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Year: 1978
Director: Michael Cimino
Plot: One of several 1978 films dealing with the Vietnam War (including Hal Ashby's Oscar-winning Coming Home), Michael Cimino's epic second feature The Deer Hunter was both renowned for its tough portrayal of the war's effect on American working class steel workers and notorious for its ahistorical use of Russian roulette in the Vietnam sequences. Structured in five sections contrasting home and war, the film opens in Clairton, PA, as Mike (Robert De Niro), Nick (Christopher Walken), and Stan (John Cazale, in his last film) celebrate the wedding of their friend Steve (John Savage) and go on a final deer hunt before the men leave for Vietnam. Mike treats hunting as a test of skill, lecturing Stan about the value of "one shot" deer slaying and brushing off Nick's urgings to appreciate nature's beauty. As Mike ruminates post-hunt, the film cuts to the horror of Vietnam, where the men are captured by Vietcong soldiers who force Mike and Nick to play Russian roulette for the V.C.'s amusement. Mike turns the game to his advantage so they can escape captivity, but the men are permanently scarred by the episode. Steve loses his legs; Nick vanishes in the Saigon Russian roulette parlors. Mike returns alone to Clairton a changed man, as he rejects the killing of the deer hunt and finds solace with Nick's old girlfriend Linda (Meryl Streep). Disgusted by the antics of his male cohorts at home, Mike decides to bring Steve back from a veterans' hospital, and he returns to Saigon to find Nick. As Saigon falls, Mike discovers how far gone Nick is; the survivors gather in Clairton for a funeral breakfast, singing an impromptu rendition of "God Bless America." ~ Lucia Bozzola, All Movie Guide
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]]>Tue, 12 May 2009 03:57:42 GMTThe Deer Hunter1978Michael CiminoOne of several 1978 films dealing with the Vietnam War (including <a href="/players/P____80067/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Hal Ashby</a>'s Oscar-winning <a href=/films/6788/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Coming Home</a>), <a href="/players/P____85067/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Michael Cimino</a>'s epic second feature The Deer Hunter was both renowned for its tough portrayal of the war's effect on American working class steel workers and notorious for its ahistorical use of Russian roulette in the Vietnam sequences. Structured in five sections contrasting home and war, the film opens in Clairton, PA, as Mike (<a href="/players/P____17593/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Robert De Niro</a>), Nick (<a href="/players/P____74206/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Christopher Walken</a>), and Stan (<a href="/players/P____11919/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Cazale</a>, in his last film) celebrate the wedding of their friend Steve (<a href="/players/P____63326/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Savage</a>) and go on a final deer hunt before the men leave for Vietnam. Mike treats hunting as a test of skill, lecturing Stan about the value of "one shot" deer slaying and brushing off Nick's urgings to appreciate nature's beauty. As Mike ruminates post-hunt, the film cuts to the horror of Vietnam, where the men are captured by Vietcong soldiers who force Mike and Nick to play Russian roulette for the V.C.'s amusement. Mike turns the game to his advantage so they can escape captivity, but the men are permanently scarred by the episode. Steve loses his legs; Nick vanishes in the Saigon Russian roulette parlors. Mike returns alone to Clairton a changed man, as he rejects the killing of the deer hunt and finds solace with Nick's old girlfriend Linda (<a href="/players/P____68676/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Meryl Streep</a>). Disgusted by the antics of his male cohorts at home, Mike decides to bring Steve back from a veterans' hospital, and he returns to Saigon to find Nick. As Saigon falls, Mike discovers how far gone Nick is; the survivors gather in Clairton for a funeral breakfast, singing an impromptu rendition of "God Bless America." ~ Lucia Bozzola, All Movie Guide29Tag Target (>10)54533http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u03182gm7uc.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/The_Deer_Hunter/8589/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/11/7/37067.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Body: Opening today, Soul Men features the final performance from Bernie Mac, who died unexpectedly on August 9. The movie also includes a cameo from Isaac Hayes, who died one day later. Both men join a long list of people whose last films were released after their deaths, a list that includes Brad Renfro, whose final performance, in The Informers, can be seen in theaters come next May. Unlike some names on that list, Bernie Mac, whose voice can also be heard in the new animated sequel Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa, isn’t likely to receive a posthumous Oscar nomination as a tribute to his final work. But as one of the most underrated comic actors of the past few years, Mac likely gives a great performance as soul singer “Floyd Henderson,” enough to fall in with the crop of posthumously released roles we’ve showcased below: 1. Spencer Tracy in Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner Tracy died from a heart attack June 10, 1967, a couple weeks after finishing his work on Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner, which was released that December. It would end up one of his most distinguished performances, earning him a posthumous ninth Oscar nom for Lead Actor. 2. James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause Dean received two posthumous Oscar nominations, but it’s easy to forget that neither of them were for Rebel Without a Cause, despite the film being Dean’s first posthumous release. Were it possible under the Academy’s rules, Dean could have been nominated for playing iconic teen Jim Stark, but he was instead recognized solely for East of Eden (the first official posthumous Oscar nomination for acting), which had been released a few months prior to Dean’s accidental death. Meanwhile Dean’s costars in Rebel, Sal Mineo and Natalie Wood, were each nominated for this film. 3. James Dean in Giant This film became Dean’s second posthumous release and earned him his second posthumous Oscar nomination (he won neither). The actor had pretty much finished his work on Giant right before his death, though some post-production vocal work had to be performed by a substitute later on, and the film wasn’t to come out in theaters until two months after the first anniversary of Dean’s death. 4. Clark Gable in The Misfits Like the death of Heath Ledger (see below), Gable’s was blamed on the demands of a role. Whether his performance in The Misfits was too physically demanding or he experienced immense tension from lack of things to do or he lost too much weight too quickly to prepare for the film, there may not have been one single thing that led to his having his third heart attack and then ultimately succumbing to coronary thrombosis mere weeks after finishing up principal photography. A few months later, on Gable’s birthday, his performance was unveiled to the world, and while not as historically remembered as his characters in Gone With the Wind and It Happened One Night, nor one of his three Oscar-nominated roles, it is arguably his greatest work. 5. John Cazale in The Deer Hunter Cazale should have been honored with a posthumous Oscar nomination at some point (I can’t believe I left him off that list), if for no other reason than to recognize his achievement of acting solely in features nominated for Best Picture (including The Godfather Part III, in which he’s only shown in archive footage). But an even bigger reason is that Cazale was a damn good supporting actor and he actually would deserve that statue. For all the talent he displays in The Deer Hunter, though, he was easily upstaged by his costar Christopher Walken, who actually took home the Oscar. 6. Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon There are tons of artists who didn’t live long enough to see their work become huge successes. Unlike most of them, though, Lee at least experienced some level of stardom prior to his death on July 20, 1973. Unfortunately, he didn’t get to see his final film, Enter the Dragon, open to huge numbers in the U.S., eventually even topping the box office chart here after a few months in theaters. He also tragically never got to see how iconic, influential and culturally significant his performance would become. 7. Brandon Lee in The Crow Bruce Lee also never got to see his son grow up to have a #1 movie, too. Sadly, neither did the son, Brandon, who died accidentally from a malfunctioned prop gun on the set of The Crow. And while the star’s then-mysterious death may have helped to make the movie more popular than would otherwise have been expected, it’s primarily Lee’s performance, not his legacy, that has allowed the movie to remain worthwhile viewing 15 years later. Even if some of that performance was assisted through a controversial yet groundbreaking use of stunt doubles and digital effects. 8. Richard Harris in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets There have now been more Harry Potter films released in which Michael Gambon portrays Albus Dumbledore, yet Harris will forever be remembered more clearly and favorably in the role. Even those of us who like Gambon as the Hogwarts headmasterhave more vivid memories of Harris’ performances in both Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, the latter of which arrived in theaters less than three weeks after the actor’s death on October 25, 2002. Surely some fans would have preferred to see Harris reprise his role in the subsequent films courtesy of effects wizardry similar to that done in The Crow and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (see below). 9. Laurence Olivier in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow It may have been morally wrong for Kerry Conran to digitally create a villainous performance from Olivier 15 years after the legendary actor’s death, but who doesn’t want to keep getting new performances from such a master thespian, even if it it technically consists of nothing but archive footage? Besides, it’s still better than making him posthumously hawk beer, vacuum cleaners, or McDonalds cheeseburgers. Too bad the film as a whole was such a disappointment. 10. Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight His performance as The Joker is better than anyone ever dreamed it would be, before or after he died suddenly last January. He’ll get an Oscar nomination, at least, and will probably even win. Will his final performance, in The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, yet to be seen or released, be as remarkable? It’s quite possible that if this list is ever rewritten in the future that Ledger will join Dean as another actor with two slots, for two monumentally great performances released posthumously. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:01:08 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com11/7/2008 3:01:08 PMOpening today, Soul Men features the final performance from Bernie Mac, who died unexpectedly on August 9. The movie also includes a cameo from Isaac Hayes, who died one day later. Both men join a long list of people whose last films were released after their deaths, a list that includes Brad Renfro, whose final performance, in The Informers, can be seen in theaters come next May. Unlike some names on that list, Bernie Mac, whose voice can also be heard in the new animated sequel Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa, isn’t likely to receive a posthumous Oscar nomination as a tribute to his final work. But as one of the most underrated comic actors of the past few years, Mac likely gives a great performance as soul singer “Floyd Henderson,” enough to fall in with the crop of posthumously released roles we’ve showcased below: 1. Spencer Tracy in Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner Tracy died from a heart attack June 10, 1967, a couple weeks after finishing his work on Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner, which was released that December. It would end up one of his most distinguished performances, earning him a posthumous ninth Oscar nom for Lead Actor. 2. James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause Dean received two posthumous Oscar nominations, but it’s easy to forget that neither of them were for Rebel Without a Cause, despite the film being Dean’s first posthumous release. Were it possible under the Academy’s rules, Dean could have been nominated for playing iconic teen Jim Stark, but he was instead recognized solely for East of Eden (the first official posthumous Oscar nomination for acting), which had been released a few months prior to Dean’s accidental death. Meanwhile Dean’s costars in Rebel, Sal Mineo and Natalie Wood, were each nominated for this film. 3. James Dean in Giant This film became Dean’s second posthumous release and earned him his second posthumous Oscar nomination (he won neither). The actor had pretty much finished his work on Giant right before his death, though some post-production vocal work had to be performed by a substitute later on, and the film wasn’t to come out in theaters until two months after the first anniversary of Dean’s death. 4. Clark Gable in The Misfits Like the death of Heath Ledger (see below), Gable’s was blamed on the demands of a role. Whether his performance in The Misfits was too physically demanding or he experienced immense tension from lack of things to do or he lost too much weight too quickly to prepare for the film, there may not have been one single thing that led to his having his third heart attack and then ultimately succumbing to coronary thrombosis mere weeks after finishing up principal photography. A few months later, on Gable’s birthday, his performance was unveiled to the world, and while not as historically remembered as his characters in Gone With the Wind and It Happened One Night, nor one of his three Oscar-nominated roles, it is arguably his greatest work. 5. John Cazale in The Deer Hunter Cazale should have been honored with a posthumous Oscar nomination at some point (I can’t believe I left him off that list), if for no other reason than to recognize his achievement of acting solely in features nominated for Best Picture (including The Godfather Part III, in which he’s only shown in archive footage). But an even bigger reason is that Cazale was a damn good supporting actor and he actually would deserve that statue. For all the talent he displays in The Deer Hunter, though, he was easily upstaged by his costar Christopher Walken, who actually took home the Oscar. 6. Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon There are tons of artists who didn’t live long enough to see their work become huge successes. Unlike most of them, though, Lee at least experienced some level of stardom prior to his death on July 20, 1973. Unfortunately, he didn’t get to see his final film, Enter the Dragon, open to huge numbers in the U.S., eventually even topping the box office chart here after a few months in theaters. He also tragically never got to see how iconic, influential and culturally significant his performance would become. 7. Brandon Lee in The Crow Bruce Lee also never got to see his son grow up to have a #1 movie, too. Sadly, neither did the son, Brandon, who died accidentally from a malfunctioned prop gun on the set of The Crow. And while the star’s then-mysterious death may have helped to make the movie more popular than would otherwise have been expected, it’s primarily Lee’s performance, not his legacy, that has allowed the movie to remain worthwhile viewing 15 years later. Even if some of that performance was assisted through a controversial yet groundbreaking use of stunt doubles and digital effects. 8. Richard Harris in Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets There have now been more Harry Potter films released in which Michael Gambon portrays Albus Dumbledore, yet Harris will forever be remembered more clearly and favorably in the role. Even those of us who like Gambon as the Hogwarts headmasterhave more vivid memories of Harris’ performances in both Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone and Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, the latter of which arrived in theaters less than three weeks after the actor’s death on October 25, 2002. Surely some fans would have preferred to see Harris reprise his role in the subsequent films courtesy of effects wizardry similar to that done in The Crow and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow (see below). 9. Laurence Olivier in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow It may have been morally wrong for Kerry Conran to digitally create a villainous performance from Olivier 15 years after the legendary actor’s death, but who doesn’t want to keep getting new performances from such a master thespian, even if it it technically consists of nothing but archive footage? Besides, it’s still better than making him posthumously hawk beer, vacuum cleaners, or McDonalds cheeseburgers. Too bad the film as a whole was such a disappointment. 10. Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight His performance as The Joker is better than anyone ever dreamed it would be, before or after he died suddenly last January. He’ll get an Oscar nomination, at least, and will probably even win. Will his final performance, in The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, yet to be seen or released, be as remarkable? It’s quite possible that if this list is ever rewritten in the future that Ledger will join Dean as another actor with two slots, for two monumentally great performances released posthumously. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_August_4_Let_s_Talk_About_Sex/625/33619/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: SkyPilot
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Body: What does sex signify in cinema? A lot. Just for starters... It shows one's capacity for human connectedness in The Deer Hunter (I'm thinking of when Deniro is eventually able to have sex with Meryl Streep). The sex act is a prize to be seized in Superbad and a crillion other films. Does this count as an obsession? Sometimes it's a blatant obsession, such as in Quills. Or one of the trappings of success, like in Jerry Maguire. It shows one's awakening from apathy and absurd constrainst in Zardoz.
]]>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:53:27 GMTSkyPilotWeekly Theme8/6/2008 9:53:27 AMWhat does sex signify in cinema? A lot. Just for starters... It shows one's capacity for human connectedness in The Deer Hunter (I'm thinking of when Deniro is eventually able to have sex with Meryl Streep). The sex act is a prize to be seized in Superbad and a crillion other films. Does this count as an obsession? Sometimes it's a blatant obsession, such as in Quills. Or one of the trappings of success, like in Jerry Maguire. It shows one's awakening from apathy and absurd constrainst in Zardoz. http://www.spout.com/blogs/downwest/archive/2007/12/13/22779.aspx Post By: downwest
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Body: One of the deepest war movies I've seen. De Niro, Walkens, and Streep were exceptional members of this large cast. In its full scope, The Deer Hunter is a high art amongst all of the war films made. This is one of the few war films that actually affected me emotionally. What war does to people, by it's very nature, like Russian Roulette, is truly, truly tragic. Shows that some are naturally capable of handling the burdens of combat, and some aren't, and for the ones that can't handle it, well...
]]>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:13:09 GMTdownwestdownwest Blog12/13/2007 11:13:09 AMOne of the deepest war movies I&#39;ve seen. De Niro, Walkens, and Streep were exceptional members of this large cast. In its full scope, The Deer Hunter is a high art amongst all of the war films made. This is one of the few war films that actually affected me emotionally. What war does to people, by it&#39;s very nature, like Russian Roulette, is truly, truly tragic. Shows that some are naturally capable of handling the burdens of combat, and some aren&#39;t, and for the ones that can&#39;t handle it, well... http://www.spout.com/blogs/discernment/archive/2007/10/25/21163.aspx Post By: discernment
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Post Date: 10/25/2007 1:07:48 AM
Body: I just finished watching this film for the first time, a truly heart wrenching story that tares apart a loveable group of characters. I have never felt so horrible after watching a movie as this one. I will admit that I hardly cried, but I still felt like shit. The characters that Michael Cimino created are so completely flesh and blood that it's hard to get past the fact that this movie was in the hands of a screen writer the entire time.That said, through the scenes of Russian roulette I had to remind myself that it was just a movie, and the entire fate of all the characters was in the hands of a screenwriter. The fact that the characters were in the hands of a screenwriter didn't really matter on one of the final scenes. I could only think that this screenwriter has his motives, and the characters are going to meet an inevitable fate.All of the performances were solid, and whenever I asked myself if a scene was working... the answer was always a pure yes. I think that I loved almost every aspect of this film.The only thing I would critique and say I would change would be the real life footage. It was kind of interesting that Cimino re-created these scenes from real footage, but the idea of dubbing in the real footage over the re-shot footage kind of dis orients the main focus or direction of the film, and I personally feel as though the audience may get into the wrong perspective with the true footage.Other than that small fact, I believed this movie to be almost flawless. Periods of slowness, and a non-directional material from the beginning are very minor on the scale of this great movie. I really love it.
]]>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:07:48 GMTdiscernmentdiscernment Blog10/25/2007 1:07:48 AMI just finished watching this film for the first time, a truly heart wrenching story that tares apart a loveable group of characters. I have never felt so horrible after watching a movie as this one. I will admit that I hardly cried, but I still felt like shit. The characters that Michael Cimino created are so completely flesh and blood that it&#39;s hard to get past the fact that this movie was in the hands of a screen writer the entire time.That said, through the scenes of Russian roulette I had to remind myself that it was just a movie, and the entire fate of all the characters was in the hands of a screenwriter. The fact that the characters were in the hands of a screenwriter didn&#39;t really matter on one of the final scenes. I could only think that this screenwriter has his motives, and the characters are going to meet an inevitable fate.All of the performances were solid, and whenever I asked myself if a scene was working... the answer was always a pure yes. I think that I loved almost every aspect of this film.The only thing I would critique and say I would change would be the real life footage. It was kind of interesting that Cimino re-created these scenes from real footage, but the idea of dubbing in the real footage over the re-shot footage kind of dis orients the main focus or direction of the film, and I personally feel as though the audience may get into the wrong perspective with the true footage.Other than that small fact, I believed this movie to be almost flawless. Periods of slowness, and a non-directional material from the beginning are very minor on the scale of this great movie. I really love it. http://www.spout.com/blogs/chesterfilms/archive/2007/5/13/8711.aspx Post By: chesterfilms
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Post Date: 5/13/2007 9:55:16 PM
Body: 1. Apocalypse Now - It's not only my favorite war film, but one of my favorite films period. It's hard to say anything about this film that hasn't already been said many times before. It's just perfect from the direction, writing, cast and soundtrack. The Ride Of The Valkyries scenes is still one of the greatest ever filmed. 2. The Deer Hunter - A heartbreaking film that's got one of the greatest cast ever assembled. The Russian Roulette scene goes under my top 5 uncomfortable moments. 3. Saving Private Ryan - I know many people consider this to be way overrated, but it's a film that left such an imprint on me. 4. The Thin Red Line - As with all of Malick's films, Thin Red Line is a sobering and contemplative masterpiece. 5. All Quiet On The Western Front - Told from a completely different point of view than most other War films. This thing holds like crazy! Here are some honorable mentions that almost made my Top 5: Overlord Full Metal Jacket Paths Of Glory
]]>Mon, 14 May 2007 01:55:16 GMTchesterfilmschesterfilms Blog5/13/2007 9:55:16 PM1. Apocalypse Now - It&#39;s not only my favorite war film, but one of my favorite films period. It&#39;s hard to say anything about this film that hasn&#39;t already been said many times before. It&#39;s just perfect from the direction, writing, cast and soundtrack. The Ride Of The Valkyries scenes is still one of the greatest ever filmed. 2. The Deer Hunter - A heartbreaking film that&#39;s got one of the greatest cast ever assembled. The Russian Roulette scene goes under my top 5 uncomfortable moments. 3. Saving Private Ryan - I know many people consider this to be way overrated, but it&#39;s a film that left such an imprint on me. 4. The Thin Red Line - As with all of Malick&#39;s films, Thin Red Line is a sobering and contemplative masterpiece. 5. All Quiet On The Western Front - Told from a completely different point of view than most other War films. This thing holds like crazy! Here are some honorable mentions that almost made my Top 5: Overlord Full Metal Jacket Paths Of Glory http://www.spout.com/blogs/hairylime/archive/2007/3/13/6325.aspx Post By: HairyLime
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Post Date: 3/13/2007 10:04:00 PM
Body: Unusual Clint Eastwood vehicle, in that he participates in an ensemble cast rather than being the sole focus of the plot. A combination Road Movie/Buddy Picture/Caper Film that I was drawn to after researching the 1974 oscar race, and noticing Jeff Bridges nominated for his role in this film. Michael Cimino puts together a tight, well-paced character study with occasional surreal touches (what's up with the guy with a trunkload of white rabbits?) that carries none of the pretentious baggage and extraneous backstory that plagued his Deer Hunter/Heaven's Gate years. George Kennedy puts in a fine performance as an ex partner of Eastwood's with a huge chip on his shoulder, and Jeff Bridges puts in another in what would eventually prove to be a long career of underappreciated character roles. Also a good 'downer' ending that could only have come from the seventies. Other good 'caper gone wrong' movies that I also enjoy: Kubrick's The Killing, The Hot Rock, The Asphalt Jungle
]]>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:04:00 GMTHairyLimeHairyLime Blog3/13/2007 10:04:00 PMUnusual Clint Eastwood vehicle, in that he participates in an ensemble cast rather than being the sole focus of the plot. A combination Road Movie/Buddy Picture/Caper Film that I was drawn to after researching the 1974 oscar race, and noticing Jeff Bridges nominated for his role in this film. Michael Cimino puts together a tight, well-paced character study with occasional surreal touches (what&#39;s up with the guy with a trunkload of white rabbits?) that carries none of the pretentious baggage and extraneous backstory that plagued his Deer Hunter/Heaven&#39;s Gate years. George Kennedy puts in a fine performance as an ex partner of Eastwood&#39;s with a huge chip on his shoulder, and Jeff Bridges puts in another in what would eventually prove to be a long career of underappreciated character roles. Also a good &#39;downer&#39; ending that could only have come from the seventies. Other good &#39;caper gone wrong&#39; movies that I also enjoy: Kubrick&#39;s The Killing, The Hot Rock, The Asphalt Jungle http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Most_Memorable_Uses_of_Pop_Music/190/5363/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: reggie
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Body: Very good picks- especially HarryLime & SkyPilot. Here are a few more:"The Wind" by Cat Stevens in Rushmore. When this song played, I understood that Wes Anderson owes a lot to Hal Ashby. Maybe I was a little slow on the uptake, I wasn't sure what to make of the movie until then."Once I Was" by Tim Buckley, along with several other great songs, in Asby's "Coming Home"."TB Sheets" in Scorsese's "Bringing Out The Dead"."American Girl" by Tom Petty in "Silence of the Lambs". The movie kid of ruined that song for me. "Can't Take My Eyes Off You" in "The Deer Hunter". I don't really like the song, but it works so well in the movie.
]]>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 21:44:37 GMTreggieTop 52/11/2007 4:44:37 PMVery good picks- especially HarryLime &amp; SkyPilot. Here are a few more:"The Wind" by Cat Stevens in Rushmore. When this song played, I understood that Wes Anderson owes a lot to Hal Ashby. Maybe I was a little slow on the uptake, I wasn&#39;t sure what to make of the movie until then."Once I Was" by Tim Buckley, along with several other great songs, in Asby&#39;s "Coming Home"."TB Sheets" in Scorsese&#39;s "Bringing Out The Dead"."American Girl" by Tom Petty in "Silence of the Lambs". The movie kid of ruined that song for me. "Can&#39;t Take My Eyes Off You" in "The Deer Hunter". I don&#39;t really like the song, but it works so well in the movie. http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Top_War_Films/190/3862/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Body: [quote user="SkyPilot"] 1. The Thin Red Line--I've never been in the military but the movement of the film feels very realistic, a hurry-up-and-wait situation. But since it's Malick, it's often slow-down-and-wait, too. 2. The Deer Hunter--By now we probably all know that there is no evidence for the Viet Cong forcing their prisoners to play Russian roulette. Fine. It's still one of the most compelling scenes in cinema history. 3. Apocalypse Now--not the Redux, in which the scenes had some interesting points or themes, but I don't think most of the scenes helped the movie. Except maybe the scene where Kurtz comes to the guys' cell and reads to him from--Time magazine was it? Still, you have a trade-off because that's the only time you see Kurtz in the daylight, and I like how in the original he's always in the dark of the temple. 4. Saving Private Ryan--UPPUM WILL YOU GET UP THAT F***ING STAIRCASE! It still does it to me every time. 5. Platoon--I don't have much to say about this one, but I'm not just tacking it on for no good reason. I guess I feel like I could've been there with guys more than any of the other ones. The guys are more childlike than the soldiers of the other films, but they're still capable of shocking violence and depravity. Elias is the kind of Sergeant I would follow. [/quote] All highly conventional choices Adam. I guess I can't argue with them too much though. I always find Spielberg a bit too senimental though. The Deer Hunter is intense and affecting, but sheesh just too long and depressing. I think the industrial town they live in is more depressing than the war. I just saw The Thin Red Line after seeing it not long after it first came out. I've seen Days of Heaven once and Badlands about half a dozen times since then. I was excited to see it again, but although it's shot beautifully, I found it to be not quite the perfect piece of poetry I had sculpted it to be in my memory or re-expectations if you will. It seemed kind of thin. [quote user="paul"]War.It's such a popular genre and, therefore, is usually done poorly, like romance. So, I'm asking myself which films I feel really showed me something about war besides the usual hero vs. villain stuff. The Thin Red Line (for reasons stated above) The New World - although not a designated "war," I still thought there was a war between the colonists and indians. Even such a small war had reprecussions that changed the world. Hotel Rwanda - showed me how a country can cave in on itself without the rest of the world having a clue. It also showed me how much war is about emotions with no regard for reason. Legends of the Fall and Tae Guk Gi - It's amazing how war completely mangles and reinvents a bond between brothers. Chihwaseon - Usually, in war movie you have to watch the war from one side--the hero's side--looking at the other. This movie's hero refuses to choose sides as war after war goes on around him. Something about that perspective really, for me, showed the futility of war. [/quote] I guess I'm still pretty excited to see The New World. Hotel Rwanda was so moving and not like the war movies we are used to in America, which even when lamenting the tragedies of war seem pretty self centered. Ooooh, I've been interested in seeing Chihwaseon for awhile, but haven't heard anyone I actually sort of knew recommend it. Alright, here's my list. 1. KUBRICK! Full Metal Jacket; Paths of Glory; Dr. Strangelove; Barry Lyndon; Ok, I have done this with most of my top 5 lists, but I’m surprised to see I seem to have a favorite filmmaker for many different genres and categories. What can I say about Kubrick but he knew how to portray man’s folly, and where is that more abundant than in war? 2. The General. (1927). Is this a war movie? IMDB says it is. Even in my war movies list, I have to cram in as many comedies as I can. 3. Buffalo Soldiers. (2001). I'm not sure how many of you have seen this? I saw it sort of accidentally. It premiered at the Sundance Film Festival just days before 9/11. After that it could not get a wide distribution at movie theaters due to the fear that people would be upset by a movie that seemed to criticize the US military. It doesn't really do that however. I'm not sure if it would have been more well known otherwise, but it's unfortunate more people didn't get a chance to see it. It basically suggests that human beings always strive to be in some sort of state of war and will create their own smaller wars if there is no official one to participate in. Really funny as well! 4. No Man's Land. (2001). Examines many aspects of war, including the damaging impact the pervasive media organizations can play in recent times. 5. The Red and the White. (1967). I can't count the number of thoughtless execusion style killings, and after a while you forget which side is which and it doesn't even matter. and I would also like to mention Little Dieter Needs to Fly, a Herzog documentary which contains some pretty astounding and heroing anectodes from the title character about his experiences in the Vietnam war and a POW camp.
]]>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:30:10 GMTRisseladaTop 511/28/2006 5:30:10 PM[quote user="SkyPilot"] 1. The Thin Red Line--I've never been in the military but the movement of the film feels very realistic, a hurry-up-and-wait situation. But since it's Malick, it's often slow-down-and-wait, too. 2. The Deer Hunter--By now we probably all know that there is no evidence for the Viet Cong forcing their prisoners to play Russian roulette. Fine. It's still one of the most compelling scenes in cinema history. 3. Apocalypse Now--not the Redux, in which the scenes had some interesting points or themes, but I don't think most of the scenes helped the movie. Except maybe the scene where Kurtz comes to the guys' cell and reads to him from--Time magazine was it? Still, you have a trade-off because that's the only time you see Kurtz in the daylight, and I like how in the original he's always in the dark of the temple. 4. Saving Private Ryan--UPPUM WILL YOU GET UP THAT F***ING STAIRCASE! It still does it to me every time. 5. Platoon--I don't have much to say about this one, but I'm not just tacking it on for no good reason. I guess I feel like I could've been there with guys more than any of the other ones. The guys are more childlike than the soldiers of the other films, but they're still capable of shocking violence and depravity. Elias is the kind of Sergeant I would follow. [/quote] All highly conventional choices Adam. I guess I can't argue with them too much though. I always find Spielberg a bit too senimental though. The Deer Hunter is intense and affecting, but sheesh just too long and depressing. I think the industrial town they live in is more depressing than the war. I just saw The Thin Red Line after seeing it not long after it first came out. I've seen Days of Heaven once and Badlands about half a dozen times since then. I was excited to see it again, but although it's shot beautifully, I found it to be not quite the perfect piece of poetry I had sculpted it to be in my memory or re-expectations if you will. It seemed kind of thin. [quote user="paul"]War.It's such a popular genre and, therefore, is usually done poorly, like romance. So, I'm asking myself which films I feel really showed me something about war besides the usual hero vs. villain stuff. The Thin Red Line (for reasons stated above) The New World - although not a designated "war," I still thought there was a war between the colonists and indians. Even such a small war had reprecussions that changed the world. Hotel Rwanda - showed me how a country can cave in on itself without the rest of the world having a clue. It also showed me how much war is about emotions with no regard for reason. Legends of the Fall and Tae Guk Gi - It's amazing how war completely mangles and reinvents a bond between brothers. Chihwaseon - Usually, in war movie you have to watch the war from one side--the hero's side--looking at the other. This movie's hero refuses to choose sides as war after war goes on around him. Something about that perspective really, for me, showed the futility of war. [/quote] I guess I'm still pretty excited to see The New World. Hotel Rwanda was so moving and not like the war movies we are used to in America, which even when lamenting the tragedies of war seem pretty self centered. Ooooh, I've been interested in seeing Chihwaseon for awhile, but haven't heard anyone I actually sort of knew recommend it. Alright, here's my list. 1. KUBRICK! Full Metal Jacket; Paths of Glory; Dr. Strangelove; Barry Lyndon; Ok, I have done this with most of my top 5 lists, but I’m surprised to see I seem to have a favorite filmmaker for many different genres and categories. What can I say about Kubrick but he knew how to portray man’s folly, and where is that more abundant than in war? 2. The General. (1927). Is this a war movie? IMDB says it is. Even in my war movies list, I have to cram in as many comedies as I can. 3. Buffalo Soldiers. (2001). I'm not sure how many of you have seen this? I saw it sort of accidentally. It premiered at the Sundance Film Festival just days before 9/11. After that it could not get a wide distribution at movie theaters due to the fear that people would be upset by a movie that seemed to criticize the US military. It doesn't really do that however. I'm not sure if it would have been more well known otherwise, but it's unfortunate more people didn't get a chance to see it. It basically suggests that human beings always strive to be in some sort of state of war and will create their own smaller wars if there is no official one to participate in. Really funny as well! 4. No Man's Land. (2001). Examines many aspects of war, including the damaging impact the pervasive media organizations can play in recent times. 5. The Red and the White. 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