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Year: 2009
Director: Quentin Tarantino
Plot: Quentin Tarantino's long-gestating WWII epic, Inglorious Bastards, finally sees the light of day with this re-envisioning of Enzo G. Castellari's violent war film from 1977. Brad Pitt, Eli Roth, Nastassja Kinski, Samm Levine, Mike Myers, and B.J. Novak star in the Universal Pictures release. ~ Jeremy Wheeler, All Movie Guide
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]]>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:58:50 GMTInglorious Basterds2009Quentin Tarantino<a href="http://www.spout.com/players/P___113658/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Quentin Tarantino</a>'s long-gestating WWII epic, <a href="http://www.spout.com/films/386016/detail.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Inglorious Bastards</a>, finally sees the light of day with this re-envisioning of Enzo G. Castellari's violent war film from 1977. <a href="http://www.spout.com/players/P____56988/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Brad Pitt</a>, <a href="http://www.spout.com/players/P___355297/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Eli Roth</a>, <a href="http://www.spout.com/players/P____38430/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Nastassja Kinski</a>, <a href="http://www.spout.com/players/P___302018/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Samm Levine</a>, <a href="http://www.spout.com/players/P____51621/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Mike Myers</a>, and B.J. Novak star in the Universal Pictures release. ~ Jeremy Wheeler, All Movie Guide14Tag Target (>10)8223http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s386016.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Inglorious_Basterds/386016/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/risselada/archive/2009/10/28/44247.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Body: This is the seventh feature length film I've seen by director Quentin Tarantino. I chose to watch this film based on previous good ratings I've given other films by this director and to better my favorite directors by algorithm listing. Inglourious Basterds I've seen all of Tarantino's films. And since I've become a fan I've made to sure to see all of them in the theatre. There are a lot of things that irk me about his style. Some of them irk me while giving me delight at the same time. But I always find the films entertaining. This film starts right out with a scene that was clearly modeled off of one of the very first scenes of my favorite film of all time The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. I know this to be Tarantino's favorite film of all time as well, so I wasn't too surprised. But Tarantino really has me being pulled back and forth violently regarding my admiration for this scene. My joy at wanting to call it a delightful homage and my disgust at what seems almost like straight up plagiarism are constantly at war trough my viewing of this scene. The segment starts out with the subtitle "Once Upon a Time in Nazi Occupied France" which is another in the long line of "Once Upon a Time..." titled films started by The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly director Sergio Leone with such films as Once Upon a Time in the West and Once Upon a Time in America. Then we hear the music of Ennio Morricone who became famous for providing all of the music in all of Leone's films from A Fistful of Dollars onward. Now the scene being referenced is our introduction to Lee Van Cleef's character, or "the bad". In The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, we see him riding up ominously to an isolated farmer's home. The farmer has a long, tense meal with the farmer. It begins with very few words and ends with mass murder by guns. There are endless similarities in structure, character, and tone. Tarantino's use of characters talking about movies is another point of tension for me. It's cool to see references to other films and film personalities of that era, but sometimes it seems a little unrealistic or forced the way these things are discussed. Is Tarantino trying to show us how cool and knowledgeable he is about film, or is he naturally just so that it comes out. Brad Pitt is super fun in this movie and would have been the most memorable character if he wasn't completely blown away by the revelation that is Christoph Waltz. Thank goodness Tarantino brought this guy to my attention. I'd never heard of him before despite the fact that he clearly has tons of talent and experience and a long filmography of European films. Here's hoping this guy will get more worthy parts. Anyone have any suggestions for his older films to see? *What follows may be a spoiler of sorts. There was a while as the plot was building that I felt like there was a lack of tension because what the protagonists were trying to do would alter the outcome of major World War II history was we know it. Since I already knew how the war ended, I felt like I knew if certain aspects of the plot would be successful or not. But as we neared the climax I realized there was no reason to feel like Tarantino of anyone would stick to straight history over his own sense of what would make a film the most exciting. It's an alternate history as a form of exploitation filmmaking that isn't apparent at first. It was a little strange to watch this film right after Mother Night. Although the films are quite different, because they both deal with Nazis and even some on screen representation of real famous Nazis I almost got a few scenes mixed up in my head. At least some of the themes of the two films entwined themselves in my mind. It made an interesting thematic double feature of sorts. Quentin Tarantino:Total feature length films seen: 7Previous average film score: 9New average film score: 9 Rating: 9/10
]]>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:13:09 GMTRisseladaRisselada Blog10/28/2009 1:13:09 PMThis is the seventh feature length film I've seen by director Quentin Tarantino. I chose to watch this film based on previous good ratings I've given other films by this director and to better my favorite directors by algorithm listing. Inglourious Basterds I've seen all of Tarantino's films. And since I've become a fan I've made to sure to see all of them in the theatre. There are a lot of things that irk me about his style. Some of them irk me while giving me delight at the same time. But I always find the films entertaining. This film starts right out with a scene that was clearly modeled off of one of the very first scenes of my favorite film of all time The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. I know this to be Tarantino's favorite film of all time as well, so I wasn't too surprised. But Tarantino really has me being pulled back and forth violently regarding my admiration for this scene. My joy at wanting to call it a delightful homage and my disgust at what seems almost like straight up plagiarism are constantly at war trough my viewing of this scene. The segment starts out with the subtitle "Once Upon a Time in Nazi Occupied France" which is another in the long line of "Once Upon a Time..." titled films started by The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly director Sergio Leone with such films as Once Upon a Time in the West and Once Upon a Time in America. Then we hear the music of Ennio Morricone who became famous for providing all of the music in all of Leone's films from A Fistful of Dollars onward. Now the scene being referenced is our introduction to Lee Van Cleef's character, or "the bad". In The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, we see him riding up ominously to an isolated farmer's home. The farmer has a long, tense meal with the farmer. It begins with very few words and ends with mass murder by guns. There are endless similarities in structure, character, and tone. Tarantino's use of characters talking about movies is another point of tension for me. It's cool to see references to other films and film personalities of that era, but sometimes it seems a little unrealistic or forced the way these things are discussed. Is Tarantino trying to show us how cool and knowledgeable he is about film, or is he naturally just so that it comes out. Brad Pitt is super fun in this movie and would have been the most memorable character if he wasn't completely blown away by the revelation that is Christoph Waltz. Thank goodness Tarantino brought this guy to my attention. I'd never heard of him before despite the fact that he clearly has tons of talent and experience and a long filmography of European films. Here's hoping this guy will get more worthy parts. Anyone have any suggestions for his older films to see? *What follows may be a spoiler of sorts. There was a while as the plot was building that I felt like there was a lack of tension because what the protagonists were trying to do would alter the outcome of major World War II history was we know it. Since I already knew how the war ended, I felt like I knew if certain aspects of the plot would be successful or not. But as we neared the climax I realized there was no reason to feel like Tarantino of anyone would stick to straight history over his own sense of what would make a film the most exciting. It's an alternate history as a form of exploitation filmmaking that isn't apparent at first. It was a little strange to watch this film right after Mother Night. Although the films are quite different, because they both deal with Nazis and even some on screen representation of real famous Nazis I almost got a few scenes mixed up in my head. At least some of the themes of the two films entwined themselves in my mind. It made an interesting thematic double feature of sorts. Quentin Tarantino:Total feature length films seen: 7Previous average film score: 9New average film score: 9 Rating: 9/10 http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/Re_Which_of_these_recent_Brad_Pitt_roles_is_your_f/657/43933/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 9/17/2009 12:08:21 PM
Body: So I picked Chad from Burn After Reading. Of course! It's the Coen brothers duh! But really this is probably my favorite Brad Pitt role ever. It's hard to say, but Jeffrey Goines from Twelve Monkeys might still be my fave. Not that Brad wasn't already willing to make himself look silly on screen, but I still love how the Coens kind of subverted his image to make him such a spaztic dork. And what becomes of the character is such a shocker! "You think that's a Schwinn!" He was tons of fun in the recent Inglorious Basterds too I thought, even though Christoph Waltz definitely stole the show in that film. Those are actually the only two films I've seen on this list. I've been wanting to see Babel and The Assassination of Jesse James for quite a while though so I was curious to see how much votes they would get in this poll. But I was surprised to see that almost every category is getting an equal ammount of votes. I guess that means it's a pretty good poll then! Has anyone here seen Bejamin Button? I'd heard from a lot of people I trust that it wasn't that impressive. Anyone here have any opinions?
]]>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:08:21 GMTRisseladaMovie Polls9/17/2009 12:08:21 PMSo I picked Chad from Burn After Reading. Of course! It's the Coen brothers duh! But really this is probably my favorite Brad Pitt role ever. It's hard to say, but Jeffrey Goines from Twelve Monkeys might still be my fave. Not that Brad wasn't already willing to make himself look silly on screen, but I still love how the Coens kind of subverted his image to make him such a spaztic dork. And what becomes of the character is such a shocker! "You think that's a Schwinn!" He was tons of fun in the recent Inglorious Basterds too I thought, even though Christoph Waltz definitely stole the show in that film. Those are actually the only two films I've seen on this list. I've been wanting to see Babel and The Assassination of Jesse James for quite a while though so I was curious to see how much votes they would get in this poll. But I was surprised to see that almost every category is getting an equal ammount of votes. I guess that means it's a pretty good poll then! Has anyone here seen Bejamin Button? I'd heard from a lot of people I trust that it wasn't that impressive. Anyone here have any opinions? http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/Which_of_these_recent_Brad_Pitt_roles_is_your_favo/657/43906/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 9/15/2009 2:42:49 PM
Body: Please reference this thread for the rules of this group. Please vote only once in each poll. Movies referenced in this poll:The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert FordBabelBurn After ReadingThe Curious Case of Benjamin ButtonInglorious BasterdsMr. & Mrs. SmithOcean's ThirteenTroy
]]>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:42:49 GMTRisseladaMovie Polls9/15/2009 2:42:49 PMPlease reference this thread for the rules of this group. Please vote only once in each poll. Movies referenced in this poll:The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert FordBabelBurn After ReadingThe Curious Case of Benjamin ButtonInglorious BasterdsMr. &amp; Mrs. SmithOcean's ThirteenTroy http://www.spout.com/blogs/xbenjaminmichaelx/archive/2009/8/28/43741.aspx Post By: xBenjaminMichaelx
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Post Date: 8/28/2009 1:58:50 AM
Body: Quentin Tarantino garners a very big mixed reaction. A lot of people find him overrated, while a lot of people find him to be one of the more brilliant minds in cinema today. I tend to find myself leaning somewhere closer to the brilliant, so when a movie comes out he has written/directed it tends to be a big event for me. Enter Inglorious Basterds. It follows three main stories: that of a group of Jewish soldiers lead by Aldo Raine (Brad Pitt) that are attempting to kill as many Nazis as possible, much to the chagrin of Adolf Hitler himself. It also focuses on German officer Hans Landa (Christoph Waltz), known by the Jewish people as the “Jew Hunter” due to his ability to sniff them out of hiding. Finally, we see Shoshanna Dreyfus (Melanie Laurent), a woman whose entire family was snuffed out by Hans Landa and his men. The film is pretty typical Tarantino. A misconception is this is a remake of a film with the same title; they have nowhere near the same plot. Quentin hasn’t lost his knack for dialogue, and may be at his best here. Brad Pitt was superb as Aldo Raine. You could tell he was really having fun with the character. One thing I’ve always enjoyed about Pitt is he’s not afraid to take on interesting, different roles. This is far from anything I’ve seen him do, and he shined in it well. A particular scene with him I must admit though, no one shocked me more so than Christoph Waltz, playing Hans Landa. He was phenomenal, and seemed to steal every scene he was involved with. I hope to see him in more English language films from here on out. A lot of people will compare this film to his other works, and rightfully so: people will always compare a film-maker’s catalog. If I were to compare, I would honestly say this film could potentially be his best yet. It’s too early to tell, as I’ve had multiple viewings of each other one. I must say this does give his other flicks a run for their money. If you like Tarantino, you will not be disappointed.
]]>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:58:50 GMTxBenjaminMichaelxxBenjaminMichaelx Blog8/28/2009 1:58:50 AM Quentin Tarantino garners a very big mixed reaction. A lot of people find him overrated, while a lot of people find him to be one of the more brilliant minds in cinema today. I tend to find myself leaning somewhere closer to the brilliant, so when a movie comes out he has written/directed it tends to be a big event for me. Enter Inglorious Basterds. It follows three main stories: that of a group of Jewish soldiers lead by Aldo Raine (Brad Pitt) that are attempting to kill as many Nazis as possible, much to the chagrin of Adolf Hitler himself. It also focuses on German officer Hans Landa (Christoph Waltz), known by the Jewish people as the &ldquo;Jew Hunter&rdquo; due to his ability to sniff them out of hiding. Finally, we see Shoshanna Dreyfus (Melanie Laurent), a woman whose entire family was snuffed out by Hans Landa and his men. The film is pretty typical Tarantino. A misconception is this is a remake of a film with the same title; they have nowhere near the same plot. Quentin hasn&rsquo;t lost his knack for dialogue, and may be at his best here. Brad Pitt was superb as Aldo Raine. You could tell he was really having fun with the character. One thing I&rsquo;ve always enjoyed about Pitt is he&rsquo;s not afraid to take on interesting, different roles. This is far from anything I&rsquo;ve seen him do, and he shined in it well. A particular scene with him I must admit though, no one shocked me more so than Christoph Waltz, playing Hans Landa. He was phenomenal, and seemed to steal every scene he was involved with. I hope to see him in more English language films from here on out. A lot of people will compare this film to his other works, and rightfully so: people will always compare a film-maker&rsquo;s catalog. If I were to compare, I would honestly say this film could potentially be his best yet. It&rsquo;s too early to tell, as I&rsquo;ve had multiple viewings of each other one. I must say this does give his other flicks a run for their money. If you like Tarantino, you will not be disappointed. http://www.spout.com/groups/Coming_Soon/Re_Is_anyone_out_there_excited_about_any_upcoming/216/42731/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 6/19/2009 2:44:15 PM
Body: [quote user="dakidhasdough"] Hey there folks. I just want to get a heads up and see if anyone out there is excited for any upcoming release in the drama/comedy category. I don't mind foreign language films. Thanks. [/quote] I'm not sure how soon these are coming out, but these are ones that are in completed or post-production stages that I'm looking forward to: A Serious Man The Rum Diary The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus Inglorious Basterds Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans The Tree of Life This is largely based on who is directing these films.
]]>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:44:15 GMTRisseladaComing Soon6/19/2009 2:44:15 PM[quote user="dakidhasdough"] Hey there folks. I just want to get a heads up and see if anyone out there is excited for any upcoming release in the drama/comedy category. I don't mind foreign language films. Thanks. [/quote] I'm not sure how soon these are coming out, but these are ones that are in completed or post-production stages that I'm looking forward to: A Serious Man The Rum Diary The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus Inglorious Basterds Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans The Tree of Life This is largely based on who is directing these films. http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/9/2/34656.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Post Date: 9/2/2008 4:00:48 PM
Body: Earning $14.3 million in its third weekend, Tropic Thunder retained its top placement on the box office chart over the holiday, yet it’s total gross still hasn’t reached the movie’s reported $90 million budget. Meanwhile, five new wide releases (Babylon A.D., Traitor, Disaster Movie, College and Hamlet 2, which expanded this week) performed badly enough to place this year’s Labor Day total at 17% below last year’s. In the end, the slow four-day weekend may have contributed to Summer 2008’s inability to top the box office of Summer 2007, despite The Dark Knight’s now more than $500 mill. take. The most interesting box office news from the weekend is Mamma Mia!’s 34% increase over its previous weekend take — despite having lost more than 350 screens — due to Universal’s releasing a special sing-a-long version of the musical to 299 locations. I’d say something about the film being on its way to Rocky Horror-like cult hit status, but at $132.9 million and climbing, it’s already earned more than Rocky Horror has in 35 years and should anyway be considered an actual hit. As for limited releases, Variety and The Hollywood Reporter failed to mention that Takashi Miike’s Sukiyaki Western Django earned $13,106 on a single screen in NYC this past weekend. Meanwhile, one of my favorite films of the year, Jirí Menzel’s I Served the King of England, earned a terrific per-screen average of $8,488 to gross almost $68,000. I’ve always thought Nastassja Kinski was one of the most boring actresses in the world, but at least she would have given Quentin Tarantino’s Inglorious Bastards that usual casting from the ’70s cred. Unfortunately, Diane Kruger, who’s just plain boring, has instead been cast in the part originally offered to Kinski. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:00:48 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com9/2/2008 4:00:48 PM Earning $14.3 million in its third weekend, Tropic Thunder retained its top placement on the box office chart over the holiday, yet it’s total gross still hasn’t reached the movie’s reported $90 million budget. Meanwhile, five new wide releases (Babylon A.D., Traitor, Disaster Movie, College and Hamlet 2, which expanded this week) performed badly enough to place this year’s Labor Day total at 17% below last year’s. In the end, the slow four-day weekend may have contributed to Summer 2008’s inability to top the box office of Summer 2007, despite The Dark Knight’s now more than $500 mill. take. The most interesting box office news from the weekend is Mamma Mia!’s 34% increase over its previous weekend take — despite having lost more than 350 screens — due to Universal’s releasing a special sing-a-long version of the musical to 299 locations. I’d say something about the film being on its way to Rocky Horror-like cult hit status, but at $132.9 million and climbing, it’s already earned more than Rocky Horror has in 35 years and should anyway be considered an actual hit. As for limited releases, Variety and The Hollywood Reporter failed to mention that Takashi Miike’s Sukiyaki Western Django earned $13,106 on a single screen in NYC this past weekend. Meanwhile, one of my favorite films of the year, Jirí Menzel’s I Served the King of England, earned a terrific per-screen average of $8,488 to gross almost $68,000. I’ve always thought Nastassja Kinski was one of the most boring actresses in the world, but at least she would have given Quentin Tarantino’s Inglorious Bastards that usual casting from the ’70s cred. Unfortunately, Diane Kruger, who’s just plain boring, has instead been cast in the part originally offered to Kinski. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/groups/Filmgaming/Re_A_new_pack_of_RESERVOIR_DOGS_1992/563/32750/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: theunemployedshortstop
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Body: The Epic Tale of "The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge." The Conceit: Due to a trans-dimensional rift caused by the AWESOMENESS of the Inglorious Bastards screenplay Quentin Tarantino is able to jump into a dimension where the world is perpetually in the early fifties. The impish auteur (also great collaborator) is eager to see what some of his favorite directors and writers would do with his material. He gives a vague outline of Reservoir Dogs to Carl Foreman. Bitter over the HUAC hearings of 1947, Forman takes the idea of the mole cop and turns it into a commentary on witch hunting (like the Crucible set in the American West… with action and no weeping, whining, or three hour yawn-fest… just kidding). Production: The studio loved the concept and saw Anthony Mann as the director. His surprising presentation of the morally grey double agents in T – Men and his success as a visual director of both noir and westerns would yield a fantastic visual motif. Foreman set the film in an abandoned camp… rumored to have once been a lush valley, the area is now a barren gorge of salt (Hence Gomorrah Gorge though the studio would want to back off of this title… hence the title of Guthrie's song). Mann shot the film in the Colombia River Gorge and the surrounding desert like region of Eastern Washington. It was more visually arresting than the Rocky Mountain back drop of The Naked Spur. Rewrites: Leigh Brackett (script doctor supreme: The Big Sleep, Rio Bravo, The Empire Strikes Back) is hired to tone down the political commentary and add some sex appeal. Miss Brackett split the role of Nice Guy Eddy (now Cow Puncher Bob) into two roles: Two siblings competing for their father's approval (much like Duel in the Sun) Cow Puncher Bob, a slick but incompetent rustler, and Grifter Gurdy, modeled after Lauren Bacall's con women / gambler characters from To Have and Have Not and The Big Sleep. The love triangle between Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy pleased the studio (however they were angered when they saw Anthony Mann's finished product because of the homosexual overtones that Clift brought out in the mentor relationship between Cub and Timber Wolf). Casting: Gary Cooper as Mr. White/ Timber Wolf: Cooper's leadership and bravery in taking a role that John Wayne thought was un-American is stellar, comparable only to his work on High Noon. Cooper's earnest desire to save the dying "Cub" is palpable. And his seeming asexuality highlights Clift's subversive performance. Montgomery Clift as Mr. Orange / Cub: Mann chose Clift because of the actor's work in Red River. His youth and energy light up as the conflicted double agent. And the women love him in those chaps (this is why the studio eventually shelved the film, which was never to see the light of day) Jack Palance as Mr. Blonde / Coyote: Actor Alan Ladd happened to see the dailies of The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge before the studio locked them away. The star was so impressed by Palance's cool contained rage that he forced Shane director George Stevens to put Palance on the short list for the role of Jack Wilson. The rest, as they say, is history Denis O'Keefe / Loren Bacall as Nice Guy Eddy / Cow Puncher Bob / Grifter Gurdy: O'Keefe's star had fallen a bit after poor reviews of Mann's Raw Deal. Mann liked to see the suave actor portray slick con men (part of his role in T – Men) so he snuck him into the film despite argument from the studio. Bacall was obvious due to Brackett's revisions, however Jennifer Jones was considered until Mann saw and disliked her in King Vidor's Duel in the Sun. Dean Martin as Mr. Pink / Skunk: Martin was originally offered the role of Coyote. Mann thought his cool domineer would create great contrast between the perception of the character and his violent actions. Dean Martin's record label was afraid that their star was being derogatively stereotyped… an Italian in the role of an evil thief, gangster and ear removing murderer (though Frank thought it would be o.k.). Dino opted to go with the drunken comic relief instead. The scene during the second act brake where he belts out "The Ballad of the Scavengers of Dry Gorge" to the nervous thieves pined down in the gorge by the Cavalry (eerily similar to a scene in Rio Bravo) is something I wish all could see. In the time line of the story this is where Coyote removes the young deputy's ear… off camera and covered in vague dialog. Jimmy Stewart as Joe Cabot. As always the elder statesmen Stewart gave his all in a both commanding and haunting performance as the ring leader of the train robbery gang (this would be the beginning of the psychologically conflicted, obsessive characters Stewart would be remembered for: Vertigo and The Naked Spur). Only Jimmy Stewart could corral these wild wolves. Though on the set for just a few days this cameo would prove to form a lasting friendship and yield much collaboration between Mann and Stewart. Ralph Meeker as Mr. Brown / Hyena: Ah crazy Ralph Meeker. I think if you watch Kiss Me Deadly or The Naked Spur you can see why he would be fantastic spouting off long, near incoherent, hyper macho dialog trying to get approval from the other thieves. He's a forgotten American treasure (And from MPLS!!! Walter Brennen as Mr. Blue / Grey Wolf: It's hard to imagine a western with out Walter Brennen playing the old coot that tells the hero they are full of it. In this film he is taunting poor Dean Martin for his alcohol problems: Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart): And you're Skunk. Skunk (Dean Martin): AH… now that ain't even a Wolf, Joe?! Grey Wolf (Walter Brennen): Ye don't gits ta be no Wolf cas' ya stink ta' high heaven boy. (High pitch HEYUCK sound… repeat). Meebe if ya lay of that HOOCH ya could be a wolf. Right now yas just a smelly varmint (continues laughing). Skunk (Dean Martin): Ah cram it old timer! (Skunk shoots at Grey Wolf and misses). Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart): Knock it off you two! Now (stutter) Now where was I… oh yeah the train. Alfred Ryder as Young Cop who gets his ear cut off (Deputy who gets his ear cut off… off camera [revealed in illusive dialog]): Alfred Ryder played the other undercover agent in Anthony Mann's T – Men. His character is found out and killed by the gangsters he is trying to infiltrate. His ability to show both competence as an agent for the government and fear as a mortal in trouble is HAUNTING. Ward Bond as Holdaway (Mr. Orange's Undercover training officer) (Sheriff Holdaway): Much like Walter Brennen, it's not a great western unless you've got Ward Bond (high school football team mate of John Wayne, famous for his roles in many of Wayne's films such as the Calvary Captain/ Reverend Samuel Johnston Clayton in The Searchers). Carl Foreman envisioned this part as a Fortinbras like character that the thieves would talk about but would only appear on screen a few times to create suspense. Sheriff Holdaway leads the posse that traps the bandits in Gomorrah Gorge, which forces Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy to play their final hands. Hank Worden as Bumbling Train Operator: Foreman didn't go for the flash back structure of Tarantino's outline. His story is much more linear, leaving Cub's allegiance a mystery. He replaces the drawn out training sequence in Reservoir Dogs with the train heist that Tarantino was too cleaver to bother with. It was played for both laughs and action. Most of the laughs came from Hank Worden who some of you will remember as Mose Harper in The Searchers ("thank you… thaaank you kindly"), but more of you will remember as senior drool cup (ancient room service guy) in Twin Peaks ("thank you… thaaank you kindly"). That's it. Thanks for reading all of this non-sense.
]]>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:44:33 GMTtheunemployedshortstopFilmgaming7/18/2008 9:44:33 PMThe Epic Tale of "The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge." The Conceit: Due to a trans-dimensional rift caused by the AWESOMENESS of the Inglorious Bastards screenplay Quentin Tarantino is able to jump into a dimension where the world is perpetually in the early fifties. The impish auteur (also great collaborator) is eager to see what some of his favorite directors and writers would do with his material. He gives a vague outline of Reservoir Dogs to Carl Foreman. Bitter over the HUAC hearings of 1947, Forman takes the idea of the mole cop and turns it into a commentary on witch hunting (like the Crucible set in the American West&hellip; with action and no weeping, whining, or three hour yawn-fest&hellip; just kidding). Production: The studio loved the concept and saw Anthony Mann as the director. His surprising presentation of the morally grey double agents in T &ndash; Men and his success as a visual director of both noir and westerns would yield a fantastic visual motif. Foreman set the film in an abandoned camp&hellip; rumored to have once been a lush valley, the area is now a barren gorge of salt (Hence Gomorrah Gorge though the studio would want to back off of this title&hellip; hence the title of Guthrie's song). Mann shot the film in the Colombia River Gorge and the surrounding desert like region of Eastern Washington. It was more visually arresting than the Rocky Mountain back drop of The Naked Spur. Rewrites: Leigh Brackett (script doctor supreme: The Big Sleep, Rio Bravo, The Empire Strikes Back) is hired to tone down the political commentary and add some sex appeal. Miss Brackett split the role of Nice Guy Eddy (now Cow Puncher Bob) into two roles: Two siblings competing for their father's approval (much like Duel in the Sun) Cow Puncher Bob, a slick but incompetent rustler, and Grifter Gurdy, modeled after Lauren Bacall's con women / gambler characters from To Have and Have Not and The Big Sleep. The love triangle between Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy pleased the studio (however they were angered when they saw Anthony Mann's finished product because of the homosexual overtones that Clift brought out in the mentor relationship between Cub and Timber Wolf). Casting: Gary Cooper as Mr. White/ Timber Wolf: Cooper's leadership and bravery in taking a role that John Wayne thought was un-American is stellar, comparable only to his work on High Noon. Cooper's earnest desire to save the dying "Cub" is palpable. And his seeming asexuality highlights Clift's subversive performance. Montgomery Clift as Mr. Orange / Cub: Mann chose Clift because of the actor's work in Red River. His youth and energy light up as the conflicted double agent. And the women love him in those chaps (this is why the studio eventually shelved the film, which was never to see the light of day) Jack Palance as Mr. Blonde / Coyote: Actor Alan Ladd happened to see the dailies of The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge before the studio locked them away. The star was so impressed by Palance's cool contained rage that he forced Shane director George Stevens to put Palance on the short list for the role of Jack Wilson. The rest, as they say, is history Denis O'Keefe / Loren Bacall as Nice Guy Eddy / Cow Puncher Bob / Grifter Gurdy: O'Keefe's star had fallen a bit after poor reviews of Mann's Raw Deal. Mann liked to see the suave actor portray slick con men (part of his role in T &ndash; Men) so he snuck him into the film despite argument from the studio. Bacall was obvious due to Brackett's revisions, however Jennifer Jones was considered until Mann saw and disliked her in King Vidor's Duel in the Sun. Dean Martin as Mr. Pink / Skunk: Martin was originally offered the role of Coyote. Mann thought his cool domineer would create great contrast between the perception of the character and his violent actions. Dean Martin's record label was afraid that their star was being derogatively stereotyped&hellip; an Italian in the role of an evil thief, gangster and ear removing murderer (though Frank thought it would be o.k.). Dino opted to go with the drunken comic relief instead. The scene during the second act brake where he belts out "The Ballad of the Scavengers of Dry Gorge" to the nervous thieves pined down in the gorge by the Cavalry (eerily similar to a scene in Rio Bravo) is something I wish all could see. In the time line of the story this is where Coyote removes the young deputy's ear&hellip; off camera and covered in vague dialog. Jimmy Stewart as Joe Cabot. As always the elder statesmen Stewart gave his all in a both commanding and haunting performance as the ring leader of the train robbery gang (this would be the beginning of the psychologically conflicted, obsessive characters Stewart would be remembered for: Vertigo and The Naked Spur). Only Jimmy Stewart could corral these wild wolves. Though on the set for just a few days this cameo would prove to form a lasting friendship and yield much collaboration between Mann and Stewart. Ralph Meeker as Mr. Brown / Hyena: Ah crazy Ralph Meeker. I think if you watch Kiss Me Deadly or The Naked Spur you can see why he would be fantastic spouting off long, near incoherent, hyper macho dialog trying to get approval from the other thieves. He's a forgotten American treasure (And from MPLS!!! Walter Brennen as Mr. Blue / Grey Wolf: It's hard to imagine a western with out Walter Brennen playing the old coot that tells the hero they are full of it. In this film he is taunting poor Dean Martin for his alcohol problems: Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart): And you're Skunk. Skunk (Dean Martin): AH&hellip; now that ain't even a Wolf, Joe?! Grey Wolf (Walter Brennen): Ye don't gits ta be no Wolf cas' ya stink ta' high heaven boy. (High pitch HEYUCK sound&hellip; repeat). Meebe if ya lay of that HOOCH ya could be a wolf. Right now yas just a smelly varmint (continues laughing). Skunk (Dean Martin): Ah cram it old timer! (Skunk shoots at Grey Wolf and misses). Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart): Knock it off you two! Now (stutter) Now where was I&hellip; oh yeah the train. Alfred Ryder as Young Cop who gets his ear cut off (Deputy who gets his ear cut off&hellip; off camera [revealed in illusive dialog]): Alfred Ryder played the other undercover agent in Anthony Mann's T &ndash; Men. His character is found out and killed by the gangsters he is trying to infiltrate. His ability to show both competence as an agent for the government and fear as a mortal in trouble is HAUNTING. Ward Bond as Holdaway (Mr. Orange's Undercover training officer) (Sheriff Holdaway): Much like Walter Brennen, it's not a great western unless you've got Ward Bond (high school football team mate of John Wayne, famous for his roles in many of Wayne's films such as the Calvary Captain/ Reverend Samuel Johnston Clayton in The Searchers). Carl Foreman envisioned this part as a Fortinbras like character that the thieves would talk about but would only appear on screen a few times to create suspense. Sheriff Holdaway leads the posse that traps the bandits in Gomorrah Gorge, which forces Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy to play their final hands. Hank Worden as Bumbling Train Operator: Foreman didn't go for the flash back structure of Tarantino's outline. His story is much more linear, leaving Cub's allegiance a mystery. He replaces the drawn out training sequence in Reservoir Dogs with the train heist that Tarantino was too cleaver to bother with. It was played for both laughs and action. Most of the laughs came from Hank Worden who some of you will remember as Mose Harper in The Searchers ("thank you&hellip; thaaank you kindly"), but more of you will remember as senior drool cup (ancient room service guy) in Twin Peaks ("thank you&hellip; thaaank you kindly"). That's it. Thanks for reading all of this non-sense. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/war/MemberTagFilms.aspxwar
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