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Year: 2007
Director: James Mangold
Plot: Russell Crowe plays a desperado whose accomplices stage an ambush after he is taken into custody by a determined local sheriff in this remake of the 1957 film starring Glenn Ford and Van Heflin. James Mangold directs a script based on the Elmore Leonard short story and penned by Stuart Beattie, Michael Brandt, and Derek Haas. ~ Jason Buchanan, All Movie Guide
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]]>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:49:47 GMT3:10 to Yuma2007James Mangold<a href="/players/P____15959/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Russell Crowe</a> plays a desperado whose accomplices stage an ambush after he is taken into custody by a determined local sheriff in this remake of the 1957 film starring <a href="/players/P____24236/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Glenn Ford</a> and <a href="/players/P____31516/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Van Heflin</a>. <a href="/players/P___101021/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>James Mangold</a> directs a script based on the <a href="/players/P____99358/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Elmore Leonard</a> short story and penned by Stuart Beattie, Michael Brandt, and Derek Haas. ~ Jason Buchanan, All Movie Guide18Tag Target (>10)3822104http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s289192.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/3_10_to_Yuma/289192/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Community_Recommendations/Re_Collaboration_Best_Films_of_2007/643/37946/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: seely
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Post Date: 12/4/2008 2:46:41 PM
Body: Thanks for reminding me about Michael Clayton--I forgot that was '07. I really enjoyed Clooney's performance, and the movie dealt with ethics in a very deep, real way without making everything obtusely black and white. But... Ocean's 13? Really? I liked the Ocean's series and the Rat Pack/heist flicks they harkened back to, but I thought this to be the weakest of the bunch with a scattered plot and what seemed like endless inside jokes delivered at a pace that left the audience trying to catch up through the entire film, and further obscured any attempts at humor or storyline. Maybe I'm just too slow for it :-) [quote user="SkyPilot"] I agree with a lot of picks from the other people. In no specific order, these are my favorites: 1. Ocean's 13 A heist film with a conscience. 2. Michael Clayton Deceit, courage, human connection, mission. 3. Eastern Promises A frightening gangster film that made London feel like a separate, exotic country. 4. Gone Baby Gone A private detective movie with a conscience. 5. Hot Fuzz Like Leeroy, I liked this one even more than Shaun of the Dead. 6. The Orphanage The closest I've ever come to screaming in the theater. 7. 3:10 to Yuma This really made me soul-search, and the ending leaves me breathless. 8. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Like falling asleep from a flavorful and slow-acting poison. 9. No Country for Old Men Looks like 2007 was Year of the Western. 10. American Gangster Not perfect, but I thought it was intense and affecting. I'd like to include The Fall, This Is England, and Rescue Dawn,but Spout says they were made in 2006. Maybe they were released in the US in 2007, but I'm not sure. Movies that didn't quite make my Top 10: Persepolis, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and There Will Be Blood. The last one in particular is great, but after seeing it 3 times I won't need to see it again for a loooong time. [/quote]
]]>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:46:41 GMTseelyCommunity Recommendations12/4/2008 2:46:41 PMThanks for reminding me about Michael Clayton--I forgot that was '07. I really enjoyed Clooney's performance, and the movie dealt with ethics in a very deep, real way without making everything obtusely black and white. But... Ocean's 13? Really? I liked the Ocean's series and the Rat Pack/heist flicks they harkened back to, but I thought this to be the weakest of the bunch with a scattered plot and what seemed like endless inside jokes delivered at a pace that left the audience trying to catch up through the entire film, and further obscured any attempts at humor or storyline. Maybe I'm just too slow for it :-) [quote user="SkyPilot"] I agree with a lot of picks from the other people. In no specific order, these are my favorites: 1. Ocean's 13 A heist film with a conscience. 2. Michael Clayton Deceit, courage, human connection, mission. 3. Eastern Promises A frightening gangster film that made London feel like a separate, exotic country. 4. Gone Baby Gone A private detective movie with a conscience. 5. Hot Fuzz Like Leeroy, I liked this one even more than Shaun of the Dead. 6. The Orphanage The closest I've ever come to screaming in the theater. 7. 3:10 to Yuma This really made me soul-search, and the ending leaves me breathless. 8. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Like falling asleep from a flavorful and slow-acting poison. 9. No Country for Old Men Looks like 2007 was Year of the Western. 10. American Gangster Not perfect, but I thought it was intense and affecting. I'd like to include The Fall, This Is England, and Rescue Dawn,but Spout says they were made in 2006. Maybe they were released in the US in 2007, but I'm not sure. Movies that didn't quite make my Top 10: Persepolis, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and There Will Be Blood. The last one in particular is great, but after seeing it 3 times I won't need to see it again for a loooong time. [/quote] http://www.spout.com/groups/Community_Recommendations/Re_Collaboration_Best_Films_of_2007/643/37944/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: csprague
Post To: Community Recommendations
Post Date: 12/4/2008 2:20:49 PM
Body: [quote user="SkyPilot"] I agree with a lot of picks from the other people. In no specific order, these are my favorites: 1. Ocean's 13 A heist film with a conscience. 2. Michael Clayton Deceit, courage, human connection, mission. 3. Eastern Promises A frightening gangster film that made London feel like a separate, exotic country. 4. Gone Baby Gone A private detective movie with a conscience. 5. Hot Fuzz Like Leeroy, I liked this one even more than Shaun of the Dead. 6. The Orphanage The closest I've ever come to screaming in the theater. 7. 3:10 to Yuma This really made me soul-search, and the ending leaves me breathless. 8. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Like falling asleep from a flavorful and slow-acting poison. 9. No Country for Old Men Looks like 2007 was Year of the Western. 10. American Gangster Not perfect, but I thought it was intense and affecting. I'd like to include The Fall, This Is England, and Rescue Dawn,but Spout says they were made in 2006. Maybe they were released in the US in 2007, but I'm not sure. Movies that didn't quite make my Top 10: Persepolis, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and There Will Be Blood. The last one in particular is great, but after seeing it 3 times I won't need to see it again for a loooong time. [/quote] There Will Be Blood was great, but I don't really want to see it again if you know what I mean. It's not like a good friday night movie at all, unless you are feeling in a particularly dark mood, and maybe it's a terrible idea then too. I'm not sure what the proper mood or motivation to watch this movie would be. I eventually just bit the bullet and watched it. When it was over, I was tired and felt like a crazy person, but I loved it. So hard to explain. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford is the longest movie title in the world (I would actually really like to know what the longest movie title is). It's so hard to spit it out when people are like "what's good movie you've seen recently?" But, nonetheless, I do spit it out because it was beautiful and interesting and I loved the characters. Skypilot, how on earth did Hot Fuzz beat The Diving Bell and the Butterfly for your top ten? Were you just trying to be diverse in genre? I only say this because I think making a movie about a guy who can only communicate with one eye is incredibly difficult. I expected it to be the most arts, boring piece of crap I have ever seen. Ya know, the sterotypical french new wave kind of stuff that ends with "fin". But it wasn't, it was surprisingly human and colorful and full of life. It fits with something I read recently that "your plight is also your redemption". Good times.
]]>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:20:49 GMTcspragueCommunity Recommendations12/4/2008 2:20:49 PM[quote user="SkyPilot"] I agree with a lot of picks from the other people. In no specific order, these are my favorites: 1. Ocean's 13 A heist film with a conscience. 2. Michael Clayton Deceit, courage, human connection, mission. 3. Eastern Promises A frightening gangster film that made London feel like a separate, exotic country. 4. Gone Baby Gone A private detective movie with a conscience. 5. Hot Fuzz Like Leeroy, I liked this one even more than Shaun of the Dead. 6. The Orphanage The closest I've ever come to screaming in the theater. 7. 3:10 to Yuma This really made me soul-search, and the ending leaves me breathless. 8. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Like falling asleep from a flavorful and slow-acting poison. 9. No Country for Old Men Looks like 2007 was Year of the Western. 10. American Gangster Not perfect, but I thought it was intense and affecting. I'd like to include The Fall, This Is England, and Rescue Dawn,but Spout says they were made in 2006. Maybe they were released in the US in 2007, but I'm not sure. Movies that didn't quite make my Top 10: Persepolis, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and There Will Be Blood. The last one in particular is great, but after seeing it 3 times I won't need to see it again for a loooong time. [/quote] There Will Be Blood was great, but I don't really want to see it again if you know what I mean. It's not like a good friday night movie at all, unless you are feeling in a particularly dark mood, and maybe it's a terrible idea then too. I'm not sure what the proper mood or motivation to watch this movie would be. I eventually just bit the bullet and watched it. When it was over, I was tired and felt like a crazy person, but I loved it. So hard to explain. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford is the longest movie title in the world (I would actually really like to know what the longest movie title is). It's so hard to spit it out when people are like "what's good movie you've seen recently?" But, nonetheless, I do spit it out because it was beautiful and interesting and I loved the characters. Skypilot, how on earth did Hot Fuzz beat The Diving Bell and the Butterfly for your top ten? Were you just trying to be diverse in genre? I only say this because I think making a movie about a guy who can only communicate with one eye is incredibly difficult. I expected it to be the most arts, boring piece of crap I have ever seen. Ya know, the sterotypical french new wave kind of stuff that ends with "fin". But it wasn't, it was surprisingly human and colorful and full of life. It fits with something I read recently that "your plight is also your redemption". Good times. http://www.spout.com/groups/Community_Recommendations/Re_Collaboration_Best_Films_of_2007/643/37929/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: SkyPilot
Post To: Community Recommendations
Post Date: 12/4/2008 12:01:28 PM
Body: I agree with a lot of picks from the other people. In no specific order, these are my favorites: 1. Ocean's 13 A heist film with a conscience. 2. Michael Clayton Deceit, courage, human connection, mission. 3. Eastern Promises A frightening gangster film that made London feel like a separate, exotic country. 4. Gone Baby Gone A private detective movie with a conscience. 5. Hot Fuzz Like Leeroy, I liked this one even more than Shaun of the Dead. 6. The Orphanage The closest I've ever come to screaming in the theater. 7. 3:10 to Yuma This really made me soul-search, and the ending leaves me breathless. 8. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Like falling asleep from a flavorful and slow-acting poison. 9. No Country for Old Men Looks like 2007 was Year of the Western. 10. American Gangster Not perfect, but I thought it was intense and affecting. I'd like to include The Fall, This Is England, and Rescue Dawn,but Spout says they were made in 2006. Maybe they were released in the US in 2007, but I'm not sure. Movies that didn't quite make my Top 10: Persepolis, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and There Will Be Blood. The last one in particular is great, but after seeing it 3 times I won't need to see it again for a loooong time.
]]>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:01:28 GMTSkyPilotCommunity Recommendations12/4/2008 12:01:28 PMI agree with a lot of picks from the other people. In no specific order, these are my favorites: 1. Ocean's 13 A heist film with a conscience. 2. Michael Clayton Deceit, courage, human connection, mission. 3. Eastern Promises A frightening gangster film that made London feel like a separate, exotic country. 4. Gone Baby Gone A private detective movie with a conscience. 5. Hot Fuzz Like Leeroy, I liked this one even more than Shaun of the Dead. 6. The Orphanage The closest I've ever come to screaming in the theater. 7. 3:10 to Yuma This really made me soul-search, and the ending leaves me breathless. 8. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Like falling asleep from a flavorful and slow-acting poison. 9. No Country for Old Men Looks like 2007 was Year of the Western. 10. American Gangster Not perfect, but I thought it was intense and affecting. I'd like to include The Fall, This Is England, and Rescue Dawn,but Spout says they were made in 2006. Maybe they were released in the US in 2007, but I'm not sure. Movies that didn't quite make my Top 10: Persepolis, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, and There Will Be Blood. The last one in particular is great, but after seeing it 3 times I won't need to see it again for a loooong time. http://www.spout.com/groups/Community_Recommendations/Re_Collaboration_Best_Films_of_2007/643/37862/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: rjsprague
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Post Date: 12/2/2008 5:03:10 PM
Body: [quote user="seely"] I think my top pick would have to be 3:10 to Yuma. I don't really like Russell Crowe a whole lot, and I'm a bit indifferent to Christian Bale. However, together with the rest of the cast I couldn't imagine more perfect roles for any of the actors there. Phenomenal casting, stuck true to the original short story and drove the point of the story home without convoluting it under layers of special effects or added action scenes. I saw it in the theatre no less than four times. Last movie I saw more than once in the theatre was one of the LOTR films. [/quote] I haven't seen it yet, but now I MUST! And of course Jim Bell said it was good, so it must be. :)
]]>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:03:10 GMTrjspragueCommunity Recommendations12/2/2008 5:03:10 PM[quote user="seely"] I think my top pick would have to be 3:10 to Yuma. I don't really like Russell Crowe a whole lot, and I'm a bit indifferent to Christian Bale. However, together with the rest of the cast I couldn't imagine more perfect roles for any of the actors there. Phenomenal casting, stuck true to the original short story and drove the point of the story home without convoluting it under layers of special effects or added action scenes. I saw it in the theatre no less than four times. Last movie I saw more than once in the theatre was one of the LOTR films. [/quote] I haven't seen it yet, but now I MUST! And of course Jim Bell said it was good, so it must be. :) http://www.spout.com/groups/Community_Recommendations/Re_Collaboration_Best_Films_of_2007/643/37852/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: seely
Post To: Community Recommendations
Post Date: 12/2/2008 2:18:14 PM
Body: I think my top pick would have to be 3:10 to Yuma. I don't really like Russell Crowe a whole lot, and I'm a bit indifferent to Christian Bale. However, together with the rest of the cast I couldn't imagine more perfect roles for any of the actors there. Phenomenal casting, stuck true to the original short story and drove the point of the story home without convoluting it under layers of special effects or added action scenes. I saw it in the theatre no less than four times. Last movie I saw more than once in the theatre was one of the LOTR films.
]]>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:18:14 GMTseelyCommunity Recommendations12/2/2008 2:18:14 PMI think my top pick would have to be 3:10 to Yuma. I don't really like Russell Crowe a whole lot, and I'm a bit indifferent to Christian Bale. However, together with the rest of the cast I couldn't imagine more perfect roles for any of the actors there. Phenomenal casting, stuck true to the original short story and drove the point of the story home without convoluting it under layers of special effects or added action scenes. I saw it in the theatre no less than four times. Last movie I saw more than once in the theatre was one of the LOTR films. http://www.spout.com/groups/Coming_Soon/New_Movies_10_3/216/35686/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: SkyPilot
Post To: Coming Soon
Post Date: 9/29/2008 1:26:48 PM
Body: The playing cards are shorthand for how good I think these films will be. No sure-thing aces this week, but we've got some face cards... How to Lose Friends and Alienate People has a lot going for it. Director Robert B. Weide's work on Curb Your Enthusiasm has shown he's got the chops for comedy. Plus, the main actor is Simon Pegg, that talented star and co-writer of Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead. It'll be interesting to watch Pegg's chemistry with the likes of Kirsten Dunst, Megan Fox, and Jeff Bridges. Let's be honest, though -- this is just another film about fatuous asses at a fashion magazine. Looks like The Devil Wears Prada: Part Two. Which is fine as far as it goes, but I feel like seeing something a little more substantial this weekend. Appaloosa -- Reviewers are saying it's "just" a good old traditional western. I don't know about you, but a western can be "just" good and still get under my skin. Ed Harris and Viggo Mortensen are tough-as-leather lawmen who protect a town from gangster Jeremy Irons. Also, Harris and Mortensen are two sides of a romantic triangle with Renee Zellweger. Why do Westerns keep getting made? I don't know, and I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. I know part of why I keep watching them: Westerns create an atmosphere where it takes courage to do what's right. To me, that atmosphere seems like a symbol of what life is always like. I need courage to stand up for someone; I need perseverance to get up and go to class. If you're interested in a meditation on what's worth risking your life, I recommend 3:10 to Yuma. Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist -- In this Michael Cera vehicle two lonely teens connect over music. Looks kind of sweet, like the younger sibling of Garden State.Flash of Genius -- Drama based on the life of Robert Kearns, who invented something very boring but very useful: the intermittent windshield wiper. Kearns' invention was embraced by automobile manufacturers, but Kearns himself was discarded. Kearns started a long legal battle that no one expected him to win. It appears Kearns wasn't merely self-serving, but was spurred on by the principle that people should be acknowledged for the work they accomplish. Allah Made Me Funny: Live in Concert is a stand-up comedy show featuring Muslim comedians like Azhar Usman, Preacher Moss, and Mo Amer. Beverly Hills Chihuahua -- Have you seen the clever edit of the scene from Sixth Sense? Religulous -- Bill Maher and director Larry Charles (Borat) team up to humiliate organized religions. SpoutBlog's Karina Longworth takes a look at their dubious interviewing method. This film might be funny in a preaching to the choir kind of way. Who doesn't agree that religious fundamentalism can be dangerous and absurd? Any favorite flicks that satirize religion in way that actually gets people to open their eyes? I thought Talladega Nights was a pretty artful critique of health-and-wealth Christianity. (No, I'm not kidding.)An American Carol -- Airplane! director David Zucker and a Michael Moore lookalike team up in this parody of leftist politics. The trailer for An American Carol makes the film look about as fun as an afternoon at the DMV. LIMITED RELEASE RocknRolla -- Guy Ritchie's third flick is being called a return to form, an equal of Snatch and Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. We know it'll be all style and no substance, so it'll comes down to whether you're a Ritchie fan or not. Rachel Getting Married -- Anne Hathaway gives a great performance in this story about a prodigal daughter's return. Ballast -- A man's suicide makes three people realize they need community. Karina was impressed when she caught it at Sundance.The Pope's Toilet -- (limited release) It's 1988 on the Uruguay/Brazil border. The town of Melo is eagerly anticipating the visit of Pope John Paul II and 50,000 others in his wake. Melo locals such as Bob, a smuggler, are getting entrepreneurial: Bob builds a port-o-potty on his property and charges for its use. Chaos ensues.
]]>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:26:48 GMTSkyPilotComing Soon9/29/2008 1:26:48 PMThe playing cards are shorthand for how good I think these films will be. No sure-thing aces this week, but we've got some face cards... How to Lose Friends and Alienate People has a lot going for it. Director Robert B. Weide's work on Curb Your Enthusiasm has shown he's got the chops for comedy. Plus, the main actor is Simon Pegg, that talented star and co-writer of Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead. It'll be interesting to watch Pegg's chemistry with the likes of Kirsten Dunst, Megan Fox, and Jeff Bridges. Let's be honest, though -- this is just another film about fatuous asses at a fashion magazine. Looks like The Devil Wears Prada: Part Two. Which is fine as far as it goes, but I feel like seeing something a little more substantial this weekend. Appaloosa -- Reviewers are saying it's "just" a good old traditional western. I don't know about you, but a western can be "just" good and still get under my skin. Ed Harris and Viggo Mortensen are tough-as-leather lawmen who protect a town from gangster Jeremy Irons. Also, Harris and Mortensen are two sides of a romantic triangle with Renee Zellweger. Why do Westerns keep getting made? I don't know, and I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. I know part of why I keep watching them: Westerns create an atmosphere where it takes courage to do what's right. To me, that atmosphere seems like a symbol of what life is always like. I need courage to stand up for someone; I need perseverance to get up and go to class. If you're interested in a meditation on what's worth risking your life, I recommend 3:10 to Yuma. Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist -- In this Michael Cera vehicle two lonely teens connect over music. Looks kind of sweet, like the younger sibling of Garden State.Flash of Genius -- Drama based on the life of Robert Kearns, who invented something very boring but very useful: the intermittent windshield wiper. Kearns' invention was embraced by automobile manufacturers, but Kearns himself was discarded. Kearns started a long legal battle that no one expected him to win. It appears Kearns wasn't merely self-serving, but was spurred on by the principle that people should be acknowledged for the work they accomplish. Allah Made Me Funny: Live in Concert is a stand-up comedy show featuring Muslim comedians like Azhar Usman, Preacher Moss, and Mo Amer. Beverly Hills Chihuahua -- Have you seen the clever edit of the scene from Sixth Sense? Religulous -- Bill Maher and director Larry Charles (Borat) team up to humiliate organized religions. SpoutBlog's Karina Longworth takes a look at their dubious interviewing method. This film might be funny in a preaching to the choir kind of way. Who doesn't agree that religious fundamentalism can be dangerous and absurd? Any favorite flicks that satirize religion in way that actually gets people to open their eyes? I thought Talladega Nights was a pretty artful critique of health-and-wealth Christianity. (No, I'm not kidding.)An American Carol -- Airplane! director David Zucker and a Michael Moore lookalike team up in this parody of leftist politics. The trailer for An American Carol makes the film look about as fun as an afternoon at the DMV. LIMITED RELEASE RocknRolla -- Guy Ritchie's third flick is being called a return to form, an equal of Snatch and Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. We know it'll be all style and no substance, so it'll comes down to whether you're a Ritchie fan or not. Rachel Getting Married -- Anne Hathaway gives a great performance in this story about a prodigal daughter's return. Ballast -- A man's suicide makes three people realize they need community. Karina was impressed when she caught it at Sundance.The Pope's Toilet -- (limited release) It's 1988 on the Uruguay/Brazil border. The town of Melo is eagerly anticipating the visit of Pope John Paul II and 50,000 others in his wake. Melo locals such as Bob, a smuggler, are getting entrepreneurial: Bob builds a port-o-potty on his property and charges for its use. Chaos ensues. http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Film_Library/Re_3_10_to_Yuma_Best_adaptation_ever/512/35595/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: SkyPilot
Post To: The Film Library
Post Date: 9/26/2008 1:36:51 PM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="seely"]Thats a good point--now that I think about it, its also a lot less time commitment to view a movie than it is to read a book. I probably spent 6hrs on each LOTR book, but the movies are only 3hrs-ish. Hmm, maybe a good way to screen my reading :-D[/quote] Only 6 hours!! Goodness! I takes me like a couple months! [/quote] No kidding! But 3:10 to Yuma is very, very good. It really got me thinking, "What is worth sacrificing for? What is worth dying for?" And I don't want to give any spoilers away to TheWorkingDead or anyone else, but the "cursed gun" theme is amazing. Anyone here seen the original 3:10 to Yuma with Glenn Ford and Van Heflin?
]]>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:36:51 GMTSkyPilotThe Film Library9/26/2008 1:36:51 PM[quote user="Risselada"] [quote user="seely"]Thats a good point--now that I think about it, its also a lot less time commitment to view a movie than it is to read a book. I probably spent 6hrs on each LOTR book, but the movies are only 3hrs-ish. Hmm, maybe a good way to screen my reading :-D[/quote] Only 6 hours!! Goodness! I takes me like a couple months! [/quote] No kidding! But 3:10 to Yuma is very, very good. It really got me thinking, "What is worth sacrificing for? What is worth dying for?" And I don't want to give any spoilers away to TheWorkingDead or anyone else, but the "cursed gun" theme is amazing. Anyone here seen the original 3:10 to Yuma with Glenn Ford and Van Heflin? http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Film_Library/Re_3_10_to_Yuma_Best_adaptation_ever/512/35349/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: TheWorkingDead
Post To: The Film Library
Post Date: 9/21/2008 4:01:08 PM
Body: [quote user="seely"] I was a little surprised not to see a thread on this here, but I have to say, I think the latest adaptation of 3:10 to Yuma could be one of the best paper-to-film adaptations, ever. Every role seemed flawlessly cast (and I don't even really like Russell Crowe), and the dialogue was delivered beautifully and accurately. Now, granted 3:10 is a short story, so therefore I think it naturally works better for a 2hrs adaptation than say, 400 pages of Lord of the Rings , which I feel were excellent given their constraints--but definately strayed from the original story in more places than one and sometimes lacked what I felt when I read the original books. I'm not sure quite what it was about 3:10, but it just seemed flawless. I felt as though I were re-reading the story and picturing the scenes in my mind, and not sitting in a theatre watching it on a big screen. Brilliant. Anyone care to agree/disagree? Curious to see what others have to say... [/quote] I haven't yet seen 3:10, and I have to admit I wasn't even aware that it was a short story first. But you've really piqued my interest, so I'm going to make a concerted effort to see this one, and because I'm like this, I'll probably hunt down the original story, too. Welcome to the group!
]]>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:01:08 GMTTheWorkingDeadThe Film Library9/21/2008 4:01:08 PM[quote user="seely"] I was a little surprised not to see a thread on this here, but I have to say, I think the latest adaptation of 3:10 to Yuma could be one of the best paper-to-film adaptations, ever. Every role seemed flawlessly cast (and I don't even really like Russell Crowe), and the dialogue was delivered beautifully and accurately. Now, granted 3:10 is a short story, so therefore I think it naturally works better for a 2hrs adaptation than say, 400 pages of Lord of the Rings , which I feel were excellent given their constraints--but definately strayed from the original story in more places than one and sometimes lacked what I felt when I read the original books. I'm not sure quite what it was about 3:10, but it just seemed flawless. I felt as though I were re-reading the story and picturing the scenes in my mind, and not sitting in a theatre watching it on a big screen. Brilliant. Anyone care to agree/disagree? Curious to see what others have to say... [/quote] I haven't yet seen 3:10, and I have to admit I wasn't even aware that it was a short story first. But you've really piqued my interest, so I'm going to make a concerted effort to see this one, and because I'm like this, I'll probably hunt down the original story, too. Welcome to the group! http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Film_Library/3_10_to_Yuma_Best_adaptation_ever/512/35142/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: seely
Post To: The Film Library
Post Date: 9/15/2008 10:42:15 AM
Body: I was a little surprised not to see a thread on this here, but I have to say, I think the latest adaptation of 3:10 to Yuma could be one of the best paper-to-film adaptations, ever. Every role seemed flawlessly cast (and I don't even really like Russell Crowe), and the dialogue was delivered beautifully and accurately. Now, granted 3:10 is a short story, so therefore I think it naturally works better for a 2hrs adaptation than say, 400 pages of Lord of the Rings , which I feel were excellent given their constraints--but definately strayed from the original story in more places than one and sometimes lacked what I felt when I read the original books. I'm not sure quite what it was about 3:10, but it just seemed flawless. I felt as though I were re-reading the story and picturing the scenes in my mind, and not sitting in a theatre watching it on a big screen. Brilliant. Anyone care to agree/disagree? Curious to see what others have to say...
]]>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:42:15 GMTseelyThe Film Library9/15/2008 10:42:15 AMI was a little surprised not to see a thread on this here, but I have to say, I think the latest adaptation of 3:10 to Yuma could be one of the best paper-to-film adaptations, ever. Every role seemed flawlessly cast (and I don't even really like Russell Crowe), and the dialogue was delivered beautifully and accurately. Now, granted 3:10 is a short story, so therefore I think it naturally works better for a 2hrs adaptation than say, 400 pages of Lord of the Rings , which I feel were excellent given their constraints--but definately strayed from the original story in more places than one and sometimes lacked what I felt when I read the original books. I'm not sure quite what it was about 3:10, but it just seemed flawless. I felt as though I were re-reading the story and picturing the scenes in my mind, and not sitting in a theatre watching it on a big screen. Brilliant. Anyone care to agree/disagree? Curious to see what others have to say... http://www.spout.com/blogs/smooth_j/archive/2008/7/8/32282.aspx Post By: Smooth_J
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Post Date: 7/8/2008 12:14:46 PM
Body: The most difficult part for me in actually writing a critique of this movie is figuring out whether or not I actually liked the film. There were surefire moments of brilliance, but there were also long, disturbing stretches where I was tempted to turn the movie off. As mentioned by almost every other review of the film I've read, this movie explores all sorts of depths of depravity and doesn't let up. It seems to have the most fixation upon how almost every sleaze-bag guy that Jeremiah's mother dates is also a closet pedophile. The film also doesn't shy away from the fact that Jeremiah's mother is not only participating in all sorts of debauchery herself, but also knowingly introducing Jeremiah to all of the drugs and alcohol that she consumes on a daily basis. I guess, in a way, this is really the main redeeming quality of the film: it doesn't shy away from anything, especially when it's bizarre and cringe-inducing. I don't think anyone can say that Asia Argento doesn't give an inspired, "tour-de-force" performance, so to speak. She literally becomes this disgusting, wastoid of a human being, and it's a marvel to watch. The scenes in which she begins to convince Jeremiah that his foster parents don't love him are perhaps the highlights of her role; the malice and mischief in her eyes perfectly sum up her function in completely corrupting this poor little kid. Most of the other characters in the film mostly make up bit parts, and I didn't really even take the time to see the names of most of her boyfriends. It's actually pretty unreal seeing Henry Fonda in this movie as Jeremiah's grandfather. He portray's the role effectively but, to be honest, I thought he had better taste than this. It's also pretty weird to see a cameo by Ben Foster as some creepy guy that gives Jeremiah a bath at his grandparents house--I guess maybe you could see that small part as a precursor to his magnificent performance in 3:10 to Yuma. All of the performances are for the most part adequate; even Dylan and Cole Sprouse of The Suite Life of Zack and Cody fame are convincing as Jeremiah, though you can't help but thinking "What sort of parent would let their kid even be in this sort of movie?" You can't really focus on those sort of ethics if you want to effectively view and enjoy a film, but in a film that investigates such turpitude, it's hard not to. Something that this film is also very effective in doing is rousing my interest in the original novel. After viewing something this different and unsettling, one can't help but wonder as to what sort of book would spawn this film, and what sort of book has such a devoted cult following. I researched the book and the film, and found out just how popular the book was in certain circles, and went over the discussions pertaining to "how much the movie left out" and "how much better the book was." In general, any devoted fan of any book that is adapted into a movie typically is unhappy with the finished product and bitches endlessly about how much better the book was. A similar, though significantly less disturbed fanbase may be the most arduous of the Harry Potter fans, who tend to complain no matter how noble the film's attempts are at capturing the essence of the books. A novel similar in subject matter to The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things may be Naked Lunch, which also has a quite prominent cult following that was not all too happy with Cronenberg's valiant attempts to adapt it. Closing out the subject of the book-to-movie adaptations: Books and film are a completely different medium. When the rights to a book are given to a film-maker, the fans of the book just as much as the owners must be aware of this. They must also be aware that the film-makers will express the book creatively onto film, and it is inevitable that certain aspects of the source material will be changed to fit the film-maker's vision. And only in certain instances is this a bad thing. Anyways... Being one of the many viewers of this film that have not read the book, there are several complaints that can be made about the film itself. One is that not enough attempts are made to characterize the young Jeremiah in the beginning, making his descent into madness with his mother not as shocking as it could have been. The kid in beginning seems clean-cut, but it is not really known, since almost right away the mother neglects and he begins to freak out. Also, another discrepancy with the exposition of the film is that it really only displays the bonding of mother and child through a sketchy montage. It's well put together, but not all that effective in what it's trying to show. There are several points of the film that feel this way, as though director Argento almost got it right, but fell miserably short. Some of the surreal imagery of the film is very cool, but once again, not effective; for example, there is a trippy sequence during which the kid is running to a police station. And not only is it trippy, but it is shown from the kid's viewpoint as being trippy. It's interesting, but overall, pretty dumb. The one aspect of that sort of imagery that I enjoyed was the significance of the two red birds. It's a VERY provocative addition to the theme of Jeremiah's loss of innocence and slow plunge into mother-induced madness. In writing this review, I came to realize my true feelings on the film itself: I don't like it, but I don't dislike it. The description of three-stars as given by Spout really describe it perfectly: I'm neutral about it. Which is strange, because it's quite obvious that there's so much to dislike about the film. The best explanation I can think of is that humans are inherently drawn to the most bestial of entertainment, and my subconciously human mind enjoyed seeing a mother giving her son speed pills. But my better nature tells me that this movie is basically just an exercise in degeneracy, and I disliked it immensely. I'm neutral about it.
]]>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:14:46 GMTSmooth_JSmooth_J Blog7/8/2008 12:14:46 PMThe most difficult part for me in actually writing a critique of this movie is figuring out whether or not I actually liked the film. There were surefire moments of brilliance, but there were also long, disturbing stretches where I was tempted to turn the movie off. As mentioned by almost every other review of the film I've read, this movie explores all sorts of depths of depravity and doesn't let up. It seems to have the most fixation upon how almost every sleaze-bag guy that Jeremiah's mother dates is also a closet pedophile. The film also doesn't shy away from the fact that Jeremiah's mother is not only participating in all sorts of debauchery herself, but also knowingly introducing Jeremiah to all of the drugs and alcohol that she consumes on a daily basis. I guess, in a way, this is really the main redeeming quality of the film: it doesn't shy away from anything, especially when it's bizarre and cringe-inducing. I don't think anyone can say that Asia Argento doesn't give an inspired, "tour-de-force" performance, so to speak. She literally becomes this disgusting, wastoid of a human being, and it's a marvel to watch. The scenes in which she begins to convince Jeremiah that his foster parents don't love him are perhaps the highlights of her role; the malice and mischief in her eyes perfectly sum up her function in completely corrupting this poor little kid. Most of the other characters in the film mostly make up bit parts, and I didn't really even take the time to see the names of most of her boyfriends. It's actually pretty unreal seeing Henry Fonda in this movie as Jeremiah's grandfather. He portray's the role effectively but, to be honest, I thought he had better taste than this. It's also pretty weird to see a cameo by Ben Foster as some creepy guy that gives Jeremiah a bath at his grandparents house--I guess maybe you could see that small part as a precursor to his magnificent performance in 3:10 to Yuma. All of the performances are for the most part adequate; even Dylan and Cole Sprouse of The Suite Life of Zack and Cody fame are convincing as Jeremiah, though you can't help but thinking "What sort of parent would let their kid even be in this sort of movie?" You can't really focus on those sort of ethics if you want to effectively view and enjoy a film, but in a film that investigates such turpitude, it's hard not to. Something that this film is also very effective in doing is rousing my interest in the original novel. After viewing something this different and unsettling, one can't help but wonder as to what sort of book would spawn this film, and what sort of book has such a devoted cult following. I researched the book and the film, and found out just how popular the book was in certain circles, and went over the discussions pertaining to "how much the movie left out" and "how much better the book was." In general, any devoted fan of any book that is adapted into a movie typically is unhappy with the finished product and bitches endlessly about how much better the book was. A similar, though significantly less disturbed fanbase may be the most arduous of the Harry Potter fans, who tend to complain no matter how noble the film's attempts are at capturing the essence of the books. A novel similar in subject matter to The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things may be Naked Lunch, which also has a quite prominent cult following that was not all too happy with Cronenberg's valiant attempts to adapt it. Closing out the subject of the book-to-movie adaptations: Books and film are a completely different medium. When the rights to a book are given to a film-maker, the fans of the book just as much as the owners must be aware of this. They must also be aware that the film-makers will express the book creatively onto film, and it is inevitable that certain aspects of the source material will be changed to fit the film-maker's vision. And only in certain instances is this a bad thing. Anyways... Being one of the many viewers of this film that have not read the book, there are several complaints that can be made about the film itself. One is that not enough attempts are made to characterize the young Jeremiah in the beginning, making his descent into madness with his mother not as shocking as it could have been. The kid in beginning seems clean-cut, but it is not really known, since almost right away the mother neglects and he begins to freak out. Also, another discrepancy with the exposition of the film is that it really only displays the bonding of mother and child through a sketchy montage. It's well put together, but not all that effective in what it's trying to show. There are several points of the film that feel this way, as though director Argento almost got it right, but fell miserably short. Some of the surreal imagery of the film is very cool, but once again, not effective; for example, there is a trippy sequence during which the kid is running to a police station. And not only is it trippy, but it is shown from the kid's viewpoint as being trippy. It's interesting, but overall, pretty dumb. The one aspect of that sort of imagery that I enjoyed was the significance of the two red birds. It's a VERY provocative addition to the theme of Jeremiah's loss of innocence and slow plunge into mother-induced madness. In writing this review, I came to realize my true feelings on the film itself: I don't like it, but I don't dislike it. The description of three-stars as given by Spout really describe it perfectly: I'm neutral about it. Which is strange, because it's quite obvious that there's so much to dislike about the film. The best explanation I can think of is that humans are inherently drawn to the most bestial of entertainment, and my subconciously human mind enjoyed seeing a mother giving her son speed pills. But my better nature tells me that this movie is basically just an exercise in degeneracy, and I disliked it immensely. I'm neutral about it. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/remake/MemberTagFilms.aspxremake
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