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Year: 1968
Director: Jean-Luc Godard
Plot: Jean-Luc Godard's Sympathy for the Devil, also known as One Plus One, uses both documentary and staged sequences, alternating between an inside look at a rock band's recording process and reflections on contemporary politics and aesthetics. One half of the film focuses on the Rolling Stones, as they rehearse and ultimately record the song that would become "Sympathy for the Devil." By presenting repeated takes of the entire composition, the film allows the viewer to witness the progressive evolution of the song from its original, slower conception to the more percussive version that became the final recording. The other half of the film -- which is occasionally accompanied by the song -- presents a series of sequences dealing with issues like black power, pornography, racism, and Marxism, amongst others. These sequences, which often focus on a group of revolutionary youth in Paris, provide a chance for Godard to inject political commentary and meta-fictional musings on the nature of cinema. These more cerebral scenes serve as counterpoint to the direct presentation of the creative process seen in the Stones' studio sessions, and provide oblique commentary on the political meanings of popular music. ~ Judd Blaise, All Movie Guide
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]]>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:29:39 GMTSympathy for the Devil1968Jean-Luc Godard<a href="/players/P____91804/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Jean-Luc Godard</a>'s Sympathy for the Devil, also known as <a href=/films/25496/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>One Plus One</a>, uses both documentary and staged sequences, alternating between an inside look at a rock band's recording process and reflections on contemporary politics and aesthetics. One half of the film focuses on the Rolling Stones, as they rehearse and ultimately record the song that would become "Sympathy for the Devil." By presenting repeated takes of the entire composition, the film allows the viewer to witness the progressive evolution of the song from its original, slower conception to the more percussive version that became the final recording. The other half of the film -- which is occasionally accompanied by the song -- presents a series of sequences dealing with issues like black power, pornography, racism, and Marxism, amongst others. These sequences, which often focus on a group of revolutionary youth in Paris, provide a chance for Godard to inject political commentary and meta-fictional musings on the nature of cinema. These more cerebral scenes serve as counterpoint to the direct presentation of the creative process seen in the Stones' studio sessions, and provide oblique commentary on the political meanings of popular music. ~ Judd Blaise, All Movie Guide3Slightly Tagged (1-5)123http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t36811tqxd1.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Sympathy_for_the_Devil/33900/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Philosophy_of_Film/Re_Waking_Life_An_animated_Philosophy_101/281/6976/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Body: [quote user="quint"]Godard's more rambling, political flings like Tout Va Bien, Sympathy for the Devil and more recently Notre Musique are in this class of 'movies of ideas". For that matter, isn't My Dinner with Andre the most popular movie in this vein? I love these sorts of films. I've watched Waking Life a couple times now and it's a treat because it doesn't let me be passive to the experience. I have to engage intellectually with the subject matter or I'm just lost, staring blankly at the screen until I fall asleep. I think that's okay. It's a different sort of engagement than most people expect. On the flipside, I found What the #$*! Do We Know?! to be completely tiresome and even condescending. If you're going to throw me in the deep water, save the water wings.[/quote]Yeah I forgot about My Dinner With Andre. Amazing how a feature length movie with just two people sitting and talking in a restaurant with no other interruption or plot can be so much more engrossing than the majority of films that are given astronomical budgets.I've seen What the #$*! Do We Know?! and not only did I find the narrative portion of the film to be both pretentious and pandering (and WTF was with that horrible wedding scene with the dancing CGI blobs?), everything that the "experts" were saying had no central theme and were often at odds with eachother. I couldn't believe it at the end when they showed these people's credentials and the one who spoke the most and with the most authority was a chiropractor.But the most rediculous part of all was Ramtha! Here's a description of who this person is from wikipedia:Ramtha is an entity that JZ Knight, an American self-claimed spiritual medium claims to channel. According to Knight, Ramtha was a Lemurian warrior who raised an army and fought against the tyrants of the times, the Atlanteans, over 35,000 years ago. Ramtha led an army of over 2.5 million across the continents, conquering 2/3 of the known world, which was going through cataclysmic geological changes. According to his teachings, he led the army for ten years until he was betrayed and almost killed.Knight further claims that Ramtha spent the next seven years in isolation recovering and observing nature, among other things. He later mastered many skills, including foresight and out-of-body experiences, until he led his army to the Indus River when aged in his late seventies. Ramtha taught them everything he knew for 120 days, before he ascended before them. He made a promise to his army that he would come back to teach them again, and so he appeared to JZ Knight in 1977 to re-educate the "forgotten gods", those who had forgotten themselves and their divinity.When you dig deeper and see how the movie was made and funded, it appears as though the movie is basically a big advertisement to get people more interested in this woman so that a few suckers might shell out some cash for some of the products and conventions she does.There's interesting stuff about it at Roger Ebert's site too if you do some research.Now I'm all about many many of the things proposed in this movie, but overall this movie is just rediculous.
]]>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:10:42 GMTRisseladaPhilosophy of Film4/12/2007 3:10:42 PM[quote user="quint"]Godard&#39;s more rambling, political flings like Tout Va Bien, Sympathy for the Devil and more recently Notre Musique are in this class of &#39;movies of ideas". For that matter, isn&#39;t My Dinner with Andre the most popular movie in this vein? I love these sorts of films. I&#39;ve watched Waking Life a couple times now and it&#39;s a treat because it doesn&#39;t let me be passive to the experience. I have to engage intellectually with the subject matter or I&#39;m just lost, staring blankly at the screen until I fall asleep. I think that&#39;s okay. It&#39;s a different sort of engagement than most people expect. On the flipside, I found What the #$*! Do We Know?! to be completely tiresome and even condescending. If you&#39;re going to throw me in the deep water, save the water wings.[/quote]Yeah I forgot about My Dinner With Andre. Amazing how a feature length movie with just two people sitting and talking in a restaurant with no other interruption or plot can be so much more engrossing than the majority of films that are given astronomical budgets.I&#39;ve seen What the #$*! Do We Know?! and not only did I find the narrative portion of the film to be both pretentious and pandering (and WTF was with that horrible wedding scene with the dancing CGI blobs?), everything that the "experts" were saying had no central theme and were often at odds with eachother. I couldn&#39;t believe it at the end when they showed these people&#39;s credentials and the one who spoke the most and with the most authority was a chiropractor.But the most rediculous part of all was Ramtha! Here&#39;s a description of who this person is from wikipedia:Ramtha is an entity that JZ Knight, an American self-claimed spiritual medium claims to channel. According to Knight, Ramtha was a Lemurian warrior who raised an army and fought against the tyrants of the times, the Atlanteans, over 35,000 years ago. Ramtha led an army of over 2.5 million across the continents, conquering 2/3 of the known world, which was going through cataclysmic geological changes. According to his teachings, he led the army for ten years until he was betrayed and almost killed.Knight further claims that Ramtha spent the next seven years in isolation recovering and observing nature, among other things. He later mastered many skills, including foresight and out-of-body experiences, until he led his army to the Indus River when aged in his late seventies. Ramtha taught them everything he knew for 120 days, before he ascended before them. He made a promise to his army that he would come back to teach them again, and so he appeared to JZ Knight in 1977 to re-educate the "forgotten gods", those who had forgotten themselves and their divinity.When you dig deeper and see how the movie was made and funded, it appears as though the movie is basically a big advertisement to get people more interested in this woman so that a few suckers might shell out some cash for some of the products and conventions she does.There&#39;s interesting stuff about it at Roger Ebert&#39;s site too if you do some research.Now I&#39;m all about many many of the things proposed in this movie, but overall this movie is just rediculous. http://www.spout.com/groups/Philosophy_of_Film/Re_Waking_Life_An_animated_Philosophy_101/281/6954/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: quint
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Body: Godard's more rambling, political flings like Tout Va Bien, Sympathy for the Devil and more recently Notre Musique are in this class of 'movies of ideas". For that matter, isn't My Dinner with Andre the most popular movie in this vein? I love these sorts of films. I've watched Waking Life a couple times now and it's a treat because it doesn't let me be passive to the experience. I have to engage intellectually with the subject matter or I'm just lost, staring blankly at the screen until I fall asleep. I think that's okay. It's a different sort of engagement than most people expect. On the flipside, I found What the #$*! Do We Know?! to be completely tiresome and even condescending. If you're going to throw me in the deep water, save the water wings.
]]>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:15:39 GMTquintPhilosophy of Film4/12/2007 10:15:39 AMGodard&#39;s more rambling, political flings like Tout Va Bien, Sympathy for the Devil and more recently Notre Musique are in this class of &#39;movies of ideas". For that matter, isn&#39;t My Dinner with Andre the most popular movie in this vein? I love these sorts of films. I&#39;ve watched Waking Life a couple times now and it&#39;s a treat because it doesn&#39;t let me be passive to the experience. I have to engage intellectually with the subject matter or I&#39;m just lost, staring blankly at the screen until I fall asleep. I think that&#39;s okay. It&#39;s a different sort of engagement than most people expect. On the flipside, I found What the #$*! Do We Know?! to be completely tiresome and even condescending. If you&#39;re going to throw me in the deep water, save the water wings. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/Boring/MemberTagFilms.aspxBoring
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