I finally saw Superman Returns. I'll reiterate that I was really scared because I love the first Superman with Christopher Reeve and to a slightly lesser extent Superman II (but not III and IV, they were lame). I thought it was-risky-to remake Superman again not too long after Mr. Reeve passed, and, really, I feel like no one else can play Superman as well. Dean Cain sure couldn't do it. And Tom Welling is good, but he's playing teen Superman, so it's not really comparing apples to apples. First off, Brandon Routh allayed all of my fears. He was EXCELLENT. He played Superman with much deference and similarity to Christopher Reeve while still making the character his own. Plus, he's got piercing blue eyes, which is very important. So, that fear was quelled. And Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor? Shut up! He was outstanding. Then again, he almost always is. He was a bit more subtle than Gene Hackman, but I thought he did a fine job. Maniacal, sure. Insane evil genius, sure. But...more subtle. Not subtle outright...just more subtle than Gene Hackman. The weakest character portrayal was Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane. She wasn't bad, but she wasn't good either. It could have been the way the character was written, but she just didn't have that spark that Lois Lane needs. She was spunky but kind of flat, I felt. Lovesick to be sure, but, well... The thing I most want to talk about is the biggest spoiler to the whole movie. There is a major plot point to this movie that is both heartwarming but also creates several flaws for me. I mean, in total, the movie was good. Bryan Singer made the film something of an homage to Superman I, using the Marlon Brando sequences (some from the Director's Cut of the first) and lifting lines for the characters to repeat ("I hope this doesn't put you off of flying...it's still, statistically speaking, the safest way to travel"). He even had the scorer use John Williams' core themes, including the entire opening sequence and the same graphics for the credits. It was also an homage to the character as a character, and as a man. There were lots of slomo shots of Superman in flight, saving people, in flight in space, stopping bullets, in flight. His cape billowed in the wind, while his trademark curl stayed perfectly in place. Still a marvel. Oh, and he took Lois on another ride. The basic plot was new and different...which I won't spoil. The biggest thing in the plot, though, blew open a ton of holes and questions. It made me feel like there should've been a movie before this movie, to explain more why Superman left and what happened just prior to him leaving...anyone know what I'm talking about? My biggest issue: this plot thing happened, but Lois still doesn't know that Clark is Superman? Wha???? Still, I think the movie will be mine someday. And I'm sure they've left sequel possibilities wide open. Anyone else seen it who wants to comment? Spout Group Post: Is the DaVinci Code fantasy? http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Imagination_of_Fantasy/Is_the_DaVinci_Code_fantasy/47/354/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Is the DaVinci Code fantasy?
Group Name: The Imagination of Fantasy
Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 3/8/2006 11:12:01 PM
Body: You will only be able to answer this question if you've read the book. It's the ending and the path to the ending that Robert Langdon takes that could possibly qualify it as fantasy. It's one of the movies I'm most looking forward to seeing this year, but I didn't know if I could call it strict fantasy since it's actually based on very realistic paintings and artwork that actually exist. The effect of that journey, however, is something quite interesting. Anyone read it who wants to comment?
]]>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:12:01 GMTIs the DaVinci Code fantasy?The Imagination of FantasyYou will only be able to answer this question if you've read the book. It's the ending and the path to the ending that Robert Langdon takes that could possibly qualify it as fantasy. It's one of the movies I'm most looking forward to seeing this year, but I didn't know if I could call it strict fantasy since it's actually based on very realistic paintings and artwork that actually exist. The effect of that journey, however, is something quite interesting. Anyone read it who wants to comment?3/8/2006 11:12:01 PMYou will only be able to answer this question if you've read the book. It's the ending and the path to the ending that Robert Langdon takes that could possibly qualify it as fantasy. It's one of the movies I'm most looking forward to seeing this year, but I didn't know if I could call it strict fantasy since it's actually based on very realistic paintings and artwork that actually exist. The effect of that journey, however, is something quite interesting. Anyone read it who wants to comment? Spout Group Post: stolen plots http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Imagination_of_Fantasy/stolen_plots/47/691/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: stolen plots
Group Name: The Imagination of Fantasy
Last Post By: pippin06
Post Date: 3/30/2006 10:01:48 AM
Body: i've noticed that alot of fantasy movies (and some sci-fi) are basically stolen replicas of older films. for instance: sharkboy and lava girl was a rip off of Neverending story. more recently: mirrormask was just another Labyrinth. any others?
]]>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:01:48 GMTstolen plotsThe Imagination of Fantasyi've noticed that alot of fantasy movies (and some sci-fi) are basically stolen replicas of older films. for instance: sharkboy and lava girl was a rip off of Neverending story. more recently: mirrormask was just another Labyrinth. any others?3/30/2006 10:01:48 AMi've noticed that alot of fantasy movies (and some sci-fi) are basically stolen replicas of older films. for instance: sharkboy and lava girl was a rip off of Neverending story. more recently: mirrormask was just another Labyrinth. any others? Spout Group Post: The most attractive male actor http://www.spout.com/groups/I_love_Jim_Carrey/The_most_attractive_male_actor/35/302/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: The most attractive male actor
Group Name: I love Jim Carrey
Last Post By: PammyK
Post Date: 3/6/2006 10:05:28 PM
Body: I am not attracted to many male celebrities. At least...I don't swoon over them like other girls do. Many celebrities are attractive men, but nothing special. Jim Carrey on the other hand is a hunk.
]]>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:05:28 GMTThe most attractive male actorI love Jim CarreyI am not attracted to many male celebrities. At least...I don't swoon over them like other girls do. Many celebrities are attractive men, but nothing special. Jim Carrey on the other hand is a hunk.3/6/2006 10:05:28 PMI am not attracted to many male celebrities. At least...I don't swoon over them like other girls do. Many celebrities are attractive men, but nothing special. Jim Carrey on the other hand is a hunk. Spout Group Post: Fantasy vs. Science Fiction, a thought http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Imagination_of_Fantasy/Fantasy_vs_Science_Fiction_a_thought/47/272/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Fantasy vs. Science Fiction, a thought
Group Name: The Imagination of Fantasy
Last Post By: pippin06
Post Date: 3/4/2006 4:25:30 PM
Body: You will notice that much of the general fantasy list could easily be relegated to some science fiction category (of which I know at least one) here at Spout. My thought - isn't science fiction really fantasy? Or a subset thereof. Fantasy is defined at www.dictionary.com this way: The creative imagination; unrestrained fancy. See Synonyms at imagination. Something, such as an invention, that is a creation of the fancy. A capricious or fantastic idea; a conceit. Fiction characterized by highly fanciful or supernatural elements. An example of such fiction. An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need. An unrealistic or improbable supposition. Music. See fantasia. A coin issued especially by a questionable authority and not intended for use as currency. Obsolete. A hallucination. Science fiction is defined at www.dictionary.com this way: n. A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background. -or- n : literary fantasy involving the imagined impact of science on society. That pretty much defines it for me.
]]>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:25:30 GMTFantasy vs. Science Fiction, a thoughtThe Imagination of FantasyYou will notice that much of the general fantasy list could easily be relegated to some science fiction category (of which I know at least one) here at Spout. My thought - isn't science fiction really fantasy? Or a subset thereof. Fantasy is defined at www.dictionary.com this way: The creative imagination; unrestrained fancy. See Synonyms at imagination. Something, such as an invention, that is a creation of the fancy. A capricious or fantastic idea; a conceit. Fiction characterized by highly fanciful or supernatural elements. An example of such fiction. An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need. An unrealistic or improbable supposition. Music. See fantasia. A coin issued especially by a questionable authority and not intended for use as currency. Obsolete. A hallucination. Science fiction is defined at www.dictionary.com this way: n. A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background. -or- n : literary fantasy involving the imagined impact of science on society. That pretty much defines it for me.3/4/2006 4:25:30 PMYou will notice that much of the general fantasy list could easily be relegated to some science fiction category (of which I know at least one) here at Spout. My thought - isn't science fiction really fantasy? Or a subset thereof. Fantasy is defined at www.dictionary.com this way: The creative imagination; unrestrained fancy. See Synonyms at imagination. Something, such as an invention, that is a creation of the fancy. A capricious or fantastic idea; a conceit. Fiction characterized by highly fanciful or supernatural elements. An example of such fiction. An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need. An unrealistic or improbable supposition. Music. See fantasia. A coin issued especially by a questionable authority and not intended for use as currency. Obsolete. A hallucination. Science fiction is defined at www.dictionary.com this way: n. A literary or cinematic genre in which fantasy, typically based on speculative scientific discoveries or developments, environmental changes, space travel, or life on other planets, forms part of the plot or background. -or- n : literary fantasy involving the imagined impact of science on society. That pretty much defines it for me. Spout Group Post: what? http://www.spout.com/groups/nusoft/what/69/529/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: what?
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Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 3/21/2006 4:19:12 PM
Body: what is this film? has anyone seen the series?
]]>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:19:12 GMTwhat?nusoftwhat is this film? has anyone seen the series?3/21/2006 4:19:12 PMwhat is this film? has anyone seen the series? Spout Group Post: bad teen acting http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/bad_teen_acting/4/493/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: bad teen acting
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 3/17/2006 9:56:09 PM
Body: the teen john connor couldn't act to save his life. this could have been an awesome addition to the terminator series, but the boys acting is atrocious. oh well... the T1000 was cool.
]]>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:56:09 GMTbad teen actingsci-fithe teen john connor couldn't act to save his life. this could have been an awesome addition to the terminator series, but the boys acting is atrocious. oh well... the T1000 was cool.3/17/2006 9:56:09 PMthe teen john connor couldn't act to save his life. this could have been an awesome addition to the terminator series, but the boys acting is atrocious. oh well... the T1000 was cool. Spout Group Post: Other Tim Burton movies? http://www.spout.com/groups/Tim_Burton/Other_Tim_Burton_movies/39/392/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Other Tim Burton movies?
Group Name: Tim Burton
Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 3/10/2006 12:11:50 PM
Body: I saw the movie Big Fish and I really liked it. Its not as creepy as some other Tim Burton films, but very mysterious and eccentric. Does anyone know any other Tim Burton films similar to Big Fish?
]]>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:11:50 GMTOther Tim Burton movies?Tim BurtonI saw the movie Big Fish and I really liked it. Its not as creepy as some other Tim Burton films, but very mysterious and eccentric. Does anyone know any other Tim Burton films similar to Big Fish?3/10/2006 12:11:50 PMI saw the movie Big Fish and I really liked it. Its not as creepy as some other Tim Burton films, but very mysterious and eccentric. Does anyone know any other Tim Burton films similar to Big Fish? Spout Group Post: saw the third trailer today http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/saw_the_third_trailer_today/4/441/1/ShowPost.aspx Post Subject: saw the third trailer today
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Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 3/14/2006 2:20:57 AM
Body: apple had the third trailer up and i'm very anxious for this to come out. its going to be amazing.
]]>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:20:57 GMTsaw the third trailer todaysci-fiapple had the third trailer up and i'm very anxious for this to come out. its going to be amazing.3/14/2006 2:20:57 AMapple had the third trailer up and i'm very anxious for this to come out. its going to be amazing. Spout Group Post: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and The Nightmare Before Christmas http://www.spout.com/groups/Tim_Burton/Charlie_and_the_Chocolate_Factory_and_The_Nightmar/39/240/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and The Nightmare Before Christmas
Group Name: Tim Burton
Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 2/28/2006 5:15:17 PM
Body: I hate scary movies. I loved The Nightmare Before Christmas, in the same way that I love haunted corn mazes. I recently watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory which was almost as creepy as The Nightmare Before Christmas, and I loved it too. I don't watch that many movies and I don't claim to be a Tim Burton expert, but I think...that I like Tim Burton Movies.Here's my problem. Someone recently pointed out to me that Tim Burton may be be exploiting evil. Do I really want my future children watching cute dolls burning up and losing their eyeballs and Santa being tortued in a "hell like" place? Are Tim Burton movies just too evil...or are they creepy done just right?
]]>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:15:17 GMTCharlie and the Chocolate Factory and The Nightmare Before ChristmasTim BurtonI hate scary movies. I loved The Nightmare Before Christmas, in the same way that I love haunted corn mazes. I recently watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory which was almost as creepy as The Nightmare Before Christmas, and I loved it too. I don't watch that many movies and I don't claim to be a Tim Burton expert, but I think...that I like Tim Burton Movies.Here's my problem. Someone recently pointed out to me that Tim Burton may be be exploiting evil. Do I really want my future children watching cute dolls burning up and losing their eyeballs and Santa being tortued in a "hell like" place? Are Tim Burton movies just too evil...or are they creepy done just right?2/28/2006 5:15:17 PMI hate scary movies. I loved The Nightmare Before Christmas, in the same way that I love haunted corn mazes. I recently watched Charlie and the Chocolate Factory which was almost as creepy as The Nightmare Before Christmas, and I loved it too. I don't watch that many movies and I don't claim to be a Tim Burton expert, but I think...that I like Tim Burton Movies.Here's my problem. Someone recently pointed out to me that Tim Burton may be be exploiting evil. Do I really want my future children watching cute dolls burning up and losing their eyeballs and Santa being tortued in a "hell like" place? Are Tim Burton movies just too evil...or are they creepy done just right? Spout Group Post: Reflections on Battlestar Galactica (new series) http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/Reflections_on_Battlestar_Galactica_new_series/4/146/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: Reflections on Battlestar Galactica (new series)
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: MikePerry
Post Date: 1/8/2006 2:24:35 AM
Body: (mild spoilers. proceed at your own risk!) alrighty. so i finished watching the new episode (2-11) of the second session of season two. it was interesting. I loved the introduction of the "Resurrection ship." Wasn't expecting that. But what i want to talk about isnt so much the plot or the events of this particular episode, but rather the "direction" that the show is going. Is it me, or are the writers trying REALLY hard to get the viewer to sympathize with cylons? Isn't that weird, that we're all starting to hate Admiral Cain for her aggressive hatred of cylons and appreciate Adama's apology to the cylon Sharon that they have in the brig? The attempted "rape" scene in the first half of the season was an ugly display of humanity, but you have to ask yourself - "is it possible to 'rape' a machine?" Wow..that sounds really gross. Moving on. And the show also tried to make us feel sorry for the cylon that they fed to the airlock. Come on! They're frackin' machines! They are robots. Toasters. The more I watch the show, the more I realize that I'm forgetting that the cylons are the enemy. And I'm starting to feel sorry for some of them? What? That would be like the Jews feeling bad for Nazi's. "Sure you tried to eliminate our entire race, but it's o.k. cause i realize now that you have feelings too." No way. The cylons should be terminated, down to the very last one. They obliterated the original colonies (billions dead, btw) , leaving only a handful of stragglers that fled to the safety of space. So I don't hate Cain for her hatred of cylons. I don't appreciate what she did to the civilian ships and their families and she'll hopefully fry for that. But you can't blame her for terminating a few toasters. Sure the cylons are made up of biological parts and now have the appearance of a "humanoid." We didnt feel so bad for them, when they were the older "tin-can" model. Now they're 'almost' human. But in the end they're 100% evil. I don't feel sorry for them just because they have a state of biological existence. So do chickens and I eat them.
]]>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 07:24:35 GMTReflections on Battlestar Galactica (new series)sci-fi(mild spoilers. proceed at your own risk!) alrighty. so i finished watching the new episode (2-11) of the second session of season two. it was interesting. I loved the introduction of the "Resurrection ship." Wasn't expecting that. But what i want to talk about isnt so much the plot or the events of this particular episode, but rather the "direction" that the show is going. Is it me, or are the writers trying REALLY hard to get the viewer to sympathize with cylons? Isn't that weird, that we're all starting to hate Admiral Cain for her aggressive hatred of cylons and appreciate Adama's apology to the cylon Sharon that they have in the brig? The attempted "rape" scene in the first half of the season was an ugly display of humanity, but you have to ask yourself - "is it possible to 'rape' a machine?" Wow..that sounds really gross. Moving on. And the show also tried to make us feel sorry for the cylon that they fed to the airlock. Come on! They're frackin' machines! They are robots. Toasters. The more I watch the show, the more I realize that I'm forgetting that the cylons are the enemy. And I'm starting to feel sorry for some of them? What? That would be like the Jews feeling bad for Nazi's. "Sure you tried to eliminate our entire race, but it's o.k. cause i realize now that you have feelings too." No way. The cylons should be terminated, down to the very last one. They obliterated the original colonies (billions dead, btw) , leaving only a handful of stragglers that fled to the safety of space. So I don't hate Cain for her hatred of cylons. I don't appreciate what she did to the civilian ships and their families and she'll hopefully fry for that. But you can't blame her for terminating a few toasters. Sure the cylons are made up of biological parts and now have the appearance of a "humanoid." We didnt feel so bad for them, when they were the older "tin-can" model. Now they're 'almost' human. But in the end they're 100% evil. I don't feel sorry for them just because they have a state of biological existence. So do chickens and I eat them.1/8/2006 2:24:35 AM(mild spoilers. proceed at your own risk!) alrighty. so i finished watching the new episode (2-11) of the second session of season two. it was interesting. I loved the introduction of the "Resurrection ship." Wasn't expecting that. But what i want to talk about isnt so much the plot or the events of this particular episode, but rather the "direction" that the show is going. Is it me, or are the writers trying REALLY hard to get the viewer to sympathize with cylons? Isn't that weird, that we're all starting to hate Admiral Cain for her aggressive hatred of cylons and appreciate Adama's apology to the cylon Sharon that they have in the brig? The attempted "rape" scene in the first half of the season was an ugly display of humanity, but you have to ask yourself - "is it possible to 'rape' a machine?" Wow..that sounds really gross. Moving on. And the show also tried to make us feel sorry for the cylon that they fed to the airlock. Come on! They're frackin' machines! They are robots. Toasters. The more I watch the show, the more I realize that I'm forgetting that the cylons are the enemy. And I'm starting to feel sorry for some of them? What? That would be like the Jews feeling bad for Nazi's. "Sure you tried to eliminate our entire race, but it's o.k. cause i realize now that you have feelings too." No way. The cylons should be terminated, down to the very last one. They obliterated the original colonies (billions dead, btw) , leaving only a handful of stragglers that fled to the safety of space. So I don't hate Cain for her hatred of cylons. I don't appreciate what she did to the civilian ships and their families and she'll hopefully fry for that. But you can't blame her for terminating a few toasters. Sure the cylons are made up of biological parts and now have the appearance of a "humanoid." We didnt feel so bad for them, when they were the older "tin-can" model. Now they're 'almost' human. But in the end they're 100% evil. I don't feel sorry for them just because they have a state of biological existence. So do chickens and I eat them. Spout Group Post: 2006 - Movies to watch http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/2006_Movies_to_watch/4/148/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: 2006 - Movies to watch
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 1/9/2006 2:33:15 PM
Body: What are the movies that you are most looking forward to this year?
]]>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 19:33:15 GMT2006 - Movies to watchsci-fiWhat are the movies that you are most looking forward to this year?1/9/2006 2:33:15 PMWhat are the movies that you are most looking forward to this year? Spout Group Post: joss whedon http://www.spout.com/groups/sci_fi/joss_whedon/4/28/1/ShowPost.aspxPost Subject: joss whedon
Group Name: sci-fi
Last Post By: bishop
Post Date: 12/22/2005 11:47:30 PM
Body: "Entertainment Weekly is reporting on the end of Firefly." From the article: "Alas, Whedon's fond memories are also tainted by Serenity's status as a franchise nonstarter; despite Universal's best marketing efforts, the film only mustered $25 million. 'In the end, it was what it was: a tough sell,' says Whedon, adding that it appears the Firefly saga has reached its conclusion. He has no regrets -- and he's moving on." well crap. i really liked the series. sure it was a stretch of the imagination to envision "space ships and offworld dude ranches" but thats o.k. Not any more unbelievable than most sci-fi out there.
]]>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 04:47:30 GMTjoss whedon sci-fi"Entertainment Weekly is reporting on the end of Firefly." From the article: "Alas, Whedon's fond memories are also tainted by Serenity's status as a franchise nonstarter; despite Universal's best marketing efforts, the film only mustered $25 million. 'In the end, it was what it was: a tough sell,' says Whedon, adding that it appears the Firefly saga has reached its conclusion. He has no regrets -- and he's moving on." well crap. i really liked the series. sure it was a stretch of the imagination to envision "space ships and offworld dude ranches" but thats o.k. Not any more unbelievable than most sci-fi out there.12/22/2005 11:47:30 PM"Entertainment Weekly is reporting on the end of Firefly." From the article: "Alas, Whedon's fond memories are also tainted by Serenity's status as a franchise nonstarter; despite Universal's best marketing efforts, the film only mustered $25 million. 'In the end, it was what it was: a tough sell,' says Whedon, adding that it appears the Firefly saga has reached its conclusion. He has no regrets -- and he's moving on." well crap. i really liked the series. sure it was a stretch of the imagination to envision "space ships and offworld dude ranches" but thats o.k. Not any more unbelievable than most sci-fi out there.