list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around The Ruling Class on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/The_Ruling_Class/29643/default.aspx Title: The Ruling Class
Year: 1972
Director: Peter Medak
Plot: An institutionalized schizophrenic with a Messiah complex inherits the position of an English Earl in this cutting satire of British society, based on a play by Peter Barnes. The film's irreverent tone is established with the disturbingly hilarious death of the thirteenth Earl of Gurney during a bizarre attempt at auto-erotic asphyxiation. To the dismay of the earl's family, the title passes to his son Jack (Peter O'Toole), who has been locked away for eight years after claiming to be the second coming of Jesus Christ. Mad but harmless, Jack is released to assume his seat. However, his embrace of Christianity proves incompatible with a position of power in "normal" society, where peace and love are considered serious weaknesses, and a somewhat unhinged psychiatrist is called to help him adjust. Meanwhile, Jack's scheming uncle, Sir Charles (William Mervyn), works on developing a complex scheme to trick Jack out of his position. Loaded with idiosyncratic touches from eccentric camera angles to unexpected outbursts of song, the film creates an experience nearly as inspired and mad as O'Toole's brilliantly hilarious central performance. The film's devilish invention may at times seem overloaded, but most drawbacks are redeemed by the sharpness of the satire, particularly during the memorably disturbing finale. ~ Judd Blaise, All Movie Guide
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]]>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 02:05:26 GMTThe Ruling Class1972Peter MedakAn institutionalized schizophrenic with a Messiah complex inherits the position of an English Earl in this cutting satire of British society, based on a play by Peter Barnes. The film's irreverent tone is established with the disturbingly hilarious death of the thirteenth Earl of Gurney during a bizarre attempt at auto-erotic asphyxiation. To the dismay of the earl's family, the title passes to his son Jack (<a href="/players/P____53681/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Peter O'Toole</a>), who has been locked away for eight years after claiming to be the second coming of Jesus Christ. Mad but harmless, Jack is released to assume his seat. However, his embrace of Christianity proves incompatible with a position of power in "normal" society, where peace and love are considered serious weaknesses, and a somewhat unhinged psychiatrist is called to help him adjust. Meanwhile, Jack's scheming uncle, Sir Charles (<a href="/players/P____48641/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>William Mervyn</a>), works on developing a complex scheme to trick Jack out of his position. Loaded with idiosyncratic touches from eccentric camera angles to unexpected outbursts of song, the film creates an experience nearly as inspired and mad as O'Toole's brilliantly hilarious central performance. The film's devilish invention may at times seem overloaded, but most drawbacks are redeemed by the sharpness of the satire, particularly during the memorably disturbing finale. ~ Judd Blaise, All Movie Guide17Tag Target (>10)1874http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t14432pxqvq.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/The_Ruling_Class/29643/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/risselada/archive/2009/10/1/44087.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 10/1/2009 10:35:13 AM
Body: This is the second feature length film I've seen by director Peter Medak. I chose to watch this film based on previous good ratings I've given other films by this director and to better my favorite directors by algorithm listing. The Changeling This is a very different kind of film from The Ruling Class, the other Peter Medak directed film I have seen, which I consider a masterpiece. With that film, although the direction is quite skilled and is essential for the success of the film, I'm not sure if I can allow Medak to take as much credit for the success based on other factors. First of all, the script is brilliant and still would be, even with the worst presentation. Peter Barnes who wrote the original play and adapted it for the screen must be given enormous credit. More than would the case for the average screenwriter I think. Next, this film would never have been possible also without Peter O'Toole (three Peters made this movie, kind of funny), not only because his acting was absolutely the best you could imagine for the part, but also because he really worked to make sure this film got to the screen and even worked for free. I'm not sure how much work he and the producers had over Medak, but the casting of the rest of the film is so brilliant as well. Alastair Sim, Arthur Lowe, Coral Browne, William Mervyn, Nigel Green, all amazing! Now, this blog isn't supposed to be about that film, but here is my only previous impress of work associated with Peter Medak. Now while The Ruling Class was a dark British comedy, a satire of the class system and the musical, The Changeling is a creepy American ghost story. And there is no question about Medak's abilities as a director when it comes to creepy and chilling! He's maybe the best! I was seriously creeped for most of the film. I was almost going to give this film a higher rating than I did, until after the film when I began to reflect on it more. A lot of the film didn't really add up. Things were done just for the sake of being creepy sometimes, without any real logic. I wouldn't have minded if the movie was simply creepy and illogical, but the film tried to turn itself into a mystery with its own logic. So if the film depends on that, then I'm going to hold it to it. The spiritual powers of the ghost just seem kind of arbitrary is what I'm saying here. And after reading Roger Ebert's original review from the film back when it first came out, I agree that George C. Scott's character being so stoic and without fear at any time seems like a mistake. Over all though a great haunted house movie, especially for people who aren't as picky as me. Peter Medak:Total feature length films seen: 2Previous average film score: 10New average film score: 8.5 Rating: 7/10
]]>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:35:13 GMTRisseladaRisselada Blog10/1/2009 10:35:13 AMThis is the second feature length film I've seen by director Peter Medak. I chose to watch this film based on previous good ratings I've given other films by this director and to better my favorite directors by algorithm listing. The Changeling This is a very different kind of film from The Ruling Class, the other Peter Medak directed film I have seen, which I consider a masterpiece. With that film, although the direction is quite skilled and is essential for the success of the film, I'm not sure if I can allow Medak to take as much credit for the success based on other factors. First of all, the script is brilliant and still would be, even with the worst presentation. Peter Barnes who wrote the original play and adapted it for the screen must be given enormous credit. More than would the case for the average screenwriter I think. Next, this film would never have been possible also without Peter O'Toole (three Peters made this movie, kind of funny), not only because his acting was absolutely the best you could imagine for the part, but also because he really worked to make sure this film got to the screen and even worked for free. I'm not sure how much work he and the producers had over Medak, but the casting of the rest of the film is so brilliant as well. Alastair Sim, Arthur Lowe, Coral Browne, William Mervyn, Nigel Green, all amazing! Now, this blog isn't supposed to be about that film, but here is my only previous impress of work associated with Peter Medak. Now while The Ruling Class was a dark British comedy, a satire of the class system and the musical, The Changeling is a creepy American ghost story. And there is no question about Medak's abilities as a director when it comes to creepy and chilling! He's maybe the best! I was seriously creeped for most of the film. I was almost going to give this film a higher rating than I did, until after the film when I began to reflect on it more. A lot of the film didn't really add up. Things were done just for the sake of being creepy sometimes, without any real logic. I wouldn't have minded if the movie was simply creepy and illogical, but the film tried to turn itself into a mystery with its own logic. So if the film depends on that, then I'm going to hold it to it. The spiritual powers of the ghost just seem kind of arbitrary is what I'm saying here. And after reading Roger Ebert's original review from the film back when it first came out, I agree that George C. Scott's character being so stoic and without fear at any time seems like a mistake. Over all though a great haunted house movie, especially for people who aren't as picky as me. Peter Medak:Total feature length films seen: 2Previous average film score: 10New average film score: 8.5 Rating: 7/10 http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_April_13_Going_To_The_Chapel/625/41636/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 4/17/2009 2:06:05 PM
Body: [quote user="mercurial"] I've finally reached that age where it seems all of my friends are getting married. The ceremonies are fun: watching my buddies committing their lives to a person they love, but what is even better is when there is an open bar and a decently catered meal. Wedding Crashers was a hilarious film based almost entirely on this notion. Knowing my friends, I'm surprised that none of them have had one of those spur of the moment weddings in Las Vegas at a 24 hour chapel with an Elvis impersonator like in What Happens In Vegas and Love Stinks. Speaking of Vegas, there are a lot of movies featuring the pre-wedding bachelor party going there and everything running amuck like in Very Bad Things. But don't get me wrong, those intimate family weddings following years of tradition are cool too. With kilts and bagpipes, Mike Myers has a traditional Scottish wedding in So I Married An Axe Murderer; Mira Nair showed us the ups and downs of an arranged Indian marriage in Monsoon Wedding; and of course Disney has perverted the minds of millions of young girls by making them believe that fairy tale weddings like in Enchanted, etc are the only way to get married (which has resulted in films like Bride Wars when everything doesn't go right). [/quote] I'm looking through this list and realizing that movies that feature heavily on weddings tend to turn me off. I'm not sure why exactly. I'll have to do some soul searching. But has anyone ever seen The Ruling Class? That features what is probably one of the funniest at the alter scenes I've ever watched. Between Alastair Sim and Peter O'Toole I was just doubled over!
]]>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:06:05 GMTRisseladaWeekly Theme4/17/2009 2:06:05 PM[quote user="mercurial"] I've finally reached that age where it seems all of my friends are getting married. The ceremonies are fun: watching my buddies committing their lives to a person they love, but what is even better is when there is an open bar and a decently catered meal. Wedding Crashers was a hilarious film based almost entirely on this notion. Knowing my friends, I'm surprised that none of them have had one of those spur of the moment weddings in Las Vegas at a 24 hour chapel with an Elvis impersonator like in What Happens In Vegas and Love Stinks. Speaking of Vegas, there are a lot of movies featuring the pre-wedding bachelor party going there and everything running amuck like in Very Bad Things. But don't get me wrong, those intimate family weddings following years of tradition are cool too. With kilts and bagpipes, Mike Myers has a traditional Scottish wedding in So I Married An Axe Murderer; Mira Nair showed us the ups and downs of an arranged Indian marriage in Monsoon Wedding; and of course Disney has perverted the minds of millions of young girls by making them believe that fairy tale weddings like in Enchanted, etc are the only way to get married (which has resulted in films like Bride Wars when everything doesn't go right). [/quote] I'm looking through this list and realizing that movies that feature heavily on weddings tend to turn me off. I'm not sure why exactly. I'll have to do some soul searching. But has anyone ever seen The Ruling Class? That features what is probably one of the funniest at the alter scenes I've ever watched. Between Alastair Sim and Peter O'Toole I was just doubled over! http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/Re_Which_of_these_Ebeneezer_Scrooge_performances_i/657/38822/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 12/24/2008 2:16:25 PM
Body: [quote user="QFLW"] [quote user="Risselada"] I voted for Sim too. I was first introduced to him through one of my absolute favorite movies, The Ruling Class. It lead me to see him in Scrooge. I really need to check him out in more things. I just read this bit of trivia on IMDB and now I can toally see the resemblence: Alastair's performance in London Belongs to Me (1948) so impressed Alec Guinness that he based his performance in The Ladykillers (1955) on it. So much so that Alastair is often thought to have done it. [/quote] Absolutely, The Ruling Class! One of my big faves, too. How could I forget Sim was in that?? I haven't seen London Belongs to Me -- that's now on my list. I loved Guinness in The Ladykillers... Getting back to Scrooges for a min. -- although I love Bill Murray, I wasn't taken with Scrooged. Nor with his turn in The Razor's Edge. In some settings that flippant obnoxiousness doesn't work. [/quote] I accidentally linked the wrong version of London Belongs to Me. The one with Sim is actually listed as Dulcimer Street on Spout.
]]>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 19:16:25 GMTRisseladaMovie Polls12/24/2008 2:16:25 PM[quote user="QFLW"] [quote user="Risselada"] I voted for Sim too. I was first introduced to him through one of my absolute favorite movies, The Ruling Class. It lead me to see him in Scrooge. I really need to check him out in more things. I just read this bit of trivia on IMDB and now I can toally see the resemblence: Alastair's performance in London Belongs to Me (1948) so impressed Alec Guinness that he based his performance in The Ladykillers (1955) on it. So much so that Alastair is often thought to have done it. [/quote] Absolutely, The Ruling Class! One of my big faves, too. How could I forget Sim was in that?? I haven't seen London Belongs to Me -- that's now on my list. I loved Guinness in The Ladykillers... Getting back to Scrooges for a min. -- although I love Bill Murray, I wasn't taken with Scrooged. Nor with his turn in The Razor's Edge. In some settings that flippant obnoxiousness doesn't work. [/quote] I accidentally linked the wrong version of London Belongs to Me. The one with Sim is actually listed as Dulcimer Street on Spout. http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/Re_Which_of_these_Ebeneezer_Scrooge_performances_i/657/38810/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: QFLW
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Post Date: 12/24/2008 11:01:17 AM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"] I voted for Sim too. I was first introduced to him through one of my absolute favorite movies, The Ruling Class. It lead me to see him in Scrooge. I really need to check him out in more things. I just read this bit of trivia on IMDB and now I can toally see the resemblence: Alastair's performance in London Belongs to Me (1948) so impressed Alec Guinness that he based his performance in The Ladykillers (1955) on it. So much so that Alastair is often thought to have done it. [/quote] Absolutely, The Ruling Class! One of my big faves, too. How could I forget Sim was in that?? I haven't seen London Belongs to Me -- that's now on my list. I loved Guinness in The Ladykillers... Getting back to Scrooges for a min. -- although I love Bill Murray, I wasn't taken with Scrooged. Nor with his turn in The Razor's Edge. In some settings that flippant obnoxiousness doesn't work.
]]>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 16:01:17 GMTQFLWMovie Polls12/24/2008 11:01:17 AM[quote user="Risselada"] I voted for Sim too. I was first introduced to him through one of my absolute favorite movies, The Ruling Class. It lead me to see him in Scrooge. I really need to check him out in more things. I just read this bit of trivia on IMDB and now I can toally see the resemblence: Alastair's performance in London Belongs to Me (1948) so impressed Alec Guinness that he based his performance in The Ladykillers (1955) on it. So much so that Alastair is often thought to have done it. [/quote] Absolutely, The Ruling Class! One of my big faves, too. How could I forget Sim was in that?? I haven't seen London Belongs to Me -- that's now on my list. I loved Guinness in The Ladykillers... Getting back to Scrooges for a min. -- although I love Bill Murray, I wasn't taken with Scrooged. Nor with his turn in The Razor's Edge. In some settings that flippant obnoxiousness doesn't work. http://www.spout.com/groups/Movie_Polls/Re_Which_of_these_Ebeneezer_Scrooge_performances_i/657/38777/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 12/23/2008 5:20:46 PM
Body: [quote user="QFLW"] Of all the Ebenezer Scrooges I've seen over the years, Alastair Sim looked and sounded closest to the way I'd envisioned Scrooge in my head. His transformation performance is the best, too, I think. The most naturally convincing. Not too sudden or over the top. It's a fine line--easy to get the timing and intensity wrong. Though a number of these Carol versions are good, I think my second favorite Scrooge is Mr. Magoo. :-) . [/quote] I voted for Sim too. I was first introduced to him through one of my absolute favorite movies, The Ruling Class. It lead me to see him in Scrooge. I really need to check him out in more things. I just read this bit of trivia on IMDB and now I can toally see the resemblence: Alastair's performance in London Belongs to Me (1948) so impressed Alec Guinness that he based his performance in The Ladykillers (1955) on it. So much so that Alastair is often thought to have done it.
]]>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:20:46 GMTRisseladaMovie Polls12/23/2008 5:20:46 PM[quote user="QFLW"] Of all the Ebenezer Scrooges I've seen over the years, Alastair Sim looked and sounded closest to the way I'd envisioned Scrooge in my head. His transformation performance is the best, too, I think. The most naturally convincing. Not too sudden or over the top. It's a fine line--easy to get the timing and intensity wrong. Though a number of these Carol versions are good, I think my second favorite Scrooge is Mr. Magoo. :-) . [/quote] I voted for Sim too. I was first introduced to him through one of my absolute favorite movies, The Ruling Class. It lead me to see him in Scrooge. I really need to check him out in more things. I just read this bit of trivia on IMDB and now I can toally see the resemblence: Alastair's performance in London Belongs to Me (1948) so impressed Alec Guinness that he based his performance in The Ladykillers (1955) on it. So much so that Alastair is often thought to have done it. http://www.spout.com/groups/Coming_Soon/Re_Time_Travel_Aliens_and_Biopics_New_movies/216/38236/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 12/11/2008 11:08:20 AM
Body: [quote user="SkyPilot"] What are your favorite biopics? I asked some friends at Spout about their favorites, and one said, "Does Braveheart count?" Here are some others they listed: ......... 1. Amadeus -- Watch the trailer. This one I need to watch again. I remember it as an interesting movie for anyone who feels like a Salieri when they meet a Mozart. ............ GOOD MOVIES THAT COME FROM PLAYS [/quote] Amadeus if FANTASTIC! And it ALSO comes from a play. So it's really the all around winner of your lists this week. I'd also mention Sleuth (haven't seen the new one yet), The Ruling Class, and Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead (woah, Spout says there's a 2008 version of this play with Ralph Maccio too!) as some of my other favorites that are based on plays.
]]>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:08:20 GMTRisseladaComing Soon12/11/2008 11:08:20 AM[quote user="SkyPilot"] What are your favorite biopics? I asked some friends at Spout about their favorites, and one said, "Does Braveheart count?" Here are some others they listed: ......... 1. Amadeus -- Watch the trailer. This one I need to watch again. I remember it as an interesting movie for anyone who feels like a Salieri when they meet a Mozart. ............ GOOD MOVIES THAT COME FROM PLAYS [/quote] Amadeus if FANTASTIC! And it ALSO comes from a play. So it's really the all around winner of your lists this week. I'd also mention Sleuth (haven't seen the new one yet), The Ruling Class, and Rosencrantz &amp; Guildenstern Are Dead (woah, Spout says there's a 2008 version of this play with Ralph Maccio too!) as some of my other favorites that are based on plays. http://www.spout.com/groups/Filmspotting/Re_Top_5_Movies_About_Music/304/11738/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 6/22/2007 5:03:34 PM
Body: I'm not sure why everyone always makes these self imposed rules like "no bio pics" and such.First of all it's hard to pick movies about music because movies themselves almost ARE music. Music is certainly the closest artform to film.I'm just going to do a search for keyword "music" on IMDB for movies I rated and pick the ones that seems the most relevent.The Singing Detective. A great mini-series and a great film. The film took what was fundamentally British in the miniseries and found the American equivalent. Wow this movie is dense and beautiful. I've found out that the musicals I like that most are ones that don't have original music but use prexisting familiar music in a way to inform or contrast the themes of it's particular story.Amadeus. There's no reason this movie shouldn't count. It's just too good.The Ruling Class. Another great British film to use prewritten music to amazing darkly comic and profound effect.The Hole. This is like The Singing Detective and The Ruling Class but in Taiwan. I've been trying to find a good collection of Grace Chang songs after this, but I can't find any distributed in the USA.This Is Spinal Tap. Yeah you know. For a runner up, Ghost World is about collecting some great vintage R. Crumb/Terry Zwigoff fan type music.
]]>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:03:34 GMTRisseladaFilmspotting6/22/2007 5:03:34 PMI&#39;m not sure why everyone always makes these self imposed rules like "no bio pics" and such.First of all it&#39;s hard to pick movies about music because movies themselves almost ARE music. Music is certainly the closest artform to film.I&#39;m just going to do a search for keyword "music" on IMDB for movies I rated and pick the ones that seems the most relevent.The Singing Detective. A great mini-series and a great film. The film took what was fundamentally British in the miniseries and found the American equivalent. Wow this movie is dense and beautiful. I&#39;ve found out that the musicals I like that most are ones that don&#39;t have original music but use prexisting familiar music in a way to inform or contrast the themes of it&#39;s particular story.Amadeus. There&#39;s no reason this movie shouldn&#39;t count. It&#39;s just too good.The Ruling Class. Another great British film to use prewritten music to amazing darkly comic and profound effect.The Hole. This is like The Singing Detective and The Ruling Class but in Taiwan. I&#39;ve been trying to find a good collection of Grace Chang songs after this, but I can&#39;t find any distributed in the USA.This Is Spinal Tap. Yeah you know. For a runner up, Ghost World is about collecting some great vintage R. Crumb/Terry Zwigoff fan type music. http://www.spout.com/groups/British_Invasion/Re_Favorites/188/6683/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 4/3/2007 1:04:32 PM
Body: Alright here's a few British gems that do good things for me. I believe these are all British in some way. Please correct me if otherwise:Two Bruce Robinson classics:Withnail & IHow to Get Ahead in AdvertisingThe Ruling ClassSleuthA Clockwork OrangeRosencrantz and Guildenstern are DeadDirty Pretty ThingsSecrets & LiesBarry LyndonTime BanditsThe LadykillersKind Hearts and CoronetsThe HomecomingA Christmas Carol (1951)Snatch.The Third ManThe Elephant ManFollowingA Zed & Two NoughtsBrazilOliver TwistThe Pink PantherA Shot in the Dark I hear that Kenneth Branaugh is supposedly directing a new film of Sleuth. It looks as though Michael Caine will be taking the other role in this one. What do people think about this?
]]>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:04:32 GMTRisseladaBritish Invasion4/3/2007 1:04:32 PMAlright here&#39;s a few British gems that do good things for me. I believe these are all British in some way. Please correct me if otherwise:Two Bruce Robinson classics:Withnail &amp; IHow to Get Ahead in AdvertisingThe Ruling ClassSleuthA Clockwork OrangeRosencrantz and Guildenstern are DeadDirty Pretty ThingsSecrets &amp; LiesBarry LyndonTime BanditsThe LadykillersKind Hearts and CoronetsThe HomecomingA Christmas Carol (1951)Snatch.The Third ManThe Elephant ManFollowingA Zed &amp; Two NoughtsBrazilOliver TwistThe Pink PantherA Shot in the Dark I hear that Kenneth Branaugh is supposedly directing a new film of Sleuth. It looks as though Michael Caine will be taking the other role in this one. What do people think about this? http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/Classic/MemberTagFilms.aspxClassic
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