list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/What_Ever_Happened_to_Baby_Jane/37949/default.aspx Title: What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?
Year: 1962
Director: Robert Aldrich
Plot: As a child, "Baby Jane" Hudson was the toast of vaudeville. As an adult, however, Baby Jane was overshadowed by her more talented sister, Blanche, who became a top movie star. Then, one night in the early '30s, came the accident, which crippled Blanche for life and which was blamed on a drunken, jealous Jane. Flash-forward to 1962: Jane (Bette Davis), decked out in garish chalk-white makeup, still lives with the invalid Blanche (Joan Crawford) in their decaying L.A. mansion. When Jane isn't tormenting the helpless Blanche by serving her dead rats for breakfast, she is plotting and planning her showbiz comeback. Convinced that her days are numbered if she remains in the house with her addlepated sister, Blanche desperately tries to get away, but all avenues of escape are cut off by the deranged Jane. What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? sparked a trend toward casting venerable Hollywood female stars in such grotesque Grand Guignol melodramas as Lady in a Cage (1964) and Hush...Hush Sweet Charlotte (1965). In addition to revitalizing the careers of Davis and Crawford, whose real-life mutual animosity came through loud and clear, the film made a star of sorts of 24-year-old character actor Victor Buono, cast as a porcine mama's-boy musical composer. Lukas Heller's screenplay was based on the novel by Henry Farrell. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide
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]]>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 20:44:45 GMTWhat Ever Happened to Baby Jane?1962Robert AldrichAs a child, "Baby Jane" Hudson was the toast of vaudeville. As an adult, however, Baby Jane was overshadowed by her more talented sister, Blanche, who became a top movie star. Then, one night in the early '30s, came the accident, which crippled Blanche for life and which was blamed on a drunken, jealous Jane. Flash-forward to 1962: Jane (<a href="/players/P____17295/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Bette Davis</a>), decked out in garish chalk-white makeup, still lives with the invalid Blanche (<a href="/players/P____15681/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Joan Crawford</a>) in their decaying L.A. mansion. When Jane isn't tormenting the helpless Blanche by serving her dead rats for breakfast, she is plotting and planning her showbiz comeback. Convinced that her days are numbered if she remains in the house with her addlepated sister, Blanche desperately tries to get away, but all avenues of escape are cut off by the deranged Jane. What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? sparked a trend toward casting venerable Hollywood female stars in such grotesque Grand Guignol melodramas as <a href=/films/19523/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Lady in a Cage</a> (1964) and Hush...Hush Sweet Charlotte (1965). In addition to revitalizing the careers of Davis and Crawford, whose real-life mutual animosity came through loud and clear, the film made a star of sorts of 24-year-old character actor <a href="/players/P_____9520/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Victor Buono</a>, cast as a porcine mama's-boy musical composer. <a href="/players/P____93960/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Lukas Heller</a>'s screenplay was based on the novel by Henry Farrell. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide12Tag Target (>10)18154http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t77608muu98.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/What_Ever_Happened_to_Baby_Jane/37949/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Weekly_Theme_for_January_26_Female_Hysteria/625/39941/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: leeroy711
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Post Date: 1/26/2009 8:13:59 PM
Body: Did anyone listen to this week's Filmcouch?................ No?? Well, I did. It was good. They talked quite a bit about horror movies and they actually touched on something I've been thinking about using for a Weekly Theme for a while now. They mentioned women in horror films and the stereotypical shriek so often heard at the moment of their imminent peril. Well, I'd like to talk about a broader topic. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's right, I wanna hear about all those "GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF" moments that have somehow become a part of film culture in general. Do any women actually act like this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How about Betty Davis in What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? Or one can't forget Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby. Also, the third act of a very old film called Häxan takes a very interesting turn that fits this theme. If you haven't watched it, I highly recommend it. OK your turn. Do you have a favorite moment. Or do y'all just hate this whole idea? I wanna hear it.
]]>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:13:59 GMTleeroy711Weekly Theme1/26/2009 8:13:59 PMDid anyone listen to this week's Filmcouch?................ No?? Well, I did. It was good. They talked quite a bit about horror movies and they actually touched on something I've been thinking about using for a Weekly Theme for a while now. They mentioned women in horror films and the stereotypical shriek so often heard at the moment of their imminent peril. Well, I'd like to talk about a broader topic. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's right, I wanna hear about all those "GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF" moments that have somehow become a part of film culture in general. Do any women actually act like this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ How about Betty Davis in What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? Or one can't forget Mia Farrow in Rosemary's Baby. Also, the third act of a very old film called H&auml;xan takes a very interesting turn that fits this theme. If you haven't watched it, I highly recommend it. OK your turn. Do you have a favorite moment. Or do y'all just hate this whole idea? I wanna hear it. http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_October_6_Revenge/625/35952/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Tizzy
Post To: Weekly Theme
Post Date: 10/6/2008 7:06:19 PM
Body: [quote user="mercurial"] Well since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner. [/quote] I see your Jaws: The Revenge, Mercurial, and raise you one Revenge of the Nerds. I'd also like to throw Heathers into the mix of teenage revenge movies, with very dark consequences.
]]>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:06:19 GMTTizzyWeekly Theme10/6/2008 7:06:19 PM[quote user="mercurial"] Well since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner. [/quote] I see your Jaws: The Revenge, Mercurial, and raise you one Revenge of the Nerds. I'd also like to throw Heathers into the mix of teenage revenge movies, with very dark consequences. http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_October_6_Revenge/625/35951/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
Post To: Weekly Theme
Post Date: 10/6/2008 6:45:27 PM
Body: Well since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner.
]]>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:45:27 GMTmercurialWeekly Theme10/6/2008 6:45:27 PMWell since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner. http://www.spout.com/groups/Filmspotting/Top_5_Movies_about_Movies/304/34131/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: unclefestering
Post To: Filmspotting
Post Date: 8/19/2008 8:38:57 PM
Body: I can't believe that neither Matt nor Adam had What Ever Happened to Baby Jane in their Top 5 movies about movies list? Is there no love for either Bette Davies or Joan Crawford? Or was is that they were too scared to see what was under on the covered dishes that Bette served to Joan? For shame gentlemen, just watching two faded movies stars who hate each other, but are dependent on each other spiral in different directions, one in terror and the other into insanity, is so mesmerizing. If you haven't seen it, put it on the top of your queue. P.S. I find it weird that so many people use Grand Guignol to describe this movie. It's like the French theater was built just for this movie.
]]>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:38:57 GMTunclefesteringFilmspotting8/19/2008 8:38:57 PMI can't believe that neither Matt nor Adam had What Ever Happened to Baby Jane in their Top 5 movies about movies list? Is there no love for either Bette Davies or Joan Crawford? Or was is that they were too scared to see what was under on the covered dishes that Bette served to Joan? For shame gentlemen, just watching two faded movies stars who hate each other, but are dependent on each other spiral in different directions, one in terror and the other into insanity, is so mesmerizing. If you haven't seen it, put it on the top of your queue. P.S. I find it weird that so many people use Grand Guignol to describe this movie. It's like the French theater was built just for this movie. http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Top_5_Antagonists/190/27116/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
Post To: Top 5
Post Date: 4/9/2008 1:54:50 AM
Body: Top 5 Antagonists: Human1.) Dazed and Confused - O'Bannon - Ben Affleck's character takes the cake as the biggest a**hole and eventually gets what he deserves.2.) Mutiny on the Bounty - Captain Bligh - Sadistic and unflinchingly evil, Captain Bligh is undoubtedly one of cinemas most hated antagonists.3.) What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? - Jane - Bette Davis oozes nastiness from her caked on makeup to her hoarse, smokers voice.4.) Se7en - John Doe - The unseen serial killer in this film intensifies the terror and dread the viewer feels throughout this film, even more so when he reveals himself and his final acts of brutality.5.) Groundhog Day - Phil "like the groundhog!" Connors - Bill Murray is incredibly noxious for most of the film as a jaded weather man forced to relive the same day over and over again.Runner's Up: Strangeland, Misery, All About Eve, Man Bites Dog, Lemony Snicket's, Dogville Top 5 Antagonists: Supernatural / Science Fiction1.) The Wizard of Oz - The Wicked Witch of the West - Damn if that green-skinned witch isn't the meanest *itch in all of Oz and cinema.2.) Star Wars Trilogy - Darth Vader - Masked and menacing, Darth Vader is felt through each film even when he's not on screen.3.) Jaws - The Great White Shark - Only supernatural in it's damned ability to know what's going on in every inch of the ocean, the shark is one evil son of a *itch.4.) Halloween - Michael Myers - Again, masked and scary as hell, Michael Myers is the definition of a nightmare come to life.5.) Alien - The Alien - In my opinion, one of the creepiest monsters ever imagined.Runner's Up: A Nightmare on Elm Street, Poltergeist, Friday the 13th, Mommie Dearest (Joan Crawford must have had supernatural powers to be that wicked). Top 5 Antagonists: Inanimate Objects1.) The Money Pit - The House - Definitely one of the most aggravating movies where the main antagonist really does nothing but sits there (and continues to fall apart).2.) Speed - The Bus - You try to keep your cool while maintaining the speed limit in L.A. traffic!3.) Cube - The Cube - Murderous booby-traps aplenty, room after room after room after room after room after room after room etc.4.) Maximum Overdrive - The Machines - When those damned semis went crazy, they really went crazy.5.) Modern Times - The Machines - Again, those damned machines getting a mind of their own.
]]>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:54:50 GMTmercurialTop 54/9/2008 1:54:50 AMTop 5 Antagonists: Human1.) Dazed and Confused - O&#39;Bannon - Ben Affleck&#39;s character takes the cake as the biggest a**hole and eventually gets what he deserves.2.) Mutiny on the Bounty - Captain Bligh - Sadistic and unflinchingly evil, Captain Bligh is undoubtedly one of cinemas most hated antagonists.3.) What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? - Jane - Bette Davis oozes nastiness from her caked on makeup to her hoarse, smokers voice.4.) Se7en - John Doe - The unseen serial killer in this film intensifies the terror and dread the viewer feels throughout this film, even more so when he reveals himself and his final acts of brutality.5.) Groundhog Day - Phil "like the groundhog!" Connors - Bill Murray is incredibly noxious for most of the film as a jaded weather man forced to relive the same day over and over again.Runner&#39;s Up: Strangeland, Misery, All About Eve, Man Bites Dog, Lemony Snicket&#39;s, Dogville Top 5 Antagonists: Supernatural / Science Fiction1.) The Wizard of Oz - The Wicked Witch of the West - Damn if that green-skinned witch isn&#39;t the meanest *itch in all of Oz and cinema.2.) Star Wars Trilogy - Darth Vader - Masked and menacing, Darth Vader is felt through each film even when he&#39;s not on screen.3.) Jaws - The Great White Shark - Only supernatural in it&#39;s damned ability to know what&#39;s going on in every inch of the ocean, the shark is one evil son of a *itch.4.) Halloween - Michael Myers - Again, masked and scary as hell, Michael Myers is the definition of a nightmare come to life.5.) Alien - The Alien - In my opinion, one of the creepiest monsters ever imagined.Runner&#39;s Up: A Nightmare on Elm Street, Poltergeist, Friday the 13th, Mommie Dearest (Joan Crawford must have had supernatural powers to be that wicked). Top 5 Antagonists: Inanimate Objects1.) The Money Pit - The House - Definitely one of the most aggravating movies where the main antagonist really does nothing but sits there (and continues to fall apart).2.) Speed - The Bus - You try to keep your cool while maintaining the speed limit in L.A. traffic!3.) Cube - The Cube - Murderous booby-traps aplenty, room after room after room after room after room after room after room etc.4.) Maximum Overdrive - The Machines - When those damned semis went crazy, they really went crazy.5.) Modern Times - The Machines - Again, those damned machines getting a mind of their own. http://www.spout.com/blogs/divinemsjunebug/archive/2008/3/28/26718.aspx Post By: divinemsjunebug
Post To: divinemsjunebug Blog
Post Date: 3/28/2008 3:57:14 PM
Body: This is such a creepy disturbing film about two sisters who have extreme jealousy and hatred towards each other (which coincidentally is true about Joan Crawford and Bette Davis – in a documentary about their lives and making this movie together, there is a part where Bette Davis is suppose to “pretend” kick Joan Crawford, well Joan Crawford didn’t want to take any chances and made them put a dummy on the ground in her place, just in case Bette got carried away). Sometimes I think I still have nightmares of Bette Davis in her white pancake makeup and pigtails and frilly little dress singing, I’m Writing a Letter to Daddy – it just gives you chills at how good Bette plays a demented, insane, elderly child. One thing I always thought about this movie was that this is what happened between Baby June and Gypsy Rose Lee when they got older – Baby June was the child star and then faded into obscurity when she got older then ran off with a back up dancer after that Gypsy Rose Lee was the star and got all the attention with her strip tease act…maybe this might have been their story. Hmmmmm, makes me wonder. Anyway, if you haven’t seen this movie (yes it’s in black and white but I promise you will get used to it if you give it a chance) try to watch it and let me know what you think!
]]>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:57:14 GMTdivinemsjunebugdivinemsjunebug Blog3/28/2008 3:57:14 PMThis is such a creepy disturbing film about two sisters who have extreme jealousy and hatred towards each other (which coincidentally is true about Joan Crawford and Bette Davis &ndash; in a documentary about their lives and making this movie together, there is a part where Bette Davis is suppose to &ldquo;pretend&rdquo; kick Joan Crawford, well Joan Crawford didn&rsquo;t want to take any chances and made them put a dummy on the ground in her place, just in case Bette got carried away). Sometimes I think I still have nightmares of Bette Davis in her white pancake makeup and pigtails and frilly little dress singing, I&rsquo;m Writing a Letter to Daddy &ndash; it just gives you chills at how good Bette plays a demented, insane, elderly child. One thing I always thought about this movie was that this is what happened between Baby June and Gypsy Rose Lee when they got older &ndash; Baby June was the child star and then faded into obscurity when she got older then ran off with a back up dancer after that Gypsy Rose Lee was the star and got all the attention with her strip tease act&hellip;maybe this might have been their story. Hmmmmm, makes me wonder. Anyway, if you haven&rsquo;t seen this movie (yes it&rsquo;s in black and white but I promise you will get used to it if you give it a chance) try to watch it and let me know what you think! http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/Classic/MemberTagFilms.aspxClassic
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