list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around Valmont on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/Valmont/36689/default.aspx Title: Valmont
Year: 1989
Director: Milos Forman
Plot: The third adaptation of Choderlos de Laclos' classic novel Les Liasons Dangereuses, Milos Forman's Valmont was released one year after Stephen Frears' more famous version of the de Laclos original, Dangerous Liaisons. The plot remains the same: two debauched, depraved 18th century French aristocrats, the Vicomte de Valmont (Colin Firth) and the Marquise de Merteuil (Annette Bening), conspire to destroy several innocent lives, just for the fun of it. But whereas Stephen Frears concentrated on the machinations of the marquise, Forman, per his film's title, devotes most of his screen space to Valmont (played in the Frears version by John Malkovich). In fact, Forman's film concludes with Valmont's conscience-stricken renunciation of his past sins, and his duel to the death, rather than de Meurteil's well-deserved comeuppance. Forman has chosen to set the story back some 50 years, de-emphasizing the opulence that was vital to Frears' vision; he has also utilized a younger cast. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide
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]]>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:24:23 GMTValmont1989Milos FormanThe third adaptation of Choderlos de Laclos' classic novel Les Liasons Dangereuses, <a href="/players/P____90166/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Milos Forman</a>'s Valmont was released one year after <a href="/players/P____90460/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Stephen Frears</a>' more famous version of the de Laclos original, <a href=/films/7946/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Dangerous Liaisons</a>. The plot remains the same: two debauched, depraved 18th century French aristocrats, the Vicomte de Valmont (<a href="/players/P____23590/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Colin Firth</a>) and the Marquise de Merteuil (<a href="/players/P_____5346/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Annette Bening</a>), conspire to destroy several innocent lives, just for the fun of it. But whereas <a href="/players/P____90460/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Stephen Frears</a> concentrated on the machinations of the marquise, Forman, per his film's title, devotes most of his screen space to Valmont (played in the Frears version by <a href="/players/P____44846/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Malkovich</a>). In fact, Forman's film concludes with Valmont's conscience-stricken renunciation of his past sins, and his duel to the death, rather than de Meurteil's well-deserved comeuppance. Forman has chosen to set the story back some 50 years, de-emphasizing the opulence that was vital to Frears' vision; he has also utilized a younger cast. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide1Slightly Tagged (1-5)823http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t21633lx9fd.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Valmont/36689/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/aidanbrack/archive/2008/8/16/34079.aspx Post By: aidanbrack
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Post Date: 8/16/2008 10:24:12 PM
Body: Whilst Milos Forman's picture may have been overshadowed by the success of Dangerous Liaisons a year earlier, this adaptation of the same text is the more beautifully shot and emotional of the two films. This is the story of a scorned woman and a rakish young man. One longs revenge upon her former lover who is about to be married, the other wishes to corrupt a woman who appears the very model of a faithful wife. However he also lusts after her, a former lover, and so finds himself ensnared in her plans. As Valmont, Colin Firth is youthful, playful and vigorous. A ball of energy, he could not be more different from the more aloof, cold performance from Malkovich in Liaisons. The result is that his Valmont is easier to sympathise with and his fate is more affecting for that. Annette Bening, in one of her earliest major roles, is fine as the bitter Marquise de Merteuil, yet it is harder to understand her domination over Valmont. Her performance and mannerisms are softer and more emphasis is placed on her feelings of humiliation stirring on her wickedness, rather than simply her nature. The film features excellent support from Fairuza Balk as the fifteen year old convent girl who is to be married to Merteuil's former lover, and Sian Phillips as her mother. Both are excellent and give strong performances - particularly Balk who invests Cecile with a complexity and depth towards the end of the film. Here she is not simply a victim towards the end, she seems happy to be 'corrupted'. With stunning visuals, locations and costumes, Valmont appears to tick all the right buttons and yet I was left with reservations. With Frear's adaptation I could easily understand its purpose and its meaning, yet Forman's work lacks a clear thread of thought. His characters inspire neither revulsion nor sympathy, the tone here feeling closer to a Tom Jones-like romp than to the tragedy it occassionally threatens to become. Moreover, several characters do not get their comeuppance, nor do the 'victims' seem harmed by their ordeals. The result is a film that entertains and pleases yet never fully satisfies, despite the picture's excellent cast and its high production standards.
]]>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:24:12 GMTaidanbrackThe Bigger Picture8/16/2008 10:24:12 PMWhilst Milos Forman's picture may have been overshadowed by the success of Dangerous Liaisons a year earlier, this adaptation of the same text is the more beautifully shot and emotional of the two films. This is the story of a scorned woman and a rakish young man. One longs revenge upon her former lover who is about to be married, the other wishes to corrupt a woman who appears the very model of a faithful wife. However he also lusts after her, a former lover, and so finds himself ensnared in her plans. As Valmont, Colin Firth is youthful, playful and vigorous. A ball of energy, he could not be more different from the more aloof, cold performance from Malkovich in Liaisons. The result is that his Valmont is easier to sympathise with and his fate is more affecting for that. Annette Bening, in one of her earliest major roles, is fine as the bitter Marquise de Merteuil, yet it is harder to understand her domination over Valmont. Her performance and mannerisms are softer and more emphasis is placed on her feelings of humiliation stirring on her wickedness, rather than simply her nature. The film features excellent support from Fairuza Balk as the fifteen year old convent girl who is to be married to Merteuil's former lover, and Sian Phillips as her mother. Both are excellent and give strong performances - particularly Balk who invests Cecile with a complexity and depth towards the end of the film. Here she is not simply a victim towards the end, she seems happy to be 'corrupted'. With stunning visuals, locations and costumes, Valmont appears to tick all the right buttons and yet I was left with reservations. With Frear's adaptation I could easily understand its purpose and its meaning, yet Forman's work lacks a clear thread of thought. His characters inspire neither revulsion nor sympathy, the tone here feeling closer to a Tom Jones-like romp than to the tragedy it occassionally threatens to become. Moreover, several characters do not get their comeuppance, nor do the 'victims' seem harmed by their ordeals. The result is a film that entertains and pleases yet never fully satisfies, despite the picture's excellent cast and its high production standards. http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/7/24/33020.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Post Date: 7/24/2008 11:01:19 AM
Body: Earlier this year, I thought that it was way too late for a Sex and the City movie. But then it made a ton of cash, so I guess I was wrong. Still, I’m going to continue similarly thinking it’s too late for another X-Files movie. And even if I’m proven wrong and the masses get out to theaters this weekend in search of the truth, I’ll keep on believing that X-Files: I Want to Believe is way past its time. To celebrate Mulder and Scully’s tardiness, here are 10 other movies that came out too late: The Godfather Part III (Released in: 1990; Should have been released in: 1976) - Never mind the fact that had this third installment been made years earlier, Sofia Coppola wouldn’t have been cast and therefore wouldn’t have given her terribly infamous performance. The more important matter is that sequels arriving more than a decade after the previous installment are almost always doomed. The longer the wait, the higher the expectations, and the greater the disappointment. Of course, not everyone agrees that it was also too late for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Live Free or Die Hard, Rambo, Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace, etc. Snakes on a Plane (Released in: 2006; Should have been released in: 2005) - By the time it finally hit theaters, there was already a major backlash to the hype behind SoaP, and that backlash was apparently well-deserved when audiences saw just how lame the movie ended up being. It was an early indicator that a lot of internet buzz and popular viral marketing does not necessarily equal a lot of money at the box office. More than a year later, though, fears of another SoaP-like disappointment came with the hype behind Cloverfield, yet the monster movie fared much better. Of course, no movie seemed to be more ridiculous a web sensation than The Dark Knight, the record-breaking success of which could still prompt more SoaP-type disasters in the future. Home on the Range (Released in: 2004; Should have been released in: 1994) - When you Google the words “ill-timed” “release” and “film”, this is the first thing that comes up, probably because it’s legendary for marking the (temporary) end of 2-D Disney animation. It actually came out almost a decade after the first Pixar feature signaled the doomed future of these kinds of films, and a number of 2-D animations were actually quite successful in that ten years. But Home on the Range is notable for both having begun preproduction before the release of the first Toy Story and for having been announced as the last traditionally animated Disney feature. Now, of course, the studio has changed its mind, so we’ll just have to see if Home on the Range was indeed too late or simply too bad. Infamous (Released in: 2006; Should have been released in: 2005) - One of many unfortunate movies to come out on the heels of another film dealing with the same subject. Similarly late, similarly redundant efforts include Deep Impact, Mars Attacks!, Volcano, The Forbidden Dance, Red Planet, Wyatt Earp and Valmont. But Infamous seemed more the loser of its race because of Phillip Seymour Hoffman’s Oscar win for Capote. The Simpsons Movie (Released in: 2007; Should have been released in: 1997) - It may be funny enough, but this movie still suffered a bit from being past the TV series’ prime. A lot more people would have been a lot more excited about the spin-off if it had come out ten years earlier. The Onion Movie (Released in 2008; Should have been released in: 2003) - Should this not be included because it actually never came out in theaters in the U.S.? Whatever. I’m still accepting it as one of the worst examples of shelving a film for way too long. From the unbearable bits I attempted to watch, the jokes were quite dated, though I have to admit they might not have been all that funny when (mostly) filmed five years ago. As an alternate, in case you don’t accept this title: The Adventures of Pluto Nash, which was also shelved for a few years, but which was probably made too late anyway. Get Smart (Released in 2008; Should have been released in: 1978) - When it opened earlier this summer, I wrote a list about how this movie was obsolete before it was even made. Check out those 10 reasons here. Eyes Wide Shut (Released in: 1999; Should have been released in: 1998) - It may still have been received as poorly, but if this film had been able to be finished and to come out before Stanley Kubrick’s death, it might have at least been a stronger work. Angela’s Ashes (Released in: 1999; Should have been released in: 1995) - How long is too late for a film adaptation of a best-selling book? Considering there are still successful movies based on works such as “The Iliad” and “Beowulf”, there’s apparently no limit. But for some reason this cinematic version of Frank McCourt’s wildly popular memoir bombed at the box office. I guess compared to those early works, “Angela’s Ashes” had been read by everyone in America by the time the movie arrived, and few of its fans needed to go through the depressing events a second time. Glitter (Released in: 2001; Should have been released in: 1991) - Maybe if it had opened before 9/11, as it was supposed to, instead of directly following the tragedy. Or, better yet, maybe if it had opened in the mid ’90s before people stopped giving a damn about Mariah, it wouldn’t have bombed so horribly. Actually, because Mariah eventually became popular again, and thanks to VH1, so did the 1980s, Glitter may also be considered a movie that was too early. Perhaps one day it can find success as a Broadway show, a la Xanadu. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:19 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com7/24/2008 11:01:19 AM Earlier this year, I thought that it was way too late for a Sex and the City movie. But then it made a ton of cash, so I guess I was wrong. Still, I’m going to continue similarly thinking it’s too late for another X-Files movie. And even if I’m proven wrong and the masses get out to theaters this weekend in search of the truth, I’ll keep on believing that X-Files: I Want to Believe is way past its time. To celebrate Mulder and Scully’s tardiness, here are 10 other movies that came out too late: The Godfather Part III (Released in: 1990; Should have been released in: 1976) - Never mind the fact that had this third installment been made years earlier, Sofia Coppola wouldn’t have been cast and therefore wouldn’t have given her terribly infamous performance. The more important matter is that sequels arriving more than a decade after the previous installment are almost always doomed. The longer the wait, the higher the expectations, and the greater the disappointment. Of course, not everyone agrees that it was also too late for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Live Free or Die Hard, Rambo, Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace, etc. Snakes on a Plane (Released in: 2006; Should have been released in: 2005) - By the time it finally hit theaters, there was already a major backlash to the hype behind SoaP, and that backlash was apparently well-deserved when audiences saw just how lame the movie ended up being. It was an early indicator that a lot of internet buzz and popular viral marketing does not necessarily equal a lot of money at the box office. More than a year later, though, fears of another SoaP-like disappointment came with the hype behind Cloverfield, yet the monster movie fared much better. Of course, no movie seemed to be more ridiculous a web sensation than The Dark Knight, the record-breaking success of which could still prompt more SoaP-type disasters in the future. Home on the Range (Released in: 2004; Should have been released in: 1994) - When you Google the words “ill-timed” “release” and “film”, this is the first thing that comes up, probably because it’s legendary for marking the (temporary) end of 2-D Disney animation. It actually came out almost a decade after the first Pixar feature signaled the doomed future of these kinds of films, and a number of 2-D animations were actually quite successful in that ten years. But Home on the Range is notable for both having begun preproduction before the release of the first Toy Story and for having been announced as the last traditionally animated Disney feature. Now, of course, the studio has changed its mind, so we’ll just have to see if Home on the Range was indeed too late or simply too bad. Infamous (Released in: 2006; Should have been released in: 2005) - One of many unfortunate movies to come out on the heels of another film dealing with the same subject. Similarly late, similarly redundant efforts include Deep Impact, Mars Attacks!, Volcano, The Forbidden Dance, Red Planet, Wyatt Earp and Valmont. But Infamous seemed more the loser of its race because of Phillip Seymour Hoffman’s Oscar win for Capote. The Simpsons Movie (Released in: 2007; Should have been released in: 1997) - It may be funny enough, but this movie still suffered a bit from being past the TV series’ prime. A lot more people would have been a lot more excited about the spin-off if it had come out ten years earlier. The Onion Movie (Released in 2008; Should have been released in: 2003) - Should this not be included because it actually never came out in theaters in the U.S.? Whatever. I’m still accepting it as one of the worst examples of shelving a film for way too long. From the unbearable bits I attempted to watch, the jokes were quite dated, though I have to admit they might not have been all that funny when (mostly) filmed five years ago. As an alternate, in case you don’t accept this title: The Adventures of Pluto Nash, which was also shelved for a few years, but which was probably made too late anyway. Get Smart (Released in 2008; Should have been released in: 1978) - When it opened earlier this summer, I wrote a list about how this movie was obsolete before it was even made. Check out those 10 reasons here. Eyes Wide Shut (Released in: 1999; Should have been released in: 1998) - It may still have been received as poorly, but if this film had been able to be finished and to come out before Stanley Kubrick’s death, it might have at least been a stronger work. Angela’s Ashes (Released in: 1999; Should have been released in: 1995) - How long is too late for a film adaptation of a best-selling book? Considering there are still successful movies based on works such as “The Iliad” and “Beowulf”, there’s apparently no limit. But for some reason this cinematic version of Frank McCourt’s wildly popular memoir bombed at the box office. I guess compared to those early works, “Angela’s Ashes” had been read by everyone in America by the time the movie arrived, and few of its fans needed to go through the depressing events a second time. Glitter (Released in: 2001; Should have been released in: 1991) - Maybe if it had opened before 9/11, as it was supposed to, instead of directly following the tragedy. Or, better yet, maybe if it had opened in the mid ’90s before people stopped giving a damn about Mariah, it wouldn’t have bombed so horribly. Actually, because Mariah eventually became popular again, and thanks to VH1, so did the 1980s, Glitter may also be considered a movie that was too early. Perhaps one day it can find success as a Broadway show, a la Xanadu. 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