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Year: 1989
Director: Cameron Crowe
Plot: Ione Skye plays Diane Court, high-school valedictorian on the verge of heading to England on a prestigious scholarship. This is especially thrilling to Diane's divorced father, James (John Mahoney), who has always shared a special relationship with the girl, less father/daughter than friend/friend. When Diane begins dating irresponsible army brat Lloyd Dobler (John Cusack), her father despairs at her choice of an "underachiever." Pressured by her dad to break off the relationship, Diane spends the rest of the summer being pursued by the lovestruck Lloyd, who does everything he can to win her back. Diane finally realizes there's more to life than perfection when her sainted father comes under the scrutiny of the IRS. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide
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]]>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:36:43 GMTSay Anything...1989Cameron Crowe<a href="/players/P____66160/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ione Skye</a> plays Diane Court, high-school valedictorian on the verge of heading to England on a prestigious scholarship. This is especially thrilling to Diane's divorced father, James (<a href="/players/P____44655/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Mahoney</a>), who has always shared a special relationship with the girl, less father/daughter than friend/friend. When Diane begins dating irresponsible army brat Lloyd Dobler (<a href="/players/P____16329/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Cusack</a>), her father despairs at her choice of an "underachiever." Pressured by her dad to break off the relationship, Diane spends the rest of the summer being pursued by the lovestruck Lloyd, who does everything he can to win her back. Diane finally realizes there's more to life than perfection when her sainted father comes under the scrutiny of the IRS. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide58Tag Target (>10)74863http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u42291b76tz.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Say_Anything/30147/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Forever_Young/Re_80s_teen_flick_that_described_romantic_relation/85/36439/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: seely
Post To: Forever Young
Post Date: 10/17/2008 10:49:22 AM
Body: Oh this is a good one! I'm definately a hopeless romantic underdog at heart, and *loved* the way 80's films portrayed highschool relationships, with their clearly defined archetypical characters and somewhat formulaic endings. For me, I think I was most shaped by: The Breakfast Club Valley Girl Say Anything Sixteen Candles (1984) They all had similar themes, of people winding up with someone that they typically shouldn't be interested in... this gave me a lot of hope as an awkward pubescent teenager. [quote user="filmgal81"] As a kid, what 80s teen movie did you think high school romantic relationships would be most like? For me, it is a toss up between three movies: For Keeps ( happy endings), Dirty Dancing ( fleeting love), and The Breakfast Club ( flirtations) [/quote]
]]>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:49:22 GMTseelyForever Young10/17/2008 10:49:22 AMOh this is a good one! I'm definately a hopeless romantic underdog at heart, and *loved* the way 80's films portrayed highschool relationships, with their clearly defined archetypical characters and somewhat formulaic endings. For me, I think I was most shaped by: The Breakfast Club Valley Girl Say Anything Sixteen Candles (1984) They all had similar themes, of people winding up with someone that they typically shouldn't be interested in... this gave me a lot of hope as an awkward pubescent teenager. [quote user="filmgal81"] As a kid, what 80s teen movie did you think high school romantic relationships would be most like? For me, it is a toss up between three movies: For Keeps ( happy endings), Dirty Dancing ( fleeting love), and The Breakfast Club ( flirtations) [/quote] http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Top_5_Romantic_Films/190/35938/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: seely
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Post Date: 10/6/2008 1:28:13 PM
Body: This is a tough one...I can't think of a lot of romantic films I've seen, but I'll give it a shot. Across the Universe - I love the Beatles, I love sporadic singing, I love the 60's and I love Love. It seemed a little "Higschool Musical Does the Sixties" at times, but I loved some of the cameos and cultural references of the era (despite not particularly liking Bono, I thought he did a fantastic job), and albeit sappy love story. Princess Bride - A classic. I'm a closet fairy tale fan, and this is one of the best. It turns the genre on its head a little, adds a lot of comedy and relies on some less-than-perfect characters with some glaring flaws to create a story that somehow still remains romantic. Say Anything - I'm always a fan of the daughter/son-likes-the-girl/guy-dad/mom-does-not films. These seemed especially prevalent in the 80's, and I think SA is the shining example. SA edged out Valley Girl by a hair in this category for me, mostly because Nicolas Cage suffered a devastating setback in my mind after remaking Bangkok Dangerous (and it wasn't because the first was any good). Big Fish - I know its fictional, but its a powerful love story none-the-less. You get to see the couple through their entire lives together, beginning to end, and how committed and how much they loved each other to the end. Its ridiculously beautiful. I can barely handle the end of the movie. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Maybe a bit out of place in this categorie, but I think it deserves a mention. I think it highlights the idea that love wouldn't exist without pain, and gives us an appreciation of memories and past relationships. Its better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all. Bah, one short. Wait! Once - Probably my favorite, because of a) the music, and b) the fact it does not end like most romances. It is a beautiful and very innocent story, of a complicated friendship/romance. Don't want to give too much away for those who haven't seen it, but it truly is a beautiful story of two people meeting exactly when they needed to.
]]>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:28:13 GMTseelyTop 510/6/2008 1:28:13 PMThis is a tough one...I can't think of a lot of romantic films I've seen, but I'll give it a shot. Across the Universe - I love the Beatles, I love sporadic singing, I love the 60's and I love Love. It seemed a little "Higschool Musical Does the Sixties" at times, but I loved some of the cameos and cultural references of the era (despite not particularly liking Bono, I thought he did a fantastic job), and albeit sappy love story. Princess Bride - A classic. I'm a closet fairy tale fan, and this is one of the best. It turns the genre on its head a little, adds a lot of comedy and relies on some less-than-perfect characters with some glaring flaws to create a story that somehow still remains romantic. Say Anything - I'm always a fan of the daughter/son-likes-the-girl/guy-dad/mom-does-not films. These seemed especially prevalent in the 80's, and I think SA is the shining example. SA edged out Valley Girl by a hair in this category for me, mostly because Nicolas Cage suffered a devastating setback in my mind after remaking Bangkok Dangerous (and it wasn't because the first was any good). Big Fish - I know its fictional, but its a powerful love story none-the-less. You get to see the couple through their entire lives together, beginning to end, and how committed and how much they loved each other to the end. Its ridiculously beautiful. I can barely handle the end of the movie. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Maybe a bit out of place in this categorie, but I think it deserves a mention. I think it highlights the idea that love wouldn't exist without pain, and gives us an appreciation of memories and past relationships. Its better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all. Bah, one short. Wait! Once - Probably my favorite, because of a) the music, and b) the fact it does not end like most romances. It is a beautiful and very innocent story, of a complicated friendship/romance. Don't want to give too much away for those who haven't seen it, but it truly is a beautiful story of two people meeting exactly when they needed to. http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Games/Re_Pick_a_Pair/598/32022/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: unclefestering
Post To: Movie Games
Post Date: 7/2/2008 11:52:50 AM
Body: [quote user="SkyPilot"] [quote user="nickbianco13"] Say Anything... (1989) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) My girlfriend wrote a paper on GPB being the the future Loyd Dobbler who later became a hitman it should have been a sequel and they should be seen together. In my opinion. [/quote] Wow, that's really funny and interesting! This would be an interesting game. Black Snake Moan might be Jules from Pulp Fiction fifteen years later. [/quote] I once tried to trace history of Kurt Russell through his movie characters. I was trying to figure out what turned The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes into Snake Plissken. Maybe it was selling Used Cars?
]]>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:52:50 GMTunclefesteringMovie Games7/2/2008 11:52:50 AM[quote user="SkyPilot"] [quote user="nickbianco13"] Say Anything... (1989) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) My girlfriend wrote a paper on GPB being the the future Loyd Dobbler who later became a hitman it should have been a sequel and they should be seen together. In my opinion. [/quote] Wow, that's really funny and interesting! This would be an interesting game. Black Snake Moan might be Jules from Pulp Fiction fifteen years later. [/quote] I once tried to trace history of Kurt Russell through his movie characters. I was trying to figure out what turned The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes into Snake Plissken. Maybe it was selling Used Cars? http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Games/Re_Pick_a_Pair/598/32009/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: SkyPilot
Post To: Movie Games
Post Date: 7/2/2008 9:20:44 AM
Body: [quote user="nickbianco13"] Say Anything... (1989) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) My girlfriend wrote a paper on GPB being the the future Loyd Dobbler who later became a hitman it should have been a sequel and they should be seen together. In my opinion. [/quote] Wow, that's really funny and interesting! This would be an interesting game. Black Snake Moan might be Jules from Pulp Fiction fifteen years later.
]]>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:20:44 GMTSkyPilotMovie Games7/2/2008 9:20:44 AM[quote user="nickbianco13"] Say Anything... (1989) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) My girlfriend wrote a paper on GPB being the the future Loyd Dobbler who later became a hitman it should have been a sequel and they should be seen together. In my opinion. [/quote] Wow, that's really funny and interesting! This would be an interesting game. Black Snake Moan might be Jules from Pulp Fiction fifteen years later. http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Games/Re_Pick_a_Pair/598/31992/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: nickbianco13
Post To: Movie Games
Post Date: 7/1/2008 9:43:56 PM
Body: Say Anything... (1989) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) My girlfriend wrote a paper on GPB being the the future Loyd Dobbler who later became a hitman it should have been a sequel and they should be seen together. In my opinion.
]]>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:43:56 GMTnickbianco13Movie Games7/1/2008 9:43:56 PMSay Anything... (1989) Grosse Pointe Blank (1997) My girlfriend wrote a paper on GPB being the the future Loyd Dobbler who later became a hitman it should have been a sequel and they should be seen together. In my opinion. http://www.spout.com/blogs/sarcastig/archive/2007/8/7/17506.aspx Post By: sarcastig
Post To: As cool as a Fruitstand
Post Date: 8/7/2007 10:00:36 AM
Body: I've always been on the fence when it comes to Cameron Crowe. He has a true talent for writing believable characters and great dialogue, and a fantastic ear for music, but many of his films fail to convince me in the end. I think it's his inherent sentimentality that does him in, but this seems a strange accusation for a man who tries so hard to avoid typical Hollywood sentiment.He creates indelible scenes: Jerry Maguire yelling "Show me the money!", Billy Crudup standing on the roof yelling "I am a Golden God", John Cusack holding his boombox playing "in your eyes" over his head... Even the exercise-machine suicide and the road trip in Elizabethtown are scenes that are memorable even if the film is now. But ultimately, to me, his films are often more a collection of nice moments than a good, coherent, film. I like his films, but I don't love themSay Anything was the first exception to that rule. This movie is also not coherent, it kind of meanders, but for the first time it didn't bother me. I identified with these characters and their aimlessness. Lloyd's indecision about his future was painfully familiar, his reluctance to "sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career", and more than that, the resolution of his dilemma feels right: he decides that what he want to be is be with Diane. Because he's good at it. As for Diane, she truly is the center of this film. One of the things I really liked here is that her relationship with her father is just as fleshed out and important as the one with Lloyd, and I recognized much of my relationship with my father in it (though luckily, he's not under investigation by the IRS).Most high school movies date fairly easily, but this one has not lost any relevance in the 18 years since its release, because it doesn't so much focus on what's "hip" at the time (clothing, language, even music) but on something more essential: where do we go from here? Fashions and lingo change, but that question still faces every graduating senior.Of course, John Cusack's performance is crucial here. He is Lloyd Dobler: a thoroughly decent and even gallant but also fundamentally aimless guy. He's not perfect. But you can imagine just anyone falling for him: his nervous talking, his ridiculous trench coat, and of course his grand romantic gesture.But what really makes this film better, in my opinion,, is the ambivalence of the ending. You want these two characters to make it together, but at the same time you doubt they will. The film doesn't end in a kiss or a laugh, but in tense expectation, with a plane taking off. the dialogue says it all:DIANE: Nobody thought we'd do this. Nobody really thinks it's going to work, do they?LLOYD: No. You just described every great success story. Originally posted on:As cool as a Fruitstand
]]>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:00:36 GMTsarcastigAs cool as a Fruitstand8/7/2007 10:00:36 AMI've always been on the fence when it comes to Cameron Crowe. He has a true talent for writing believable characters and great dialogue, and a fantastic ear for music, but many of his films fail to convince me in the end. I think it's his inherent sentimentality that does him in, but this seems a strange accusation for a man who tries so hard to avoid typical Hollywood sentiment.He creates indelible scenes: Jerry Maguire yelling "Show me the money!", Billy Crudup standing on the roof yelling "I am a Golden God", John Cusack holding his boombox playing "in your eyes" over his head... Even the exercise-machine suicide and the road trip in Elizabethtown are scenes that are memorable even if the film is now. But ultimately, to me, his films are often more a collection of nice moments than a good, coherent, film. I like his films, but I don't love themSay Anything was the first exception to that rule. This movie is also not coherent, it kind of meanders, but for the first time it didn't bother me. I identified with these characters and their aimlessness. Lloyd's indecision about his future was painfully familiar, his reluctance to "sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career", and more than that, the resolution of his dilemma feels right: he decides that what he want to be is be with Diane. Because he's good at it. As for Diane, she truly is the center of this film. One of the things I really liked here is that her relationship with her father is just as fleshed out and important as the one with Lloyd, and I recognized much of my relationship with my father in it (though luckily, he's not under investigation by the IRS).Most high school movies date fairly easily, but this one has not lost any relevance in the 18 years since its release, because it doesn't so much focus on what's "hip" at the time (clothing, language, even music) but on something more essential: where do we go from here? Fashions and lingo change, but that question still faces every graduating senior.Of course, John Cusack's performance is crucial here. He is Lloyd Dobler: a thoroughly decent and even gallant but also fundamentally aimless guy. He's not perfect. But you can imagine just anyone falling for him: his nervous talking, his ridiculous trench coat, and of course his grand romantic gesture.But what really makes this film better, in my opinion,, is the ambivalence of the ending. You want these two characters to make it together, but at the same time you doubt they will. The film doesn't end in a kiss or a laugh, but in tense expectation, with a plane taking off. the dialogue says it all:DIANE: Nobody thought we'd do this. Nobody really thinks it's going to work, do they?LLOYD: No. You just described every great success story. Originally posted on:As cool as a Fruitstand http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2007/7/16/15094.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
Post To: SpoutBlog on spout.com
Post Date: 7/16/2007 5:36:44 PM
Body: Burning Man, the infamous annual week-long neo-hippie desert sojourn, is partnering with a number of corporations in the name of getting green. Predictably, this has ruffled a few feathers, as it seems to fly in the face of at least one or two of Burning Man's core principles. Brian Doherty, who literally wrote the (or, at least, a) book on Burning Man, says the problem lies in the fact that some members of the Burner community have watched a certain Cameron Crowe movie a few too many times. To quote liberally from an article published today at Reason Online, titled "Generation Dobler": Emotionally, I don't understand why so many people get so upset at being marketed to, or at gleefully acknowledging the good that comes from crafting a social world that is dominated by people willingly exchanging skills, services, and goods. These types could be called Generation Dobler, after the famous quote from the sad sensitive man-child character, Lloyd Dobler, played by John Cusack in the 1989 film Say Anything. Dobler certified his soulfulness by announcing that “I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed.” Which is lovely in its way, I guess, but the reason many people can indeed survive doing none of those things is because of the unprecedented wealth created by those who do. Most moderns, at least when pressed, recognize that commerce makes our lives richer in certain ways. Admittedly, these kinds of libertarian takes on pop culture get me a little too fired up. But still: maybe here's where it's worth noting that Lloyd Dobler as character was, at best, proudly irresponsible, and at worst, totally delusional. He says he's "looking for a dare to be great situation," but seems to define "dare to be great" as "charming a woman of greater intellectual means into letting me follow her halfway across the world." (More simply, and more glaringly, he's a guy in a Clash shirt who tries to win back his lost girlfriend by blasting Peter Gabriel. Cameron Crowe's fans like to wank off to the filmmaker's "talent" for spinning romantic fantasies out of source cues, but has any cinematic moment of ostensible emotional nakedness ever felt less natural for the character at its center?) In other words: for a generation of Lloyd Doblers to survive from one Burning Man to the next, they need a generation of Diane Courts--that is, brains trapped in the bodies of game show hosts--to lovingly foot the bill. [Via BoingBoing] Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:36:44 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com7/16/2007 5:36:44 PM Burning Man, the infamous annual week-long neo-hippie desert sojourn, is partnering with a number of corporations in the name of getting green. Predictably, this has ruffled a few feathers, as it seems to fly in the face of at least one or two of Burning Man's core principles. Brian Doherty, who literally wrote the (or, at least, a) book on Burning Man, says the problem lies in the fact that some members of the Burner community have watched a certain Cameron Crowe movie a few too many times. To quote liberally from an article published today at Reason Online, titled "Generation Dobler": Emotionally, I don't understand why so many people get so upset at being marketed to, or at gleefully acknowledging the good that comes from crafting a social world that is dominated by people willingly exchanging skills, services, and goods. These types could be called Generation Dobler, after the famous quote from the sad sensitive man-child character, Lloyd Dobler, played by John Cusack in the 1989 film Say Anything. Dobler certified his soulfulness by announcing that “I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed.” Which is lovely in its way, I guess, but the reason many people can indeed survive doing none of those things is because of the unprecedented wealth created by those who do. Most moderns, at least when pressed, recognize that commerce makes our lives richer in certain ways. Admittedly, these kinds of libertarian takes on pop culture get me a little too fired up. But still: maybe here's where it's worth noting that Lloyd Dobler as character was, at best, proudly irresponsible, and at worst, totally delusional. He says he's "looking for a dare to be great situation," but seems to define "dare to be great" as "charming a woman of greater intellectual means into letting me follow her halfway across the world." (More simply, and more glaringly, he's a guy in a Clash shirt who tries to win back his lost girlfriend by blasting Peter Gabriel. Cameron Crowe's fans like to wank off to the filmmaker's "talent" for spinning romantic fantasies out of source cues, but has any cinematic moment of ostensible emotional nakedness ever felt less natural for the character at its center?) In other words: for a generation of Lloyd Doblers to survive from one Burning Man to the next, they need a generation of Diane Courts--that is, brains trapped in the bodies of game show hosts--to lovingly foot the bill. [Via BoingBoing] Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/blogs/marymcilwain/archive/2007/7/13/13852.aspx Post By: marymcilwain
Post To: Dollar Video Curator
Post Date: 7/13/2007 4:00:22 PM
Body: Ah romance. Every good video watcher is acutely aware of the down-on-love, romantic teenage flicks that played out with so many star-struck Romeos and Juliets in the idealistic 80’s. We cheered for our plucky, beautiful, yet misunderstood Andie Walshes, Diane Courts, and Wattes in the face of so much love adversity, whether what they lacked was money, an understanding father, or girl’s underwear, and rested easy at the end when they got their men. But should we have? For every one of these “ideal” movie boyfriends, sure signs of loser-dom each display. Here’s just a few reasons why you should’ve run for the hills ladies! Ferris Bueller(Matthew Broderick) –He of the Day OffMajor Flaw: Too eager Yes, he’s charming, cute, fun-loving, inventive and obviously coveted by every other girl in your school, but sheesh. The dude’s talking marriage and he hasn’t even graduated from high school. Sloane, you are way too hot to hitch your star to that wagon. Advice: go to college first and get your M.R.S. from a proper institution.Blane McDonough (Andrew McCarthy) – Pretty In PinkMajor Flaw: Conformist Obviously he cares way too much about status, not too mention what his friends and parents think. He may be willing to make a grand display of devotion at prom, showing his independence when the cameras are rolling, but think about it. If he’s willing to trade-up so easily now when your body’s slammin’ and there is nary a wrinkle or sag, better think to the future. Or marry him fast before he learns the words “Pre-nup.” Keith Nelson (Eric Stoltz) –Some Kind of WonderfulMajor Flaw: SuperficialSecondary Flaw: Clueless You may think his ultra-nemesis Hardy Jenns is more worthy of distinction in this category, but we disagree whole-heartedly. Hardy is what he is. He makes no apology for being a complete dick-face, threatening social stigmata upon every girl who denies his advance, and is not afraid to buy adoration. Keith on the other hand, for all his hatred of Hardy, really is just doing the same thing: buy the prettiest girl in school using his college tuition to purchase a pair of diamond earrings. Not to mention the fact that he’s got a perfectly willing piece right in front of his face and is too stupid to notice. Danny LaRusso (Ralph Macchio) – The Karate KidMajor Flaw: Obsessed with violence Poor little Ali here is just bouncing from one bully to the next up-and-coming. Danny seems like he just may be trying to stick up for himself, but all he really wants is to learn some serious moves that will totally fuck your shit up. This relationship is only going to end in court. And likely the hospital.Terry Griffith (Joyce Hyser) –Just One of the GuysMajor Flaw: Gender confusion Sure everyone doubts their sexuality at one time or another, but Terry takes it to the extreme. Transferring schools to assume new identity as a male, followed by whole lot of wardrobe malfunctions, not to mention falling in love with another boy…well. Girls, you’re signing up for a life time of closet sharing. He may be sympathetic to what women want, but this one is just not worth the trouble. Han Solo (Harrison Ford) –The Empire Strikes BackMajor Flaw: Egotistical, cold and unfeeling Every girl’s greatest fear, finally getting up the nerve to utter that fateful “L” word, only to be answered with “I know.” Then afterwards he’s just so cold, emotionless, and unresponsive. Lloyd Dobler (John Cusack) –Say AnythingMajor Flaw: Too needy, border line stalker The film that single-handedly allowed teenagers everywhere to believe in the old “opposites attract” adage, forever tying one’s high school love affair memories to moody, mixed tapes starring Peter Gabriel songs. A hint ladies: when you break up with a guy to pursue your education and he stalks around your house at all hours of the day blasting music to get your attention, this is NOT a good thing. Anyone who is worthy of such adoration at 18 should note they can likely do better than a kick-boxing instructor. LT Pete "Maverick" Mitchell(Tom Cruise) -Top GunMajor Flaw: Gay Originally posted on:Dollar Video Curator
]]>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:00:22 GMTmarymcilwainDollar Video Curator7/13/2007 4:00:22 PMAh romance. Every good video watcher is acutely aware of the down-on-love, romantic teenage flicks that played out with so many star-struck Romeos and Juliets in the idealistic 80’s. We cheered for our plucky, beautiful, yet misunderstood Andie Walshes, Diane Courts, and Wattes in the face of so much love adversity, whether what they lacked was money, an understanding father, or girl’s underwear, and rested easy at the end when they got their men. But should we have? For every one of these “ideal” movie boyfriends, sure signs of loser-dom each display. Here’s just a few reasons why you should’ve run for the hills ladies! Ferris Bueller(Matthew Broderick) –He of the Day OffMajor Flaw: Too eager Yes, he’s charming, cute, fun-loving, inventive and obviously coveted by every other girl in your school, but sheesh. The dude’s talking marriage and he hasn’t even graduated from high school. Sloane, you are way too hot to hitch your star to that wagon. Advice: go to college first and get your M.R.S. from a proper institution.Blane McDonough (Andrew McCarthy) – Pretty In PinkMajor Flaw: Conformist Obviously he cares way too much about status, not too mention what his friends and parents think. He may be willing to make a grand display of devotion at prom, showing his independence when the cameras are rolling, but think about it. If he’s willing to trade-up so easily now when your body’s slammin’ and there is nary a wrinkle or sag, better think to the future. Or marry him fast before he learns the words “Pre-nup.” Keith Nelson (Eric Stoltz) –Some Kind of WonderfulMajor Flaw: SuperficialSecondary Flaw: Clueless You may think his ultra-nemesis Hardy Jenns is more worthy of distinction in this category, but we disagree whole-heartedly. Hardy is what he is. He makes no apology for being a complete dick-face, threatening social stigmata upon every girl who denies his advance, and is not afraid to buy adoration. Keith on the other hand, for all his hatred of Hardy, really is just doing the same thing: buy the prettiest girl in school using his college tuition to purchase a pair of diamond earrings. Not to mention the fact that he’s got a perfectly willing piece right in front of his face and is too stupid to notice. Danny LaRusso (Ralph Macchio) – The Karate KidMajor Flaw: Obsessed with violence Poor little Ali here is just bouncing from one bully to the next up-and-coming. Danny seems like he just may be trying to stick up for himself, but all he really wants is to learn some serious moves that will totally fuck your shit up. This relationship is only going to end in court. And likely the hospital.Terry Griffith (Joyce Hyser) –Just One of the GuysMajor Flaw: Gender confusion Sure everyone doubts their sexuality at one time or another, but Terry takes it to the extreme. Transferring schools to assume new identity as a male, followed by whole lot of wardrobe malfunctions, not to mention falling in love with another boy…well. Girls, you’re signing up for a life time of closet sharing. He may be sympathetic to what women want, but this one is just not worth the trouble. Han Solo (Harrison Ford) –The Empire Strikes BackMajor Flaw: Egotistical, cold and unfeeling Every girl’s greatest fear, finally getting up the nerve to utter that fateful “L” word, only to be answered with “I know.” Then afterwards he’s just so cold, emotionless, and unresponsive. Lloyd Dobler (John Cusack) –Say AnythingMajor Flaw: Too needy, border line stalker The film that single-handedly allowed teenagers everywhere to believe in the old “opposites attract” adage, forever tying one’s high school love affair memories to moody, mixed tapes starring Peter Gabriel songs. A hint ladies: when you break up with a guy to pursue your education and he stalks around your house at all hours of the day blasting music to get your attention, this is NOT a good thing. Anyone who is worthy of such adoration at 18 should note they can likely do better than a kick-boxing instructor. LT Pete "Maverick" Mitchell(Tom Cruise) -Top GunMajor Flaw: Gay Originally posted on:Dollar Video Curator http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2007/7/12/13744.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Post Date: 7/12/2007 4:00:30 PM
Body: Burning Man, the infamous annual week-long neo-hippie desert sojourn, is partnering with a number of corporations in the name of getting green. Predictably, this has ruffled a few feathers, as it seems to fly in the face of at least one or two of Burning Man's core principles. Brian Doherty, who literally wrote the (or, at least, a) book on Burning Man, says the problem lies in the fact that some members of the Burner community have watched a certain Cameron Crowe movie a few too many times. To quote liberally from an article published today at Reason Online, titled "Generation Dobler": Emotionally, I don't understand why so many people get so upset at being marketed to, or at gleefully acknowledging the good that comes from crafting a social world that is dominated by people willingly exchanging skills, services, and goods. These types could be called Generation Dobler, after the famous quote from the sad sensitive man-child character, Lloyd Dobler, played by John Cusack in the 1989 film Say Anything. Dobler certified his soulfulness by announcing that “I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed.” Which is lovely in its way, I guess, but the reason many people can indeed survive doing none of those things is because of the unprecedented wealth created by those who do. Most moderns, at least when pressed, recognize that commerce makes our lives richer in certain ways. Admittedly, these kinds of libertarian takes on pop culture get me a little too fired up. But still: maybe here's where it's worth noting that Lloyd Dobler as character was, at best, proudly irresponsible, and at worst, totally delusional. He says he's "looking for a dare to be great situation," but seems to define "dare to be great" as "charming a woman of greater intellectual means into letting me follow her halfway across the world." (More simply, and more glaringly, he's a guy in a Clash shirt who tries to win back his lost girlfriend by blasting Peter Gabriel. Cameron Crowe's fans like to wank off to the filmmaker's "talent" for spinning romantic fantasies out of source cues, but has any cinematic moment of ostensible emotional nakedness ever felt less natural for the character at its center?) In other words: for a generation of Lloyd Doblers to survive from one Burning Man to the next, they need a generation of Diane Courts--that is, brains trapped in the bodies of game show hosts--to lovingly foot the bill. [Via BoingBoing] Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:00:30 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com7/12/2007 4:00:30 PM Burning Man, the infamous annual week-long neo-hippie desert sojourn, is partnering with a number of corporations in the name of getting green. Predictably, this has ruffled a few feathers, as it seems to fly in the face of at least one or two of Burning Man's core principles. Brian Doherty, who literally wrote the (or, at least, a) book on Burning Man, says the problem lies in the fact that some members of the Burner community have watched a certain Cameron Crowe movie a few too many times. To quote liberally from an article published today at Reason Online, titled "Generation Dobler": Emotionally, I don't understand why so many people get so upset at being marketed to, or at gleefully acknowledging the good that comes from crafting a social world that is dominated by people willingly exchanging skills, services, and goods. These types could be called Generation Dobler, after the famous quote from the sad sensitive man-child character, Lloyd Dobler, played by John Cusack in the 1989 film Say Anything. Dobler certified his soulfulness by announcing that “I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed.” Which is lovely in its way, I guess, but the reason many people can indeed survive doing none of those things is because of the unprecedented wealth created by those who do. Most moderns, at least when pressed, recognize that commerce makes our lives richer in certain ways. Admittedly, these kinds of libertarian takes on pop culture get me a little too fired up. But still: maybe here's where it's worth noting that Lloyd Dobler as character was, at best, proudly irresponsible, and at worst, totally delusional. He says he's "looking for a dare to be great situation," but seems to define "dare to be great" as "charming a woman of greater intellectual means into letting me follow her halfway across the world." (More simply, and more glaringly, he's a guy in a Clash shirt who tries to win back his lost girlfriend by blasting Peter Gabriel. Cameron Crowe's fans like to wank off to the filmmaker's "talent" for spinning romantic fantasies out of source cues, but has any cinematic moment of ostensible emotional nakedness ever felt less natural for the character at its center?) In other words: for a generation of Lloyd Doblers to survive from one Burning Man to the next, they need a generation of Diane Courts--that is, brains trapped in the bodies of game show hosts--to lovingly foot the bill. [Via BoingBoing] Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/blogs/marymcilwain/archive/2007/6/26/12274.aspx Post By: marymcilwain
Post To: Dollar Video Curator
Post Date: 6/26/2007 6:26:19 PM
Body: Ah romance. Every good video watcher is acutely aware of the down-on-love, romantic teenage flicks that played out with so many star-struck Romeos and Juliets in the idealistic 80’s. We cheered for our plucky, beautiful, yet misunderstood Andie Walshes, Diane Courts, and Wattes in the face of so much love adversity, whether what they lacked was money, an understanding father, or girl’s underwear, and rested easy at the end when they got their men. But should we have? For every one of these “ideal” movie boyfriends, sure signs of loser-dom each display. Here’s just a few reasons why you should’ve run for the hills ladies! Ferris Bueller(Matthew Broderick) –He of the Day OffMajor Flaw: Too eager Yes, he’s charming, cute, fun-loving, inventive and obviously coveted by every other girl in your school, but sheesh. The dude’s talking marriage and he hasn’t even graduated from high school. Sloane, you are way too hot to hitch your star to that wagon. Advice: go to college first and get your M.R.S. from a proper institution.Blane McDonough (Andrew McCarthy) – Pretty In PinkMajor Flaw: Conformist Obviously he cares way too much about status, not too mention what his friends and parents think. He may be willing to make a grand display of devotion at prom, showing his independence when the cameras are rolling, but think about it. If he’s willing to trade-up so easily now when your body’s slammin’ and there is nary a wrinkle or sag, better think to the future. Or marry him fast before he learns the words “Pre-nup.” Keith Nelson (Eric Stoltz) –Some Kind of WonderfulMajor Flaw: SuperficialSecondary Flaw: Clueless You may think his ultra-nemesis Hardy Jenns is more worthy of distinction in this category, but we disagree whole-heartedly. Hardy is what he is. He makes no apology for being a complete dick-face, threatening social stigmata upon every girl who denies his advance, and is not afraid to buy adoration. Keith on the other hand, for all his hatred of Hardy, really is just doing the same thing: buy the prettiest girl in school using his college tuition to purchase a pair of diamond earrings. Not to mention the fact that he’s got a perfectly willing piece right in front of his face and is too stupid to notice. Danny LaRusso (Ralph Macchio) – The Karate KidMajor Flaw: Obsessed with violence Poor little Ali here is just bouncing from one bully to the next up-and-coming. Danny seems like he just may be trying to stick up for himself, but all he really wants is to learn some serious moves that will totally fuck your shit up. This relationship is only going to end in court. And likely the hospital.Terry Griffith (Joyce Hyser) –Just One of the GuysMajor Flaw: Gender confusion Sure everyone doubts their sexuality at one time or another, but Terry takes it to the extreme. Transferring schools to assume new identity as a male, followed by whole lot of wardrobe malfunctions, not to mention falling in love with another boy…well. Girls, you’re signing up for a life time of closet sharing. He may be sympathetic to what women want, but this one is just not worth the trouble. Han Solo (Harrison Ford) –The Empire Strikes BackMajor Flaw: Egotistical, cold and unfeeling Every girl’s greatest fear, finally getting up the nerve to utter that fateful “L” word, only to be answered with “I know.” Then afterwards he’s just so cold, emotionless, and unresponsive. Lloyd Dobler (John Cusack) –Say AnythingMajor Flaw: Too needy, border line stalker The film that single-handedly allowed teenagers everywhere to believe in the old “opposites attract” adage, forever tying one’s high school love affair memories to moody, mixed tapes starring Peter Gabriel songs. A hint ladies: when you break up with a guy to pursue your education and he stalks around your house at all hours of the day blasting music to get your attention, this is NOT a good thing. Anyone who is worthy of such adoration at 18 should note they can likely do better than a kick-boxing instructor. LT Pete "Maverick" Mitchell(Tom Cruise) -Top GunMajor Flaw: Gay Originally posted on:Dollar Video Curator
]]>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:26:19 GMTmarymcilwainDollar Video Curator6/26/2007 6:26:19 PMAh romance. Every good video watcher is acutely aware of the down-on-love, romantic teenage flicks that played out with so many star-struck Romeos and Juliets in the idealistic 80’s. We cheered for our plucky, beautiful, yet misunderstood Andie Walshes, Diane Courts, and Wattes in the face of so much love adversity, whether what they lacked was money, an understanding father, or girl’s underwear, and rested easy at the end when they got their men. But should we have? For every one of these “ideal” movie boyfriends, sure signs of loser-dom each display. Here’s just a few reasons why you should’ve run for the hills ladies! Ferris Bueller(Matthew Broderick) –He of the Day OffMajor Flaw: Too eager Yes, he’s charming, cute, fun-loving, inventive and obviously coveted by every other girl in your school, but sheesh. The dude’s talking marriage and he hasn’t even graduated from high school. Sloane, you are way too hot to hitch your star to that wagon. Advice: go to college first and get your M.R.S. from a proper institution.Blane McDonough (Andrew McCarthy) – Pretty In PinkMajor Flaw: Conformist Obviously he cares way too much about status, not too mention what his friends and parents think. He may be willing to make a grand display of devotion at prom, showing his independence when the cameras are rolling, but think about it. If he’s willing to trade-up so easily now when your body’s slammin’ and there is nary a wrinkle or sag, better think to the future. Or marry him fast before he learns the words “Pre-nup.” Keith Nelson (Eric Stoltz) –Some Kind of WonderfulMajor Flaw: SuperficialSecondary Flaw: Clueless You may think his ultra-nemesis Hardy Jenns is more worthy of distinction in this category, but we disagree whole-heartedly. Hardy is what he is. He makes no apology for being a complete dick-face, threatening social stigmata upon every girl who denies his advance, and is not afraid to buy adoration. Keith on the other hand, for all his hatred of Hardy, really is just doing the same thing: buy the prettiest girl in school using his college tuition to purchase a pair of diamond earrings. Not to mention the fact that he’s got a perfectly willing piece right in front of his face and is too stupid to notice. Danny LaRusso (Ralph Macchio) – The Karate KidMajor Flaw: Obsessed with violence Poor little Ali here is just bouncing from one bully to the next up-and-coming. Danny seems like he just may be trying to stick up for himself, but all he really wants is to learn some serious moves that will totally fuck your shit up. This relationship is only going to end in court. And likely the hospital.Terry Griffith (Joyce Hyser) –Just One of the GuysMajor Flaw: Gender confusion Sure everyone doubts their sexuality at one time or another, but Terry takes it to the extreme. Transferring schools to assume new identity as a male, followed by whole lot of wardrobe malfunctions, not to mention falling in love with another boy…well. Girls, you’re signing up for a life time of closet sharing. He may be sympathetic to what women want, but this one is just not worth the trouble. Han Solo (Harrison Ford) –The Empire Strikes BackMajor Flaw: Egotistical, cold and unfeeling Every girl’s greatest fear, finally getting up the nerve to utter that fateful “L” word, only to be answered with “I know.” Then afterwards he’s just so cold, emotionless, and unresponsive. Lloyd Dobler (John Cusack) –Say AnythingMajor Flaw: Too needy, border line stalker The film that single-handedly allowed teenagers everywhere to believe in the old “opposites attract” adage, forever tying one’s high school love affair memories to moody, mixed tapes starring Peter Gabriel songs. A hint ladies: when you break up with a guy to pursue your education and he stalks around your house at all hours of the day blasting music to get your attention, this is NOT a good thing. Anyone who is worthy of such adoration at 18 should note they can likely do better than a kick-boxing instructor. LT Pete "Maverick" Mitchell(Tom Cruise) -Top GunMajor Flaw: Gay Originally posted on:Dollar Video Curator http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/love/MemberTagFilms.aspxlove
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