list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around St. Elmo's Fire on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/St_Elmo_s_Fire/32571/default.aspx Title: St. Elmo's Fire
Year: 1985
Director: Joel Schumacher
Plot: Post-collegiate angst, '80s style, is the subject of this coming-of-age ensemble piece, which traces the fortunes of a group of Georgetown grads as they enter the real world and grapple with work, infidelity, and adulthood. The most outwardly upscale member of the gang, Jules (Demi Moore), hides a plethora of emotional baggage behind a chic wardrobe, an expensive apartment, a fashionable drug habit, and lots of meaningless casual sex. Her friend Wendy (Mare Winningham) has the opposite problem; a trust-fund baby with body-image issues and little sexual experience, she's hung up on Billy (Rob Lowe), a no-good, sax-playing drunkard who can't face up to his responsibilities in the job market or at home with his wife and young child. Such open infidelity is anathema to Alex (Judd Nelson), who must maintain a sense of propriety even while engaging in compulsive womanizing; after all, the Democrat-turned-Republican's nascent political career requires the sort of picture-perfect relationship he shares with girlfriend Leslie (Ally Sheedy). That doesn't sit too well with tortured writer Kevin (Andrew McCarthy), who toils away at a newspaper job and pines away for the unattainable Leslie. Unrequited love also dogs Kirby (Emilio Estevez), a law-school student whose greatest wish is to romance classy doctor Dale Biberman (Andie MacDowell), who is, alas, way out of his league. Co-written by director Joel Schumacher and his studio intern, Carl Kurlander, St. Elmo's Fire spawned the number one pop hit "St. Elmo's Fire (Man in Motion)," which was credited to John Parr but co-written by music producer David Foster. ~ Brian J. Dillard, All Movie Guide
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]]>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:59:45 GMTSt. Elmo's Fire1985Joel SchumacherPost-collegiate angst, '80s style, is the subject of this coming-of-age ensemble piece, which traces the fortunes of a group of Georgetown grads as they enter the real world and grapple with work, infidelity, and adulthood. The most outwardly upscale member of the gang, Jules (<a href="/players/P___103370/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Demi Moore</a>), hides a plethora of emotional baggage behind a chic wardrobe, an expensive apartment, a fashionable drug habit, and lots of meaningless casual sex. Her friend Wendy (<a href="/players/P____76959/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Mare Winningham</a>) has the opposite problem; a trust-fund baby with body-image issues and little sexual experience, she's hung up on Billy (<a href="/players/P____43513/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Rob Lowe</a>), a no-good, sax-playing drunkard who can't face up to his responsibilities in the job market or at home with his wife and young child. Such open infidelity is anathema to Alex (<a href="/players/P____52196/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Judd Nelson</a>), who must maintain a sense of propriety even while engaging in compulsive womanizing; after all, the Democrat-turned-Republican's nascent political career requires the sort of picture-perfect relationship he shares with girlfriend Leslie (<a href="/players/P____65029/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ally Sheedy</a>). That doesn't sit too well with tortured writer Kevin (<a href="/players/P____46943/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Andrew McCarthy</a>), who toils away at a newspaper job and pines away for the unattainable Leslie. Unrequited love also dogs Kirby (<a href="/players/P____89157/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Emilio Estevez</a>), a law-school student whose greatest wish is to romance classy doctor Dale Biberman (<a href="/players/P____44167/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Andie MacDowell</a>), who is, alas, way out of his league. Co-written by director <a href="/players/P___110432/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Joel Schumacher</a> and his studio intern, Carl Kurlander, St. Elmo's Fire spawned the number one pop hit "St. Elmo's Fire (Man in Motion)," which was credited to John Parr but co-written by music producer David Foster. ~ Brian J. Dillard, All Movie Guide12Tag Target (>10)1943http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t14083p5cq6.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/St_Elmo_s_Fire/32571/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Filmgaming/Re_Recast_GARDEN_STATE_2004/563/36583/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: seely
Post To: Filmgaming
Post Date: 10/22/2008 2:36:05 PM
Body: I think I'm up for this one. 'Garden State' always made me think of the 80's Brat Pack films, especially St. Elmo's Fire. Therefore, in honor of that great time in history, I submit to you: Brat Pack Garden State, written and directed by John Hughes -Andrew Largeman: John Cusack (think 'Say Anything' but a few years older) -Gideon Largeman: Peter Falk -Aunt Sylvia Largeman: Miriam Flynn -Sam: Juliette Lewis (she had that mysterious/intriguing aura about her)* *I need to ammend this. Juliette Lewis, although clearly good for the role, would have been about 10 at this time. I originally was going to use Ally Sheedy, and I think I'm going to have to go back to her. I think she'd be just as good, honestly. -Olivia: Beverly d'Angelo -Titembay: Gedde Watanabe (he would probably be called 'Wang Chung' or something stereotypical, instead of 'Titembay' in keeping with his being Asian) -Mark: Judd Nelson, of course. -Dave: Andrew McCarthy -Doorman/Diego: John Candy (a departure from the original vision, but I think he would have been hilarious) Bonus Alternate: Slick Rick (80's rapper w/ double bonus eyepatch) -Carol: Amy Madigan -Tim: Anthony Michael Hall, naturally. Bonus Cameos: -Kelly: Molly Ringwald (its obvious) -Receptionist: Edie McClurg (only role she ever plays it seems) [quote user="SkyPilot"] Let's recast Garden State (2004) in honor of Kevin Smith. I know what you're thinking: why would we recast a Zach Braff movie in honor of Kevin Smith? Let me explain...Smith became famous for his "New Jersey series," which includes the cult classics Clerks (1994), Mallrats (1995), and Chasing Amy (1997). As you may know, New Jersey is known as "the Garden State." So yeah, the connection's a stretch. If you want to recast a Kevin Smith movie, have at it. Spout will give away two prizes, one for the best Garden State recast and one for the best Kevin Smith movie recast. Are you guys excited for Kevin Smith's Zack and Miri Make a Porno (10/31)? To be honest, I've never liked Kevin Smith. I really like Seth Rogen though, so I might end up seeing it. GARDEN STATE Zach Braff ... Andrew Largeman Natalie Portman ... Sam Peter Sarsgaard ... Mark (the gravedigger) Armando Riesco ... (the flaming arrow archer Ian Holm ... Gideon Largeman Jean Smart ... Carol Method Man ... Diego Ann Dowd ... Olivia Ato Essandoh ... Titembay Jackie Hoffman ... Aunt Sylvia Largema Jim Parsons ... Tim Denis O'Hare ... Albert [/quote]
]]>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:36:05 GMTseelyFilmgaming10/22/2008 2:36:05 PMI think I'm up for this one. 'Garden State' always made me think of the 80's Brat Pack films, especially St. Elmo's Fire. Therefore, in honor of that great time in history, I submit to you: Brat Pack Garden State, written and directed by John Hughes -Andrew Largeman: John Cusack (think 'Say Anything' but a few years older) -Gideon Largeman: Peter Falk -Aunt Sylvia Largeman: Miriam Flynn -Sam: Juliette Lewis (she had that mysterious/intriguing aura about her)* *I need to ammend this. Juliette Lewis, although clearly good for the role, would have been about 10 at this time. I originally was going to use Ally Sheedy, and I think I'm going to have to go back to her. I think she'd be just as good, honestly. -Olivia: Beverly d'Angelo -Titembay: Gedde Watanabe (he would probably be called 'Wang Chung' or something stereotypical, instead of 'Titembay' in keeping with his being Asian) -Mark: Judd Nelson, of course. -Dave: Andrew McCarthy -Doorman/Diego: John Candy (a departure from the original vision, but I think he would have been hilarious) Bonus Alternate: Slick Rick (80's rapper w/ double bonus eyepatch) -Carol: Amy Madigan -Tim: Anthony Michael Hall, naturally. Bonus Cameos: -Kelly: Molly Ringwald (its obvious) -Receptionist: Edie McClurg (only role she ever plays it seems) [quote user="SkyPilot"] Let's recast Garden State (2004) in honor of Kevin Smith. I know what you're thinking: why would we recast a Zach Braff movie in honor of Kevin Smith? Let me explain...Smith became famous for his "New Jersey series," which includes the cult classics Clerks (1994), Mallrats (1995), and Chasing Amy (1997). As you may know, New Jersey is known as "the Garden State." So yeah, the connection's a stretch. If you want to recast a Kevin Smith movie, have at it. Spout will give away two prizes, one for the best Garden State recast and one for the best Kevin Smith movie recast. Are you guys excited for Kevin Smith's Zack and Miri Make a Porno (10/31)? To be honest, I've never liked Kevin Smith. I really like Seth Rogen though, so I might end up seeing it. GARDEN STATE Zach Braff ... Andrew Largeman Natalie Portman ... Sam Peter Sarsgaard ... Mark (the gravedigger) Armando Riesco ... (the flaming arrow archer Ian Holm ... Gideon Largeman Jean Smart ... Carol Method Man ... Diego Ann Dowd ... Olivia Ato Essandoh ... Titembay Jackie Hoffman ... Aunt Sylvia Largema Jim Parsons ... Tim Denis O'Hare ... Albert [/quote] http://www.spout.com/groups/Grew_up_in_the_80_s/Re_80s_films_that_described_adulthood_to_you/38/36441/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: seely
Post To: Grew up in the 80's
Post Date: 10/17/2008 11:03:55 AM
Body: I don't really have any specific films to add, but the general concencus of 80's films seemed to be that growing up sucks. I really think a quote from The Wonder Years sums it up best: "When you're a little kid you're a bit of everything; Scientist, Philosopher, Artist. Sometimes it seems like growing up is giving these things up one at a time." It seems most 80's films in one way dealt more or less with a resistance to the idea of selling out to adulthood, and all that it entails. St. Elmo's fire definitely qualifies in that category. [quote user="filmgal81"] Ok, my fellow 80s children, what film described what you thought adulthood would be like when you were a kid? In your infinite wisdom,wise sage that you've become, do you think the film was a)right on the money or b) did it leave you not knowing what you'd be in for after highschool? I think my film choice would be St. Elmo's Fire. The film had the "no one knows what the heck they're doing now that they've graduated with a bunch of degrees that cant use in the real world" thing about it that was pretty accurate, overall. There was still some of that John Hughes-esque angst to it that was also pretty accurate, at least during the initial post college Exodus, which actually makes me wonder if folks ever evolve past a certain point. Maybe some do, maybe some don't. [/quote]
]]>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:03:55 GMTseelyGrew up in the 80's10/17/2008 11:03:55 AMI don't really have any specific films to add, but the general concencus of 80's films seemed to be that growing up sucks. I really think a quote from The Wonder Years sums it up best: "When you're a little kid you're a bit of everything; Scientist, Philosopher, Artist. Sometimes it seems like growing up is giving these things up one at a time." It seems most 80's films in one way dealt more or less with a resistance to the idea of selling out to adulthood, and all that it entails. St. Elmo's fire definitely qualifies in that category. [quote user="filmgal81"] Ok, my fellow 80s children, what film described what you thought adulthood would be like when you were a kid? In your infinite wisdom,wise sage that you've become, do you think the film was a)right on the money or b) did it leave you not knowing what you'd be in for after highschool? I think my film choice would be St. Elmo's Fire. The film had the "no one knows what the heck they're doing now that they've graduated with a bunch of degrees that cant use in the real world" thing about it that was pretty accurate, overall. There was still some of that John Hughes-esque angst to it that was also pretty accurate, at least during the initial post college Exodus, which actually makes me wonder if folks ever evolve past a certain point. Maybe some do, maybe some don't. [/quote] http://www.spout.com/groups/Grew_up_in_the_80_s/80s_films_that_described_adulthood_to_you/38/36430/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: filmgal81
Post To: Grew up in the 80's
Post Date: 10/17/2008 6:48:22 AM
Body: Ok, my fellow 80s children, what film described what you thought adulthood would be like when you were a kid? In your infinite wisdom,wise sage that you've become, do you think the film was a)right on the money or b) did it leave you not knowing what you'd be in for after highschool? I think my film choice would be St. Elmo's Fire. The film had the "no one knows what the heck they're doing now that they've graduated with a bunch of degrees that cant use in the real world" thing about it that was pretty accurate, overall. There was still some of that John Hughes-esque angst to it that was also pretty accurate, at least during the initial post college Exodus, which actually makes me wonder if folks ever evolve past a certain point. Maybe some do, maybe some don't.
]]>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:48:22 GMTfilmgal81Grew up in the 80's10/17/2008 6:48:22 AMOk, my fellow 80s children, what film described what you thought adulthood would be like when you were a kid? In your infinite wisdom,wise sage that you've become, do you think the film was a)right on the money or b) did it leave you not knowing what you'd be in for after highschool? I think my film choice would be St. Elmo's Fire. The film had the "no one knows what the heck they're doing now that they've graduated with a bunch of degrees that cant use in the real world" thing about it that was pretty accurate, overall. There was still some of that John Hughes-esque angst to it that was also pretty accurate, at least during the initial post college Exodus, which actually makes me wonder if folks ever evolve past a certain point. Maybe some do, maybe some don't. http://www.spout.com/groups/Grew_up_in_the_80_s/Re_Top_5_Favorites_of_the_80_s/38/35587/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: filmgal81
Post To: Grew up in the 80's
Post Date: 9/26/2008 12:41:12 PM
Body: Oh, this is a good one! I must say The Princess Bride is probably at the top of my 80s list. It has everything ( and something for everyone): comedy, drama, suspense, true love, miracles ( to paraphrase a line from the Grandfather). I can watch it time and again, and I love it for different reasons every time. Another good one would have to be Nausicaa ( The Valley of the Wind). A complicated apocalyptic future (although we are getting and closer to that every year- all that's missing is the giant bugs) beautifully drawn in anime. Plus, the princess was completely bad ass- which was ( and still is ) fairly unusual. St. Elmo's Fire takes the #3 spot. A great look at post college life , in true 80s style, where you still don't have a clue but you no longer have the excuse of " I'm still a student" to calm your fears about life after school. For Keeps holds at #4- unraveling a yarn about the consequences of unprotected teen sex as only the 80s and Molly Ringwald can ( woo hoo!) Annie brings up the rear at #5- the singing the dancing, the orphans- what's not to love?? So, there you have it: the 80s summed in 5 movies about childhood, teendom, adulthood, fantasy and the future.
]]>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:41:12 GMTfilmgal81Grew up in the 80's9/26/2008 12:41:12 PMOh, this is a good one! I must say The Princess Bride is probably at the top of my 80s list. It has everything ( and something for everyone): comedy, drama, suspense, true love, miracles ( to paraphrase a line from the Grandfather). I can watch it time and again, and I love it for different reasons every time. Another good one would have to be Nausicaa ( The Valley of the Wind). A complicated apocalyptic future (although we are getting and closer to that every year- all that's missing is the giant bugs) beautifully drawn in anime. Plus, the princess was completely bad ass- which was ( and still is ) fairly unusual. St. Elmo's Fire takes the #3 spot. A great look at post college life , in true 80s style, where you still don't have a clue but you no longer have the excuse of " I'm still a student" to calm your fears about life after school. For Keeps holds at #4- unraveling a yarn about the consequences of unprotected teen sex as only the 80s and Molly Ringwald can ( woo hoo!) Annie brings up the rear at #5- the singing the dancing, the orphans- what's not to love?? So, there you have it: the 80s summed in 5 movies about childhood, teendom, adulthood, fantasy and the future. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/friendship/MemberTagFilms.aspxfriendship
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