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      <title>Film:Rio Bravo</title>
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<strong>Title:</strong> Rio Bravo<br/>
<strong>Year:</strong> 1959<br/>
<strong>Director:</strong> Howard Hawks<br/>
<strong>Plot:</strong> Set in Texas during the late 1860s, Rio Bravo is a story of men (and women) and a town under siege. Presidio County Sheriff John T. Chance (<a href="/players/P___116130/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Wayne</a>) is holding Joe Burdette (<a href="/players/P______589/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Claude Akins</a>), a worthless, drunken thug, for the murder of an unarmed man in a fight in a saloon -- the problem is that Joe is the brother of wealthy land baron Nathan Burdette (<a href="/players/P___109331/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Russell</a>), who owns a big chunk of the county and can buy all the hired guns he doesn't already have working for him. Burdette's men cut the town off to prevent Chance from getting Joe into more secure surroundings, and then the hired guns come in, waiting around for their chance to break him out of jail. Chance has to wait for the United States marshal to show up, in six days, his only help from Stumpy (<a href="/players/P_____8313/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Walter Brennan</a>), a toothless, cantankerous old deputy with a bad leg who guards the jail, and Dude (<a href="/players/P___121802/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Dean Martin</a>), his former deputy, who's spent the last two years stumbling around in a drunken stupor over a woman that left him. Chance's friend, trail boss Pat Wheeler (<a href="/players/P_____7236/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ward Bond</a>), arrives at the outset of the siege and tries to help, offering the services of himself and his drovers as deputies, which Chance turns down, saying they're not professionals and would be too worried about their families to be good at anything except being targets for Burdette's men; but Chance does try to enlist the services of Wheeler's newest employee, a callow-looking young gunman named Colorado Ryan (<a href="/players/P____52220/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ricky Nelson</a>), who politely turns him down, saying he prefers to mind his own business. In the midst of all of this tension, Feathers (<a href="/players/P____19096/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Angie Dickinson</a>), a dance hall entertainer, arrives in town and nearly gets locked up by Chance for cheating at cards, until he finds out that he was wrong and that she's not guilty -- this starts a verbal duel between the two of them that grows more sexually intense as the movie progresses and she finds herself in the middle of Chance's fight. Wheeler is murdered by one of Burgette's hired guns who is, in turn, killed by Dude in an intense confrontation in a saloon. Colorado throws in with Chance after his boss is killed and picks up some of the slack left by Dude, who isn't quite over his need for a drink or the shakes that come with trying to stop. Chance and Burdette keep raising the ante on each other, Chance, Dude, and Colorado killing enough of the rancher's men that he's got to double what he's paying to make it worth the risk, and the undertaker (Joseph Shimada) gets plenty of business from Burdette before the two sides arrive at a stalemate -- Burdette is holding Dude and will release him in exchange for Joe. This leads to the final, bloody confrontation between Chance and Burdette, where the wagons brought to town by the murdered Wheeler play an unexpected and essential role in tipping the balance. ~ Bruce Eder, All Movie Guide<br/>
<strong>Times Tagged:</strong> 10<br/>
<strong>Number of Lists:</strong> 24<br/>
<strong>Number of blog posts:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>Number of discussion threads:</strong> 2<br/>
<strong>SpoutRating:</strong> 4<br/>
</td></tr></table>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:38:02 GMT</pubDate><spout:Title>Rio Bravo</spout:Title><spout:Year>1959</spout:Year><spout:Director>Howard Hawks</spout:Director><spout:Plot>Set in Texas during the late 1860s, Rio Bravo is a story of men (and women) and a town under siege. Presidio County Sheriff John T. Chance (&lt;a href="/players/P___116130/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;John Wayne&lt;/a&gt;) is holding Joe Burdette (&lt;a href="/players/P______589/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Claude Akins&lt;/a&gt;), a worthless, drunken thug, for the murder of an unarmed man in a fight in a saloon -- the problem is that Joe is the brother of wealthy land baron Nathan Burdette (&lt;a href="/players/P___109331/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;John Russell&lt;/a&gt;), who owns a big chunk of the county and can buy all the hired guns he doesn't already have working for him. Burdette's men cut the town off to prevent Chance from getting Joe into more secure surroundings, and then the hired guns come in, waiting around for their chance to break him out of jail. Chance has to wait for the United States marshal to show up, in six days, his only help from Stumpy (&lt;a href="/players/P_____8313/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Walter Brennan&lt;/a&gt;), a toothless, cantankerous old deputy with a bad leg who guards the jail, and Dude (&lt;a href="/players/P___121802/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Dean Martin&lt;/a&gt;), his former deputy, who's spent the last two years stumbling around in a drunken stupor over a woman that left him. Chance's friend, trail boss Pat Wheeler (&lt;a href="/players/P_____7236/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Ward Bond&lt;/a&gt;), arrives at the outset of the siege and tries to help, offering the services of himself and his drovers as deputies, which Chance turns down, saying they're not professionals and would be too worried about their families to be good at anything except being targets for Burdette's men; but Chance does try to enlist the services of Wheeler's newest employee, a callow-looking young gunman named Colorado Ryan (&lt;a href="/players/P____52220/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Ricky Nelson&lt;/a&gt;), who politely turns him down, saying he prefers to mind his own business. In the midst of all of this tension, Feathers (&lt;a href="/players/P____19096/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'&gt;Angie Dickinson&lt;/a&gt;), a dance hall entertainer, arrives in town and nearly gets locked up by Chance for cheating at cards, until he finds out that he was wrong and that she's not guilty -- this starts a verbal duel between the two of them that grows more sexually intense as the movie progresses and she finds herself in the middle of Chance's fight. Wheeler is murdered by one of Burgette's hired guns who is, in turn, killed by Dude in an intense confrontation in a saloon. Colorado throws in with Chance after his boss is killed and picks up some of the slack left by Dude, who isn't quite over his need for a drink or the shakes that come with trying to stop. Chance and Burdette keep raising the ante on each other, Chance, Dude, and Colorado killing enough of the rancher's men that he's got to double what he's paying to make it worth the risk, and the undertaker (Joseph Shimada) gets plenty of business from Burdette before the two sides arrive at a stalemate -- Burdette is holding Dude and will release him in exchange for Joe. This leads to the final, bloody confrontation between Chance and Burdette, where the wagons brought to town by the murdered Wheeler play an unexpected and essential role in tipping the balance. ~ Bruce Eder, All Movie Guide</spout:Plot><spout:TimesTagged>10</spout:TimesTagged><spout:taglevel>Taggedy Taggged (6-10)</spout:taglevel><spout:Numberoflists>24</spout:Numberoflists><spout:NumberOfBlogPosts>2</spout:NumberOfBlogPosts><spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads>2</spout:NumberOfDiscussionThreads><spout:SpoutRating>4</spout:SpoutRating><spout:FilmCoverURL>http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u35885jq9a9.jpg</spout:FilmCoverURL><spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL>http://www.spout.com/films/Rio_Bravo/28998/default.aspx</spout:SpoutFilmDetailURL><spout:type>Film</spout:type></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Blow-Up Rio Bravo In the Heat of Strange Cannibal</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/blogs/dibot/archive/2008/9/21/35357.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u35885jq9a9.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/17539/default.aspx'>dibot</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/blogs/dibot/default.aspx'>dibot Blog</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 9/21/2008 11:37:04 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> I now know why people love John Wayne ("The Shootist"). Directed by Howard Hawks ("Rio Lobo"), Rio Bravo stars Wayne as a sheriff in an old-west town trying to hold a powerful man in jail until the Marshall comes. For help he has a recovering alcoholic deputy, played beautifully by Dean Martin ("Cannonball Run II"), and an old hilarious, crotchety jail keeper, played by Walter Brennan ("Smoke in the Wind"). They pick up Ricky Nelson ("Sonic Boom") for a little more backup and some singing. The four take a stand against many hired and better armed men. And there's a sassy gambler, Angie Dickinson ("Elvis Has Left the Building"), for Wayne to fall for. And it's three hours of movie magic. Loved it.Though Blow-Up features more beautiful shots than gripping plot, I found myself glued to the screen. This is the first film I've seen from director Michelangelo Antonioni ("Eros"), and if his other films live up to this, I can't wait to watch more. The story focuses on a snotty photographer, played by David Hemmings ("Gangs of New York"), who catches a murder on film. Then he tries to figure out what to do about it. The film is gorgeous shot after gorgeous shot, then some attitude from Hemmings, then some more gorgeous shots. Then it ends with mimes playing tennis. Awesome.I finally saw In the Heat of the Night and my love for Sidney Poitier ("The Jackal") has grown with the viewing. Basically, the film is a murder mystery, but so much more is going on. Poitier is a Philadelphia detective passing through rural Mississippi when the murder occurs. He's accused by the local racist sheriff, Rod Steiger ("Poolhall Junkies"), who is then forced to work with him to solve the case. Steiger won the Best Actor Oscar for his work, and the film won another four Oscars, including Best Picture.My love for Steve Zahn ("Rescue Dawn") has finally found a bridge it cannot cross, Strange Wilderness. Zahn stars as the host of a televisions wildlife show that he inherited from his father. Sadly, Zahn and his crew are terrible documentarians who don't check facts and record ridiculous narration for the program. So the show fails, but they go on a quest of find Big Foot to try and save it. And the movie is as ludicrous as the plot sounds. A few funny bits, mostly delivered by Justin Long ("Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story"). A very big disappointment.Cannibal Holocaust is the worst movie ever. It's not art. It's not entertainment. It isn't even very shocking, except the parts where they were killing real animals. I urge you not to rent this tasteless and brainless film so the director will get no residuals.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:37:04 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>dibot</spout:postby><spout:postto>dibot Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>9/21/2008 11:37:04 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>I now know why people love John Wayne ("The Shootist"). Directed by Howard Hawks ("Rio Lobo"), Rio Bravo stars Wayne as a sheriff in an old-west town trying to hold a powerful man in jail until the Marshall comes. For help he has a recovering alcoholic deputy, played beautifully by Dean Martin ("Cannonball Run II"), and an old hilarious, crotchety jail keeper, played by Walter Brennan ("Smoke in the Wind"). They pick up Ricky Nelson ("Sonic Boom") for a little more backup and some singing. The four take a stand against many hired and better armed men. And there's a sassy gambler, Angie Dickinson ("Elvis Has Left the Building"), for Wayne to fall for. And it's three hours of movie magic. Loved it.Though Blow-Up features more beautiful shots than gripping plot, I found myself glued to the screen. This is the first film I've seen from director Michelangelo Antonioni ("Eros"), and if his other films live up to this, I can't wait to watch more. The story focuses on a snotty photographer, played by David Hemmings ("Gangs of New York"), who catches a murder on film. Then he tries to figure out what to do about it. The film is gorgeous shot after gorgeous shot, then some attitude from Hemmings, then some more gorgeous shots. Then it ends with mimes playing tennis. Awesome.I finally saw In the Heat of the Night and my love for Sidney Poitier ("The Jackal") has grown with the viewing. Basically, the film is a murder mystery, but so much more is going on. Poitier is a Philadelphia detective passing through rural Mississippi when the murder occurs. He's accused by the local racist sheriff, Rod Steiger ("Poolhall Junkies"), who is then forced to work with him to solve the case. Steiger won the Best Actor Oscar for his work, and the film won another four Oscars, including Best Picture.My love for Steve Zahn ("Rescue Dawn") has finally found a bridge it cannot cross, Strange Wilderness. Zahn stars as the host of a televisions wildlife show that he inherited from his father. Sadly, Zahn and his crew are terrible documentarians who don't check facts and record ridiculous narration for the program. So the show fails, but they go on a quest of find Big Foot to try and save it. And the movie is as ludicrous as the plot sounds. A few funny bits, mostly delivered by Justin Long ("Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story"). A very big disappointment.Cannibal Holocaust is the worst movie ever. It's not art. It's not entertainment. It isn't even very shocking, except the parts where they were killing real animals. I urge you not to rent this tasteless and brainless film so the director will get no residuals.</spout:body></item>
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      <title>Spout Post: Re:A new pack of RESERVOIR DOGS (1992)</title>
      <link>http://www.spout.com/groups/Filmgaming/Re_A_new_pack_of_RESERVOIR_DOGS_1992/563/32750/1/ShowPost.aspx</link><description><![CDATA[<div><img align='left' src='http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u35885jq9a9.jpg' hspace='10' style='height:80px;' />
<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/135575/default.aspx'>theunemployedshortstop</a><br/>
<strong>Post To:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/groups/Filmgaming/563/discussions.aspx'>Filmgaming</a><br/>
<strong>Post Date:</strong> 7/18/2008 9:44:33 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> The Epic Tale of "The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge."     The Conceit:  Due to a trans-dimensional rift caused by the AWESOMENESS of the Inglorious Bastards screenplay Quentin Tarantino is able to jump into a dimension where the world is perpetually in the early fifties.  The impish auteur (also great collaborator) is eager to see what some of his favorite directors and writers would do with his material.  He gives a vague outline of Reservoir Dogs to Carl Foreman.  Bitter over the HUAC hearings of 1947, Forman takes the idea of the mole cop and turns it into a commentary on witch hunting (like the Crucible set in the American West&hellip; with action and no weeping, whining, or three hour yawn-fest&hellip; just kidding).  Production:  The studio loved the concept and saw Anthony Mann as the director.  His surprising presentation of the morally grey double agents in T &ndash; Men and his success as a visual director of both noir and westerns would yield a fantastic visual motif.  Foreman set the film in an abandoned camp&hellip; rumored to have once been a lush valley, the area is now a barren gorge of salt (Hence Gomorrah Gorge though the studio would want to back off of this title&hellip; hence the title of Guthrie's song).   Mann shot the film in the Colombia River Gorge and the surrounding desert like region of Eastern  Washington.  It was more visually arresting than the Rocky Mountain back drop of The Naked Spur. Rewrites:  Leigh Brackett (script doctor supreme: The Big Sleep, Rio Bravo, The Empire Strikes Back) is hired to tone down the political commentary and add some sex appeal.  Miss Brackett split the role of Nice Guy Eddy (now Cow Puncher Bob) into two roles:  Two siblings competing for their father's approval (much like Duel in the Sun) Cow Puncher Bob, a slick but incompetent rustler, and Grifter Gurdy, modeled after Lauren Bacall's con women / gambler characters from To Have and Have Not and The Big Sleep.  The love triangle between Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy pleased the studio (however they were angered when they saw Anthony Mann's finished product because of the homosexual overtones that Clift brought out in the mentor relationship between Cub and Timber Wolf).  Casting: Gary Cooper as Mr. White/ Timber Wolf:  Cooper's leadership and bravery in taking a role that John Wayne thought was un-American is stellar, comparable only to his work on High Noon.  Cooper's earnest desire to save the dying "Cub" is palpable.  And his seeming asexuality highlights Clift's subversive performance.  Montgomery Clift as Mr. Orange / Cub:  Mann chose Clift because of the actor's work in Red River.  His youth and energy light up as the conflicted double agent.  And the women love him in those chaps (this is why the studio eventually shelved the film, which was never to see the light of day) Jack Palance as Mr. Blonde / Coyote:  Actor Alan Ladd happened to see the dailies of The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge before the studio locked them away.  The star was so impressed by Palance's cool contained rage that he forced Shane director George Stevens to put Palance on the short list for the role of Jack Wilson.  The rest, as they say, is history Denis O'Keefe / Loren Bacall as Nice Guy Eddy / Cow Puncher Bob / Grifter Gurdy:  O'Keefe's star had fallen a bit after poor reviews of Mann's Raw Deal.  Mann liked to see the suave actor portray slick con men (part of his role in T &ndash; Men) so he snuck him into the film despite argument from the studio.  Bacall was obvious due to Brackett's revisions, however Jennifer Jones was considered until Mann saw and disliked her in King Vidor's Duel in the Sun. Dean Martin as Mr. Pink / Skunk:  Martin was originally offered the role of Coyote.  Mann thought his cool domineer would create great contrast between the perception of the character and his violent actions.  Dean Martin's record label was afraid that their star was being derogatively stereotyped&hellip; an Italian in the role of an evil thief, gangster and ear removing murderer (though Frank thought it would be o.k.).  Dino opted to go with the drunken comic relief instead.  The scene during the second act brake where he belts out "The Ballad of the Scavengers of Dry Gorge" to the nervous thieves pined down in the gorge by the Cavalry (eerily similar to a scene in Rio Bravo) is something I wish all could see.  In the time line of the story this is where Coyote removes the young deputy's ear&hellip; off camera and covered in vague dialog.  Jimmy Stewart as Joe Cabot.  As always the elder statesmen Stewart gave his all in a both commanding and haunting performance as the ring leader of the train robbery gang (this would be the beginning of the psychologically conflicted, obsessive characters Stewart would be remembered for: Vertigo and The Naked Spur).  Only Jimmy Stewart could corral these wild wolves.  Though on the set for just a few days this cameo would prove to form a lasting friendship and yield much collaboration between Mann and Stewart. Ralph Meeker as Mr. Brown / Hyena:  Ah crazy Ralph Meeker.  I think if you watch Kiss Me Deadly or The Naked Spur you can see why he would be fantastic spouting off long, near incoherent, hyper macho dialog trying to get approval from the other thieves.  He's a forgotten American treasure (And from MPLS!!! Walter Brennen as Mr. Blue / Grey Wolf:  It's hard to imagine a western with out Walter Brennen playing the old coot that tells the hero they are full of it.  In this film he is taunting poor Dean Martin for his alcohol problems:             Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart):  And you're Skunk.             Skunk (Dean Martin):  AH&hellip; now that ain't even a Wolf, Joe?!             Grey Wolf (Walter Brennen):  Ye don't gits ta be no Wolf cas' ya stink ta' high heaven boy.  (High pitch HEYUCK sound&hellip; repeat).  Meebe if ya lay of that HOOCH ya could be a wolf.  Right now yas just a smelly varmint (continues laughing).             Skunk (Dean Martin):  Ah cram it old timer!  (Skunk shoots at Grey Wolf and misses).             Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart):  Knock it off you two!  Now (stutter) Now where was I&hellip; oh yeah the train. Alfred Ryder as Young Cop who gets his ear cut off (Deputy who gets his ear cut off&hellip; off camera [revealed in illusive dialog]):  Alfred Ryder played the other undercover agent in Anthony Mann's T &ndash; Men.  His character is found out and killed by the gangsters he is trying to infiltrate.  His ability to show both competence as an agent for the government and fear as a mortal in trouble is HAUNTING. Ward Bond as Holdaway (Mr. Orange's Undercover training officer) (Sheriff Holdaway):  Much like Walter Brennen, it's not a great western unless you've got Ward Bond (high school football team mate of John Wayne, famous for his roles in many of Wayne's films such as the Calvary Captain/ Reverend Samuel Johnston Clayton in The Searchers).  Carl Foreman envisioned this part as a Fortinbras like character that the thieves would talk about but would only appear on screen a few times to create suspense.  Sheriff Holdaway leads the posse that traps the bandits in Gomorrah Gorge, which forces Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy to play their final hands.   Hank Worden as Bumbling Train Operator:  Foreman didn't go for the flash back structure of Tarantino's outline.  His story is much more linear, leaving Cub's allegiance a mystery.  He replaces the drawn out training sequence in Reservoir Dogs with the train heist that Tarantino was too cleaver to bother with.  It was played for both laughs and action.  Most of the laughs came from Hank Worden who some of you will remember as Mose Harper in The Searchers ("thank you&hellip; thaaank you kindly"), but more of you will remember as senior drool cup (ancient room service guy) in Twin Peaks ("thank you&hellip; thaaank you kindly").     That's it.  Thanks for reading all of this non-sense.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:44:33 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>theunemployedshortstop</spout:postby><spout:postto>Filmgaming</spout:postto><spout:postdate>7/18/2008 9:44:33 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>The Epic Tale of "The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge."     The Conceit:  Due to a trans-dimensional rift caused by the AWESOMENESS of the Inglorious Bastards screenplay Quentin Tarantino is able to jump into a dimension where the world is perpetually in the early fifties.  The impish auteur (also great collaborator) is eager to see what some of his favorite directors and writers would do with his material.  He gives a vague outline of Reservoir Dogs to Carl Foreman.  Bitter over the HUAC hearings of 1947, Forman takes the idea of the mole cop and turns it into a commentary on witch hunting (like the Crucible set in the American West&amp;hellip; with action and no weeping, whining, or three hour yawn-fest&amp;hellip; just kidding).  Production:  The studio loved the concept and saw Anthony Mann as the director.  His surprising presentation of the morally grey double agents in T &amp;ndash; Men and his success as a visual director of both noir and westerns would yield a fantastic visual motif.  Foreman set the film in an abandoned camp&amp;hellip; rumored to have once been a lush valley, the area is now a barren gorge of salt (Hence Gomorrah Gorge though the studio would want to back off of this title&amp;hellip; hence the title of Guthrie's song).   Mann shot the film in the Colombia River Gorge and the surrounding desert like region of Eastern  Washington.  It was more visually arresting than the Rocky Mountain back drop of The Naked Spur. Rewrites:  Leigh Brackett (script doctor supreme: The Big Sleep, Rio Bravo, The Empire Strikes Back) is hired to tone down the political commentary and add some sex appeal.  Miss Brackett split the role of Nice Guy Eddy (now Cow Puncher Bob) into two roles:  Two siblings competing for their father's approval (much like Duel in the Sun) Cow Puncher Bob, a slick but incompetent rustler, and Grifter Gurdy, modeled after Lauren Bacall's con women / gambler characters from To Have and Have Not and The Big Sleep.  The love triangle between Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy pleased the studio (however they were angered when they saw Anthony Mann's finished product because of the homosexual overtones that Clift brought out in the mentor relationship between Cub and Timber Wolf).  Casting: Gary Cooper as Mr. White/ Timber Wolf:  Cooper's leadership and bravery in taking a role that John Wayne thought was un-American is stellar, comparable only to his work on High Noon.  Cooper's earnest desire to save the dying "Cub" is palpable.  And his seeming asexuality highlights Clift's subversive performance.  Montgomery Clift as Mr. Orange / Cub:  Mann chose Clift because of the actor's work in Red River.  His youth and energy light up as the conflicted double agent.  And the women love him in those chaps (this is why the studio eventually shelved the film, which was never to see the light of day) Jack Palance as Mr. Blonde / Coyote:  Actor Alan Ladd happened to see the dailies of The Wolves of Gomorrah Gorge before the studio locked them away.  The star was so impressed by Palance's cool contained rage that he forced Shane director George Stevens to put Palance on the short list for the role of Jack Wilson.  The rest, as they say, is history Denis O'Keefe / Loren Bacall as Nice Guy Eddy / Cow Puncher Bob / Grifter Gurdy:  O'Keefe's star had fallen a bit after poor reviews of Mann's Raw Deal.  Mann liked to see the suave actor portray slick con men (part of his role in T &amp;ndash; Men) so he snuck him into the film despite argument from the studio.  Bacall was obvious due to Brackett's revisions, however Jennifer Jones was considered until Mann saw and disliked her in King Vidor's Duel in the Sun. Dean Martin as Mr. Pink / Skunk:  Martin was originally offered the role of Coyote.  Mann thought his cool domineer would create great contrast between the perception of the character and his violent actions.  Dean Martin's record label was afraid that their star was being derogatively stereotyped&amp;hellip; an Italian in the role of an evil thief, gangster and ear removing murderer (though Frank thought it would be o.k.).  Dino opted to go with the drunken comic relief instead.  The scene during the second act brake where he belts out "The Ballad of the Scavengers of Dry Gorge" to the nervous thieves pined down in the gorge by the Cavalry (eerily similar to a scene in Rio Bravo) is something I wish all could see.  In the time line of the story this is where Coyote removes the young deputy's ear&amp;hellip; off camera and covered in vague dialog.  Jimmy Stewart as Joe Cabot.  As always the elder statesmen Stewart gave his all in a both commanding and haunting performance as the ring leader of the train robbery gang (this would be the beginning of the psychologically conflicted, obsessive characters Stewart would be remembered for: Vertigo and The Naked Spur).  Only Jimmy Stewart could corral these wild wolves.  Though on the set for just a few days this cameo would prove to form a lasting friendship and yield much collaboration between Mann and Stewart. Ralph Meeker as Mr. Brown / Hyena:  Ah crazy Ralph Meeker.  I think if you watch Kiss Me Deadly or The Naked Spur you can see why he would be fantastic spouting off long, near incoherent, hyper macho dialog trying to get approval from the other thieves.  He's a forgotten American treasure (And from MPLS!!! Walter Brennen as Mr. Blue / Grey Wolf:  It's hard to imagine a western with out Walter Brennen playing the old coot that tells the hero they are full of it.  In this film he is taunting poor Dean Martin for his alcohol problems:             Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart):  And you're Skunk.             Skunk (Dean Martin):  AH&amp;hellip; now that ain't even a Wolf, Joe?!             Grey Wolf (Walter Brennen):  Ye don't gits ta be no Wolf cas' ya stink ta' high heaven boy.  (High pitch HEYUCK sound&amp;hellip; repeat).  Meebe if ya lay of that HOOCH ya could be a wolf.  Right now yas just a smelly varmint (continues laughing).             Skunk (Dean Martin):  Ah cram it old timer!  (Skunk shoots at Grey Wolf and misses).             Joe Cabot (Jimmy Stewart):  Knock it off you two!  Now (stutter) Now where was I&amp;hellip; oh yeah the train. Alfred Ryder as Young Cop who gets his ear cut off (Deputy who gets his ear cut off&amp;hellip; off camera [revealed in illusive dialog]):  Alfred Ryder played the other undercover agent in Anthony Mann's T &amp;ndash; Men.  His character is found out and killed by the gangsters he is trying to infiltrate.  His ability to show both competence as an agent for the government and fear as a mortal in trouble is HAUNTING. Ward Bond as Holdaway (Mr. Orange's Undercover training officer) (Sheriff Holdaway):  Much like Walter Brennen, it's not a great western unless you've got Ward Bond (high school football team mate of John Wayne, famous for his roles in many of Wayne's films such as the Calvary Captain/ Reverend Samuel Johnston Clayton in The Searchers).  Carl Foreman envisioned this part as a Fortinbras like character that the thieves would talk about but would only appear on screen a few times to create suspense.  Sheriff Holdaway leads the posse that traps the bandits in Gomorrah Gorge, which forces Cub, Timber Wolf, and Grifter Gurdy to play their final hands.   Hank Worden as Bumbling Train Operator:  Foreman didn't go for the flash back structure of Tarantino's outline.  His story is much more linear, leaving Cub's allegiance a mystery.  He replaces the drawn out training sequence in Reservoir Dogs with the train heist that Tarantino was too cleaver to bother with.  It was played for both laughs and action.  Most of the laughs came from Hank Worden who some of you will remember as Mose Harper in The Searchers ("thank you&amp;hellip; thaaank you kindly"), but more of you will remember as senior drool cup (ancient room service guy) in Twin Peaks ("thank you&amp;hellip; thaaank you kindly").     That's it.  Thanks for reading all of this non-sense.</spout:body></item>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 5/15/2007 1:45:32 AM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> 1. Once Upon A Time In The West2. The Good, The Bad &amp; The Ugly 3. The Searchers4. Rio Bravo5. The Wild Bunch <br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 05:45:32 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>chesterfilms</spout:postby><spout:postto>chesterfilms Blog</spout:postto><spout:postdate>5/15/2007 1:45:32 AM</spout:postdate><spout:body>1. Once Upon A Time In The West2. The Good, The Bad &amp;amp; The Ugly 3. The Searchers4. Rio Bravo5. The Wild Bunch </spout:body></item>
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<strong>Post By:</strong> <a href='http://www.spout.com/members/5353/default.aspx'>Risselada</a><br/>
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<strong>Post Date:</strong> 11/27/2006 5:50:14 PM<br/>
<strong>Body:</strong> Well, I just watched The Proposition with SkyPilot last night when I was in GR.  Afterwards he decided that he actually would have put Dead Man ahead of it.  It was enjoyable, but I'd hardly say among a top 5 list, unless you haven't seen many westerns.  I actually haven't seen too many myself, but like noir I usually like most of them, so I'm not sure why not. Ok, if I had to make a strict top 5 list it would probably be nearly all Leone films, so I'm going to group them together as number 1 with my favorite, which is The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. 1. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, Once Upon a Time in the West, For A Few Dollars More, A Fistful of Dollars.  (I have yet to see A Fistful of Dynamite) 2. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.  It's been a while since I've seen this, but I've had that poster of the final frame of the movie since college.  That image will always be one of the most iconic images in film to me. 3. Ravenous.  IMDB lists this as a western, but also as horror, comedy, and thriller.  It's as much as one as it is any other.  I love it for that.  And I LOVE the music, which Damon Albarn from Blur and Gorillaz had a hand in. 4. Dead Man. Also unusual.  Definitely a western, but a Jim Jarmusch western.  Also an unusual score. 5. The Outlaw Josey Wales.  Picking a number 5 was tough, although not because I was weighing  Josey Wales with Unforgiven.  I'm not a big fan of that movie.   Here's a couple more I've seen that I'd like to mention. A few John Wayne flicks I've seen.  Stage Coach, Rio Bravo, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. High Noon.  A statement being made in the era of McCarthyism.  Shown as if it were being played out in real time.  Lloyd Bridges is great.  Also Lee Van Cleef's first film appearance. Ride With the Devil.  Less often explored aspects of the Civil War done very well by Ang Lee. And honestly, Back to the Future Part III.  It's a wild ride, and has some references to Leone's man with no name trilogy.<br/>
</div>]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:50:14 GMT</pubDate><spout:postby>Risselada</spout:postby><spout:postto>Top 5</spout:postto><spout:postdate>11/27/2006 5:50:14 PM</spout:postdate><spout:body>Well, I just watched The Proposition with SkyPilot last night when I was in GR.  Afterwards he decided that he actually would have put Dead Man ahead of it.  It was enjoyable, but I'd hardly say among a top 5 list, unless you haven't seen many westerns.  I actually haven't seen too many myself, but like noir I usually like most of them, so I'm not sure why not. Ok, if I had to make a strict top 5 list it would probably be nearly all Leone films, so I'm going to group them together as number 1 with my favorite, which is The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. 1. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, Once Upon a Time in the West, For A Few Dollars More, A Fistful of Dollars.  (I have yet to see A Fistful of Dynamite) 2. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.  It's been a while since I've seen this, but I've had that poster of the final frame of the movie since college.  That image will always be one of the most iconic images in film to me. 3. Ravenous.  IMDB lists this as a western, but also as horror, comedy, and thriller.  It's as much as one as it is any other.  I love it for that.  And I LOVE the music, which Damon Albarn from Blur and Gorillaz had a hand in. 4. Dead Man. Also unusual.  Definitely a western, but a Jim Jarmusch western.  Also an unusual score. 5. The Outlaw Josey Wales.  Picking a number 5 was tough, although not because I was weighing  Josey Wales with Unforgiven.  I'm not a big fan of that movie.   Here's a couple more I've seen that I'd like to mention. A few John Wayne flicks I've seen.  Stage Coach, Rio Bravo, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. High Noon.  A statement being made in the era of McCarthyism.  Shown as if it were being played out in real time.  Lloyd Bridges is great.  Also Lee Van Cleef's first film appearance. Ride With the Devil.  Less often explored aspects of the Civil War done very well by Ang Lee. And honestly, Back to the Future Part III.  It's a wild ride, and has some references to Leone's man with no name trilogy.</spout:body></item>
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