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      <title>Film:Shoeshine</title>
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<strong>Title:</strong> Shoeshine<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1947<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Vittorio De Sica<br/>
<strong>Plot:</strong> Vittorio DeSica's Shoeshine (Sciuscia) is a must-see example of Italian neorealist cinema, ranking with such other neorealist classics as DeSica's Bicycle Thieves (1948) and Umberto D. (1952) and <a href="/players/P___109008/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Roberto Rossellini</a>'s Rome, Open City (1945). Using nonprofessional actors, DeSica and co-screenwriter <a href="/players/P___117861/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Cesare Zavattini</a>, also one of neorealism's leading figures, paint an uncompromising picture of the lives of Italian street children abandoned by their parents at the end of World War II. The film concentrates on two such children, Giuseppe (Rinaldo Smerdoni) and Pasquale (<a href="/players/P____34499/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Franco Interlenghi</a>). With no one else to turn to, the boys form a solid friendship, as well as a "corporation" of sorts: they eke out a living shining the boots of American GIs. The boys' hope for a rosier future is manifested in their dreams of owning a beautiful white horse. This, along with all their other aspirations, is eradicated when the boys are inadvertently shipped off to a reformatory. A failure in Italy (director DeSica noted that postwar Italian audiences preferred the glossy escapism emanating from Hollywood), Shoeshine was a huge success worldwide, as well as the winner of a special Academy Awards. Like Bicycle Thieves, it combines DeSica's frequent focus on children with his emphasis on post-war social problems. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 4<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 3<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 1<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 4<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:50:57 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Shoeshine</spout:Title><spout:Year>1947</spout:Year><spout:Director>Vittorio De Sica</spout:Director><spout:Plot>Vittorio DeSica's Shoeshine (Sciuscia) is a must-see example of Italian neorealist cinema, ranking with such other neorealist classics as DeSica's Bicycle Thieves (1948) and Umberto D. (1952) and &lt;a href="/players/P___109008/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Roberto Rossellini&lt;/a&gt;'s Rome, Open City (1945). Using nonprofessional actors, DeSica and co-screenwriter &lt;a href="/players/P___117861/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Cesare Zavattini&lt;/a&gt;, also one of neorealism's leading figures, paint an uncompromising picture of the lives of Italian street children abandoned by their parents at the end of World War II. The film concentrates on two such children, Giuseppe (Rinaldo Smerdoni) and Pasquale (&lt;a href="/players/P____34499/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Franco Interlenghi&lt;/a&gt;). With no one else to turn to, the boys form a solid friendship, as well as a "corporation" of sorts: they eke out a living shining the boots of American GIs. The boys' hope for a rosier future is manifested in their dreams of owning a beautiful white horse. This, along with all their other aspirations, is eradicated when the boys are inadvertently shipped off to a reformatory. A failure in Italy (director DeSica noted that postwar Italian audiences preferred the glossy escapism emanating from Hollywood), Shoeshine was a huge success worldwide, as well as the winner of a special Academy Awards. Like Bicycle Thieves, it combines DeSica's frequent focus on children with his emphasis on post-war social problems. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide</spout:Plot><spout:TimesTagged>4</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Slightly Tagged (1-5)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>3</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>2</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>1</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>4</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t23147te85q.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Shoeshine/31124/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: director ratings - Vittorio De Sica - Una breve vacanza (A Brief Vacation)</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/risselada/archive/2009/7/20/43199.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t23147te85q.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/5353/default.aspx'>Risselada</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 7/20/2009 1:50:57 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> This is the fourth feature length film I've seen by director Vittorio De Sica.  I chose to watch this film based on previous good ratings I've given other films by this director and to better my favorite directors by algorithm listing. Una breve vacanza (A Brief Vacation) My previous three film experiences from Vittorio De Sica were from his earlier and probably most acclaimed neo-realism period of the late 40s/early 50s, specifically Shoe-Shine, The Bicycle Thief, and Umberto D.  All of them being fantastic, the latter two being perfect masterpieces. Jump a couple decades into the future with this, his second to last film.  I'm not sure what a lot of his films in between were like.  I suspect some of them may have been a bit livelier since many are billed as comedies, in which case this may have been a bit of a return to form.  The beginning of the film seems very familiar setting in a simple and somewhat impoverished abode.  Despite this, it's hard to like or feel much sympathy for the protagonist Clara or anyone else at the beginning of the film.  She seems so upset, although we can't quite tell if her attitude is justified yet.  Soon however we see what a rather kind hearted person she is and how much she has to put up with. Actually there are a lot of cases in this film of feeling one way towards a character when we are first introduced to them and then completely different by the end.  For instance, the rich and egotistical woman singer is completely obnoxious and unlikeable at first.  I thought I would hate the movie because of her and that fact that I was so annoyed whenever she appeared on screen.  Shocking to find that she would be one of the most sympathetic characters by the end.  Unfortunately a few characters came off a bit one dimensional and almost unbelievable unlikeable for the purpose of producing specific emotions.  The portrayal of the Clara's annoying and selfish family was almost as bad as the girl boxer's family in the horrible Million Dollar Baby. Like films like The Bicycle Thief, this film does a great job at showing a rather harsh world of working class Italy.  Unlike most of that film however, we at least get a brief vacation.  Brief because by the end of the film it's over and we are thrust back into that world once more. Vittorio De Sica:Total feature length films seen: 4Previous average film score: 9.6667New average film score: 9.25 Rating: 8/10<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:50:57 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>Risselada</spout:postby><spout:postto>Risselada Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>7/20/2009 1:50:57 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>This is the fourth feature length film I've seen by director Vittorio De Sica.  I chose to watch this film based on previous good ratings I've given other films by this director and to better my favorite directors by algorithm listing. Una breve vacanza (A Brief Vacation) My previous three film experiences from Vittorio De Sica were from his earlier and probably most acclaimed neo-realism period of the late 40s/early 50s, specifically Shoe-Shine, The Bicycle Thief, and Umberto D.  All of them being fantastic, the latter two being perfect masterpieces. Jump a couple decades into the future with this, his second to last film.  I'm not sure what a lot of his films in between were like.  I suspect some of them may have been a bit livelier since many are billed as comedies, in which case this may have been a bit of a return to form.  The beginning of the film seems very familiar setting in a simple and somewhat impoverished abode.  Despite this, it's hard to like or feel much sympathy for the protagonist Clara or anyone else at the beginning of the film.  She seems so upset, although we can't quite tell if her attitude is justified yet.  Soon however we see what a rather kind hearted person she is and how much she has to put up with. Actually there are a lot of cases in this film of feeling one way towards a character when we are first introduced to them and then completely different by the end.  For instance, the rich and egotistical woman singer is completely obnoxious and unlikeable at first.  I thought I would hate the movie because of her and that fact that I was so annoyed whenever she appeared on screen.  Shocking to find that she would be one of the most sympathetic characters by the end.  Unfortunately a few characters came off a bit one dimensional and almost unbelievable unlikeable for the purpose of producing specific emotions.  The portrayal of the Clara's annoying and selfish family was almost as bad as the girl boxer's family in the horrible Million Dollar Baby. Like films like The Bicycle Thief, this film does a great job at showing a rather harsh world of working class Italy.  Unlike most of that film however, we at least get a brief vacation.  Brief because by the end of the film it's over and we are thrust back into that world once more. Vittorio De Sica:Total feature length films seen: 4Previous average film score: 9.6667New average film score: 9.25 Rating: 8/10</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:Which of these film movments have produced films that you enjoy the most?</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/Re_Which_of_these_film_movments_have_produced_film/657/40557/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t23147te85q.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/5353/default.aspx'>Risselada</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 2/19/2009 3:15:26 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> [quote user="pippin06"] This is out of my league too.  I consider myself an average to above average filmgoer/viewer but am not sure if I've seen anything in any category (maybe I have and I didn't know it...but maybe not).  Like I said, I saw a lot of French films in college, but who knows if they fall under New Wave or something like that... ...but maybe we could somehow start a discussion somewhere where people schooled in these film schools could make recommendations for beginners.  That would be cool, right?  Or, maybe it's already somewhere...anyone know? [/quote] Ok, well I'll try to give some insight on what I know about them and any recommendations I may have. Czechoslovakian New Wave may be one of the lesser movements listed here.  It kind of started in the 60s. A discription from wikipedia says "Trademarks of the movement contain long unscripted dialogues, dark and absurd humour, and the casting of nonactors."  I don't know if I've actually seen any, but some of the more popular ones are available from the Criterion Collection like The Shop on Main Street (which people have mentioned on Spout before), Closely Watched Trains, and lots of Milos Forman's (One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, The Man on the Moon, Amadeus) early work like Loves of a Blonde and The Fireman's Ball. Dogme 95 was an official movement started by Lars Von Trier and a few other Danish filmmakers that had specific rules about it.  You could actually submit your film to them to be labeled as an official Dogma 95 film.  You can probably find the rules online somewhere, but it involved using only digital film and found locations, props, and costumes.  You aren't supposed to add any special effects.  The full rules are of course available at good old wikipedia.  The most famous of the films would probably The Celebration, The Idiots, and my favorite, Julien Donkey-Boy. The French New Wave is a pretty broad movement usually referring to the iconoclastic filmmakers from France.  I think the tail end of the 50s is really when this started to get into full swing.  Like Tennenbaums mentioned earlier, Jean Luc-Godard and Fran&ccedil;ois Truffaut are often the most identifiable filmmakers with the movement, although there are probably dozens if not more who have been lumped into this movement.  SkyPilot mentioned Jean-Pierre Melville's Bob le Flambeur.  I have seen that one and was disappointed.  I've also seen Godard's Breathless and Truffaut's Jules and Jim both of which I did not enjoy.  Truffaut's The 400 Blows I appreciated a bit more, but still not a favorite.  Some people throw &Eacute;ric Rohmer into this category as well, although some argue his style is considerably different and stems from somewhere other than many other of the French New Wave filmmakers.  I have enjoyed what little I've seen of his work. Expressionism was a movement in Europe in the early 20th century.  It stressed intense emotion conveyed through exaggerated and distorted style and forms.  The Germans took this movement and put it in film.  I'm sure you recognize famous directors like F. W. Murnau and Fritz Lang.  Some of these films had extremely expressionistic and highly unrealistic visuals like The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.  Some like The Last Laugh were just more more distorted versions of reality.  With all the Dracula talk that has happend on Spout at times I'm guessing you've also heard of Nosferatu.  Some of Lang's works that came a bit later that are well known might also count like M and Metropolis. When I looked into it, I can't really define Iranian New Wave any better than just saying it's basically films that were made in Iran.  I guess the most popular filmmaker is Abbas Kiarostami.  Look him up and you may recognize a lot of his films.  Maybe not.  I have seen two films from Majid Majidi and would recommend The Color of Paradise. It's kind of recent though so I don't really know if it's a good representation of the first wave of the Iranian New Wave. Italian neorealism is what it probably sounds like.  Italian films that stressed trying to give a realistic depiction of every day working class people.  They did this by shootings things on location and often with non-actors.  And a lot of the the "boring" action of normal life that might not find it's way into other films is here.  Although I sure don't find it boring.  The time frame we are looking at is the later forties.  The most famous example is Vittorio De Sica's The Bicycle Thief which I would highly recommend, although De Sica's Shoeshine and Umberto D are also amazing.  Other big name directors are Luchino Visconti and Roberto Rossellini. The Japanese New Wave like the French New Wave were a bunch of iconoclastic filmmakers that started with works being released around the end of the 50s through the 70s.  You could put Seijun Suzuki in this category who is one of my favorite directors.  Tokyo Drifter, Fighting Elegy, Branded to Kill, and Youth of the Beast are all fims of his that I love and are available on the Criterion Collection.  Hiroshi Teshigahara also has some of his movies released through Criterion, one of which, Woman in the Dunes, I just saw recently and is amazing.  Shohei Imamura also has some of his movies available through Criterion (this is basically just a big Criterion ad).  Nagisa Oshima is probably the biggest name from this moment in my mind and I'm rather embarassed to say I still haven't seen any of his films. Mumblecore core is the newest term on this list and has gotten a lot of press on Spout, so maybe you've heard of it.  I don't know if I've really seen any movies that would fit this category hardcore, but you probably recognize the trend in independent cinema.  I think it has a lot to do with young adults living in big cities.  Very low budget.  Lots of slang and hip music and culture references with a realistic style.  Correct me if I'm wrong on this.  Joe Swanberg had a short film series on Spout for a while I think. New French Extremity is the other really new term here.  I just came across the name recently to refer to a recent wave of confrontational French films ove the past decade or so.  You know how we had a group here on spout called "extreme films"?  Well a lot of these would probably fit in nice there.  They show you the extreme fifth, cruelty, and violence of humanity often in graphic detail.  You may recognize a lot of these names.  Gaspar No&eacute;'s Irreversible is one of the most well known state side I think.  It's the one that runs backwards.  I've seen his I Stand Alone and let me say it's pretty striking and depression, very confrontational to the dark and depressing side of the human condition.  Other examples are some of Claire Denis' and Leos Carax's recent work, Bruno Dumont (The Life of Jesus, Humanit&eacute;), Catherine Breillat (Fat Girl).  Maybe you have also heard of the infamous Baise-moi (Fuck Me).  If you listen to a lot of the horror fans we have on the site too you may hear them rave about many of the violent horror films comming out of France recently.  These could probably fit in well too.  The most well known now being High Tension. As for New German Cinema, you've heard of Werner Herzog right??  He's one of my favorites (check out The Mystery of Kaspar Hauser, Aguirre: The Wrath of God, Stroszek, Fitzcarraldo).    Well he and some other German folks such as R. W. Fassbinder (Ali: Fear Eats the Soul, The Marriage of Maria Braun, The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant (the guy made well over fourty films in a span of sixteen years including the fifteen hour long Berlin Alexanderplatz)), Wim Wenders (Wings of Desire, Paris, Texas), Volker Schl&ouml;ndorff (The Tin Drum) and several others started making the first original movies starting in the late 60s since before the rise of the Nazis (Werner Herzog even made a remake of the classic German film Nosferatu).  Finally Germany was a force in the world of Cinema making original and revolutionary films again. Anyone have anything to add?<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:15:26 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>Risselada</spout:postby><spout:postto>Movie Polls</spout:postto><spout:postdate>2/19/2009 3:15:26 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>[quote user="pippin06"] This is out of my league too.  I consider myself an average to above average filmgoer/viewer but am not sure if I've seen anything in any category (maybe I have and I didn't know it...but maybe not).  Like I said, I saw a lot of French films in college, but who knows if they fall under New Wave or something like that... ...but maybe we could somehow start a discussion somewhere where people schooled in these film schools could make recommendations for beginners.  That would be cool, right?  Or, maybe it's already somewhere...anyone know? [/quote] Ok, well I'll try to give some insight on what I know about them and any recommendations I may have. Czechoslovakian New Wave may be one of the lesser movements listed here.  It kind of started in the 60s. A discription from wikipedia says "Trademarks of the movement contain long unscripted dialogues, dark and absurd humour, and the casting of nonactors."  I don't know if I've actually seen any, but some of the more popular ones are available from the Criterion Collection like The Shop on Main Street (which people have mentioned on Spout before), Closely Watched Trains, and lots of Milos Forman's (One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, The Man on the Moon, Amadeus) early work like Loves of a Blonde and The Fireman's Ball. Dogme 95 was an official movement started by Lars Von Trier and a few other Danish filmmakers that had specific rules about it.  You could actually submit your film to them to be labeled as an official Dogma 95 film.  You can probably find the rules online somewhere, but it involved using only digital film and found locations, props, and costumes.  You aren't supposed to add any special effects.  The full rules are of course available at good old wikipedia.  The most famous of the films would probably The Celebration, The Idiots, and my favorite, Julien Donkey-Boy. The French New Wave is a pretty broad movement usually referring to the iconoclastic filmmakers from France.  I think the tail end of the 50s is really when this started to get into full swing.  Like Tennenbaums mentioned earlier, Jean Luc-Godard and Fran&amp;ccedil;ois Truffaut are often the most identifiable filmmakers with the movement, although there are probably dozens if not more who have been lumped into this movement.  SkyPilot mentioned Jean-Pierre Melville's Bob le Flambeur.  I have seen that one and was disappointed.  I've also seen Godard's Breathless and Truffaut's Jules and Jim both of which I did not enjoy.  Truffaut's The 400 Blows I appreciated a bit more, but still not a favorite.  Some people throw &amp;Eacute;ric Rohmer into this category as well, although some argue his style is considerably different and stems from somewhere other than many other of the French New Wave filmmakers.  I have enjoyed what little I've seen of his work. Expressionism was a movement in Europe in the early 20th century.  It stressed intense emotion conveyed through exaggerated and distorted style and forms.  The Germans took this movement and put it in film.  I'm sure you recognize famous directors like F. W. Murnau and Fritz Lang.  Some of these films had extremely expressionistic and highly unrealistic visuals like The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari.  Some like The Last Laugh were just more more distorted versions of reality.  With all the Dracula talk that has happend on Spout at times I'm guessing you've also heard of Nosferatu.  Some of Lang's works that came a bit later that are well known might also count like M and Metropolis. When I looked into it, I can't really define Iranian New Wave any better than just saying it's basically films that were made in Iran.  I guess the most popular filmmaker is Abbas Kiarostami.  Look him up and you may recognize a lot of his films.  Maybe not.  I have seen two films from Majid Majidi and would recommend The Color of Paradise. It's kind of recent though so I don't really know if it's a good representation of the first wave of the Iranian New Wave. Italian neorealism is what it probably sounds like.  Italian films that stressed trying to give a realistic depiction of every day working class people.  They did this by shootings things on location and often with non-actors.  And a lot of the the "boring" action of normal life that might not find it's way into other films is here.  Although I sure don't find it boring.  The time frame we are looking at is the later forties.  The most famous example is Vittorio De Sica's The Bicycle Thief which I would highly recommend, although De Sica's Shoeshine and Umberto D are also amazing.  Other big name directors are Luchino Visconti and Roberto Rossellini. The Japanese New Wave like the French New Wave were a bunch of iconoclastic filmmakers that started with works being released around the end of the 50s through the 70s.  You could put Seijun Suzuki in this category who is one of my favorite directors.  Tokyo Drifter, Fighting Elegy, Branded to Kill, and Youth of the Beast are all fims of his that I love and are available on the Criterion Collection.  Hiroshi Teshigahara also has some of his movies released through Criterion, one of which, Woman in the Dunes, I just saw recently and is amazing.  Shohei Imamura also has some of his movies available through Criterion (this is basically just a big Criterion ad).  Nagisa Oshima is probably the biggest name from this moment in my mind and I'm rather embarassed to say I still haven't seen any of his films. Mumblecore core is the newest term on this list and has gotten a lot of press on Spout, so maybe you've heard of it.  I don't know if I've really seen any movies that would fit this category hardcore, but you probably recognize the trend in independent cinema.  I think it has a lot to do with young adults living in big cities.  Very low budget.  Lots of slang and hip music and culture references with a realistic style.  Correct me if I'm wrong on this.  Joe Swanberg had a short film series on Spout for a while I think. New French Extremity is the other really new term here.  I just came across the name recently to refer to a recent wave of confrontational French films ove the past decade or so.  You know how we had a group here on spout called "extreme films"?  Well a lot of these would probably fit in nice there.  They show you the extreme fifth, cruelty, and violence of humanity often in graphic detail.  You may recognize a lot of these names.  Gaspar No&amp;eacute;'s Irreversible is one of the most well known state side I think.  It's the one that runs backwards.  I've seen his I Stand Alone and let me say it's pretty striking and depression, very confrontational to the dark and depressing side of the human condition.  Other examples are some of Claire Denis' and Leos Carax's recent work, Bruno Dumont (The Life of Jesus, Humanit&amp;eacute;), Catherine Breillat (Fat Girl).  Maybe you have also heard of the infamous Baise-moi (Fuck Me).  If you listen to a lot of the horror fans we have on the site too you may hear them rave about many of the violent horror films comming out of France recently.  These could probably fit in well too.  The most well known now being High Tension. As for New German Cinema, you've heard of Werner Herzog right??  He's one of my favorites (check out The Mystery of Kaspar Hauser, Aguirre: The Wrath of God, Stroszek, Fitzcarraldo).    Well he and some other German folks such as R. W. Fassbinder (Ali: Fear Eats the Soul, The Marriage of Maria Braun, The Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant (the guy made well over fourty films in a span of sixteen years including the fifteen hour long Berlin Alexanderplatz)), Wim Wenders (Wings of Desire, Paris, Texas), Volker Schl&amp;ouml;ndorff (The Tin Drum) and several others started making the first original movies starting in the late 60s since before the rise of the Nazis (Werner Herzog even made a remake of the classic German film Nosferatu).  Finally Germany was a force in the world of Cinema making original and revolutionary films again. Anyone have anything to add?</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: 10 Posthumous Oscar Nominations That Should Have Been</title>
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<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/9325/default.aspx'>SpoutBlog</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 7/16/2008 3:00:59 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> 
Though I first buzzed about an Academy Award nomination for Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight more than a month before his death, I now want to take it all back. I feel all the talk of Ledger’s posthumous Oscar chances will cloud my mind when I finally do see it, and it will probably also cloud the Academy’s judgment, too. Six months from now, when the nominations are announced on January 22 (coincidentally the one-year anniversary of Ledger’s death), if Ledger is not recognized for his role as The Joker, there will surely be an uproar — actually, Hollywood might just up and self-implode.
I’m not the only one annoyed by all the Oscar buzz. Terry Gilliam, who directed Ledger in The Brothers Grimm and the upcoming The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, is calling “bullshit” on the whole thing, particularly against Warner Bros., which Gilliam accuses of exploiting Ledger’s death and chance of a posthumous Oscar for publicity purposes. Considering most Oscar campaigns for live actors are really just part of movie marketing, he has a good point.

Sure, I would love to see Ledger honored. I’ve believed in his Oscar worth since 10 Things I Hate About You . But in February, if he receives a posthumous award, it will surely feel, at least in good percentage, that it’s because he died young. In that case, why not also give supporting noms sight unseen to Rob Knox for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and Brad Renfro for The Informers? Despite the more than 10 posthumous nominations in Oscar history, however, it’s not obligatory for the Academy to hand out such accolades every time someone dies before his final movie is released. Just check out the following list of talent who probably deserved posthumous Oscar recognition as much as Ledger does:

Jean Vigo for L’Atalante - One of the greatest, most influential films of all time, L’Atalante premiered in France in 1934, a few months before Vigo died of tuberculosis at the age of 29. It eventually made its way to the U.S. 14 years later, just in time for the debut of the Oscar for Best Foreign Language Film. And considering the first recipient, Vittorio De Sica (for Shoeshine), would win again two years later (for Bicycle Thieves), the Academy should have recognized Vigo’s film, even if it was more than a decade old. Unfortunately, it would be many decades before L’Atalante received the kind of esteem it deserves.
James Dean for Rebel Without a Cause - Dean starred in only three feature films, one of which, East of Eden, was released prior to his death. He received posthumous Oscar nominations for that film and his final appearance in Giant, which came out a year later. But wouldn’t it have been wonderful if he’d also been nominated for his most iconic role in Rebel Without a Cause? Sure, he’d have posthumously gone up against himself in 1956, but that’s what movie gods like him were made to do.
Richard Harris for Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - Not only should Harris have received a nomination, he should have won, too. It doesn’t matter that it wasn’t the greatest performance by the actor, who’d previously been nominated for 1963’s This Sporting Life and 1990’s The Field. It’s that Harry Potter fans would have tuned in and saved that year’s telecast from being the least-watched in years. Just imagine how many people will be tuning in to next year’s show just because of the (inevitable) Ledger nom.
Heather O’Rourke for Poltergeist III - I know that I’m only one of maybe three people who like the third Poltergeist movie, but even if you think the movie itself is bad, you have to give little Heather O’Rourke credit for being giving creepily terrific performances throughout the series. Compare her talent to some other young actresses who’ve been nominated. Especially Abigail Breslin of Little Miss Sunshine. And had she lived, she’d probably be a better actress today than Oscar-winner Anna Paquin.
F.W. Murnau for Tabu - His Sunrise was pretty successful a few year earlier, at the 1st Academy Awards, but he wasn’t even nominated. In fact, the man who also gave us Nosferatu, Faust and The Last Laugh was never nominated for an Oscar, a fact that might have been different had the Oscars been founded a decade earlier or had he not died tragically in a car accident at age 43. I’m sure, at least, that Floyd Crosby, when winning for his cinematography work on Tabu, raised the statue to the sky and said, “this is for Murnau.”
Peter Sellers for The Fiendish Plot of Dr. Fu Manchu - Whether or not you believe the Academy hates on comedic actors, you should agree that Sellers should have won an Oscar before he died. Or after he died. If he’d been nominated for this critical and commercial failure, though, it would of course have been one of those “he deserved it for ______, but this will do” kind of situtations.
Stanley Kubrick for Eyes Wide Shut - If Scorsese can finally win with The Departed, Kubrick should have finally won posthumously with what is often thought of as his worst film. If anything, he at least deserved to be nominated instead of M. Night Shyamalan.
Adrienne Shelly for Waitress - Didn’t it seem like a sure thing the writer-director-actress, Shelley, would get the nomination this year? Considering Diablo Cody had already (unofficially) won the actual Oscar before the nominations were even announced, could it have hurt to include the tragically murdered screenwriter? Or were there already too many ladies on the screenwriting ballot this year?
Thelma Ritter for What’s So Bad About Feeling Good? - If ever there was a supporting actress who should have won an Oscar, Ritter was she. After six nominations (four of them consecutive), a posthumous seventh should have come with this movie (even if I’ve never personally seen it, I bet she’s great as usual). Unfortunately, the ballots were likely already in when she had her heart attack in February 1969. Also, she probably would have lost to Ruth Gordon anyway.
Brandon Lee for The Crow - Laugh all you want, but in a crazy year that saw John Travolta recognized with a nomination and Tom Hanks recognized with a win for one of his silliest performances ever, would it have been so strange if the Academy had given Lee the slot filled by Morgan Freeman (obviously Oscar had little love for The Shawshank Redemption as it was)?
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Though I first buzzed about an Academy Award nomination for Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight more than a month before his death, I now want to take it all back. I feel all the talk of Ledger’s posthumous Oscar chances will cloud my mind when I finally do see it, and it will probably also cloud the Academy’s judgment, too. Six months from now, when the nominations are announced on January 22 (coincidentally the one-year anniversary of Ledger’s death), if Ledger is not recognized for his role as The Joker, there will surely be an uproar — actually, Hollywood might just up and self-implode.
I’m not the only one annoyed by all the Oscar buzz. Terry Gilliam, who directed Ledger in The Brothers Grimm and the upcoming The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus, is calling “bullshit” on the whole thing, particularly against Warner Bros., which Gilliam accuses of exploiting Ledger’s death and chance of a posthumous Oscar for publicity purposes. Considering most Oscar campaigns for live actors are really just part of movie marketing, he has a good point.

Sure, I would love to see Ledger honored. I’ve believed in his Oscar worth since 10 Things I Hate About You . But in February, if he receives a posthumous award, it will surely feel, at least in good percentage, that it’s because he died young. In that case, why not also give supporting noms sight unseen to Rob Knox for Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and Brad Renfro for The Informers? Despite the more than 10 posthumous nominations in Oscar history, however, it’s not obligatory for the Academy to hand out such accolades every time someone dies before his final movie is released. Just check out the following list of talent who probably deserved posthumous Oscar recognition as much as Ledger does:

Jean Vigo for L’Atalante - One of the greatest, most influential films of all time, L’Atalante premiered in France in 1934, a few months before Vigo died of tuberculosis at the age of 29. It eventually made its way to the U.S. 14 years later, just in time for the debut of the Oscar for Best Foreign Language Film. And considering the first recipient, Vittorio De Sica (for Shoeshine), would win again two years later (for Bicycle Thieves), the Academy should have recognized Vigo’s film, even if it was more than a decade old. Unfortunately, it would be many decades before L’Atalante received the kind of esteem it deserves.
James Dean for Rebel Without a Cause - Dean starred in only three feature films, one of which, East of Eden, was released prior to his death. He received posthumous Oscar nominations for that film and his final appearance in Giant, which came out a year later. But wouldn’t it have been wonderful if he’d also been nominated for his most iconic role in Rebel Without a Cause? Sure, he’d have posthumously gone up against himself in 1956, but that’s what movie gods like him were made to do.
Richard Harris for Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets - Not only should Harris have received a nomination, he should have won, too. It doesn’t matter that it wasn’t the greatest performance by the actor, who’d previously been nominated for 1963’s This Sporting Life and 1990’s The Field. It’s that Harry Potter fans would have tuned in and saved that year’s telecast from being the least-watched in years. Just imagine how many people will be tuning in to next year’s show just because of the (inevitable) Ledger nom.
Heather O’Rourke for Poltergeist III - I know that I’m only one of maybe three people who like the third Poltergeist movie, but even if you think the movie itself is bad, you have to give little Heather O’Rourke credit for being giving creepily terrific performances throughout the series. Compare her talent to some other young actresses who’ve been nominated. Especially Abigail Breslin of Little Miss Sunshine. And had she lived, she’d probably be a better actress today than Oscar-winner Anna Paquin.
F.W. Murnau for Tabu - His Sunrise was pretty successful a few year earlier, at the 1st Academy Awards, but he wasn’t even nominated. In fact, the man who also gave us Nosferatu, Faust and The Last Laugh was never nominated for an Oscar, a fact that might have been different had the Oscars been founded a decade earlier or had he not died tragically in a car accident at age 43. I’m sure, at least, that Floyd Crosby, when winning for his cinematography work on Tabu, raised the statue to the sky and said, “this is for Murnau.”
Peter Sellers for The Fiendish Plot of Dr. Fu Manchu - Whether or not you believe the Academy hates on comedic actors, you should agree that Sellers should have won an Oscar before he died. Or after he died. If he’d been nominated for this critical and commercial failure, though, it would of course have been one of those “he deserved it for ______, but this will do” kind of situtations.
Stanley Kubrick for Eyes Wide Shut - If Scorsese can finally win with The Departed, Kubrick should have finally won posthumously with what is often thought of as his worst film. If anything, he at least deserved to be nominated instead of M. Night Shyamalan.
Adrienne Shelly for Waitress - Didn’t it seem like a sure thing the writer-director-actress, Shelley, would get the nomination this year? Considering Diablo Cody had already (unofficially) won the actual Oscar before the nominations were even announced, could it have hurt to include the tragically murdered screenwriter? Or were there already too many ladies on the screenwriting ballot this year?
Thelma Ritter for What’s So Bad About Feeling Good? - If ever there was a supporting actress who should have won an Oscar, Ritter was she. After six nominations (four of them consecutive), a posthumous seventh should have come with this movie (even if I’ve never personally seen it, I bet she’s great as usual). Unfortunately, the ballots were likely already in when she had her heart attack in February 1969. Also, she probably would have lost to Ruth Gordon anyway.
Brandon Lee for The Crow - Laugh all you want, but in a crazy year that saw John Travolta recognized with a nomination and Tom Hanks recognized with a win for one of his silliest performances ever, would it have been so strange if the Academy had given Lee the slot filled by Morgan Freeman (obviously Oscar had little love for The Shawshank Redemption as it was)?
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