list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around Oldboy on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/Oldboy/241032/default.aspx Title: Oldboy
Year: 2005
Director: Park Chan-wook
Plot: South Korean filmmaker Park Chan-wook directed this violent and offbeat story of punishment and vengeance. Oh Dae-su (Choi Min-sik) is a husband and father whose reputation for womanizing is well known. One day, for reasons he doesn't understand, Oh Dae-su finds himself locked up in a prison cell, with no idea of what his crime was or whom his jailers may be. With a small television as his only link to the outside world and a daily ration of fried dumplings as his only sustenance, Oh Dae-su struggles to keep his mind and body intact, but when he learns through a news report that his wife has been killed, he begins a long and difficult project of digging an escape tunnel with a pair of chopsticks. Before he can finish -- and after 15 years behind bars -- Oh Dae-su is released, with as little explanation as when he was locked up, and he's soon given a wad of money and a cellular phone by a bum on the street. Emotionally stunted but physically strong after 15 years in jail, Oh Dae-su struggles to unravel the secret of who is responsible for locking him up, what happened to his wife and daughter, and how to best get revenge against his captors. Oldeuboi was screened in competition at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and won the coveted Grand Prix. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide
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]]>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:21:42 GMTOldboy2005Park Chan-wookSouth Korean filmmaker <a href="/players/P___293448/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Park Chan-wook</a> directed this violent and offbeat story of punishment and vengeance. Oh Dae-su (Choi Min-sik) is a husband and father whose reputation for womanizing is well known. One day, for reasons he doesn't understand, Oh Dae-su finds himself locked up in a prison cell, with no idea of what his crime was or whom his jailers may be. With a small television as his only link to the outside world and a daily ration of fried dumplings as his only sustenance, Oh Dae-su struggles to keep his mind and body intact, but when he learns through a news report that his wife has been killed, he begins a long and difficult project of digging an escape tunnel with a pair of chopsticks. Before he can finish -- and after 15 years behind bars -- Oh Dae-su is released, with as little explanation as when he was locked up, and he's soon given a wad of money and a cellular phone by a bum on the street. Emotionally stunted but physically strong after 15 years in jail, Oh Dae-su struggles to unravel the secret of who is responsible for locking him up, what happened to his wife and daughter, and how to best get revenge against his captors. Oldeuboi was screened in competition at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and won the coveted Grand Prix. ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide45Tag Target (>10)72584http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u45789bksfg.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Oldboy/241032/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/stinger839/archive/2008/9/20/35338.aspx Post By: Stinger839
Post To: Stinger839 Blog
Post Date: 9/20/2008 1:42:15 PM
Body: Of the Chanwook Park Vengeance trilogy, Oldboy is the middle piece, the one with the least subtext and the most predictable, and not surprisingly the one with the most orchestrated glorified violence that the American market devours. And the one with the most pointless deus-ex machina "twists" may I add, whereas plot "twists" in the other movies unravel like a perfectly dropped ball of yarn cascading in a straight line down a staircase. This is the weakest movie of the trilogy, and anyone wishing to understand the subtext of Chanwook''s vision should at least do him the courtesy of watching Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance before taking to analyze this in terms of theme because the movies are meant to be like a chord. One note - nothing but repetitive sound. Three notes- a chord. And Oldboy is an annoying note. It's a great movie but it's just not anywhere as good as the other two.
]]>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:42:15 GMTStinger839Stinger839 Blog9/20/2008 1:42:15 PMOf the Chanwook Park Vengeance trilogy, Oldboy is the middle piece, the one with the least subtext and the most predictable, and not surprisingly the one with the most orchestrated glorified violence that the American market devours. And the one with the most pointless deus-ex machina "twists" may I add, whereas plot "twists" in the other movies unravel like a perfectly dropped ball of yarn cascading in a straight line down a staircase. This is the weakest movie of the trilogy, and anyone wishing to understand the subtext of Chanwook''s vision should at least do him the courtesy of watching Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Lady Vengeance before taking to analyze this in terms of theme because the movies are meant to be like a chord. One note - nothing but repetitive sound. Three notes- a chord. And Oldboy is an annoying note. It's a great movie but it's just not anywhere as good as the other two. http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Top_5_Completely_Over_the_Top_Films/190/31785/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: unclefestering
Post To: Top 5
Post Date: 6/27/2008 12:08:20 PM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"] Has anyone seen Riki-Oh? I've heard about it and seen a few clips, and it sounds like it might fit in here if it lives up to it's reputation. [/quote] This is the my leader for the over the top Kung Fu movies. And it takes a lot for that. In the early days of the Daily Show when Craig Kilborn hosted, they used the exploding head as their intro to their Five Questions segment. Rounding out my top five in no particular order: Over the top evolution: Idiocracy Over the top literacy: Evil Dead Over the top coincidence: Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Over the top revenge: Oldboy
]]>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:08:20 GMTunclefesteringTop 56/27/2008 12:08:20 PM[quote user="Risselada"] Has anyone seen Riki-Oh? I've heard about it and seen a few clips, and it sounds like it might fit in here if it lives up to it's reputation. [/quote] This is the my leader for the over the top Kung Fu movies. And it takes a lot for that. In the early days of the Daily Show when Craig Kilborn hosted, they used the exploding head as their intro to their Five Questions segment. Rounding out my top five in no particular order: Over the top evolution: Idiocracy Over the top literacy: Evil Dead Over the top coincidence: Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown Over the top revenge: Oldboy http://www.spout.com/groups/Friends_of_Foreign_Flicks/Re_Foreign_Film_Name_Game/591/30071/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: unclefestering
Post To: Friends of Foreign Flicks
Post Date: 5/28/2008 10:10:16 AM
Body: Yojimbo (1961)
]]>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:10:16 GMTunclefesteringFriends of Foreign Flicks5/28/2008 10:10:16 AMYojimbo (1961) http://www.spout.com/groups/Friends_of_Foreign_Flicks/Re_Foreign_Film_Name_Game/591/30063/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: leeroy711
Post To: Friends of Foreign Flicks
Post Date: 5/28/2008 12:38:10 AM
Body: Oldboy Cool, you resurrected the name game.
]]>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:38:10 GMTleeroy711Friends of Foreign Flicks5/28/2008 12:38:10 AM Oldboy Cool, you resurrected the name game. http://www.spout.com/groups/Friends_of_Foreign_Flicks/Re_Foreign_Gems/591/28019/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: leeroy711
Post To: Friends of Foreign Flicks
Post Date: 4/30/2008 3:44:27 PM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"] I have a few favorite foreign directors. It's somewhat difficult for me to evaluate how well known some of these people are since when I like them I spend a lot more time reading about them, so they don't seem too obscure to me anymore. Tsai Ming-liang Aki Kaurismäki Seijun Suzuki I've just seen one movie by Béla Tarr, but it was pretty great. [/quote] The only film I've seen by any of those guys was The Hole by Tsai Ming-lian. But along similar lines, I've been recommended Oldboy by Park Chan-Wook.
]]>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:44:27 GMTleeroy711Friends of Foreign Flicks4/30/2008 3:44:27 PM[quote user="Risselada"] I have a few favorite foreign directors. It's somewhat difficult for me to evaluate how well known some of these people are since when I like them I spend a lot more time reading about them, so they don't seem too obscure to me anymore. Tsai Ming-liang Aki Kaurism&auml;ki Seijun Suzuki I've just seen one movie by B&eacute;la Tarr, but it was pretty great. [/quote] The only film I've seen by any of those guys was The Hole by Tsai Ming-lian. But along similar lines, I've been recommended Oldboy by Park Chan-Wook. http://www.spout.com/blogs/pratchettfan/archive/2008/1/29/24482.aspx Post By: pratchettfan
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Post Date: 1/29/2008 5:59:29 AM
Body: The premise is very interesting. D-War is a Korean production (director, producer and production company are all Korean) but the movie is set in the US and most of the cast are Americans.The story is based on an ancient Korean legend where two snake battle each other to find Yeouijoo to get into heaven.The action scenes are pretty good, but after seeing Oldboy and The Host I was expecting more depth to the story than D-War had to show for. All in all it was just another action movie with some interesting scenes (a huge snake climbing up a high-rise and an army of fire-breathing dragons (?) battling helicopters) and not much more.
]]>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:59:29 GMTpratchettfanpratchettfan Blog1/29/2008 5:59:29 AMThe premise is very interesting. D-War is a Korean production (director, producer and production company are all Korean) but the movie is set in the US and most of the cast are Americans.The story is based on an ancient Korean legend where two snake battle each other to find Yeouijoo to get into heaven.The action scenes are pretty good, but after seeing Oldboy and The Host I was expecting more depth to the story than D-War had to show for. All in all it was just another action movie with some interesting scenes (a huge snake climbing up a high-rise and an army of fire-breathing dragons (?) battling helicopters) and not much more. http://www.spout.com/groups/Spout_Feedback/Re_Searching/129/19108/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 8/29/2007 1:21:27 PM
Body: [quote user="rjsprague"] I was actually looking for a film called Old Boy by this Korean director, but I couldn't find it. QQ It was a good film.[/quote]I can't help you out by adding any features to the site, but I can tell you that Oldboy is listed as one word, not two.http://www.spout.com/films/241032/default.aspx
]]>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:21:27 GMTRisseladaSpout Feedback8/29/2007 1:21:27 PM[quote user="rjsprague"] I was actually looking for a film called Old Boy by this Korean director, but I couldn&#39;t find it. QQ It was a good film.[/quote]I can&#39;t help you out by adding any features to the site, but I can tell you that Oldboy is listed as one word, not two.http://www.spout.com/films/241032/default.aspx http://www.spout.com/groups/Asian_Art_Cinema/Definitions_of_Art_Unclassificables_movies_Art_S/412/15454/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: tinokiev
Post To: Asian Art Cinema
Post Date: 7/20/2007 9:30:27 PM
Body: Personally I often find myself trying to classify or rate a film, specially asian ones and not finding a term or a category to put it on. It is like " a wong kar wai" film. Wong Kar Wai himself is a category of his own approach to aesthetics's, or you could said a "takashi mike" film and you know you are going to expect lots of blood. But still are hard to categorized. You cannot say "The postmen in the mountain" is a father-son movie only, or that "scent of the green papaya" is maturity. Etc. I think everyone is clear that there are just movies that do not fall into a genre and explore here and there into different categories that we recognize. And many of those movies ended up being referred to as "Art Film" or "Experimental". Anyway, I called this group "Asian Art Cinema" and while I was looking through some of the films I put in I found myself wondering. Is this and this film an "Asian art" film ?. And many people will probably argue and disagree with my concept or art. But being this an open group I kind of put any Asian film that I have watch. So please feel free to add films to the list even if you don't believe it is "Art" To take an example, we have "Oldboy" . I personally loved that movie. It was escene of extreme violence as well as what I consider to be extreme beauty (Hugging couple in the snow), It was a combination of sex and romance that i finded very well managed for being involved with "incest". There is Action, Comedy, Romance, Horror, Suspense, Dobule Personalities, and Detective like genre. But I still think this movie is an Art film, for his contemporary and different approach. Do you think that is art ? "In the realm of the senses" and "Lies"for example really makes people think what the whole film wanted to say or was about, apart from showing a lot of sex. Is that art ? Takashi Kitano Is one of the directors that mix the pure Art scenes by definition, with extreme violence, and it is not hard to classify "Hana Bi" (Fireworks) as an Art film. But will you say the same about his film "Violent Cop" ?So this discussion with myself is not going anywhere, but I hope you understand the confusion I have. To what point violence & Sex overcome a movie and tags it for it, How much until it goes in or out the "art" category. Is it ok to show extreme violence if is beautifully shot ? Or can we justify a rape scene by letting the rapist say a haiku ?Let me know what you think ! PD: I didn't mention western films with similar "dilemmas " like "irreversible " or "9 1/2 weeks". But I think the discussion can include same category of films even if they are not western. Ivan
]]>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:30:27 GMTtinokievAsian Art Cinema7/20/2007 9:30:27 PMPersonally I often find myself trying to classify or rate a film, specially asian ones and not finding a term or a category to put it on. It is like " a wong kar wai" film. Wong Kar Wai himself is a category of his own approach to aesthetics&#39;s, or you could said a "takashi mike" film and you know you are going to expect lots of blood. But still are hard to categorized. You cannot say "The postmen in the mountain" is a father-son movie only, or that "scent of the green papaya" is maturity. Etc. I think everyone is clear that there are just movies that do not fall into a genre and explore here and there into different categories that we recognize. And many of those movies ended up being referred to as "Art Film" or "Experimental". Anyway, I called this group "Asian Art Cinema" and while I was looking through some of the films I put in I found myself wondering. Is this and this film an "Asian art" film ?. And many people will probably argue and disagree with my concept or art. But being this an open group I kind of put any Asian film that I have watch. So please feel free to add films to the list even if you don&#39;t believe it is "Art" To take an example, we have "Oldboy" . I personally loved that movie. It was escene of extreme violence as well as what I consider to be extreme beauty (Hugging couple in the snow), It was a combination of sex and romance that i finded very well managed for being involved with "incest". There is Action, Comedy, Romance, Horror, Suspense, Dobule Personalities, and Detective like genre. But I still think this movie is an Art film, for his contemporary and different approach. Do you think that is art ? "In the realm of the senses" and "Lies"for example really makes people think what the whole film wanted to say or was about, apart from showing a lot of sex. Is that art ? Takashi Kitano Is one of the directors that mix the pure Art scenes by definition, with extreme violence, and it is not hard to classify "Hana Bi" (Fireworks) as an Art film. But will you say the same about his film "Violent Cop" ?So this discussion with myself is not going anywhere, but I hope you understand the confusion I have. To what point violence &amp; Sex overcome a movie and tags it for it, How much until it goes in or out the "art" category. Is it ok to show extreme violence if is beautifully shot ? Or can we justify a rape scene by letting the rapist say a haiku ?Let me know what you think ! PD: I didn&#39;t mention western films with similar "dilemmas " like "irreversible " or "9 1/2 weeks". But I think the discussion can include same category of films even if they are not western. Ivan http://www.spout.com/blogs/mnoo/archive/2007/7/12/13758.aspx Post By: mnoo
Post To: mnoo Blog
Post Date: 7/12/2007 6:08:21 PM
Body: Oldboy is in so many people's Top 10 and I've heard so much praise and been pestered to see it forever. So, needless to say, the expectations were perhaps very much too high going in. I did rather enjoy the first half. The plot was certainly original to start with, and the cinematography definitely ranks quite high on the visually gorgeous side of things. My problem is that I usually have an annoying talent of spotting where the plot is going quite early on (yes, I'm one of those 'I bet he killed her' people, which annoys others who might have wanted to stay in suspense until the final showdown. :P), and with this plot it was just glaringly obvious to me where it was going. So for most of the film I was just waiting for the plot to catch up and put me out of my misery. I also think that after showing so much promise at the start, and having gone to all the trouble of trying to confuse the watcher, the actual underlining story was way too simplistic and insipid. I was desperately hoping that I would get surprised at the end, which didn't happen. Having said that, I can certainly see why people rank Oldboy so high. It's definitely head and shoulders above the standard of a stereotypical Hollywood production. And it does look very good indeed. I think it suffers from building up too big expectations without delivering the depth of a masterpiece that it aspires to be.
]]>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:08:21 GMTmnoomnoo Blog7/12/2007 6:08:21 PMOldboy is in so many people's Top 10 and I've heard so much praise and been pestered to see it forever. So, needless to say, the expectations were perhaps very much too high going in. I did rather enjoy the first half. The plot was certainly original to start with, and the cinematography definitely ranks quite high on the visually gorgeous side of things. My problem is that I usually have an annoying talent of spotting where the plot is going quite early on (yes, I'm one of those 'I bet he killed her' people, which annoys others who might have wanted to stay in suspense until the final showdown. :P), and with this plot it was just glaringly obvious to me where it was going. So for most of the film I was just waiting for the plot to catch up and put me out of my misery. I also think that after showing so much promise at the start, and having gone to all the trouble of trying to confuse the watcher, the actual underlining story was way too simplistic and insipid. I was desperately hoping that I would get surprised at the end, which didn't happen. Having said that, I can certainly see why people rank Oldboy so high. It's definitely head and shoulders above the standard of a stereotypical Hollywood production. And it does look very good indeed. I think it suffers from building up too big expectations without delivering the depth of a masterpiece that it aspires to be. http://www.spout.com/groups/Korean_Cinema/Re_Most_Anticipated_Upcoming_Korean_Film/98/12692/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: lukasblu
Post To: Korean Cinema
Post Date: 6/30/2007 2:15:04 PM
Body: my fave korean everything(action,disturbed,awesome script,family,suspense,etc..) film is oldboy also.you are the second one that recommended 3 Extremes to me;the other member that recommended this is from the horror group.I put it number two on my Queu behind real fiction by kim-ki duk:have you seen real fiction??i just saw a movie by the same director called the bow;The bow was a very visual movie with a good soundtrack;I have never seen a movie quite like that;The pace was much slower than oldboy or any other korean movies i have seen but yet captivating;Everything was based on the main characters facial expressions,their body movements,their environment and the other fishermen since the main characters had no spoken dialogue(except those whispers which we never knew what was said).The boats, and the bow was also a big thing;Also that ending ceremonial wedding was something;there was a lot of symbolism there that the viewer has to figure for herself or the viewer has to figure their own conclusion ;AND that arrow being shot between the girls legs,intriguing???This the quitest,least disturbing kim-ki duk movie i have seen compared to bad guy and samaritan girlWhats your fave by kim-ki duk??Mine is bad guyI put the host on my queue;it comes out 7/24/07 ,i will be anticipating it as a great scary flick; with A Bittersweet Life ,it doesn't seem to be available both at netflix and blockbuster;i am going to look into itBy the way where do you acquire asian movies that are not available in mainstream rental???roland from another asian group suggested an asian rental site with very much the same rules as the mainstream rentals.thanks for the info./update on Evil Live and The Good, the Bad and the Weird ;will be on the lookout for those flicks when they become available.Whats your second favorite by Park Chan-wook.???
]]>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:15:04 GMTlukasbluKorean Cinema6/30/2007 2:15:04 PMmy fave korean everything(action,disturbed,awesome script,family,suspense,etc..) film is oldboy also.you are the second one that recommended 3 Extremes to me;the other member that recommended this is from the horror group.I put it number two on my Queu behind real fiction by kim-ki duk:have you seen real fiction??i just saw a movie by the same director called the bow;The bow was a very visual movie with a good soundtrack;I have never seen a movie quite like that;The pace was much slower than oldboy or any other korean movies i have seen but yet captivating;Everything was based on the main characters facial expressions,their body movements,their environment and the other fishermen since the main characters had no spoken dialogue(except those whispers which we never knew what was said).The boats, and the bow was also a big thing;Also that ending ceremonial wedding was something;there was a lot of symbolism there that the viewer has to figure for herself or the viewer has to figure their own conclusion ;AND that arrow being shot between the girls legs,intriguing???This the quitest,least disturbing kim-ki duk movie i have seen compared to bad guy and samaritan girlWhats your fave by kim-ki duk??Mine is bad guyI put the host on my queue;it comes out 7/24/07 ,i will be anticipating it as a great scary flick; with A Bittersweet Life ,it doesn't seem to be available both at netflix and blockbuster;i am going to look into itBy the way where do you acquire asian movies that are not available in mainstream rental???roland from another asian group suggested an asian rental site with very much the same rules as the mainstream rentals.thanks for the info./update on Evil Live and The Good, the Bad and the Weird ;will be on the lookout for those flicks when they become available.Whats your second favorite by Park Chan-wook.??? http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/awesome/MemberTagFilms.aspxawesome
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