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      <title>Film:The Breakfast Club</title>
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<strong>Title:</strong> The Breakfast Club<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1985<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> John Hughes<br/>
<strong>Plot:</strong> <a href="/players/P____95115/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Hughes</a> wrote and directed this quintessential 1980s high school drama featuring the hottest young stars of the decade. Trapped in a day-long Saturday detention in a prison-like school library are Claire, the princess (<a href="/players/P____60327/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Molly Ringwald</a>); Andrew, the jock (<a href="/players/P____89157/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Emilio Estevez</a>); John, the criminal (<a href="/players/P____52196/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Judd Nelson</a>); Brian, the brain (<a href="/players/P____93153/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Anthony Michael Hall</a>); and Allison, the basket case (<a href="/players/P____65029/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ally Sheedy</a>). These five strangers begin the day with nothing in common, each bound to his/her place in the high school caste system. Yet the students bond together when faced with the villainous principal (<a href="/players/P____27211/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Paul Gleason</a>), and they realize that they have more in common than they may think, including a contempt for adult society. "When you grow up, your heart dies," Allison proclaims in one of the film's many scenes of soul-searching, and, judging from the adults depicted in the film, the teen audience may very well agree. Released in a decade overflowing with derivative teen films, The Breakfast Club has developed an almost cult-like status. ~ Dylan Wilcox, All Movie Guide<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 103<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 104<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 7<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 14<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 4<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:43:26 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>The Breakfast Club</spout:Title><spout:Year>1985</spout:Year><spout:Director>John Hughes</spout:Director><spout:Plot>&lt;a href="/players/P____95115/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;John Hughes&lt;/a&gt; wrote and directed this quintessential 1980s high school drama featuring the hottest young stars of the decade. Trapped in a day-long Saturday detention in a prison-like school library are Claire, the princess (&lt;a href="/players/P____60327/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Molly Ringwald&lt;/a&gt;); Andrew, the jock (&lt;a href="/players/P____89157/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Emilio Estevez&lt;/a&gt;); John, the criminal (&lt;a href="/players/P____52196/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Judd Nelson&lt;/a&gt;); Brian, the brain (&lt;a href="/players/P____93153/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Anthony Michael Hall&lt;/a&gt;); and Allison, the basket case (&lt;a href="/players/P____65029/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Ally Sheedy&lt;/a&gt;). These five strangers begin the day with nothing in common, each bound to his/her place in the high school caste system. Yet the students bond together when faced with the villainous principal (&lt;a href="/players/P____27211/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Paul Gleason&lt;/a&gt;), and they realize that they have more in common than they may think, including a contempt for adult society. "When you grow up, your heart dies," Allison proclaims in one of the film's many scenes of soul-searching, and, judging from the adults depicted in the film, the teen audience may very well agree. Released in a decade overflowing with derivative teen films, The Breakfast Club has developed an almost cult-like status. ~ Dylan Wilcox, All Movie Guide</spout:Plot><spout:TimesTagged>103</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Tag Target (&gt;10)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>104</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>7</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>14</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>4</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u03181xya4i.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/The_Breakfast_Club/4362/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:What is your favorite movie directed by John Hughes?</title>
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<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/5353/default.aspx'>Risselada</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/657/discussions.aspx'>Movie Polls</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 8/11/2009 10:43:26 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> [quote user="mercurial"] I went through a rather depressing year of high school in which I watched The Breakfast Club at least once a day. I know it backwards and forwards. Every word. Every awkward gesture. So yeah, I picked that one. [/quote] You know, I've never actually seen The Breakfast Club!  I've seen small scenes here and there on TV, but not much of it.  I guess I should see it, if not just for the cultural references. I have this memory of being in grade school and going over to a friends house to watch Planes, Trains &amp; Automobiles on VHS.  We had to be sneaky about it I found out because it was rated R!  I think it was the first R rated movie I ever saw!!!<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:43:26 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>Risselada</spout:postby><spout:postto>Movie Polls</spout:postto><spout:postdate>8/11/2009 10:43:26 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>[quote user="mercurial"] I went through a rather depressing year of high school in which I watched The Breakfast Club at least once a day. I know it backwards and forwards. Every word. Every awkward gesture. So yeah, I picked that one. [/quote] You know, I've never actually seen The Breakfast Club!  I've seen small scenes here and there on TV, but not much of it.  I guess I should see it, if not just for the cultural references. I have this memory of being in grade school and going over to a friends house to watch Planes, Trains &amp;amp; Automobiles on VHS.  We had to be sneaky about it I found out because it was rated R!  I think it was the first R rated movie I ever saw!!!</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: What is your favorite movie directed by John Hughes?</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/What_is_your_favorite_movie_directed_by_John_Hughe/657/43461/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u03181xya4i.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/5353/default.aspx'>Risselada</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/657/discussions.aspx'>Movie Polls</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 8/10/2009 2:06:20 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> Please reference this thread for the rules of this group. This poll has been posted by the request of laurabot who requeted a John Hughes poll.  Maybe next week I'll post a poll about the movies he has written but not directed since there are a good slew of those as well.    Please vote only once in each poll. Movies referenced in this poll:The Breakfast ClubCurly SueFerris Bueller's Day OffPlanes, Trains &amp; AutomobilesShe's Having a BabySixteen CandlesUncle BuckWeird Science<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:06:20 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>Risselada</spout:postby><spout:postto>Movie Polls</spout:postto><spout:postdate>8/10/2009 2:06:20 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Please reference this thread for the rules of this group. This poll has been posted by the request of laurabot who requeted a John Hughes poll.  Maybe next week I'll post a poll about the movies he has written but not directed since there are a good slew of those as well.    Please vote only once in each poll. Movies referenced in this poll:The Breakfast ClubCurly SueFerris Bueller's Day OffPlanes, Trains &amp;amp; AutomobilesShe's Having a BabySixteen CandlesUncle BuckWeird Science</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: 10 Most Depressing Holidays in Movies</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/11/12/37255.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u03181xya4i.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/9325/default.aspx'>SpoutBlog</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/default.aspx'>SpoutBlog on spout.com</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 11/12/2008 3:00:44 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> I saw Christmas decorations in a storefront Sunday, so I guess it’s already time to break out the holiday movies. And it’s evidently time for distributors to release holiday fare to theaters, even if Desplechin’s A Christmas Tale (Un conte de Noël), which hits theaters this Friday, isn’t exactly the latest crowd-pleasing installment of the Santa Clause franchise. In fact, with such ingredients as estrangement, mental illness, alcoholism and cancer, it doesn’t seem like a very happy holidays kind of film. Even if it is actually a comedy.
But then how many holiday movies are completely void of depressing themes and scenes? I’m sure to have grown up thinking more about the homeless, suicide and family dysfunction from films set at Christmas and Thanksgiving than I did thinking about the happiness that comes with these holidays. One of the most tearjerking moments for me as a kid was certainly seeing Mickey Mouse crying over his dead son in Mickey’s Christmas Carol. It’s no wonder so many people get sad this time of year. Movies are influential, and for every bit of slapstick we see this season, there’s potentially room for thoughts of abandoned children to go along with it.
Worse for our tearducts are the films that aren’t necessarily thought of as “holiday movies,” which are typically more honest about how much of a bummer holidays can truly be. So get out your hanky and check out our list of ten most depressing holidays in movies:


Movie: Planes, Trains and Automobiles
Depressing holiday: Thanksgiving
It’s likely that John Hughes is a real drag on holidays. His scripts feature kids forgotten at Christmastime (Home Alone and its sequels), poor teens who get cartons of cigarettes as presents (The Breakfast Club) and yuletide kidnappings (Christmas Vacation). Thanksgiving seems to be the most melancholy for him, though, as is clear from the bittersweet road trip movies Dutch and Planes, Trains and Automobiles, the latter of which is up there with the saddest “comedies” ever made. Sure, it ultimately has a happy ending, but those last few minutes leave you bawling as you watch the montage and subsequent scene revealing John Candy’s true living situation.

Film: The Apartment
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
It’s sad enough to be a lonely bachelor on Christmas Eve. It’s even sadder to be loaning out your home as a lover’s hideaway on such a night. Saddest of all, though, has to be returning to said apartment to find a half-dead woman in your bed who has attempted suicide with your sleeping pills (bonus points for her being your crush). The Apartment also has one of the more depressing New Year’s Eves on film, even if it does kind of figure into a “happy” ending.

Film: Lethal Weapon
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
Sgt. Martin Riggs (Mel Gibson) is also a lonely man on Christmas Eve dealing with suicide, but here it’s the contemplation of his own. While watching Bugs Bunny’s Christmas Carol on TV and thinking about his dead wife, he loads up his gun and wrestles with his demons. It’s one of the most heart-wrenching scenes to ever be included in an action movie.

Film: The War at Home
Depressing Holiday: Thanksgiving
Like Martin Riggs, Jeremy Collier (Emilio Estevez) is a Vietnam vet, and also like Riggs, he has trouble putting his gun away during the holidays. Unlike Riggs, though, Jeremy’s weapon is directed at his father (Martin Sheen) rather than himself, and that leads to a less-depressing but no less disheartening situation.

Film: A Midnight Clear
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
One of the most bittersweet war films ever made, A Midnight Clear is set during Christmas, 1944, in the middle of WWII and involves an intended holiday truce between American and German troops. Unfortunately, things go wrong. Not only does the film remind us currently that so many soldiers are away from home and potentially fighting on Christmas, it also displays some depressing truths about humanity and war that are saddening regardless of the season.

Film: The Ice Storm
Depressing Holiday: Thanksgiving
This movie (which could also qualify for yesterday’s list of best dysfunctional families) reminds us of how sad Thanksgiving can be on an historical level thanks to the sardonic pre-dinne grace said by Wendy (Christina Ricci) regarding both America’s tradition of killing and robbing the Indians and its gluttonous disregard for the starving people around the world (didn’t we all go through that holiday protest phase?). Oh, and it features one of the most unsettling death-by-electrocution scenes ever.

Film: Gremlins
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
The present holiday of this horror comedy classic is pretty sad considering all the death and destruction being caused by little green monsters, but the real depressing Christmas is the one from the past that Kate (Phoebe Cates) tells about. You know, the one where her father broke his neck and died on Christmas Eve while playing Santa Claus. And by recalling the details so slowly and in depth (she could have just simply said that her dad died on Christmas), she makes it even more somber a story than is welcome at such an already fearsome occasion.

Film: Critters 2: The Main Course

Depressing Holiday: Easter
Obviously taking a cue from Gremlins, this sequel similarly involves little creatures terrorizing a small town during a holiday. And while not quite as gloomy for a young viewer as the earlier, better film, Critters 2 does feature a relatively upsetting scene in which “the Easter Bunny” is attacked by Crites and then crashes through a church window, ultimately bleeding from the mouth, dead.

Film: Groundhog Day
Depressing Holiday: Groundhog Day
Not that anyone really celebrates this “holiday” (neither school nor post office is closed), but whatever. Though treated as black comedy, there is something quite depressing about all those suicide attempts made by Phil Connors (Bill Murray). It’s enough to cast a shadow (yuk yuk) on all the happiness that otherwise would come from Groundhog Day if it actually involved celebratory activities.

Film: Roger & Me
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
Documentaries have the ability to make for the most depressing holidays, because they feature real life events — like a family being evicted from their home on Christmas day. This one is especially grim this year, as it’s possible that with the economy and mortgage crisis what they are that some families across America will be experiencing such a fate this December 25. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:00:44 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>SpoutBlog</spout:postby><spout:postto>SpoutBlog on spout.com</spout:postto><spout:postdate>11/12/2008 3:00:44 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>I saw Christmas decorations in a storefront Sunday, so I guess it’s already time to break out the holiday movies. And it’s evidently time for distributors to release holiday fare to theaters, even if Desplechin’s A Christmas Tale (Un conte de Noël), which hits theaters this Friday, isn’t exactly the latest crowd-pleasing installment of the Santa Clause franchise. In fact, with such ingredients as estrangement, mental illness, alcoholism and cancer, it doesn’t seem like a very happy holidays kind of film. Even if it is actually a comedy.
But then how many holiday movies are completely void of depressing themes and scenes? I’m sure to have grown up thinking more about the homeless, suicide and family dysfunction from films set at Christmas and Thanksgiving than I did thinking about the happiness that comes with these holidays. One of the most tearjerking moments for me as a kid was certainly seeing Mickey Mouse crying over his dead son in Mickey’s Christmas Carol. It’s no wonder so many people get sad this time of year. Movies are influential, and for every bit of slapstick we see this season, there’s potentially room for thoughts of abandoned children to go along with it.
Worse for our tearducts are the films that aren’t necessarily thought of as “holiday movies,” which are typically more honest about how much of a bummer holidays can truly be. So get out your hanky and check out our list of ten most depressing holidays in movies:


Movie: Planes, Trains and Automobiles
Depressing holiday: Thanksgiving
It’s likely that John Hughes is a real drag on holidays. His scripts feature kids forgotten at Christmastime (Home Alone and its sequels), poor teens who get cartons of cigarettes as presents (The Breakfast Club) and yuletide kidnappings (Christmas Vacation). Thanksgiving seems to be the most melancholy for him, though, as is clear from the bittersweet road trip movies Dutch and Planes, Trains and Automobiles, the latter of which is up there with the saddest “comedies” ever made. Sure, it ultimately has a happy ending, but those last few minutes leave you bawling as you watch the montage and subsequent scene revealing John Candy’s true living situation.

Film: The Apartment
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
It’s sad enough to be a lonely bachelor on Christmas Eve. It’s even sadder to be loaning out your home as a lover’s hideaway on such a night. Saddest of all, though, has to be returning to said apartment to find a half-dead woman in your bed who has attempted suicide with your sleeping pills (bonus points for her being your crush). The Apartment also has one of the more depressing New Year’s Eves on film, even if it does kind of figure into a “happy” ending.

Film: Lethal Weapon
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
Sgt. Martin Riggs (Mel Gibson) is also a lonely man on Christmas Eve dealing with suicide, but here it’s the contemplation of his own. While watching Bugs Bunny’s Christmas Carol on TV and thinking about his dead wife, he loads up his gun and wrestles with his demons. It’s one of the most heart-wrenching scenes to ever be included in an action movie.

Film: The War at Home
Depressing Holiday: Thanksgiving
Like Martin Riggs, Jeremy Collier (Emilio Estevez) is a Vietnam vet, and also like Riggs, he has trouble putting his gun away during the holidays. Unlike Riggs, though, Jeremy’s weapon is directed at his father (Martin Sheen) rather than himself, and that leads to a less-depressing but no less disheartening situation.

Film: A Midnight Clear
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
One of the most bittersweet war films ever made, A Midnight Clear is set during Christmas, 1944, in the middle of WWII and involves an intended holiday truce between American and German troops. Unfortunately, things go wrong. Not only does the film remind us currently that so many soldiers are away from home and potentially fighting on Christmas, it also displays some depressing truths about humanity and war that are saddening regardless of the season.

Film: The Ice Storm
Depressing Holiday: Thanksgiving
This movie (which could also qualify for yesterday’s list of best dysfunctional families) reminds us of how sad Thanksgiving can be on an historical level thanks to the sardonic pre-dinne grace said by Wendy (Christina Ricci) regarding both America’s tradition of killing and robbing the Indians and its gluttonous disregard for the starving people around the world (didn’t we all go through that holiday protest phase?). Oh, and it features one of the most unsettling death-by-electrocution scenes ever.

Film: Gremlins
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
The present holiday of this horror comedy classic is pretty sad considering all the death and destruction being caused by little green monsters, but the real depressing Christmas is the one from the past that Kate (Phoebe Cates) tells about. You know, the one where her father broke his neck and died on Christmas Eve while playing Santa Claus. And by recalling the details so slowly and in depth (she could have just simply said that her dad died on Christmas), she makes it even more somber a story than is welcome at such an already fearsome occasion.

Film: Critters 2: The Main Course

Depressing Holiday: Easter
Obviously taking a cue from Gremlins, this sequel similarly involves little creatures terrorizing a small town during a holiday. And while not quite as gloomy for a young viewer as the earlier, better film, Critters 2 does feature a relatively upsetting scene in which “the Easter Bunny” is attacked by Crites and then crashes through a church window, ultimately bleeding from the mouth, dead.

Film: Groundhog Day
Depressing Holiday: Groundhog Day
Not that anyone really celebrates this “holiday” (neither school nor post office is closed), but whatever. Though treated as black comedy, there is something quite depressing about all those suicide attempts made by Phil Connors (Bill Murray). It’s enough to cast a shadow (yuk yuk) on all the happiness that otherwise would come from Groundhog Day if it actually involved celebratory activities.

Film: Roger &amp; Me
Depressing Holiday: Christmas
Documentaries have the ability to make for the most depressing holidays, because they feature real life events — like a family being evicted from their home on Christmas day. This one is especially grim this year, as it’s possible that with the economy and mortgage crisis what they are that some families across America will be experiencing such a fate this December 25. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Weekly Prep for 10/24 Releases</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Movie_Prep/Weekly_Prep_for_10_24_Releases/651/36621/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u03181xya4i.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/73625/default.aspx'>ChrisThilk</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Movie_Prep/651/discussions.aspx'>Weekly Movie Prep</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 10/23/2008 12:29:51 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> It's going to be an interesting Friday in theaters this week. You've got a handful of horror, a pretty standard looking cop flick, a period drama directed by one of Hollywood's elder statesmen and the third entry in a pre-pubescent-targeted series that's filled with singing and dancing basketball players. So it's a mixed bag to say the least. And here's what I'm probably watching in preparation for those:  Changeling: Million Dollar Baby, Bridges of Madison County, Bronco Billy, A Mighty Heart - Clint Eastwood has a strong tendency to overdo it when it comes to putting his female characters up on a pedastal and these few movies are perfect examples of that. The last one, of course, is Angelina Jolie's previous entry in the "Won't Someone Help Me Find..." genre, something that allows her primarily to put those ginormous lips to their best pouting usage.  High School Musical 3: High School Musical, High School Musical 2, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, The Breakfast Club, Superbad - It's best not to ask why I'm going to wind up seeing HSM3. But catching up on the story so far and then cleansing the pallet with some quality tales of high school hijinks that are decidedly less family-friendly is probably a good idea.   I'm not much of a horror fan so I'm not likely to see the new batch of flicks. But what's on your docket for this week?<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:29:51 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>ChrisThilk</spout:postby><spout:postto>Weekly Movie Prep</spout:postto><spout:postdate>10/23/2008 12:29:51 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>It's going to be an interesting Friday in theaters this week. You've got a handful of horror, a pretty standard looking cop flick, a period drama directed by one of Hollywood's elder statesmen and the third entry in a pre-pubescent-targeted series that's filled with singing and dancing basketball players. So it's a mixed bag to say the least. And here's what I'm probably watching in preparation for those:  Changeling: Million Dollar Baby, Bridges of Madison County, Bronco Billy, A Mighty Heart - Clint Eastwood has a strong tendency to overdo it when it comes to putting his female characters up on a pedastal and these few movies are perfect examples of that. The last one, of course, is Angelina Jolie's previous entry in the "Won't Someone Help Me Find..." genre, something that allows her primarily to put those ginormous lips to their best pouting usage.  High School Musical 3: High School Musical, High School Musical 2, Fast Times at Ridgemont High, The Breakfast Club, Superbad - It's best not to ask why I'm going to wind up seeing HSM3. But catching up on the story so far and then cleansing the pallet with some quality tales of high school hijinks that are decidedly less family-friendly is probably a good idea.   I'm not much of a horror fan so I'm not likely to see the new batch of flicks. But what's on your docket for this week?</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:80s teen flick that described romantic relationships to you</title>
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<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/122321/default.aspx'>seely</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/groups/Forever_Young/85/discussions.aspx'>Forever Young</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 10/17/2008 10:49:22 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> Oh this is a good one!  I'm definately a hopeless romantic underdog at heart, and *loved* the way 80's films portrayed highschool relationships, with their clearly defined archetypical characters and somewhat formulaic endings. For me, I think I was most shaped by: The Breakfast Club Valley Girl Say Anything Sixteen Candles (1984) They all had similar themes, of people winding up with someone that they typically shouldn't be interested in... this gave me a lot of hope as an awkward pubescent teenager. [quote user="filmgal81"] As a kid, what 80s teen movie did you think high school romantic relationships would be most like? For me, it is a toss up between three movies: For Keeps ( happy endings), Dirty Dancing ( fleeting love), and The Breakfast Club ( flirtations)   [/quote]<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:49:22 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>seely</spout:postby><spout:postto>Forever Young</spout:postto><spout:postdate>10/17/2008 10:49:22 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Oh this is a good one!  I'm definately a hopeless romantic underdog at heart, and *loved* the way 80's films portrayed highschool relationships, with their clearly defined archetypical characters and somewhat formulaic endings. For me, I think I was most shaped by: The Breakfast Club Valley Girl Say Anything Sixteen Candles (1984) They all had similar themes, of people winding up with someone that they typically shouldn't be interested in... this gave me a lot of hope as an awkward pubescent teenager. [quote user="filmgal81"] As a kid, what 80s teen movie did you think high school romantic relationships would be most like? For me, it is a toss up between three movies: For Keeps ( happy endings), Dirty Dancing ( fleeting love), and The Breakfast Club ( flirtations)   [/quote]</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: 80s teen flick that described romantic relationships to you</title>
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<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/135195/default.aspx'>filmgal81</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 10/17/2008 6:52:54 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> As a kid, what 80s teen movie did you think high school romantic relationships would be most like? For me, it is a toss up between three movies: For Keeps ( happy endings), Dirty Dancing ( fleeting love), and The Breakfast Club ( flirtations)  <br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:52:54 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>filmgal81</spout:postby><spout:postto>Forever Young</spout:postto><spout:postdate>10/17/2008 6:52:54 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>As a kid, what 80s teen movie did you think high school romantic relationships would be most like? For me, it is a toss up between three movies: For Keeps ( happy endings), Dirty Dancing ( fleeting love), and The Breakfast Club ( flirtations)  </spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re: The Brat Pack</title>
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<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/122321/default.aspx'>seely</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 9/29/2008 11:40:21 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> I &lt;3 Molly Ringwald.  That being said, I'm probably one of the few guys who will shamelessly declare his love for any Brat Pack/John Hughes film.  I loved Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, and all of those wonderful films.  I really don't think there is as realistic a portrayal of teen life today... its gone from genuine struggle, sexual curiosity/frustration and angst to sexual conquest and slapstick comedy (see: 'American Pie').  I also would argue you don't see as diverse a cast in the majority of teen films today.  Though Hughes relied heavily on archetypes/stereotypes in most of his films, he at least had a somewhat diverse cast of characters who represented different segements of the youth population and didn't all fit into that preppy/pretty-boy category.  For every character, there was always an antognist.  I never found myself relating much to American Pie, though it was entertaining, while I find myself indentifying a lot more with Sixteen Candles and The Breakfast Club.  Maybe it just gave this geek a little hope. [quote user="filmgal81"] I whole heartedly agree. All that  girls have to idolize now are  lolipop shaped, cookie cutter actresses who are playing the " Light as a Feather" game. It is very sad that 1) this is what we label as perfection these days and 2) no one thinks to question anything regarding this extreme  swing of the pendulum out side of "um...perhaps they are too thin? maybe?" I wrote a piece about it on my blog entitled " Honey, Your Puritain Roots Are Showing"   http://retrocurves.tumblr.com/ check it out.        [quote user="i-heart-art"]If you've got a spare moment, feel free to read my blog about The Breakfast Club.  In it, I declare it as my favorite in what I have dubbed "The Holy Trinity of Ringwald" (Sixteeen Candles, The Breakfast Club, and Pretty in Pink).  I'm pretty sure that young girls today don't have any wholesome [yet quirky] idols like Molly Ringwald was for us back then and it's truly sad...[/quote] [/quote]<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:40:21 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>seely</spout:postby><spout:postto>Forever Young</spout:postto><spout:postdate>9/29/2008 11:40:21 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>I &amp;lt;3 Molly Ringwald.  That being said, I'm probably one of the few guys who will shamelessly declare his love for any Brat Pack/John Hughes film.  I loved Breakfast Club, Sixteen Candles, and all of those wonderful films.  I really don't think there is as realistic a portrayal of teen life today... its gone from genuine struggle, sexual curiosity/frustration and angst to sexual conquest and slapstick comedy (see: 'American Pie').  I also would argue you don't see as diverse a cast in the majority of teen films today.  Though Hughes relied heavily on archetypes/stereotypes in most of his films, he at least had a somewhat diverse cast of characters who represented different segements of the youth population and didn't all fit into that preppy/pretty-boy category.  For every character, there was always an antognist.  I never found myself relating much to American Pie, though it was entertaining, while I find myself indentifying a lot more with Sixteen Candles and The Breakfast Club.  Maybe it just gave this geek a little hope. [quote user="filmgal81"] I whole heartedly agree. All that  girls have to idolize now are  lolipop shaped, cookie cutter actresses who are playing the " Light as a Feather" game. It is very sad that 1) this is what we label as perfection these days and 2) no one thinks to question anything regarding this extreme  swing of the pendulum out side of "um...perhaps they are too thin? maybe?" I wrote a piece about it on my blog entitled " Honey, Your Puritain Roots Are Showing"   http://retrocurves.tumblr.com/ check it out.        [quote user="i-heart-art"]If you've got a spare moment, feel free to read my blog about The Breakfast Club.  In it, I declare it as my favorite in what I have dubbed "The Holy Trinity of Ringwald" (Sixteeen Candles, The Breakfast Club, and Pretty in Pink).  I'm pretty sure that young girls today don't have any wholesome [yet quirky] idols like Molly Ringwald was for us back then and it's truly sad...[/quote] [/quote]</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: 10 Underrated College Movies</title>
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<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/9325/default.aspx'>SpoutBlog</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 8/26/2008 6:01:05 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> 
I never went to a normal college, never lived in a proper dorm or experienced fraternity hazing or even rush week from an inside viewpoint. I went to an urban art school and then a commuter school. And though I grew up in a college town and later worked on the campus of another college I didn’t attend, I feel like I don’t have the proper perspective with which to judge most college movies and college kid characters as being true to life. This probably explains why I enjoy so many bad movies set in colleges and/or involving college students. I bet I could even check out a double feature of The House Bunny and College and have a good time at the movies.
Of course, I do have some semblance of good taste, and I also recognize that none of the following movies are anywhere near the quality of my favorite college movies (including Harold Lloyd’s The Freshman, the Marx Brothers’ Horse Feathers and the Frat Pack’s Old School), or even the beloved Animal House, which I regrettably find to be highly overrated (no, that doesn’t mean I dislike it or think it’s bad or unfunny). The ten movies on today’s list are merely guilty pleasures that I can’t stop appreciating no matter how hard I try or how old I get.

 
Teen Wolf Too - Certainly basketball is overused in high school and college sports movies, but following hoops with boxing gloves was an odd choice for this Teen Wolf sequel. It was almost as bad as having the popular jock character be on the wrestling team or, worse, a diver (see Back to School below). But despite the change of sport, the repeat of plot and the unfortunate recasting of the character “Stiles”, Teen Wolf Too has at least one enjoyable element: Jason Bateman. Even before he won our favor with Arrested Development and roles since, Bateman was quite a likable presence here. Sure, it’s not as good as the first movie, but does it really deserve that paltry 2.6 rating on the IMDb?

Back to School - Having gone back to college after a long hiatus, I have a very special place in my heart for this movie. But I’ve had multiple levels of appreciation since first seeing it 22 years ago. Originally, as a kid, I just liked Rodney Dangerfield. In high school, my favorite character was “Derek,” the freaky friend played by Robert Downey Jr. Later, I got into Oingo Boingo/Danny Elfman and favored their appearance. And almost finally, when Kurt Vonnegut became my favorite writer, his cameo was the coolest thing in the world (as an added bonus: Keith Gordon, who plays Dangerfield’s son in the movie, went on to direct an adaptation of Vonnegut’s “Mother Night”). In a way, the movie isn’t too underrated; it has a decent 6.1 rating on the IMDb and a very good 87% on Rotten Tomatoes. Still, I’m always shocked that more people aren’t huge fans.

PCU - I’ve already claimed my pre-hip appreciation for Jason Bateman (I even loved Valerie/Valerie’s Family/The Hogan Family, so there!), and now I must admit to having been a fan of Jeremy Piven since the beginning, too (Lucas has always been one of my favorite teen movies). I don’t know how often it’s watched these days, but looking back on it now, PCU seems to be a great souvenir from its time. Also, I’ll always remember it as the movie that taught me not to wear a band’s t-shirt to their concert and informed me of the fact that at any given time, there’s either a Michael Caine or a Gene Hackman movie being aired on television.

Midnight Madness - I know it’s considered a cult classic now, but it truly deserves to be an actual classic. Is it not as popular or as widely seen as other college movies because it involves a college activity that isn’t centered around drinking or sex (there is at least the Pabst brewery)? When I first went away to college, I was nailed to the X (meaning I was straight-edge and didn’t drink or do drugs), so I would have loved it if there’d been scavenger hunts instead of keggers (actually, where I went, there wasn’t either), even if I’d already been arrested while participating in a hunt in high school. By the way, speaking of underrated scavenger hunt movies, where’s the DVD release of Scavenger Hunt already?

Up the Creek - I guess not everyone has an appreciation for movies featuring Stephen Furst, despite his prominence in the king of college movies, Animal House. He followed that by appearing in both of my beloved scavenger hunt movies (see #4) and then later reuniting with his Delta brother Tim Matheson in this movie, which as a kid I always thought of as like a live-action, R-rated remake of Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown.

Revenge of the Nerds II: Nerds in Paradise - It lacked the boobs and the bush, and its premise was pretty weak, even for being something of a redo of the first film’s plot. However, if you’ve ever seen the subsequent sequels, it’s clear that it could have been worse. Personally, I like the parts with James Hong, Bradley Whitford (always a well-played snake) and the song “No on 15″ (see the video above).

Higher Learning - I tend to hate movies that so categorically divide the supposed social hierarchies of high school and college — maybe I just went to an abnormal high school, but it never seemed that distinct to me — and I don’t especially like the way this movie defines people by the music they listen to, but I have as much appreciation for Higher Learning as I do for The Breakfast Club and Crash, each of which I consider to be more about using thin characters as vehicles for ideas rather than about real people and a narrative story.

Happy Together - No, I’m not referring to the Wong Kar-Wai film. Rather, the 1989 movie starring Patrick Dempsey and Helen Slater. Maybe it’s just the fact that my only college roommate was a girl. But that was intentional, unlike the scenario of this movie. Prior to its relevance to my life, though, it was merely great for featuring Supergirl (and Billie Jean) topless.

Pumpkin - After so many high school and college movies in which the handsome guy or pretty girl ultimately falls for the “ugly” guy/girl, it was quite an interesting concept to have the “ugly” one be a mentally handicapped, as well as socially handicapped, person.

Road Trip - Thanks to Martin Lawrence and Raven-Symone, I now have to specify that I don’t mean College Road Trip. I also have to note that I think it would be a much better movie if Tom Green wasn’t in it. Also, compared to Old School, which was also written by Scot Armstrong and Todd Phillips and directed by Phillips, it’s got about a tenth of the laughs, if even that much. Surprisingly, however, Andy Dick is actually tolerable in Road Trip and not in Old School. Is it just me, or should DJ Qualls be doing better for himself these days?
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I never went to a normal college, never lived in a proper dorm or experienced fraternity hazing or even rush week from an inside viewpoint. I went to an urban art school and then a commuter school. And though I grew up in a college town and later worked on the campus of another college I didn’t attend, I feel like I don’t have the proper perspective with which to judge most college movies and college kid characters as being true to life. This probably explains why I enjoy so many bad movies set in colleges and/or involving college students. I bet I could even check out a double feature of The House Bunny and College and have a good time at the movies.
Of course, I do have some semblance of good taste, and I also recognize that none of the following movies are anywhere near the quality of my favorite college movies (including Harold Lloyd’s The Freshman, the Marx Brothers’ Horse Feathers and the Frat Pack’s Old School), or even the beloved Animal House, which I regrettably find to be highly overrated (no, that doesn’t mean I dislike it or think it’s bad or unfunny). The ten movies on today’s list are merely guilty pleasures that I can’t stop appreciating no matter how hard I try or how old I get.

 
Teen Wolf Too - Certainly basketball is overused in high school and college sports movies, but following hoops with boxing gloves was an odd choice for this Teen Wolf sequel. It was almost as bad as having the popular jock character be on the wrestling team or, worse, a diver (see Back to School below). But despite the change of sport, the repeat of plot and the unfortunate recasting of the character “Stiles”, Teen Wolf Too has at least one enjoyable element: Jason Bateman. Even before he won our favor with Arrested Development and roles since, Bateman was quite a likable presence here. Sure, it’s not as good as the first movie, but does it really deserve that paltry 2.6 rating on the IMDb?

Back to School - Having gone back to college after a long hiatus, I have a very special place in my heart for this movie. But I’ve had multiple levels of appreciation since first seeing it 22 years ago. Originally, as a kid, I just liked Rodney Dangerfield. In high school, my favorite character was “Derek,” the freaky friend played by Robert Downey Jr. Later, I got into Oingo Boingo/Danny Elfman and favored their appearance. And almost finally, when Kurt Vonnegut became my favorite writer, his cameo was the coolest thing in the world (as an added bonus: Keith Gordon, who plays Dangerfield’s son in the movie, went on to direct an adaptation of Vonnegut’s “Mother Night”). In a way, the movie isn’t too underrated; it has a decent 6.1 rating on the IMDb and a very good 87% on Rotten Tomatoes. Still, I’m always shocked that more people aren’t huge fans.

PCU - I’ve already claimed my pre-hip appreciation for Jason Bateman (I even loved Valerie/Valerie’s Family/The Hogan Family, so there!), and now I must admit to having been a fan of Jeremy Piven since the beginning, too (Lucas has always been one of my favorite teen movies). I don’t know how often it’s watched these days, but looking back on it now, PCU seems to be a great souvenir from its time. Also, I’ll always remember it as the movie that taught me not to wear a band’s t-shirt to their concert and informed me of the fact that at any given time, there’s either a Michael Caine or a Gene Hackman movie being aired on television.

Midnight Madness - I know it’s considered a cult classic now, but it truly deserves to be an actual classic. Is it not as popular or as widely seen as other college movies because it involves a college activity that isn’t centered around drinking or sex (there is at least the Pabst brewery)? When I first went away to college, I was nailed to the X (meaning I was straight-edge and didn’t drink or do drugs), so I would have loved it if there’d been scavenger hunts instead of keggers (actually, where I went, there wasn’t either), even if I’d already been arrested while participating in a hunt in high school. By the way, speaking of underrated scavenger hunt movies, where’s the DVD release of Scavenger Hunt already?

Up the Creek - I guess not everyone has an appreciation for movies featuring Stephen Furst, despite his prominence in the king of college movies, Animal House. He followed that by appearing in both of my beloved scavenger hunt movies (see #4) and then later reuniting with his Delta brother Tim Matheson in this movie, which as a kid I always thought of as like a live-action, R-rated remake of Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown.

Revenge of the Nerds II: Nerds in Paradise - It lacked the boobs and the bush, and its premise was pretty weak, even for being something of a redo of the first film’s plot. However, if you’ve ever seen the subsequent sequels, it’s clear that it could have been worse. Personally, I like the parts with James Hong, Bradley Whitford (always a well-played snake) and the song “No on 15″ (see the video above).

Higher Learning - I tend to hate movies that so categorically divide the supposed social hierarchies of high school and college — maybe I just went to an abnormal high school, but it never seemed that distinct to me — and I don’t especially like the way this movie defines people by the music they listen to, but I have as much appreciation for Higher Learning as I do for The Breakfast Club and Crash, each of which I consider to be more about using thin characters as vehicles for ideas rather than about real people and a narrative story.

Happy Together - No, I’m not referring to the Wong Kar-Wai film. Rather, the 1989 movie starring Patrick Dempsey and Helen Slater. Maybe it’s just the fact that my only college roommate was a girl. But that was intentional, unlike the scenario of this movie. Prior to its relevance to my life, though, it was merely great for featuring Supergirl (and Billie Jean) topless.

Pumpkin - After so many high school and college movies in which the handsome guy or pretty girl ultimately falls for the “ugly” guy/girl, it was quite an interesting concept to have the “ugly” one be a mentally handicapped, as well as socially handicapped, person.

Road Trip - Thanks to Martin Lawrence and Raven-Symone, I now have to specify that I don’t mean College Road Trip. I also have to note that I think it would be a much better movie if Tom Green wasn’t in it. Also, compared to Old School, which was also written by Scot Armstrong and Todd Phillips and directed by Phillips, it’s got about a tenth of the laughs, if even that much. Surprisingly, however, Andy Dick is actually tolerable in Road Trip and not in Old School. Is it just me, or should DJ Qualls be doing better for himself these days?
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      <title>Spout Post: Only the Lonely (1991)</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/aidanbrack/archive/2008/7/26/33127.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u03181xya4i.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/135864/default.aspx'>aidanbrack</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 7/26/2008 10:09:21 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> There is nothing terribly original or inspiring about the plot in this Chris Columbus-helmed romantic comedy but that is not to say it is unenjoyable. Only the Lonely is the story of a grown man still living in the shadow of his dominant and prejudiced mother. When he meets Theresa Luna (played by the wonderful Ally Sheedy of Breakfast Club fame), things seem to be going well until his mother gets in the way. Danny, played by unlikely romcom lead John Candy, is torn between his love for Theresa and his mother's well-being. Unable to stand up to her, his relationship looks doomed to fail. The film is not tight, meandering towards its conclusion, but managed to keep my attention. Whilst I found it lacking in big laughs, it had buckets of charm courtesy of its three principle players who work together beautifully. Overall, I enjoyed this and found it happily diverting. Besides, any film with Jim Belushi in the buddy role is inherently worth a watch (cf. About Last Night - one of my favourite eighties romantic comedies).<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:09:21 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>aidanbrack</spout:postby><spout:postto>The Bigger Picture</spout:postto><spout:postdate>7/26/2008 10:09:21 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>There is nothing terribly original or inspiring about the plot in this Chris Columbus-helmed romantic comedy but that is not to say it is unenjoyable. Only the Lonely is the story of a grown man still living in the shadow of his dominant and prejudiced mother. When he meets Theresa Luna (played by the wonderful Ally Sheedy of Breakfast Club fame), things seem to be going well until his mother gets in the way. Danny, played by unlikely romcom lead John Candy, is torn between his love for Theresa and his mother's well-being. Unable to stand up to her, his relationship looks doomed to fail. The film is not tight, meandering towards its conclusion, but managed to keep my attention. Whilst I found it lacking in big laughs, it had buckets of charm courtesy of its three principle players who work together beautifully. Overall, I enjoyed this and found it happily diverting. Besides, any film with Jim Belushi in the buddy role is inherently worth a watch (cf. About Last Night - one of my favourite eighties romantic comedies).</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: 10 Movie Romances That Probably Didn’t Last</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/6/9/31014.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u03181xya4i.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 6/9/2008 5:01:53 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> It took me awhile, but last week I finally saw Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. And to agree with many others, I think it features a few too many ludicrous moments. Yet the most outlandish, in my opinion, is the scene in which Indy and Marion seem to reenact His Girl Friday in about four seconds while riding in the back of a truck. I know it’d been awhile, both for them and for us, but I prefer a little more bickering, a little more holding back in comedy of remarriage plots.
Anyway, we knew a long time ago, thanks to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, that Indy and Marion didn’t last long together after the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. So, I didn’t really care if they ended up together at the end of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, either. It’s probable they still wouldn’t last. And I think the same often with other unlikely movie couples at the end of their respective films. Fortunately, a number of sequels tell us outright that the romance of the first film failed (see The Karate Kid, Part II and Jurassic Park III). Unfortunately, most of the following films didn’t have follow-ups. But if they had, I bet we’d have discovered the romances didn’t last much longer than the closing credits.

Bringing Up Baby: Dr. David Huxley (Cary Grant) and Susan Vance (Katherine Hepburn) - As is the case with most screwball comedies, the leads here just don’t seem that compatible. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that Susan was quickly shipped off to a mental hospital for being such a daffy loon. Then there’s the matter of her destroying Huxley’s work at the end. No man would really put up with that, even if there were some attraction. And I never actually bought that there is any attraction from his end.

Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II: - Dr. Peter Venkman (Bill Murray) and Dana Barrett (Sigourney Weaver) - This franchise utilizes the device of having the couple split up between the first and second films only to get back together at the finish of the sequel. I understand that audiences prefer a happy ending, but when you know they didn’t work out the first time, why would you believe they could work a second time? Because Dana’s baby seems to like Venkman? Apparently so. But those of us who watched the cartoon series The Real Ghostbusters know that had they remained a couple, Dana would have been animated along with the rest of the characters.
Amelie - Amelie Poulain (Audrey Tautou) and Nino Quincampoix (Matthieu Kassovitz) - Despite what Hong Kong audiences who saw Happenstance might think, Amelie has not been given a sequel. So we are just to assume that Amelie and Nino live happily ever after, despite the fact that they’ve only just met right before the end of the film. And we never really get to see them have a conversation, either. We just know that Amelie is kind of a creepy, albeit adorable, stalker and that Nino works in a porn shop. Hopefully he kicked her off his motorcycle as soon as the Yann Tiersen score was over (because then she can come stalk me — see, I’m just bitter with this one).
Chungking Express: Cop 663 (Tony Leung) and Faye (Faye Wong) - Faye is kind of like the precursor to Amelie, as she’s something of a stalker — but it’s OK, because she’s so darn cute. While the ending of Wong Kar-wai’s film is ambiguous, we’re kind of expected to believe these two end up together. But what happens when Cop 663 realizes how often Faye broke into his apartment? And how often she plays “California Dreaming” over and over and over again? And how capricious girls are tolerable for only so long?
The Muppets Take Manhattan: Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy - When I was a kid, I thought it made sense for the frog and the pig to be married at the end of this film. Their relationship had been like a Sam & Diane sort of thing for so many years, it seemed inevitable. But when I got older, I realized that Kermit really has no feelings for Piggy, and it’s even evident by his expression during the wedding scene. And I became angry that Jim Henson and Co. would allow kids to applaud the beginnings of what would be a loveless marriage. While writing this, though, I found out from the Muppet Wiki that in “real life” Kermit denies they were really married and that it was just part of the movie. Apparently Piggy claims otherwise. Meanwhile, for people who are actually fans of the relationship, you can see what their offspring would look like in The Muppet Christmas Carol.
Some Like It Hot: Joe (Tony Curis) and Sugar Kane Kowalczyk (Marilyn Monroe) - I’ve never been accepting of characters who woo women with deception such as costume and false identities, and there have been countless examples in both movies and TV throughout the years. Some Like It Hot probably isn’t the first film to feature such fraudulence, but because Joe fools Sugar Kane by being both a good girl friend and a rich suitor he’s double guilty. I trust that even the relationship between Jerry/Daphne (Jack Lemmon) and Osgood Fielding III (Joe E. Brown) lasted longer.
Tootsie: Michael Dorsey (Dustin Hoffman) and Julie Nichols (Jessica Lange) - This one is pretty much the same as the relationship in Some Like It Hot, only it’s a bit more respectable because Michael is less aggressive in his falling for Julie. Sure, there’s one scene where he’s not in drag and he attempts a kinda sleazy maneuver, but at least he never takes on a yachting outfit and Cary Grant voice. Thankfully, there is no kiss at the end of Tootsie, just forgiveness, and we’re left to think Michael and Julie will only become acquaintances at best. I have doubts that even that relationship lasted very long.
Juno: Juno MacGuff (Ellen Page) and Paulie Bleeker (Michael Cera) - High school movie romances should never be believed to last (especially the couples formed at the end of The Breakfast Club). I know, there are a number of high school sweethearts that do get married and live happily ever after. But most of us are not with the boy or girl we dated in high school. Even if there is a baby involved. Personally, I think Paulie Bleeker is too good for Juno, and I think he probably goes on to college and moves on with his life, while doing his part to contribute to the baby, of course.
Two Weeks Notice: Lucy Kelson (Sandra Bullock) and George Wade (Hugh Grant) - I’ve witnessed first-hand that opposites can attract. And if I hadn’t, I could always use James Carville and Mary Matalin as a prime example of a couple who shouldn’t work but do. Nonetheless, I don’t buy the union of her environmental lawyer and his billionaire real estate tycoon. Nor do I buy the union of Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks in the similar pair-up of You’ve Got Mail. If relationships like that were believable, we wouldn’t have so much enjoyed the affair between Jack and C.C. on 30 Rock.
The Graduate: Ben Braddock (Dustin Hoffman, again) and Elaine Robinson (Katherine Ross) - I always assumed it would ultimately bother Elaine too much that Ben had an affair with her mother. I guess if we’re to believe Buck Henry’s cameo in The Player, though, they live quite happily ever after … with Mrs. Robinson.
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</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:01:53 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>SpoutBlog</spout:postby><spout:postto>SpoutBlog on spout.com</spout:postto><spout:postdate>6/9/2008 5:01:53 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>It took me awhile, but last week I finally saw Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. And to agree with many others, I think it features a few too many ludicrous moments. Yet the most outlandish, in my opinion, is the scene in which Indy and Marion seem to reenact His Girl Friday in about four seconds while riding in the back of a truck. I know it’d been awhile, both for them and for us, but I prefer a little more bickering, a little more holding back in comedy of remarriage plots.
Anyway, we knew a long time ago, thanks to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, that Indy and Marion didn’t last long together after the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. So, I didn’t really care if they ended up together at the end of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, either. It’s probable they still wouldn’t last. And I think the same often with other unlikely movie couples at the end of their respective films. Fortunately, a number of sequels tell us outright that the romance of the first film failed (see The Karate Kid, Part II and Jurassic Park III). Unfortunately, most of the following films didn’t have follow-ups. But if they had, I bet we’d have discovered the romances didn’t last much longer than the closing credits.

Bringing Up Baby: Dr. David Huxley (Cary Grant) and Susan Vance (Katherine Hepburn) - As is the case with most screwball comedies, the leads here just don’t seem that compatible. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that Susan was quickly shipped off to a mental hospital for being such a daffy loon. Then there’s the matter of her destroying Huxley’s work at the end. No man would really put up with that, even if there were some attraction. And I never actually bought that there is any attraction from his end.

Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II: - Dr. Peter Venkman (Bill Murray) and Dana Barrett (Sigourney Weaver) - This franchise utilizes the device of having the couple split up between the first and second films only to get back together at the finish of the sequel. I understand that audiences prefer a happy ending, but when you know they didn’t work out the first time, why would you believe they could work a second time? Because Dana’s baby seems to like Venkman? Apparently so. But those of us who watched the cartoon series The Real Ghostbusters know that had they remained a couple, Dana would have been animated along with the rest of the characters.
Amelie - Amelie Poulain (Audrey Tautou) and Nino Quincampoix (Matthieu Kassovitz) - Despite what Hong Kong audiences who saw Happenstance might think, Amelie has not been given a sequel. So we are just to assume that Amelie and Nino live happily ever after, despite the fact that they’ve only just met right before the end of the film. And we never really get to see them have a conversation, either. We just know that Amelie is kind of a creepy, albeit adorable, stalker and that Nino works in a porn shop. Hopefully he kicked her off his motorcycle as soon as the Yann Tiersen score was over (because then she can come stalk me — see, I’m just bitter with this one).
Chungking Express: Cop 663 (Tony Leung) and Faye (Faye Wong) - Faye is kind of like the precursor to Amelie, as she’s something of a stalker — but it’s OK, because she’s so darn cute. While the ending of Wong Kar-wai’s film is ambiguous, we’re kind of expected to believe these two end up together. But what happens when Cop 663 realizes how often Faye broke into his apartment? And how often she plays “California Dreaming” over and over and over again? And how capricious girls are tolerable for only so long?
The Muppets Take Manhattan: Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy - When I was a kid, I thought it made sense for the frog and the pig to be married at the end of this film. Their relationship had been like a Sam &amp; Diane sort of thing for so many years, it seemed inevitable. But when I got older, I realized that Kermit really has no feelings for Piggy, and it’s even evident by his expression during the wedding scene. And I became angry that Jim Henson and Co. would allow kids to applaud the beginnings of what would be a loveless marriage. While writing this, though, I found out from the Muppet Wiki that in “real life” Kermit denies they were really married and that it was just part of the movie. Apparently Piggy claims otherwise. Meanwhile, for people who are actually fans of the relationship, you can see what their offspring would look like in The Muppet Christmas Carol.
Some Like It Hot: Joe (Tony Curis) and Sugar Kane Kowalczyk (Marilyn Monroe) - I’ve never been accepting of characters who woo women with deception such as costume and false identities, and there have been countless examples in both movies and TV throughout the years. Some Like It Hot probably isn’t the first film to feature such fraudulence, but because Joe fools Sugar Kane by being both a good girl friend and a rich suitor he’s double guilty. I trust that even the relationship between Jerry/Daphne (Jack Lemmon) and Osgood Fielding III (Joe E. Brown) lasted longer.
Tootsie: Michael Dorsey (Dustin Hoffman) and Julie Nichols (Jessica Lange) - This one is pretty much the same as the relationship in Some Like It Hot, only it’s a bit more respectable because Michael is less aggressive in his falling for Julie. Sure, there’s one scene where he’s not in drag and he attempts a kinda sleazy maneuver, but at least he never takes on a yachting outfit and Cary Grant voice. Thankfully, there is no kiss at the end of Tootsie, just forgiveness, and we’re left to think Michael and Julie will only become acquaintances at best. I have doubts that even that relationship lasted very long.
Juno: Juno MacGuff (Ellen Page) and Paulie Bleeker (Michael Cera) - High school movie romances should never be believed to last (especially the couples formed at the end of The Breakfast Club). I know, there are a number of high school sweethearts that do get married and live happily ever after. But most of us are not with the boy or girl we dated in high school. Even if there is a baby involved. Personally, I think Paulie Bleeker is too good for Juno, and I think he probably goes on to college and moves on with his life, while doing his part to contribute to the baby, of course.
Two Weeks Notice: Lucy Kelson (Sandra Bullock) and George Wade (Hugh Grant) - I’ve witnessed first-hand that opposites can attract. And if I hadn’t, I could always use James Carville and Mary Matalin as a prime example of a couple who shouldn’t work but do. Nonetheless, I don’t buy the union of her environmental lawyer and his billionaire real estate tycoon. Nor do I buy the union of Meg Ryan and Tom Hanks in the similar pair-up of You’ve Got Mail. If relationships like that were believable, we wouldn’t have so much enjoyed the affair between Jack and C.C. on 30 Rock.
The Graduate: Ben Braddock (Dustin Hoffman, again) and Elaine Robinson (Katherine Ross) - I always assumed it would ultimately bother Elaine too much that Ben had an affair with her mother. I guess if we’re to believe Buck Henry’s cameo in The Player, though, they live quite happily ever after … with Mrs. Robinson.
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