list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around O.C. and Stiggs on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/O_C_and_Stiggs/25105/default.aspx Title: O.C. and Stiggs
Year: 1985
Director: Robert Altman
Plot: In what can only be described as a dramatic change of pace, Robert Altman directed this raunchy teen comedy based on the antics of two characters featured in a series of stories published in the National Lampoon. Oliver Cromwell Ogilvie (Daniel Jenkins), aka O.C., and his buddy Mark Stiggs (Neil Barry), are a pair of misfit teenagers whose greatest joy in life is making those around them miserable. O.C.'s ancient grandfather (Ray Walston) has just had his insurance cancelled, and when he discovers that suburbanite salesman Randall Schwabb (Paul Dooley) is responsible, O.C. and Stiggs swing into a summer-long campaign to get revenge on Schwabb and his family. While it received some of the most brutally negative reviews of Altman's career, O.C. and Stiggs is worth a quick look for its cast, which includes fellow outcast auteurs Dennis Hopper and Melvin Van Peebles, comics Louis Nye and Jane Curtain, the one-time glamour girl of the Clifford Irving scandal Nina Van Pallandt, and Thomas Hal Phillips, reprising his role as Hal Phillip Walker from Nashville. World music superstars King Sunny Ade and his African Beats appear and provide the musical score. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide
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]]>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:09:42 GMTO.C. and Stiggs1985Robert AltmanIn what can only be described as a dramatic change of pace, <a href="/players/P____79456/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Robert Altman</a> directed this raunchy teen comedy based on the antics of two characters featured in a series of stories published in the National Lampoon. Oliver Cromwell Ogilvie (Daniel Jenkins), aka O.C., and his buddy Mark Stiggs (<a href="/players/P_____4269/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Neil Barry</a>), are a pair of misfit teenagers whose greatest joy in life is making those around them miserable. O.C.'s ancient grandfather (<a href="/players/P____74480/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ray Walston</a>) has just had his insurance cancelled, and when he discovers that suburbanite salesman Randall Schwabb (<a href="/players/P____19689/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Paul Dooley</a>) is responsible, O.C. and Stiggs swing into a summer-long campaign to get revenge on Schwabb and his family. While it received some of the most brutally negative reviews of Altman's career, O.C. and Stiggs is worth a quick look for its cast, which includes fellow outcast auteurs <a href="/players/P____94825/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Dennis Hopper</a> and <a href="/players/P____72764/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Melvin Van Peebles</a>, comics <a href="/players/P____53232/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Louis Nye</a> and Jane Curtain, the one-time glamour girl of the Clifford Irving scandal <a href="/players/P____72904/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Nina Van Pallandt</a>, and Thomas Hal Phillips, reprising his role as Hal Phillip Walker from <a href=/films/24112/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Nashville</a>. World music superstars King Sunny Ade and his African Beats appear and provide the musical score. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide1Slightly Tagged (1-5)121http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t67904a8pk9.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/O_C_and_Stiggs/25105/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/thomasjeffersongeronimo/archive/2008/10/29/36752.aspx Post By: ThomasJeffersonGeronimo
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Body: I haven't watched OC & Stiggs in a while, and discovered it accidentally in the first place. But as a fledging Altmaniac, seeing the hate this one gets everywhere I kind of feel a need to defend it. It's meanly funny at times, and sometimes totally lame. While you can often accuse Altman, even in his better works, of condescension to his subjects and audience, I think OC & Stiggs is more mature than it's credited for. Whether Altman was going for it or not, the film captures the futile (if sometimes actually righteous) anger of teens, the sad bonds of outsider friendship and pending adulthood, and the hyprocrises and prejudices or the "grown-up" world. The only film I can think of on a similar wavelength is Duck! The Carbine High Massacre (1999), a basically homemade "spoof" of the Columbine Shootings (with Skinemax regular Misty Mundae) which is somehow actually funny and poignant. OC & Stiggs is no classic, but, accidental though it may be, it has surprising humor and poignance, if you're open-minded and had an odd time of high school. It is still probably only of interest to hardcore Altmaniacs; the viewer who wanders in expecting wild teen dick & titty joke hijinx will be disapoointed.
]]>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:09:42 GMTThomasJeffersonGeronimoThomasJeffersonGeronimo Blog10/29/2008 6:09:42 AMI haven't watched OC &amp; Stiggs in a while, and discovered it accidentally in the first place. But as a fledging Altmaniac, seeing the hate this one gets everywhere I kind of feel a need to defend it. It's meanly funny at times, and sometimes totally lame. While you can often accuse Altman, even in his better works, of condescension to his subjects and audience, I think OC &amp; Stiggs is more mature than it's credited for. Whether Altman was going for it or not, the film captures the futile (if sometimes actually righteous) anger of teens, the sad bonds of outsider friendship and pending adulthood, and the hyprocrises and prejudices or the "grown-up" world. The only film I can think of on a similar wavelength is Duck! The Carbine High Massacre (1999), a basically homemade "spoof" of the Columbine Shootings (with Skinemax regular Misty Mundae) which is somehow actually funny and poignant. OC &amp; Stiggs is no classic, but, accidental though it may be, it has surprising humor and poignance, if you're open-minded and had an odd time of high school. It is still probably only of interest to hardcore Altmaniacs; the viewer who wanders in expecting wild teen dick &amp; titty joke hijinx will be disapoointed. http://www.spout.com/blogs/cinemarian/archive/2008/5/12/28749.aspx Post By: CinemaRian
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Post Date: 5/12/2008 10:21:49 PM
Body: O.C. and Stiggs is a movie about two people so pathetic that they cannot even succeed at being annoying. The picture is considered by just about everyone to be one of the worst films by Robert Altman, if not the worst. It was so bad that the studio didn't even release until two years after it was completed. It is so boring that I dare anyone to sit through it without financial compensation. The two title characters are so similar and interchangeable that it's difficult to tell them apart. Oliver Cromwell (Daniel Jenkens) and Mark Stiggs (Neil Barry) are two teenagers who just want to have fun and get laid. There definition of fun (other than sex, of course) is to play practical jokes and insult people. They are not unlike Hawkeye and Trapper John from M*A*S*H, except for the fact that the characters in that film were adults acting like teenagers, instead of teenagers acting like cartoons characters (that, and Donald Sutherland and Elliot Gould are actually talented). Stiggs and O.C.'s pranks, like the characters themselves, are not only unfunny, but uninteresting. We are supposed to sympathize with the protagonists because they mock and unfair and cruel world (a standard teenage vision of life) but their victims are so stereotyped that it's impossible to feel any antipathy towards them. This results in scene after scene of boring people making fun of other boring people in a boring way. In the DVD documentary, Altman claims that he intended the movie as a satire, because he hated the teen sex comedy genre, and all movie suggests that he only made the film to try establish a reputation as being director. I don't know if either statement is true, but the movie totally fails as satire, and also fails as a sex comedy (or any kind of comedy for that matter). Writing this review, I had difficulty in expressing the absolute brick-wall like experience the movie is. It's the kind of film that is more interesting to talk about than to watch. But think of it this way- it kind of says something when you can say that Fast Times at Ridgemont High is artistically superior to a film in the same genre by Robert Altman. O.C. and Stiggs (1985)
]]>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:21:49 GMTCinemaRianCinemaRian Blog5/12/2008 10:21:49 PMO.C. and Stiggs is a movie about two people so pathetic that they cannot even succeed at being annoying. The picture is considered by just about everyone to be one of the worst films by Robert Altman, if not the worst. It was so bad that the studio didn't even release until two years after it was completed. It is so boring that I dare anyone to sit through it without financial compensation. The two title characters are so similar and interchangeable that it's difficult to tell them apart. Oliver Cromwell (Daniel Jenkens) and Mark Stiggs (Neil Barry) are two teenagers who just want to have fun and get laid. There definition of fun (other than sex, of course) is to play practical jokes and insult people. They are not unlike Hawkeye and Trapper John from M*A*S*H, except for the fact that the characters in that film were adults acting like teenagers, instead of teenagers acting like cartoons characters (that, and Donald Sutherland and Elliot Gould are actually talented). Stiggs and O.C.'s pranks, like the characters themselves, are not only unfunny, but uninteresting. We are supposed to sympathize with the protagonists because they mock and unfair and cruel world (a standard teenage vision of life) but their victims are so stereotyped that it's impossible to feel any antipathy towards them. This results in scene after scene of boring people making fun of other boring people in a boring way. In the DVD documentary, Altman claims that he intended the movie as a satire, because he hated the teen sex comedy genre, and all movie suggests that he only made the film to try establish a reputation as being director. I don't know if either statement is true, but the movie totally fails as satire, and also fails as a sex comedy (or any kind of comedy for that matter). Writing this review, I had difficulty in expressing the absolute brick-wall like experience the movie is. It's the kind of film that is more interesting to talk about than to watch. But think of it this way- it kind of says something when you can say that Fast Times at Ridgemont High is artistically superior to a film in the same genre by Robert Altman. O.C. and Stiggs (1985) http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/family/MemberTagFilms.aspxfamily
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