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Year: 2005
Director: Arin Crumley, Susan Buice
Plot: Arin and Susan both live in New York. Arin works from home with his wedding videography business documenting other people’s love. Susan is a waitress at an all-night trendy diner where she spends her Saturday nights serving chocolate martinis to women on diets wishing she’d get her artistic career in order. Both live lonely lives in one of the most populous cities in the world until they find each other online and begin their alternative courtship. Wanting to avoid a mundane date they decide to only communicate through artistic mediums and have no verbal communication while they work through the start up phase of their relationship. Communicating via note pads, emails and video cameras the question begins to arise, is their relationship just an artistic experiment or will they give into being a couple and become a living breathing “four eyed monster”.
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]]>Sun, 10 May 2009 21:50:47 GMTFour Eyed Monsters2005Arin Crumley, Susan BuiceArin and Susan both live in New York. Arin works from home with his wedding videography business documenting other people’s love. Susan is a waitress at an all-night trendy diner where she spends her Saturday nights serving chocolate martinis to women on diets wishing she’d get her artistic career in order. Both live lonely lives in one of the most populous cities in the world until they find each other online and begin their alternative courtship. Wanting to avoid a mundane date they decide to only communicate through artistic mediums and have no verbal communication while they work through the start up phase of their relationship. Communicating via note pads, emails and video cameras the question begins to arise, is their relationship just an artistic experiment or will they give into being a couple and become a living breathing “four eyed monster”. 274Tag Target (>10)7038764http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/s262319.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Four_Eyed_Monsters/262319/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/ekayani/archive/2008/7/28/33172.aspx Post By: ekayani
Post To: ekayani Blog
Post Date: 7/28/2008 1:45:34 PM
Body: Dear Arin, I was overjoyed when i finally discovered some news from you two in my inbox yesterday. I had given up after months and months of checking my podcast subscrition HOPING. I wanted to state the obvious for Arin which might not be obvious to Arin since Susan was the first lady love ever in his life. It's a little advice on how the woman in your life wants to be treated. I noticed that you tend to go on and on about how you want Susan to be dediated to "YOUR MISSION". Didn't you realize she was? So devoted. The thing is even worker bees need a break. It seems the main stress in this relationship was financial and things just spiraled out of control from there aside from any emerging issues of Susan discovering herself more and wanting quite simply to be treated as an adored female by the man in her life. To be seen as a traitor of some kind when you just need a break and want a bit of social life is coming from a , dare I say it, immature perspective. You are , after all, two separate persons who need to breathe on your own. No matter how much you do with the person you love and are compatible with EVERYONE needs some alone time, quiet time, away time otherwise they stagnate, feel strangled and oppressed by an all consuming "Relationship." It's not healthy. Arin try taking your love out to a romantic dinner sometime, away on a vacation, buying her a new ouftit, making mad a passionate love to her and just giving her some space. Susan is a sexy vibrant woman and needs to be treated as such. If you give her space, she'll be more than happy to be with you. Treat her like a slave and she'll run for the hills.It shows she is healthy. Also, try getting a paid job and not lean on her for everything. A man should have a source of income. That's part of what makes him a healthy individual. There is no shame in that. Fim making is not an easy thing like i need to tell you that. How about teaching? You've got the fame. You've got the cred. Use it to teach and make a living from it too. Thanks for the new episodes. Susan you are hot. Look great in that wig girl!
]]>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:45:34 GMTekayaniekayani Blog7/28/2008 1:45:34 PMDear Arin, I was overjoyed when i finally discovered some news from you two in my inbox yesterday. I had given up after months and months of checking my podcast subscrition HOPING. I wanted to state the obvious for Arin which might not be obvious to Arin since Susan was the first lady love ever in his life. It's a little advice on how the woman in your life wants to be treated. I noticed that you tend to go on and on about how you want Susan to be dediated to "YOUR MISSION". Didn't you realize she was? So devoted. The thing is even worker bees need a break. It seems the main stress in this relationship was financial and things just spiraled out of control from there aside from any emerging issues of Susan discovering herself more and wanting quite simply to be treated as an adored female by the man in her life. To be seen as a traitor of some kind when you just need a break and want a bit of social life is coming from a , dare I say it, immature perspective. You are , after all, two separate persons who need to breathe on your own. No matter how much you do with the person you love and are compatible with EVERYONE needs some alone time, quiet time, away time otherwise they stagnate, feel strangled and oppressed by an all consuming "Relationship." It's not healthy. Arin try taking your love out to a romantic dinner sometime, away on a vacation, buying her a new ouftit, making mad a passionate love to her and just giving her some space. Susan is a sexy vibrant woman and needs to be treated as such. If you give her space, she'll be more than happy to be with you. Treat her like a slave and she'll run for the hills.It shows she is healthy. Also, try getting a paid job and not lean on her for everything. A man should have a source of income. That's part of what makes him a healthy individual. There is no shame in that. Fim making is not an easy thing like i need to tell you that. How about teaching? You've got the fame. You've got the cred. Use it to teach and make a living from it too. Thanks for the new episodes. Susan you are hot. Look great in that wig girl! http://www.spout.com/groups/foureyedmonsters/Susan_Arin_answer_your_questions_June_July_200/338/30764/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: paul
Post To: foureyedmonsters
Post Date: 6/6/2008 4:25:40 PM
Body: UPDATE: Because of a change in availability, Susan & Arin will be taking questions through July and August 2008 This discussion is open to whomever would like to ask Arin and Susan questions about Four Eyed Monsters (if you want to catch up, buy the DVD from Borders Books or watch the video podcasts). Arin and Susan have total discretion over which questions they choose to answer, and will be checking into this discussion frequently thru June and July. By way of a brief introduction (Arin & Susan feel free to make any corrections), Arin Crumley and Susan Buice made the movie Four Eyed Monsters--an autobiographical story about how they fell in love, unlocked each other's creativity and began, well, making Four Eyed Monsters--in 2004. It premiered at the Slamdance Film Festival in 2005 and, although loved by festival audiences, it failed to get traditional distribution. In November 2005, they launched a video podcast on iTunes the same day the video iPod launched (brilliant). Episodes 1-8 are about the tumultuous making the movie and were Internet sensations. Along the way Arin, Susan and an army of supporters (special nod to Brian Chirls) pioneered self-distribution and marketing with grassroots screenings of the movie, selling DVDs and being the first feature film to debut on YouTube (self-indulgent nod to your sponsor, Spout), among a slew of other efforts. Episodes 9-13 of the Four Eyed Monsters video podcast premiered in May 2008. They are a jarringly intimate conclusion to Arin and Susan's relationship and Four Eyed Monsters, a title that no longer represents a movie but--for lack of a better term--an experience. One that, for many, represents a major landmark in the potential of filmmaking in the Digital Age. I'll get things kicked off here with some questions that have been on my mind:1) This may be impossible, but could you try to describe what your lives might look like had you premiered your movie in 2005, sold it for $100,000 to a distributor, and gone back to NY with a fat check. I guess I'm looking for what would be better and what would be worse?2) Susan, in episode 12 you described you and Arin as "the unit," which I think meant your solidarity in making Four Eyed Monsters happen. But on a personal level you wanted to be out of your commitment to Arin. In trying to gain control over your own identity, you say the only thing you had control over was sex. Stripping, seeing other men, possibly even withholding sex from Arin--were your only ways to escape the unit. Why is that?3) Arin, the movie involves a lot of re-creations of real events, but at some point you started whipping out a camera to film actual conversations. When did you decide to do that? And, with the recent episodes, what was it like using "really" real footage--particularly of Susan telling you she's lost feelings for you and wants to be with other men--versus footage based on something real?4) Now that the end is on the horizon for Four Eyed Monsters, will you two still be partners in your next project? Or--to use a music industry term--are we going to see "solo albums" coming out?
]]>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:25:40 GMTpaulfoureyedmonsters6/6/2008 4:25:40 PMUPDATE: Because of a change in availability, Susan & Arin will be taking questions through July and August 2008 This discussion is open to whomever would like to ask Arin and Susan questions about Four Eyed Monsters (if you want to catch up, buy the DVD from Borders Books or watch the video podcasts). Arin and Susan have total discretion over which questions they choose to answer, and will be checking into this discussion frequently thru June and July. By way of a brief introduction (Arin & Susan feel free to make any corrections), Arin Crumley and Susan Buice made the movie Four Eyed Monsters--an autobiographical story about how they fell in love, unlocked each other's creativity and began, well, making Four Eyed Monsters--in 2004. It premiered at the Slamdance Film Festival in 2005 and, although loved by festival audiences, it failed to get traditional distribution. In November 2005, they launched a video podcast on iTunes the same day the video iPod launched (brilliant). Episodes 1-8 are about the tumultuous making the movie and were Internet sensations. Along the way Arin, Susan and an army of supporters (special nod to Brian Chirls) pioneered self-distribution and marketing with grassroots screenings of the movie, selling DVDs and being the first feature film to debut on YouTube (self-indulgent nod to your sponsor, Spout), among a slew of other efforts. Episodes 9-13 of the Four Eyed Monsters video podcast premiered in May 2008. They are a jarringly intimate conclusion to Arin and Susan's relationship and Four Eyed Monsters, a title that no longer represents a movie but--for lack of a better term--an experience. One that, for many, represents a major landmark in the potential of filmmaking in the Digital Age. I'll get things kicked off here with some questions that have been on my mind:1) This may be impossible, but could you try to describe what your lives might look like had you premiered your movie in 2005, sold it for $100,000 to a distributor, and gone back to NY with a fat check. I guess I'm looking for what would be better and what would be worse?2) Susan, in episode 12 you described you and Arin as "the unit," which I think meant your solidarity in making Four Eyed Monsters happen. But on a personal level you wanted to be out of your commitment to Arin. In trying to gain control over your own identity, you say the only thing you had control over was sex. Stripping, seeing other men, possibly even withholding sex from Arin--were your only ways to escape the unit. Why is that?3) Arin, the movie involves a lot of re-creations of real events, but at some point you started whipping out a camera to film actual conversations. When did you decide to do that? And, with the recent episodes, what was it like using "really" real footage--particularly of Susan telling you she's lost feelings for you and wants to be with other men--versus footage based on something real?4) Now that the end is on the horizon for Four Eyed Monsters, will you two still be partners in your next project? Or--to use a music industry term--are we going to see "solo albums" coming out? http://www.spout.com/blogs/deviouslysimple/archive/2008/5/21/29644.aspx Post By: deviouslysimple
Post To: deviouslysimple Blog
Post Date: 5/21/2008 6:44:33 AM
Body: First, the intro to the movies where Arin is describing how he views couples, and i'm assuming how the movie gets its name is really quite brilliant. That slight sickness you get from watching a couple have at eachother is perfectly summed up by his minispeech. It may be the best part of the movie. The whole movie is wonderful. I felt as though I was peeking in at other people's personal life in an intimate way that most movies can't achieve. To be honest I felt like a peeping tom in a neighbor's window and as awkward as I felt I couldn't stop laughing with giddy enthusiasm. Just as the intro describes, you kinda feel like vomitting but you're jealous all the same and even during quarrels I couldn't help but envy the two main (really only) characters. I almost forgot I was watching a movie, a sensation that had escaped me since some time in my early teens. Anyway, delightful.
]]>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:44:33 GMTdeviouslysimpledeviouslysimple Blog5/21/2008 6:44:33 AMFirst, the intro to the movies where Arin is describing how he views couples, and i'm assuming how the movie gets its name is really quite brilliant. That slight sickness you get from watching a couple have at eachother is perfectly summed up by his minispeech. It may be the best part of the movie. The whole movie is wonderful. I felt as though I was peeking in at other people's personal life in an intimate way that most movies can't achieve. To be honest I felt like a peeping tom in a neighbor's window and as awkward as I felt I couldn't stop laughing with giddy enthusiasm. Just as the intro describes, you kinda feel like vomitting but you're jealous all the same and even during quarrels I couldn't help but envy the two main (really only) characters. I almost forgot I was watching a movie, a sensation that had escaped me since some time in my early teens. Anyway, delightful. http://www.spout.com/blogs/cancerproduct138/archive/2008/4/3/26906.aspx Post By: cancerproduct138
Post To: cancerproduct138 Blog
Post Date: 4/3/2008 1:37:15 AM
Body: Arin and Susan: thanks for sharing this movie. I found it quite randomly, but I am a very passionate fan of DIY art in all forms and I was stoked to find an indie film. The cinematography and editing were excellent all throughout your film. I love your use of animation and that's something that usually throws me out of a story. I enjoyed watching Susan's artistic struggle and found both characters very authentic, although I do wonder what a woman would really think who received an email with all that evidence of someone stalking her. a lot of women would trip out big time I bet!I loved the opening montage and I laughed aloud at the "trash and crap" montage. I also laughed when I heard the subject line above! I hope you don't let your vision become compromised by your credit card debt. sorry i signed up for this site too late to get you the buck! thanks again so much for sharing, from over in cascadia....
]]>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:37:15 GMTcancerproduct138cancerproduct138 Blog4/3/2008 1:37:15 AMArin and Susan: thanks for sharing this movie. I found it quite randomly, but I am a very passionate fan of DIY art in all forms and I was stoked to find an indie film. The cinematography and editing were excellent all throughout your film. I love your use of animation and that's something that usually throws me out of a story. I enjoyed watching Susan's artistic struggle and found both characters very authentic, although I do wonder what a woman would really think who received an email with all that evidence of someone stalking her. a lot of women would trip out big time I bet!I loved the opening montage and I laughed aloud at the "trash and crap" montage. I also laughed when I heard the subject line above! I hope you don't let your vision become compromised by your credit card debt. sorry i signed up for this site too late to get you the buck! thanks again so much for sharing, from over in cascadia.... http://www.spout.com/blogs/golden-inky/archive/2008/3/22/26500.aspx Post By: Golden-Inky
Post To: Golden-Inky Blog
Post Date: 3/22/2008 12:27:18 AM
Body: The movie is a provacative exploration of one of our society's lost arts. The Art of Conversation. I notice that people who watch TV have adopted TV-ism info-mercial schematics into their dialogues. The state of the state of conversation in our culture is canned audio frequencies that are bounced back and forth. The art of listening and responding to anothers feelings, and thoughts is put under a microscope and dissected by this film. The artists put upon themselves a rule to express to one another, and reveal to one another who they are by any means besides " talking out loud" I think this film may inspire others to give this platform a try.
]]>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:27:18 GMTGolden-InkyGolden-Inky Blog3/22/2008 12:27:18 AMThe movie is a provacative exploration of one of our society's lost arts. The Art of Conversation. I notice that people who watch TV have adopted TV-ism info-mercial schematics into their dialogues. The state of the state of conversation in our culture is canned audio frequencies that are bounced back and forth. The art of listening and responding to anothers feelings, and thoughts is put under a microscope and dissected by this film. The artists put upon themselves a rule to express to one another, and reveal to one another who they are by any means besides " talking out loud" I think this film may inspire others to give this platform a try. http://www.spout.com/blogs/dmm/archive/2008/3/16/26287.aspx Post By: dmm
Post To: dmm Blog
Post Date: 3/16/2008 7:45:33 PM
Body: Good going! Iiked the way u are trying to understand the dynamic of your relationship on the different levels your are both in...Keep it up!!!
]]>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:45:33 GMTdmmdmm Blog3/16/2008 7:45:33 PMGood going! Iiked the way u are trying to understand the dynamic of your relationship on the different levels your are both in...Keep it up!!! http://www.spout.com/blogs/weezilgirl/archive/2008/3/16/26270.aspx Post By: weezilgirl
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Post Date: 3/16/2008 11:50:53 AM
Body: I liked it.....
]]>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:50:53 GMTweezilgirlweezilgirl Blog3/16/2008 11:50:53 AMI liked it..... http://www.spout.com/blogs/zach-tireswing/archive/2008/3/16/26263.aspx Post By: zach-tireswing
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Post Date: 3/16/2008 2:19:59 AM
Body: I've never seen such a movie that makes one look inside themselves, while looking also at those that surround them. It's a totally different perspective on love, and relationships in general. Love through the expression of art is something that completely epitomizes today's nation, the art isn't always drawing, film making, or music. Art consists of all aspects of life, politics can be conisdered an art, love-making an masterpiece...
]]>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:19:59 GMTzach-tireswingzach-tireswing Blog3/16/2008 2:19:59 AMI've never seen such a movie that makes one look inside themselves, while looking also at those that surround them. It's a totally different perspective on love, and relationships in general. Love through the expression of art is something that completely epitomizes today's nation, the art isn't always drawing, film making, or music. Art consists of all aspects of life, politics can be conisdered an art, love-making an masterpiece... http://www.spout.com/blogs/texasgentleman/archive/2008/3/14/26240.aspx Post By: texasgentleman
Post To: texasgentleman Blog
Post Date: 3/14/2008 11:45:47 PM
Body: Interesting but I'm curious as to how it cost over $100,000 to make this. Itemized break down please.
]]>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:45:47 GMTtexasgentlemantexasgentleman Blog3/14/2008 11:45:47 PMInteresting but I'm curious as to how it cost over $100,000 to make this. Itemized break down please. http://www.spout.com/blogs/karina/archive/2008/1/22/24187.aspx Post By: Karina
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Post Date: 1/22/2008 1:00:26 AM
Body: When I first wrote about A Complete History of My Sexual Failures, based solely on the film’s Sundance catalog synopsis, I pegged it as “like Sherman???s March, but British, and 1/3 as long, and seemingly not at all concerned with vague parallels to 19th century history!” Having seen the film with an extremely enthusiastic press corps, I can confirm that Chris Waitt’s debut feature *is* a little like Sherman’s March, but the ancestral lineage of this undeniable crowd-pleaser is more complicated than I could have guessed. At its best, this heavily constructed slice of auto-videography is a lot like a Nick Broomfield remake of Four Eyed Monsters, except with a budget for car commercial cast-off source cues and an extremely problematic relationship with the kind of fearless personal honesty that Arin Crumley and Susan Buice have turned into a brand. The hapless 30-something director, with his ever-present stubble, saggy ripped jeans and dishwater moptop, is a dead ringer for Kurt Cobain circa 1994 (I would have pegged this as “retro” affectation, if every other character on screen hadn’t made a derisive comment about the director/star’s lack of grooming acumen and style). Speaking directly to the camera from a home office resembling a teenager’s bedroom, Waitt explains that, as his girlfriend of three weeks has just dumped him, he’s decided to track down as many former flames as possible and interview each, in order to figure out what he’s been doing wrong and hopefully figure out how to find true love/avoid future dumpings. (more…) Originally posted on:SpoutBlog » karina
]]>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:00:26 GMTKarinaKarina on SpoutBlog1/22/2008 1:00:26 AM When I first wrote about A Complete History of My Sexual Failures, based solely on the film’s Sundance catalog synopsis, I pegged it as “like Sherman???s March, but British, and 1/3 as long, and seemingly not at all concerned with vague parallels to 19th century history!” Having seen the film with an extremely enthusiastic press corps, I can confirm that Chris Waitt’s debut feature *is* a little like Sherman’s March, but the ancestral lineage of this undeniable crowd-pleaser is more complicated than I could have guessed. At its best, this heavily constructed slice of auto-videography is a lot like a Nick Broomfield remake of Four Eyed Monsters, except with a budget for car commercial cast-off source cues and an extremely problematic relationship with the kind of fearless personal honesty that Arin Crumley and Susan Buice have turned into a brand. The hapless 30-something director, with his ever-present stubble, saggy ripped jeans and dishwater moptop, is a dead ringer for Kurt Cobain circa 1994 (I would have pegged this as “retro” affectation, if every other character on screen hadn’t made a derisive comment about the director/star’s lack of grooming acumen and style). Speaking directly to the camera from a home office resembling a teenager’s bedroom, Waitt explains that, as his girlfriend of three weeks has just dumped him, he’s decided to track down as many former flames as possible and interview each, in order to figure out what he’s been doing wrong and hopefully figure out how to find true love/avoid future dumpings. (more…) Originally posted on:SpoutBlog » karina http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/love/MemberTagFilms.aspxlove
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