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Year: 2006
Director: Ron Howard
Plot: Dan Brown's controversial best-selling novel about a powerful secret that's been kept under wraps for thousands of years comes to the screen in this suspense thriller from director Ron Howard. The stately silence of Paris' Louvre museum is broken when one of the gallery's leading curators is found dead on the grounds, with strange symbols carved into his body and left around the spot where he died. Hoping to learn the significance of the symbols, police bring in Sophie Neveu (Audrey Tautou), a gifted cryptographer who is also the victim's granddaughter. Needing help, Sophie calls on Robert Langdon (Tom Hanks), a leading symbologist from the United States. As Sophie and Robert dig deeper into the case, they discover the victim's involvement in the Priory of Sion, a secret society whose members have been privy to forbidden knowledge dating back to the birth of Christianity. In their search, Sophie and Robert happen upon evidence that could lead to the final resting place of the Holy Grail, while members of the priory and an underground Catholic society known as Opus Dei give chase, determined to prevent them from sharing their greatest secrets with the world. Also starring Ian McKellen, Jean Reno, and Alfred Molina, The Da Vinci Code was shot on location in France and the United Kingdom; the Louvre allowed the producers to film at the famous museum, but scenes taking place at Westminster Abbey had to filmed elsewhere when church officials declined permission. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide
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]]>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:43:56 GMTThe Da Vinci Code2006Ron HowardDan Brown's controversial best-selling novel about a powerful secret that's been kept under wraps for thousands of years comes to the screen in this suspense thriller from director <a href="/players/P____94983/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ron Howard</a>. The stately silence of Paris' Louvre museum is broken when one of the gallery's leading curators is found dead on the grounds, with strange symbols carved into his body and left around the spot where he died. Hoping to learn the significance of the symbols, police bring in Sophie Neveu (<a href="/players/P___267962/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Audrey Tautou</a>), a gifted cryptographer who is also the victim's granddaughter. Needing help, Sophie calls on Robert Langdon (<a href="/players/P____93341/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Tom Hanks</a>), a leading symbologist from the United States. As Sophie and Robert dig deeper into the case, they discover the victim's involvement in the Priory of Sion, a secret society whose members have been privy to forbidden knowledge dating back to the birth of Christianity. In their search, Sophie and Robert happen upon evidence that could lead to the final resting place of the Holy Grail, while members of the priory and an underground Catholic society known as Opus Dei give chase, determined to prevent them from sharing their greatest secrets with the world. Also starring <a href="/players/P____47684/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Ian McKellen</a>, <a href="/players/P____59644/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Jean Reno</a>, and <a href="/players/P____49914/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Alfred Molina</a>, The Da Vinci Code was shot on location in France and the United Kingdom; the Louvre allowed the producers to film at the famous museum, but scenes taking place at Westminster Abbey had to filmed elsewhere when church officials declined permission. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide35Tag Target (>10)3912102http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t90008jeqsp.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/The_Da_Vinci_Code/247763/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/the_mow/archive/2009/5/7/42189.aspx Post By: The_MOW
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Body: Based on one of the most popular novels out now, the story follows "Robert Langdon" (Tom Hanks) and "Sophie Neveu" as they search for the most sought after relic in all mankind -- the Holy Grail. Together, they follow cryptic clues that sends them around the Eastern Hemisphere in search of the relic. But, as they search, there are those who want them stopped at all cost. And they must watch their backs, or their search will end -- as well as their lives. First of all, let me say that I have not read the novel. And after watching the movie a couple of times, I am less interested in reading the book than I was before seeing the film. First of all, the only thing that will keep you interested is the clues that are presented. They are quite interesting in fact. Another thing that is unique is the special effects used to focus on the clue (clues are highlighted in some scenes). On the other hand, the biggest problems with the movie is pace as well as acting. The movie is frequently lagging in my opinion. As for the acting, nobody, not even the usually real good Hanks, is good. And to make things worse, Hanks was the wrong person for this role and had an inconsistent performance, as he performed strong in some scenes, yet had a weak performance in others. The supporting cast for the most part were quite weak. They did nothing more than weakly advance the storyline. Another drawback is that the movie can be hard to follow if you aren't paying close attention. If you turn your head at just the wrong moment, you will miss a major twist or clue that is important to the plot. I also noticed that, in my opinion, the actors were sometimes hard to hear at times. I do not have a hearing problem, but sometimes I had to strain to hear what was being said in English. Speaking of languages, I strongly suggest that you keep your eye on the screen when there is a high chance that a foriegn tongue will be spoken, as the English translation will be shown with subtitles on the screen. Another nice part of this movie is that, for the most part, was shot on location at places depicted in the book. This would help with the feel of the book for those who have read it. Ron Howard did a pretty good job at mixing special effects, beautiful location shoots and a twist-filled story to make it watchable. I would say watch it at least twice to make sure you didn't miss anything. This movie isn't for everybody however. If you are not into lots of special effects, or a mystery story with a new twist every other scene, then this one is not for you. I would say that this might be a good second choice to rent if your first choice is not available.
]]>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:43:56 GMTThe_MOWThe_MOW Blog5/7/2009 11:43:56 PMBased on one of the most popular novels out now, the story follows "Robert Langdon" (Tom Hanks) and "Sophie Neveu" as they search for the most sought after relic in all mankind -- the Holy Grail. Together, they follow cryptic clues that sends them around the Eastern Hemisphere in search of the relic. But, as they search, there are those who want them stopped at all cost. And they must watch their backs, or their search will end -- as well as their lives. First of all, let me say that I have not read the novel. And after watching the movie a couple of times, I am less interested in reading the book than I was before seeing the film. First of all, the only thing that will keep you interested is the clues that are presented. They are quite interesting in fact. Another thing that is unique is the special effects used to focus on the clue (clues are highlighted in some scenes). On the other hand, the biggest problems with the movie is pace as well as acting. The movie is frequently lagging in my opinion. As for the acting, nobody, not even the usually real good Hanks, is good. And to make things worse, Hanks was the wrong person for this role and had an inconsistent performance, as he performed strong in some scenes, yet had a weak performance in others. The supporting cast for the most part were quite weak. They did nothing more than weakly advance the storyline. Another drawback is that the movie can be hard to follow if you aren't paying close attention. If you turn your head at just the wrong moment, you will miss a major twist or clue that is important to the plot. I also noticed that, in my opinion, the actors were sometimes hard to hear at times. I do not have a hearing problem, but sometimes I had to strain to hear what was being said in English. Speaking of languages, I strongly suggest that you keep your eye on the screen when there is a high chance that a foriegn tongue will be spoken, as the English translation will be shown with subtitles on the screen. Another nice part of this movie is that, for the most part, was shot on location at places depicted in the book. This would help with the feel of the book for those who have read it. Ron Howard did a pretty good job at mixing special effects, beautiful location shoots and a twist-filled story to make it watchable. I would say watch it at least twice to make sure you didn't miss anything. This movie isn't for everybody however. If you are not into lots of special effects, or a mystery story with a new twist every other scene, then this one is not for you. I would say that this might be a good second choice to rent if your first choice is not available. http://www.spout.com/blogs/lmstanley/archive/2008/12/3/37882.aspx Post By: lmstanley
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Body: I know that this movie was not well received by movie critics, but I found the film to be fairly entertaining over all. I think that it was a captive recreation of the book. In fact, I was pleased with how well it kept to the book. However, the book is so entertaining and moves with such speed that I think the movie had a hard time capturing that same combination. It's not as great as the book, but it's a good movie night film.
]]>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:28:11 GMTlmstanleylmstanley Blog12/3/2008 10:28:11 AMI know that this movie was not well received by movie critics, but I found the film to be fairly entertaining over all. I think that it was a captive recreation of the book. In fact, I was pleased with how well it kept to the book. However, the book is so entertaining and moves with such speed that I think the movie had a hard time capturing that same combination. It's not as great as the book, but it's a good movie night film. http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_August_11_The_Secret_Society/625/34016/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
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Body: Well, my persistent fear of fraternities throughout college started after seeing the amusingly bad The Skulls in which a Yale fraternitiy is cover for a secret group that can pretty much do whatever they want. The Da Vinci Code deals with all those various secret groups like the Prior of Scion and the Knights Templar. I just remember Tom Hanks and his creepy semi-mullet that made him look like a child molester. Tomb Raider mentioned the Illuminati but never really explained too much about it. More mainstream are of course is Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix which probably doesn't need any explanation; Batman Begins had the League of Shadows which again probably needs to explaining; Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events had that group that the children's parents belonged to and were trying to find out about through the movie; The Mummy which had that secret group of nomads that were protecting/guarding the pyramid from crazy morons like Brendan Fraser; and lastly Star Wars which in the newer trilogy introduced the Sith and that whole secret anti-Jedi group. My favorite films with mention of secret socieites are: Eyes Wide Shut which was already mentioned (when Tom Cruise's character gets called out during the ritual and is asked to strip gave me the willies when I first saw it); The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen which I ended up hating because it was nothing like the graphic novels which are so incredible; and Cruel Intentions. What you ask? Cruel Intentions? Well, the scene in which Sarah Michelle Gellar's character convinces the naive Selma Blair that being a bisexual slut means you are in a "secret society" is just plain hilarious. Other notable mentions are The Beach which was a group of hippie potheads inhabiting an isolated island off of Thailand and starting their own secret society, going to extreme measures to make sure it stays a secret and The Stepford Wives (remake - I didn't see the original) which was horrible but had it's moment of hilarity when the men of the gated community are all together at their secret clubhouse being complete nerds and fighting robots.
]]>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:20:00 GMTmercurialWeekly Theme8/14/2008 5:20:00 PMWell, my persistent fear of fraternities throughout college started after seeing the amusingly bad The Skulls in which a Yale fraternitiy is cover for a secret group that can pretty much do whatever they want. The Da Vinci Code deals with all those various secret groups like the Prior of Scion and the Knights Templar. I just remember Tom Hanks and his creepy semi-mullet that made him look like a child molester. Tomb Raider mentioned the Illuminati but never really explained too much about it. More mainstream are of course is Harry Potter and the Order of the Pheonix which probably doesn't need any explanation; Batman Begins had the League of Shadows which again probably needs to explaining; Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events had that group that the children's parents belonged to and were trying to find out about through the movie; The Mummy which had that secret group of nomads that were protecting/guarding the pyramid from crazy morons like Brendan Fraser; and lastly Star Wars which in the newer trilogy introduced the Sith and that whole secret anti-Jedi group. My favorite films with mention of secret socieites are: Eyes Wide Shut which was already mentioned (when Tom Cruise's character gets called out during the ritual and is asked to strip gave me the willies when I first saw it); The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen which I ended up hating because it was nothing like the graphic novels which are so incredible; and Cruel Intentions. What you ask? Cruel Intentions? Well, the scene in which Sarah Michelle Gellar's character convinces the naive Selma Blair that being a bisexual slut means you are in a "secret society" is just plain hilarious. Other notable mentions are The Beach which was a group of hippie potheads inhabiting an isolated island off of Thailand and starting their own secret society, going to extreme measures to make sure it stays a secret and The Stepford Wives (remake - I didn't see the original) which was horrible but had it's moment of hilarity when the men of the gated community are all together at their secret clubhouse being complete nerds and fighting robots. http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/6/19/31428.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Body: This week we have two big-time offenders: Mike Myers’ The Love Guru, which has brought concern from Hindus, because the comedy seems to be making fun of the Hindu religion; and Ron Howard’s Angels & Demons, the “sequel” to The Da Vinci Code, adapted from Dan Brown’s bestseller. Earlier this week, the Vatican banned the latter production from all Catholic churches in Rome. The following statement from Father Marco Fibbi, spokesman for the diocese of Rome, was a favorite quote from the story: “Usually we read the script but in this case it wasn’t necessary. Just the name Dan Brown was enough.” Of course, these days, religious organizations taking offense to a movie seems so commonplace that news like this is hardly even considered bad buzz. Neither The Love Guru nor Angels & Demons will be too aversely affected by the protests or boycotts. Both films will merely be added to the following list of major offenders (in alphabetical order so as not to offend anyone who thinks one is more offensive than another), as almost a genre cataloging than an inventory of condemned. Brokeback Mountain - Because of its promotion of “the homosexual lifestyle,” many right-wing Christian groups protested Ang Lee’s film. Most famously, it was pulled last-minute from a multiplex owned by Mormon businessman and Utah Jazz owner Larry H. Miller, though his motivation was not necessarily claimed to be religion-based. Despite there being hundreds of gay films throughout the years, because of its popularity, this one was the worst offender. The Da Vinci Code - I already mentioned this above and in a recent post on movies that overcame bad buzz, so I’ll make it short: banned, boycotted and protested throughout the world due to its blasphemous (and fictional) allegations that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had a child together. The Devils - Many of the following films were banned in Italy, but with Ken Russell’s blasphemous adaptation of Aldous Huxley’s “The Devils of Loudon,” there was also threat that stars Oliver Reed and Vanessa Redgrave would be arrested if they entered the country. The most offensive scene, labeled “the rape of Christ,” depicted a mock exorcism involving fully nude nuns masturbating with a large crucifix. The scene was removed prior to the film’s release, but there were plenty of other controversial sequences that led to protest. A very low-quality DVD of the film was released a few years ago with the “rape of Christ” scene put back in. Dogma - I understand how comedy can be seen as offensive, especially in the case of stereotypical caricatures like the one in The Love Guru. But Kevin Smith’s religious satire is so silly and all over the place that I can’t imagine that viewers would take its contents seriously. Yet enough protests required the film to be disowned by Miramax/Disney and then eventually be released (courtesy of Lionsgate) with a disclaimer stating that it is merely “a work of comedic fantasy.” Hail Mary - Jean-Luc Godard’s modern retelling of the Nativity was criticized by none other than Pope John Paul II, himself. He was quoted as saying that it “deeply wounds the religious sentiments of believers.” But even better was the response from another man who took offense to the film and decided to throw a shaving cream pie in Godard’s face at the 1985 Cannes Film Festival. Also this is probably one of the rare circumstances in which the filmmaker is the one trying to prevent Italian distribution and is actually unable to do so. The Last Temptation of Christ - Like Dogma, Martin Scorsese’s film came with a disclaimer that noted it is not based on the gospels and is a work of fiction. But like the case against The Da Vinci Code, the idea or depiction of Jesus and Mary Magdalene getting it on is never forgivable. Life of Brian - I can’t believe that anyone actually took offense to the joke about the three wise men initially approaching the wrong stable, but apparently that was one of the many blasphemous scenes in this Monty Python satire of the life of Jesus. Also: how could anyone be upset about the crucifix scene? Eric Idle’s song is just too catchy to mind its offensiveness. The Message (aka Mohammad, Messenger of God) - Much of the protests against this epic movie, about the founding of Islam, came mostly because of pre-release assumptions. For instance, some groups thought Anthony Quinn was starring as Mohammad (or Muhammad), a problem both because the prophet is not permitted to be represented in human form in any medium and because Quinn is Mexican-American, not Arab (as noted yesterday, all it takes is facial hair to change that). Other preproduction rumors were that Peter O’Toole and Charlton Heston were up for the part of Mohammad. Of course, the prophet is never seen, and Quinn merely portrays his uncle, Hamza. Unfortunate, nobody told certain extremists, even when the film came out, and apparently many cinemas received phone calls with death threats. Also, a tragic hostage situation in Washington D.C. began the day The Message opened, leading to the death of a police officer and the non-fatal shooting of future-mayor Marion Barry. One of the demands of the hostage-takers was for The Message not be released. The Passion of the Christ - A rare modern film about Jesus that didn’t seem to offend any Christians. Actually, of course it offended some groups, but their protests were clearly overshadowed by the protests from Jewish groups, who took offense to the movie’s apparent placing of blame for Jesus’ death on the Jews. Considering Mel Gibson’s later controversy involving his drunken, anti-semitic outbursts, the offense definitely seems to have more merit than initially recognized. Priest - Five years before Miramax/Disney was forced to disown Dogma because of Catholic protestors, the Weinsteins distributed this “blatantly anti-Catholic” film about a homosexual priest. Of course, it was mainly criticized by people who hadn’t seen it, such as New York Cardinal John J. O’Connor, who likened the film to graffiti found on bathroom walls. Rosemary’s Baby - There’s now a whole slew (I guess a whole subgenre) of horror films dealing with the occult, Satanism and the Antichrist, but this was the hit that pretty much started it all. And because of the parallels between Rosemary and the Virgin Mary, it’s possibly the most offensive to Catholics. Even the media used it against its director, Roman Polanski, when his wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered a year after its release; prior to revelation that Tate and the rest were killed by the Manson “family,” reporters speculated that it was the result of the Polanskis’ alleged satanism and some even claimed the tragedy was deserved. September Dawn - Until last year, Jon Voight’ most offensive movie was probably Karate Dog, but in 2007 he starred in this alleged anti-Mormon propaganda (called such before the Church of Latter-Day Saints viewed it, of course), which portrays an historical incident in which a Mormon militia massacred a wagon train of emigrants. The greatest offense is apparently the claim that Mormon leader Brigham Young (played by Terrence Stamp) was directly involved. Another criticism was that Hollywood made the film to somehow affect Mitt Romney’s campaign for President. Submission - Theo van Gogh’s ten-minute film criticizes the treatment of women in Islam and was apparently offensive enough that it led to the filmmaker’s assassination at the hands of a Dutch Muslim ma The Triumph of the Will - While Leni Reifenstahl’s propaganda film is well-regarded and highly respected today by film critics, scholars and historians, many Jewish groups see its celebration as being “morally insensitive.” Viridiana - Luis Bunuel made plenty of movies that mocked the Church, but this 1961 Palme D’or-winner was perhaps the most publicly protested by the Vatican and Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who had it banned in Spain until after his death. Bunuel’s excellent plea of ignorance: “I didn’t deliberately set out to be blasphemous, but then Pope John XXIII is a better judge of such things than I am.” Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:00:57 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com6/19/2008 3:00:57 PMThis week we have two big-time offenders: Mike Myers’ The Love Guru, which has brought concern from Hindus, because the comedy seems to be making fun of the Hindu religion; and Ron Howard’s Angels & Demons, the “sequel” to The Da Vinci Code, adapted from Dan Brown’s bestseller. Earlier this week, the Vatican banned the latter production from all Catholic churches in Rome. The following statement from Father Marco Fibbi, spokesman for the diocese of Rome, was a favorite quote from the story: “Usually we read the script but in this case it wasn’t necessary. Just the name Dan Brown was enough.” Of course, these days, religious organizations taking offense to a movie seems so commonplace that news like this is hardly even considered bad buzz. Neither The Love Guru nor Angels & Demons will be too aversely affected by the protests or boycotts. Both films will merely be added to the following list of major offenders (in alphabetical order so as not to offend anyone who thinks one is more offensive than another), as almost a genre cataloging than an inventory of condemned. Brokeback Mountain - Because of its promotion of “the homosexual lifestyle,” many right-wing Christian groups protested Ang Lee’s film. Most famously, it was pulled last-minute from a multiplex owned by Mormon businessman and Utah Jazz owner Larry H. Miller, though his motivation was not necessarily claimed to be religion-based. Despite there being hundreds of gay films throughout the years, because of its popularity, this one was the worst offender. The Da Vinci Code - I already mentioned this above and in a recent post on movies that overcame bad buzz, so I’ll make it short: banned, boycotted and protested throughout the world due to its blasphemous (and fictional) allegations that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had a child together. The Devils - Many of the following films were banned in Italy, but with Ken Russell’s blasphemous adaptation of Aldous Huxley’s “The Devils of Loudon,” there was also threat that stars Oliver Reed and Vanessa Redgrave would be arrested if they entered the country. The most offensive scene, labeled “the rape of Christ,” depicted a mock exorcism involving fully nude nuns masturbating with a large crucifix. The scene was removed prior to the film’s release, but there were plenty of other controversial sequences that led to protest. A very low-quality DVD of the film was released a few years ago with the “rape of Christ” scene put back in. Dogma - I understand how comedy can be seen as offensive, especially in the case of stereotypical caricatures like the one in The Love Guru. But Kevin Smith’s religious satire is so silly and all over the place that I can’t imagine that viewers would take its contents seriously. Yet enough protests required the film to be disowned by Miramax/Disney and then eventually be released (courtesy of Lionsgate) with a disclaimer stating that it is merely “a work of comedic fantasy.” Hail Mary - Jean-Luc Godard’s modern retelling of the Nativity was criticized by none other than Pope John Paul II, himself. He was quoted as saying that it “deeply wounds the religious sentiments of believers.” But even better was the response from another man who took offense to the film and decided to throw a shaving cream pie in Godard’s face at the 1985 Cannes Film Festival. Also this is probably one of the rare circumstances in which the filmmaker is the one trying to prevent Italian distribution and is actually unable to do so. The Last Temptation of Christ - Like Dogma, Martin Scorsese’s film came with a disclaimer that noted it is not based on the gospels and is a work of fiction. But like the case against The Da Vinci Code, the idea or depiction of Jesus and Mary Magdalene getting it on is never forgivable. Life of Brian - I can’t believe that anyone actually took offense to the joke about the three wise men initially approaching the wrong stable, but apparently that was one of the many blasphemous scenes in this Monty Python satire of the life of Jesus. Also: how could anyone be upset about the crucifix scene? Eric Idle’s song is just too catchy to mind its offensiveness. The Message (aka Mohammad, Messenger of God) - Much of the protests against this epic movie, about the founding of Islam, came mostly because of pre-release assumptions. For instance, some groups thought Anthony Quinn was starring as Mohammad (or Muhammad), a problem both because the prophet is not permitted to be represented in human form in any medium and because Quinn is Mexican-American, not Arab (as noted yesterday, all it takes is facial hair to change that). Other preproduction rumors were that Peter O’Toole and Charlton Heston were up for the part of Mohammad. Of course, the prophet is never seen, and Quinn merely portrays his uncle, Hamza. Unfortunate, nobody told certain extremists, even when the film came out, and apparently many cinemas received phone calls with death threats. Also, a tragic hostage situation in Washington D.C. began the day The Message opened, leading to the death of a police officer and the non-fatal shooting of future-mayor Marion Barry. One of the demands of the hostage-takers was for The Message not be released. The Passion of the Christ - A rare modern film about Jesus that didn’t seem to offend any Christians. Actually, of course it offended some groups, but their protests were clearly overshadowed by the protests from Jewish groups, who took offense to the movie’s apparent placing of blame for Jesus’ death on the Jews. Considering Mel Gibson’s later controversy involving his drunken, anti-semitic outbursts, the offense definitely seems to have more merit than initially recognized. Priest - Five years before Miramax/Disney was forced to disown Dogma because of Catholic protestors, the Weinsteins distributed this “blatantly anti-Catholic” film about a homosexual priest. Of course, it was mainly criticized by people who hadn’t seen it, such as New York Cardinal John J. O’Connor, who likened the film to graffiti found on bathroom walls. Rosemary’s Baby - There’s now a whole slew (I guess a whole subgenre) of horror films dealing with the occult, Satanism and the Antichrist, but this was the hit that pretty much started it all. And because of the parallels between Rosemary and the Virgin Mary, it’s possibly the most offensive to Catholics. Even the media used it against its director, Roman Polanski, when his wife, Sharon Tate, was murdered a year after its release; prior to revelation that Tate and the rest were killed by the Manson “family,” reporters speculated that it was the result of the Polanskis’ alleged satanism and some even claimed the tragedy was deserved. September Dawn - Until last year, Jon Voight’ most offensive movie was probably Karate Dog, but in 2007 he starred in this alleged anti-Mormon propaganda (called such before the Church of Latter-Day Saints viewed it, of course), which portrays an historical incident in which a Mormon militia massacred a wagon train of emigrants. The greatest offense is apparently the claim that Mormon leader Brigham Young (played by Terrence Stamp) was directly involved. Another criticism was that Hollywood made the film to somehow affect Mitt Romney’s campaign for President. Submission - Theo van Gogh’s ten-minute film criticizes the treatment of women in Islam and was apparently offensive enough that it led to the filmmaker’s assassination at the hands of a Dutch Muslim ma The Triumph of the Will - While Leni Reifenstahl’s propaganda film is well-regarded and highly respected today by film critics, scholars and historians, many Jewish groups see its celebration as being “morally insensitive.” Viridiana - Luis Bunuel made plenty of movies that mocked the Church, but this 1961 Palme D’or-winner was perhaps the most publicly protested by the Vatican and Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who had it banned in Spain until after his death. Bunuel’s excellent plea of ignorance: “I didn’t deliberately set out to be blasphemous, but then Pope John XXIII is a better judge of such things than I am.” Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/6/12/31175.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Body: Two big movies arrive in theaters this week, The Incredible Hulk and The Happening, and each has had its share of bad buzz. From what I can tell, though, the former is recuperating quite nicely with mostly favorable early reviews. And it’s sure to gross in the hundreds of millions, just like its big brother, Ang Lee’s Hulk, did a few years back. The latter, however, is still struggling through the muck, with writer-director M. Night Shyamalan doing everything he can to assure us that his film is merely a B-movie and shouldn’t be the victim of high expectations. If The Happening bombs, though, 20th Century Fox won’t be able to blame its bad buzz. Especially if The Incredible Hulk comes out a big winner this weekend. When a movie is good, or at least has some goods that audiences actually crave, it can overcome bad buzz. The list of films after the jump is evidence of this, although it’s possible that some of the older titles might have been less successful in the globally conscious age of blogs. Titanic - James Cameron’s romantic disaster film arrived in the early days of mass internet usage, but it didn’t need high-speed gossip to spread word of its troubled production. Any reader of entertainment news learned of the drug-induced food poisoning, the crew illnesses and injuries that came with filming in cold waters and the other problems that put the shoot way over schedule and way over budget. Then there was the matter of its release date being pushed back from July, 1997, to December. Yet Titanic had the goods, and it went on to become the highest-grossing film of all-time and win 11 Oscars, including Best Picture. Star Wars - If the first Star Wars film were made today, it would likely receive a lot of bad press on the web. The production was marred by a number of problems that have since been made public over the last 30 years, and apparently some initial screenings were met with disappointing reactions. But just because the bad buzz didn’t make its way to the masses doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. Much of the film’s cast and crew talked about how the movie was silly and would be a failure. My father, who was one of many illustrators commissioned to design the poster, also thought it looked stupid. And theater owners and studio execs weren’t that excited about it, either — considering this was already the beginning of the age of wide-releasing blockbusters, Star Wars‘ 32-screen opening was pretty slim. Right from that opening week, though, the movie was a smash hit, and of course its success and popularity only grew and grew. Batman - Considering how much disdain there is these days from internerds towards Michael Keaton’s Bruce Wayne/Batman, I can only imagine what kind of bad buzz Tim Burton’s movie would have gotten had the forums and blogs been around in 1989. However, at the time, there was indeed hatred for Keaton’s casting and the film in general. The Los Angeles Times printed a letter from a fan that read: “By casting a clown in the lead role, Warner Bros. and Tim Burton have defecated on the history of Batman.” Also, according to Peter Bart’s book “Boffo”, comic book geeks at Comic-Con booed representatives from the film, and the Wall Street Journal featured a front-page article criticizing the film’s extensive marketing. Ghost Rider - Like the casting of Keaton as Batman, Nicolas Cage as Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider seemed a ridiculous choice to many fans. And the movie got dragged through the mud seemingly every time it was mentioned on the web over the many years it took for the comic adaptation to be made and then released. The nail on the coffin seemed to be Sony’s decision to bump it from August 2006 to the dead-man’s month of February, in the following year. Yet despite all that, plus negative reviews, it became a surprise hit. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - Remember how we all reacted when it was announced Disney would make a movie based on a theme park ride? Remember how we all loved it when it was finally released? Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Another old film made before the scourge of the internet; another old film with bad buzz that seems to have remained hidden from the public at its time. Still, in “Boffo”, Bart claims that due to escalating costs and an overlong production (this was the first feature-length animated film from Disney and nobody knew how much or how long it would take) and the fact that studio execs didn’t believe audiences would go for such a long cartoon, “Hollywood tagged the production ‘Disney’s Folly.’” Waterworld - This one was plagued by so much bad buzz that most people still think it bombed at the box office. And if you only look at the domestic numbers, it did. But this was around the time when Hollywood started realizing how much more money could be made from international b.o. and sell-through home video distribution (VHS was still big and the DVD breakthrough was around the corner), both of which overcompensated for lack of sufficient domestic gross. Cleopatra - Another film that has a sort of unfair reputation for being a box office failure. Sure, it nearly bankrupted Twentieth Century Fox, which indeed lost millions on the production. And sure, the scandalous affair between Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton brought the film a lot of negative publicity around the world. But it was the top-grossing film of 1963 and was nominated for 9 Oscars, including Best Picture. So, despite the bad buzz, tons of people went to see it, but there was no possible way for the thing to make any money. Bee Movie - Everyone seemed to want this to fail, mostly because Jerry Seinfeld’s longtime marketing of the film was more obnoxious than anything experienced prior. And perhaps also because it was fun to refer to a bee having bad buzzzzzz. Yet children don’t follow buzz and so the movie did great business in the long term, even despite its inability to top the box office chart its opening weekend. The Da Vinci Code - It wasn’t the first movie to garner negative publicity from religious groups, but it may have been the biggest production to be threatened by protest and criticism from as high up as the Vatican. Likewise, it probably wasn’t the first movie to be laughed at and booed during its Cannes premiere. But news of that reaction circled the globe/net very quickly. However, despite whatever protests there were and despite the near-universal panning of the film by critics, it was a huge success. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:01:33 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com6/12/2008 3:01:33 PMTwo big movies arrive in theaters this week, The Incredible Hulk and The Happening, and each has had its share of bad buzz. From what I can tell, though, the former is recuperating quite nicely with mostly favorable early reviews. And it’s sure to gross in the hundreds of millions, just like its big brother, Ang Lee’s Hulk, did a few years back. The latter, however, is still struggling through the muck, with writer-director M. Night Shyamalan doing everything he can to assure us that his film is merely a B-movie and shouldn’t be the victim of high expectations. If The Happening bombs, though, 20th Century Fox won’t be able to blame its bad buzz. Especially if The Incredible Hulk comes out a big winner this weekend. When a movie is good, or at least has some goods that audiences actually crave, it can overcome bad buzz. The list of films after the jump is evidence of this, although it’s possible that some of the older titles might have been less successful in the globally conscious age of blogs. Titanic - James Cameron’s romantic disaster film arrived in the early days of mass internet usage, but it didn’t need high-speed gossip to spread word of its troubled production. Any reader of entertainment news learned of the drug-induced food poisoning, the crew illnesses and injuries that came with filming in cold waters and the other problems that put the shoot way over schedule and way over budget. Then there was the matter of its release date being pushed back from July, 1997, to December. Yet Titanic had the goods, and it went on to become the highest-grossing film of all-time and win 11 Oscars, including Best Picture. Star Wars - If the first Star Wars film were made today, it would likely receive a lot of bad press on the web. The production was marred by a number of problems that have since been made public over the last 30 years, and apparently some initial screenings were met with disappointing reactions. But just because the bad buzz didn’t make its way to the masses doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. Much of the film’s cast and crew talked about how the movie was silly and would be a failure. My father, who was one of many illustrators commissioned to design the poster, also thought it looked stupid. And theater owners and studio execs weren’t that excited about it, either — considering this was already the beginning of the age of wide-releasing blockbusters, Star Wars‘ 32-screen opening was pretty slim. Right from that opening week, though, the movie was a smash hit, and of course its success and popularity only grew and grew. Batman - Considering how much disdain there is these days from internerds towards Michael Keaton’s Bruce Wayne/Batman, I can only imagine what kind of bad buzz Tim Burton’s movie would have gotten had the forums and blogs been around in 1989. However, at the time, there was indeed hatred for Keaton’s casting and the film in general. The Los Angeles Times printed a letter from a fan that read: “By casting a clown in the lead role, Warner Bros. and Tim Burton have defecated on the history of Batman.” Also, according to Peter Bart’s book “Boffo”, comic book geeks at Comic-Con booed representatives from the film, and the Wall Street Journal featured a front-page article criticizing the film’s extensive marketing. Ghost Rider - Like the casting of Keaton as Batman, Nicolas Cage as Johnny Blaze/Ghost Rider seemed a ridiculous choice to many fans. And the movie got dragged through the mud seemingly every time it was mentioned on the web over the many years it took for the comic adaptation to be made and then released. The nail on the coffin seemed to be Sony’s decision to bump it from August 2006 to the dead-man’s month of February, in the following year. Yet despite all that, plus negative reviews, it became a surprise hit. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - Remember how we all reacted when it was announced Disney would make a movie based on a theme park ride? Remember how we all loved it when it was finally released? Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs - Another old film made before the scourge of the internet; another old film with bad buzz that seems to have remained hidden from the public at its time. Still, in “Boffo”, Bart claims that due to escalating costs and an overlong production (this was the first feature-length animated film from Disney and nobody knew how much or how long it would take) and the fact that studio execs didn’t believe audiences would go for such a long cartoon, “Hollywood tagged the production ‘Disney’s Folly.’” Waterworld - This one was plagued by so much bad buzz that most people still think it bombed at the box office. And if you only look at the domestic numbers, it did. But this was around the time when Hollywood started realizing how much more money could be made from international b.o. and sell-through home video distribution (VHS was still big and the DVD breakthrough was around the corner), both of which overcompensated for lack of sufficient domestic gross. Cleopatra - Another film that has a sort of unfair reputation for being a box office failure. Sure, it nearly bankrupted Twentieth Century Fox, which indeed lost millions on the production. And sure, the scandalous affair between Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton brought the film a lot of negative publicity around the world. But it was the top-grossing film of 1963 and was nominated for 9 Oscars, including Best Picture. So, despite the bad buzz, tons of people went to see it, but there was no possible way for the thing to make any money. Bee Movie - Everyone seemed to want this to fail, mostly because Jerry Seinfeld’s longtime marketing of the film was more obnoxious than anything experienced prior. And perhaps also because it was fun to refer to a bee having bad buzzzzzz. Yet children don’t follow buzz and so the movie did great business in the long term, even despite its inability to top the box office chart its opening weekend. The Da Vinci Code - It wasn’t the first movie to garner negative publicity from religious groups, but it may have been the biggest production to be threatened by protest and criticism from as high up as the Vatican. Likewise, it probably wasn’t the first movie to be laughed at and booed during its Cannes premiere. But news of that reaction circled the globe/net very quickly. However, despite whatever protests there were and despite the near-universal panning of the film by critics, it was a huge success. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/groups/Trailer_Park/Re_Hellboy_II_The_Golden_Army_Trailer/567/27054/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: lopezdash
Post To: Trailer Park
Post Date: 4/7/2008 7:13:02 PM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"][quote user="lopezdash"]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. [/quote]I loved that crazed Nazi character that reformed his body in the first Hellboy. I loved all of the Nazi and religious stuff. I hope the second one continues this trend. I've yet to see Lost, but I heard it's a wild clusterfuck.BTW, is Lost not listed in the Spout database? I noticed Rescue 911 wasn't either.[/quote]My understanding is that the Nazi stuff is out the window, at least I remember reading something on SpoutBlog about it. Not sure, though. I just can't wait. Everyone of my friends think that the original was ridiculously bad, but I loved it.
]]>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:13:02 GMTlopezdashTrailer Park4/7/2008 7:13:02 PM[quote user="Risselada"][quote user="lopezdash"]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. [/quote]I loved that crazed Nazi character that reformed his body in the first Hellboy. I loved all of the Nazi and religious stuff. I hope the second one continues this trend. I&#39;ve yet to see Lost, but I heard it&#39;s a wild clusterfuck.BTW, is Lost not listed in the Spout database? I noticed Rescue 911 wasn&#39;t either.[/quote]My understanding is that the Nazi stuff is out the window, at least I remember reading something on SpoutBlog about it. Not sure, though. I just can&#39;t wait. Everyone of my friends think that the original was ridiculously bad, but I loved it. http://www.spout.com/groups/Trailer_Park/Re_Hellboy_II_The_Golden_Army_Trailer/567/27053/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: lopezdash
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Post Date: 4/7/2008 7:11:39 PM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"][quote user="lopezdash"]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. [/quote]I loved that crazed Nazi character that reformed his body in the first Hellboy. I loved all of the Nazi and religious stuff. I hope the second one continues this trend. I've yet to see Lost, but I heard it's a wild clusterfuck.BTW, is Lost not listed in the Spout database? I noticed Rescue 911 wasn't either.[/quote]Lost is in the system, but I don't think the search functionality recognizes the [ in the title. I will ask about this. As for Rescue 911, the content is sourced in, so if its not available on DVD it wouldn't necessarily be on the site. I can add it if you'd like.
]]>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:11:39 GMTlopezdashTrailer Park4/7/2008 7:11:39 PM[quote user="Risselada"][quote user="lopezdash"]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. [/quote]I loved that crazed Nazi character that reformed his body in the first Hellboy. I loved all of the Nazi and religious stuff. I hope the second one continues this trend. I&#39;ve yet to see Lost, but I heard it&#39;s a wild clusterfuck.BTW, is Lost not listed in the Spout database? I noticed Rescue 911 wasn&#39;t either.[/quote]Lost is in the system, but I don&#39;t think the search functionality recognizes the [ in the title. I will ask about this. As for Rescue 911, the content is sourced in, so if its not available on DVD it wouldn&#39;t necessarily be on the site. I can add it if you&#39;d like. http://www.spout.com/groups/Trailer_Park/Re_Hellboy_II_The_Golden_Army_Trailer/567/27047/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
Post To: Trailer Park
Post Date: 4/7/2008 5:38:44 PM
Body: [quote user="lopezdash"]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. [/quote]I loved that crazed Nazi character that reformed his body in the first Hellboy. I loved all of the Nazi and religious stuff. I hope the second one continues this trend. I've yet to see Lost, but I heard it's a wild clusterfuck.BTW, is Lost not listed in the Spout database? I noticed Rescue 911 wasn't either.
]]>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:38:44 GMTRisseladaTrailer Park4/7/2008 5:38:44 PM[quote user="lopezdash"]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. [/quote]I loved that crazed Nazi character that reformed his body in the first Hellboy. I loved all of the Nazi and religious stuff. I hope the second one continues this trend. I&#39;ve yet to see Lost, but I heard it&#39;s a wild clusterfuck.BTW, is Lost not listed in the Spout database? I noticed Rescue 911 wasn&#39;t either. http://www.spout.com/groups/Trailer_Park/Re_Hellboy_II_The_Golden_Army_Trailer/567/27036/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: lopezdash
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Post Date: 4/7/2008 10:57:23 AM
Body: [quote user="mercurial"][quote user="lopezdash"] What do y'all think about the new Hellboy II: The Golden Army trailer? (Click the link to watch on the film detail page)I was a big fan of the original Hellboy, for reasons I can't really identify. The first minute or two of the trailer made me think that the sequel was going to focus a lot less on the relationships that were created in the first, but then the last few seconds made me think the deep cult/religious historical stuff will be broken up with moderately funny dialogue between Hellboy and his team.I'm looking forward to it... [/quote]I CAN"T WAIT! I love the whole concept of Hellboy and I can only hope that this film will be like X-Men 2 for me and competely renew my hope for the series. There were so many aspects of the first film that I loved yet something about it managed to fall somewhat short for me so I am hoping that this movie will be everything I expected from the first and more.[/quote]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this.
]]>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:57:23 GMTlopezdashTrailer Park4/7/2008 10:57:23 AM[quote user="mercurial"][quote user="lopezdash"] What do y&#39;all think about the new Hellboy II: The Golden Army trailer? (Click the link to watch on the film detail page)I was a big fan of the original Hellboy, for reasons I can&#39;t really identify. The first minute or two of the trailer made me think that the sequel was going to focus a lot less on the relationships that were created in the first, but then the last few seconds made me think the deep cult/religious historical stuff will be broken up with moderately funny dialogue between Hellboy and his team.I&#39;m looking forward to it... [/quote]I CAN"T WAIT! I love the whole concept of Hellboy and I can only hope that this film will be like X-Men 2 for me and competely renew my hope for the series. There were so many aspects of the first film that I loved yet something about it managed to fall somewhat short for me so I am hoping that this movie will be everything I expected from the first and more.[/quote]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. http://www.spout.com/groups/Trailer_Park/Re_Hellboy_II_The_Golden_Army_Trailer/567/27035/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: lopezdash
Post To: Trailer Park
Post Date: 4/7/2008 10:57:22 AM
Body: [quote user="mercurial"][quote user="lopezdash"] What do y'all think about the new Hellboy II: The Golden Army trailer? (Click the link to watch on the film detail page)I was a big fan of the original Hellboy, for reasons I can't really identify. The first minute or two of the trailer made me think that the sequel was going to focus a lot less on the relationships that were created in the first, but then the last few seconds made me think the deep cult/religious historical stuff will be broken up with moderately funny dialogue between Hellboy and his team.I'm looking forward to it... [/quote]I CAN"T WAIT! I love the whole concept of Hellboy and I can only hope that this film will be like X-Men 2 for me and competely renew my hope for the series. There were so many aspects of the first film that I loved yet something about it managed to fall somewhat short for me so I am hoping that this movie will be everything I expected from the first and more.[/quote]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this.
]]>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:57:22 GMTlopezdashTrailer Park4/7/2008 10:57:22 AM[quote user="mercurial"][quote user="lopezdash"] What do y&#39;all think about the new Hellboy II: The Golden Army trailer? (Click the link to watch on the film detail page)I was a big fan of the original Hellboy, for reasons I can&#39;t really identify. The first minute or two of the trailer made me think that the sequel was going to focus a lot less on the relationships that were created in the first, but then the last few seconds made me think the deep cult/religious historical stuff will be broken up with moderately funny dialogue between Hellboy and his team.I&#39;m looking forward to it... [/quote]I CAN"T WAIT! I love the whole concept of Hellboy and I can only hope that this film will be like X-Men 2 for me and competely renew my hope for the series. There were so many aspects of the first film that I loved yet something about it managed to fall somewhat short for me so I am hoping that this movie will be everything I expected from the first and more.[/quote]I completely agree. There was just something about the whole Nazi thing that weirded me out. There seems to be something about these films that use history and religion... the Da Vinci Code for example. I feel like they could all do so much more. There are so many smaller plot lines that could be pursued, and backstories that could develop. LOST has really captured the essence of this. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/fantasy/MemberTagFilms.aspxfantasy
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