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Year: 2004
Director: Walter Salles, Jr.
Plot: Brazilian director Walter Salles Jr. follows up the Golden Globe-nominated Behind the Sun with this filmed adaptation of Argentinian-born Cuban revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara's journals of the same name. The Motorcycle Diaries stars Gael García Bernal (Y Tu Mamá También, Amores Perros) as a young, pre-revolution Guevara, a 23-year-old medical student in 1952 traveling across South America on a motorcycle with his friend Alberto Granado (Rodrigo de la Serna), who co-wrote the source material. As they embark on their journey, both young men come of age and find their individual world views broadened farther than they ever expected. The Motorcycle Diaries premiered at the 2004 Sundance Film Festival. ~ Matthew Tobey, All Movie Guide
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]]>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:29:13 GMTThe Motorcycle Diaries2004Walter Salles, Jr.Brazilian director Walter Salles Jr. follows up the Golden Globe-nominated <a href=/films/200704/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Behind the Sun</a> with this filmed adaptation of Argentinian-born Cuban revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara's journals of the same name. The Motorcycle Diaries stars <a href="/players/P___294532/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Gael García Bernal</a> (<a href=/films/196780/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Y Tu Mamá También</a>, <a href=/films/154697/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Amores Perros</a>) as a young, pre-revolution Guevara, a 23-year-old medical student in 1952 traveling across South America on a motorcycle with his friend Alberto Granado (<a href="/players/P___372541/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Rodrigo de la Serna</a>), who co-wrote the source material. As they embark on their journey, both young men come of age and find their individual world views broadened farther than they ever expected. The Motorcycle Diaries premiered at the 2004 Sundance Film Festival. ~ Matthew Tobey, All Movie Guide30Tag Target (>10)46823http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t54112w3k1j.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/The_Motorcycle_Diaries/230917/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/11/13/37289.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Body: Danny Boyle’s new crowd-pleasing film Slumdog Millionaire was originally intended to be shot entirely in English, but apparently due to the preferences of a casting director, about a third of the movie is in Hindi. While this fraction may not be enough to call it a foreign-language film, it could have been enough to turn off subtitle-fearing audiences were the movie not so otherwise accessible due to its feel-good, “Hollywood-style” story involving star-crossed romance, destiny and an ultimate “love conquers all” message. Also, the movie breaks free from one off-putting foreign film tradition by following Man on Fire, Night Watch and TV’s Heroes into the realm of non-traditional subtitling. Slumdog received a standing ovation at the Toronto Film Festival, where it won the People’s Choice Award, and it could very well extend its popularity in the direction of the multiplex crowd. If it’s a hit with moviegoers who aren’t typically open to world cinema, this could be the chance for similarly feel-good foreign films to cross over and reach a wider audience, whether they be upcoming releases like the Sundance-winning Captain Abu Raed or titles from the past that could always use more Netflix-queue love. And so, in the hopes that Slumdog could help open the door to further foreign film consumption, SpoutBlog presents this guide to the most accessible world cinema titles from the past ten years. For every entry-level film on the list, we name a couple of more intermediate titled in the same vein — just in case you get hooked. Amelie Spout.com user leeroy711 recently referred to this imaginative French film as the foreign-language cinema’s “gateway drug.” And it’s certainly true that its fanciful romantic story and colorful tone have won the favor of many a young adult not previously accustomed to European cinema. Never mind that it makes stalking seem a little too precious and innocent — the film’s whimsical title character (played delightfully by Audrey Tautou), full of good intentions and lots of heart, will have you wishing you had such a thoughtful and inventive pursuer. Also worth checking out: A Very Long Engagement; Love Me If You Dare The Chorus Hollywood sometimes seems to have cornered the market on movies about inspirational teachers, especially those involving music instruction. But this French film proves that foreign films can have similarly motivational stories about great educators and their newly encouraged students. Also worth checking out: Small Voices; Monsieur Ibrahim City of God This Brazilian film set in the favelas of Rio can be quite violent, enough to have been compared to gangster films like Goodfellas (though Goodfellas doesn’t have any little kids being shot in the foot). But at its center is the uplifting tale of a boy who makes it out of the slums in order to become a successful writer. Also worth checking out: City of Men (both the TV series and the feature film) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Martial arts cinema has long been an accessible genre to a large enough portion of Americans, but this film, which became the top grossing foreign-language title in the U.S. (not counting The Passion of the Christ), has managed to acquire fans that don’t normally go for kung fu and wuxia. The main attraction that makes this title more appealing than most is likely its production value, which with its beautiful cinematography and well-crafted special effects allows it to compare to romantic epics out of Hollywood. Also worth checking out: Hero; House of Flying Daggers Lagaan: Once Upon a Time in India The running time of 3 hrs. 43 min. probably seems like a deterrent, but this Bollywood film really does feel a lot shorter than it is. Really. And anyway its compelling story of an underdog cricket team is familiar enough that you don’t have to pay too much attention if you don’t have the time — though it will be difficult to let your attention stray except for during some of the less-adequately translated musical numbers that aren’t so significant or relatable to most Western viewers. Just think of this film as your typical Hollywood sports movie, except instead of the final game being quickly highlighted in the last 30 minutes, it’s seemingly depicted in its entirety for more than an hour. And yes, the ending is a crowd-pleaser. Also worth checking out: The Cup; Monsoon Wedding Life is Beautiful This Oscar-winning film is so feel-good that it comes close to overkill. In fact, a decade after its release, it’s easy to forget just how entertaining it is. Just as we’re more likely to remember the stomach ache after gorging ourselves with delicious sweets or the hangover that follows a great night of drinking, moviegoers often recall only the obnoxiousness that came with an overexposed and over-awarded Roberto Benigni. But don’t let the cynics keep you from enjoying such a heartwarming and inspiriting tale of a “real life Prince Charming.” Also worth checking out: I Served the King of England The Motorcycle Diaries Hollywood could actually take a cue from this film the next time it wants to make one of those prequels detailing the life of an iconic villain (ex: Hannibal Rising), at least if it wants audiences to like the guy enough to forget he grows up to be a murderous rebel. Whether or not you like who and what Ernesto Guevara becomes in the years after The Motorcycle Diaries takes place, you’ll have no trouble falling for his younger self as he ditches his privileged life and devotes himself to a colony of lepers. Also worth checking out: Downfall Pan’s Labyrinth In the tradition of such dark yet magical stories as Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz, a little girl encounters strange creatures and kind of winds up a princess. It’s ultimately a very sad and depressing film, but the ending at least pretends to be happy, enough that you might think your eyes are watering with tears of joy. Also worth checking out: City of Lost Children Run Lola Run It’s extremely fast-paced, a little bit MTV, a little bit video game, and it features a character you really want to root for, especially because she’s narratively allotted a few do-overs in order to make things right. And mainstream moviegoers love stories of both chance and second chances. Roger Ebert also noted in his review that it’s the kind of film that could play in a sports bar, so perhaps it’s even more of a gateway foreign film for sports fans than Lagaan. Also worth checking out: The Princess and the Warrior; Amores perros Tsotsi Like City of God, this film involves a crime-ridden ghetto, but it’s even more accessible than that film despite its lack of inspiring upward mobility. It could probably appeal most to fans of American “urban” gangster films, but any mainstream moviegoer should enjoy the conventional plot involving a thug who accidentally kidnaps a baby and then changes morally as a result. Also worth checking out: Kolya; Central Station Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:00:46 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com11/13/2008 5:00:46 PMDanny Boyle’s new crowd-pleasing film Slumdog Millionaire was originally intended to be shot entirely in English, but apparently due to the preferences of a casting director, about a third of the movie is in Hindi. While this fraction may not be enough to call it a foreign-language film, it could have been enough to turn off subtitle-fearing audiences were the movie not so otherwise accessible due to its feel-good, “Hollywood-style” story involving star-crossed romance, destiny and an ultimate “love conquers all” message. Also, the movie breaks free from one off-putting foreign film tradition by following Man on Fire, Night Watch and TV’s Heroes into the realm of non-traditional subtitling. Slumdog received a standing ovation at the Toronto Film Festival, where it won the People’s Choice Award, and it could very well extend its popularity in the direction of the multiplex crowd. If it’s a hit with moviegoers who aren’t typically open to world cinema, this could be the chance for similarly feel-good foreign films to cross over and reach a wider audience, whether they be upcoming releases like the Sundance-winning Captain Abu Raed or titles from the past that could always use more Netflix-queue love. And so, in the hopes that Slumdog could help open the door to further foreign film consumption, SpoutBlog presents this guide to the most accessible world cinema titles from the past ten years. For every entry-level film on the list, we name a couple of more intermediate titled in the same vein — just in case you get hooked. Amelie Spout.com user leeroy711 recently referred to this imaginative French film as the foreign-language cinema’s “gateway drug.” And it’s certainly true that its fanciful romantic story and colorful tone have won the favor of many a young adult not previously accustomed to European cinema. Never mind that it makes stalking seem a little too precious and innocent — the film’s whimsical title character (played delightfully by Audrey Tautou), full of good intentions and lots of heart, will have you wishing you had such a thoughtful and inventive pursuer. Also worth checking out: A Very Long Engagement; Love Me If You Dare The Chorus Hollywood sometimes seems to have cornered the market on movies about inspirational teachers, especially those involving music instruction. But this French film proves that foreign films can have similarly motivational stories about great educators and their newly encouraged students. Also worth checking out: Small Voices; Monsieur Ibrahim City of God This Brazilian film set in the favelas of Rio can be quite violent, enough to have been compared to gangster films like Goodfellas (though Goodfellas doesn’t have any little kids being shot in the foot). But at its center is the uplifting tale of a boy who makes it out of the slums in order to become a successful writer. Also worth checking out: City of Men (both the TV series and the feature film) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Martial arts cinema has long been an accessible genre to a large enough portion of Americans, but this film, which became the top grossing foreign-language title in the U.S. (not counting The Passion of the Christ), has managed to acquire fans that don’t normally go for kung fu and wuxia. The main attraction that makes this title more appealing than most is likely its production value, which with its beautiful cinematography and well-crafted special effects allows it to compare to romantic epics out of Hollywood. Also worth checking out: Hero; House of Flying Daggers Lagaan: Once Upon a Time in India The running time of 3 hrs. 43 min. probably seems like a deterrent, but this Bollywood film really does feel a lot shorter than it is. Really. And anyway its compelling story of an underdog cricket team is familiar enough that you don’t have to pay too much attention if you don’t have the time — though it will be difficult to let your attention stray except for during some of the less-adequately translated musical numbers that aren’t so significant or relatable to most Western viewers. Just think of this film as your typical Hollywood sports movie, except instead of the final game being quickly highlighted in the last 30 minutes, it’s seemingly depicted in its entirety for more than an hour. And yes, the ending is a crowd-pleaser. Also worth checking out: The Cup; Monsoon Wedding Life is Beautiful This Oscar-winning film is so feel-good that it comes close to overkill. In fact, a decade after its release, it’s easy to forget just how entertaining it is. Just as we’re more likely to remember the stomach ache after gorging ourselves with delicious sweets or the hangover that follows a great night of drinking, moviegoers often recall only the obnoxiousness that came with an overexposed and over-awarded Roberto Benigni. But don’t let the cynics keep you from enjoying such a heartwarming and inspiriting tale of a “real life Prince Charming.” Also worth checking out: I Served the King of England The Motorcycle Diaries Hollywood could actually take a cue from this film the next time it wants to make one of those prequels detailing the life of an iconic villain (ex: Hannibal Rising), at least if it wants audiences to like the guy enough to forget he grows up to be a murderous rebel. Whether or not you like who and what Ernesto Guevara becomes in the years after The Motorcycle Diaries takes place, you’ll have no trouble falling for his younger self as he ditches his privileged life and devotes himself to a colony of lepers. Also worth checking out: Downfall Pan’s Labyrinth In the tradition of such dark yet magical stories as Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz, a little girl encounters strange creatures and kind of winds up a princess. It’s ultimately a very sad and depressing film, but the ending at least pretends to be happy, enough that you might think your eyes are watering with tears of joy. Also worth checking out: City of Lost Children Run Lola Run It’s extremely fast-paced, a little bit MTV, a little bit video game, and it features a character you really want to root for, especially because she’s narratively allotted a few do-overs in order to make things right. And mainstream moviegoers love stories of both chance and second chances. Roger Ebert also noted in his review that it’s the kind of film that could play in a sports bar, so perhaps it’s even more of a gateway foreign film for sports fans than Lagaan. Also worth checking out: The Princess and the Warrior; Amores perros Tsotsi Like City of God, this film involves a crime-ridden ghetto, but it’s even more accessible than that film despite its lack of inspiring upward mobility. It could probably appeal most to fans of American “urban” gangster films, but any mainstream moviegoer should enjoy the conventional plot involving a thug who accidentally kidnaps a baby and then changes morally as a result. Also worth checking out: Kolya; Central Station Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Depressing_holidays_dysfunctional_families_fo/190/37175/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
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Body: Most Accessible Foreign Language Films of the Last 10 Years: 1.) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 2.) Kung-Fu Hustle 3.) Y Tu Mama Tambien 4.) Pan's Labyrinth 5.) Ringu 6.) Talk to Her 7.) The Spanish Apartment 8.) The Motorcycle Diaries 9.) CIty of God 10.) Amorres Perros
]]>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:32:44 GMTmercurialTop 511/10/2008 10:32:44 PMMost Accessible Foreign Language Films of the Last 10 Years: 1.) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 2.) Kung-Fu Hustle 3.) Y Tu Mama Tambien 4.) Pan's Labyrinth 5.) Ringu 6.) Talk to Her 7.) The Spanish Apartment 8.) The Motorcycle Diaries 9.) CIty of God 10.) Amorres Perros http://www.spout.com/blogs/indieabby88/archive/2008/8/24/34315.aspx Post By: indieabby88
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Post Date: 8/24/2008 8:42:35 PM
Body: The Year My Parents Went on Vacation is a movie about many things. It's about the process of growing up. It's about soccer, it's about politics, and it's about judaism. Somehow, all of these elements come together to make a touching movie that's just as beautiful and haunting as other South American politically and culturally charged dramas, such as "The Motorcycle Diaries." Our main character is young Mauro, a 12-year-old sent to live with his grandparents when his own parents flee Brazil's totalitarian regime in 1970, under the pretense of "going on vacation." Upon his arrival, Mauro finds that his grandfather has just died, and it's up to an elderly jewish neighbor, Shlomo, to take care of him. Turns out that Mauro's family is supposed to be jewish, too, but the boy was raised outside of the faith, something Shlomo finds to be highly disturbing. Fortunately, during the course of his stay in Sao Paulo, Mauro forms a sort of family with Shlomo, a group of kids in the building, and other members of the synagogue and the neighborhood where they live. The scenes in which the whole community comes together, for bar mitzvahs, funerals and (of course) world cup soccer matches, are particularly touching. It's sweet to see how much the people in the film's neighborhood care about each other and their country. Mauro's confusion over what has happened to his parents is equally touching, although it's more heartbreaking than joyous. He is always hopeful, but continually disappointed, angry and sad. Michel Joelsas, the actor who plays Mauro, is a real find. He's earnest, sweet and utterly convincing. Daniela Piepszyk, who plays Mauro's fiesty friend Hannah, pulls off a clever, charming performance. It's not often I find child actors very praiseworthy, but these kids have really got it going on. Engaging and lovely in every sense of the word, Cao Hamburger's "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation" is a movie that should have gotten a lot more buzz than it did. Apparently it was Brazil's entry for the foreign film academy award, and deservedly so. There are very few movies I've recieved from Spout that I'd want to watch again. "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation" is definitely one that will be making its way back into my DVD player soon.
]]>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:42:35 GMTindieabby88Bloggish review blog8/24/2008 8:42:35 PMThe Year My Parents Went on Vacation is a movie about many things. It's about the process of growing up. It's about soccer, it's about politics, and it's about judaism. Somehow, all of these elements come together to make a touching movie that's just as beautiful and haunting as other South American politically and culturally charged dramas, such as "The Motorcycle Diaries." Our main character is young Mauro, a 12-year-old sent to live with his grandparents when his own parents flee Brazil's totalitarian regime in 1970, under the pretense of "going on vacation." Upon his arrival, Mauro finds that his grandfather has just died, and it's up to an elderly jewish neighbor, Shlomo, to take care of him. Turns out that Mauro's family is supposed to be jewish, too, but the boy was raised outside of the faith, something Shlomo finds to be highly disturbing. Fortunately, during the course of his stay in Sao Paulo, Mauro forms a sort of family with Shlomo, a group of kids in the building, and other members of the synagogue and the neighborhood where they live. The scenes in which the whole community comes together, for bar mitzvahs, funerals and (of course) world cup soccer matches, are particularly touching. It's sweet to see how much the people in the film's neighborhood care about each other and their country. Mauro's confusion over what has happened to his parents is equally touching, although it's more heartbreaking than joyous. He is always hopeful, but continually disappointed, angry and sad. Michel Joelsas, the actor who plays Mauro, is a real find. He's earnest, sweet and utterly convincing. Daniela Piepszyk, who plays Mauro's fiesty friend Hannah, pulls off a clever, charming performance. It's not often I find child actors very praiseworthy, but these kids have really got it going on. Engaging and lovely in every sense of the word, Cao Hamburger's "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation" is a movie that should have gotten a lot more buzz than it did. Apparently it was Brazil's entry for the foreign film academy award, and deservedly so. There are very few movies I've recieved from Spout that I'd want to watch again. "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation" is definitely one that will be making its way back into my DVD player soon. http://www.spout.com/blogs/discernment/archive/2007/10/22/21035.aspx Post By: discernment
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Body: Last year at film camp the director brought this film up, and I was very disinterested in the entire idea of it. Things have definitely changed since then, and tonight I got to share the company of myself and Gael Garcia Bernal. I was completely pleased by every aspect of this film. The conflicts these characters are going through are very profound, and had my mind pondering every aspect. I felt all the acting to be solid and every character to have his/her purpose in each scene. I would just like to point out what I thought was probably my personal favorite part of this movie… The still shot documentary style photographs. They were very powerful, and I felt them to be one of the most important pieces.
]]>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:26:02 GMTdiscernmentdiscernment Blog10/22/2007 1:26:02 AMLast year at film camp the director brought this film up, and I was very disinterested in the entire idea of it. Things have definitely changed since then, and tonight I got to share the company of myself and Gael Garcia Bernal. I was completely pleased by every aspect of this film. The conflicts these characters are going through are very profound, and had my mind pondering every aspect. I felt all the acting to be solid and every character to have his/her purpose in each scene. I would just like to point out what I thought was probably my personal favorite part of this movie&hellip; The still shot documentary style photographs. They were very powerful, and I felt them to be one of the most important pieces. http://www.spout.com/blogs/moviebabe/archive/2007/7/6/13292.aspx Post By: MovieBabe
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Body: By Tricia Olszewski Even revolutionaries pull stupid stunts and cruise for girls at some point in their lives. That’s the gist of Walter Salles’ The Motorcycle Diaries, which focuses on Argentine rebel Che Guevara and the traveling he did in 1952 at the age of 23, when the possibility of scoring a pair of sisters with his buddy was more exciting to him than the emancipation of the proletariat. Back then, Che was merely Ernesto—or “Fuser,” to his best friend, Alberto Granado. When the film begins, Alberto (Rodrigo de la Serna) is a stocky, gregarious 29-year-old biochemist from Buenos Aires who wants to see the rest of Latin America before his 30th birthday. The quieter, asthmatic Ernesto (Gael García Bernal) is about to finish medical school and is just looking for a little adventure before settling into a career as a doctor. So they say goodbye to friends and family and take off for an 8,000-kilometer trek—four months long on paper, eight months in actuality—on a crappy old motorcycle they call “the Mighty One.” The majority of The Motorcycle Diaries, which Salles shot on location in Argentina, Chile, and Peru, is pure feel-good road flick, fashioned from Guevara’s and Granado’s autobiographies by screenwriter Jose Rivera (whose most well-known previous credit is probably TV’s Family Matters). There isn’t a whisper of politics behind their trip, merely a desire to experience life before it’s sucked out of them. While they’re discussing their itinerary, as well as the fact that they’re essentially ditching responsibility, Alberto reassures Ernesto by pointing to an old man nodding off in a coffee shop and asking, “Do you want to end up like that?” As the pair make their way across the continent, they seem more like goofy, foul-mouthed teenagers than men of science as they bicker, scam food and shelter, and are repeatedly thrown off the rickety, overloaded bike, which eventually breaks down for good. Rivera keeps the tone overwhelmingly humorous, with Bernal playing introspective straight man to de la Serna’s smooth-talking skirt-chaser, but, mercifully, he never lets the misadventures descend into Hollywood-style wackiness. The actors’ camaraderie is playful and convincing, and though de la Serna is charged mostly with clowning while Bernal relies on increasingly soulful stares, both believably portray that tricky 20-something stage when glimpses of maturity break through boyishness. Even while Ernesto and Alberto crack jokes, however, cinematographer Eric Gautier renders the Latin American landscape as rather sobering. The guys may be all bravado and high spirits, but they’re no match for the elements they face, which include blinding snow in the Andes, tropical heat in the Amazon, and the arid nothingness of the Atacama Desert. One particularly solemn, gorgeous scene shows the travelers looking over the Incan ruins of Machu Picchu—an event that leads Ernesto to note in his diary, “How is it possible to feel nostalgia for a world I never knew?” It’s during the travelers’ earlier journey through the desert, however, that Ernesto truly begins his subtle shift from fun-loving student to the leader of men he will soon become. As he and Alberto share a fire with a local couple on their way to find jobs at a nearby mine after losing their land, the wealthy Ernesto is startled and somewhat shamed when they ask, “Are you looking for work? No? Then why are you traveling?” From this point on, Ernesto is attuned to his homeland’s great divide between rich and poor, a reality that is handily schematized when he and Alberto volunteer at an Amazonian leper colony that keeps the patients and staff on opposite sides of the river. Those lepers aren’t there by accident, of course. Salles treats his subject with palpable reverence, offering almost no hint of the violent nature Guevara would come to be known for. (At one point, Ernesto does comment that a true revolution would be impossible without guns.) Indeed, there are several moments that the man’s supposed saintliness is a little too literal, such as when he refuses to wear gloves at the leper colony, despite the rules of the nuns in charge, and when he “treats” a sick old woman by laying his hands on her head in exchange for shelter. The film stops short of complete glorification, however, by checking each instance of Ernesto’s do-gooding with a bit of humor. (After his and Ernesto’s clash with the colony’s Mother Superior, for example, Alberto mutters, “I think she wants me.”) And while the hardscrabble concerns of Latin America’s poor are addressed, especially in the film’s last half, its overwhelming feel remains joie de vivre, with Ernesto and Alberto welcomed and cared for in even the most poverty-stricken villages. Near the journey’s end, Ernesto tells Alberto, “All this time we spent on the road, something happened,” and it’s true that when Guevara wrote his journal, he couldn’t have known exactly where that something would lead. But it doesn’t really matter: The foundation of friendship, adventure, and compassion on which The Motorcycle Diaries is built is solid enough that Ernesto’s final statement—“I am not myself anymore”—would sound convincing coming from just about anyone. George Butler’s Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry is much bolder in its deification of a political figure, though Kerry’s transformation seems the opposite of Guevara’s. After watching footage of a young man speaking out with no hesitation against the unjust war killing off his peers, the question you’re left with is, Where is this unflinching leader now? The 92-minute documentary opens with the statement “You can’t understand John Kerry unless you understand how he feels about Vietnam.” Then, over home videos that follow the candidate from childhood to Yale, Kerry’s family, friends, and fellow soldiers talk about his natural “derring-do” and love of his country. Attestations to the young Kerry’s unflagging patriotism are bolstered by video of JFK’s “Ask not what your country can do for you” speech; heartstrings are tugged with the inclusion of coverage of Kennedy’s assassination and Kerry’s reaction to it, as remembered by his college roommates. Soon enough, however, Going Upriver—“loosely based” on Douglas Brinkley’s book Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War—gets back to the matter at hand, detailing Kerry’s service in Vietnam as well as his subsequent role as a spokesperson for Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW). And it’s here that Butler, who began photographing Kerry in 1969, begins piling on. A segment explaining the strategy of swift boats and the danger of serving on them brings commentary from skipper Wade Sanders, who says it was during this duty that he and the other soldiers “began to see the man [Kerry] was.” (Former Green Beret James Rassman appears, too, to repeat his well-publicized belief that if it weren’t for Kerry, he’d probably be dead.) After Kerry gets out of Vietnam, it’s his anti-war efforts that demand kudos: Several soldiers credit him with being central to the movement, and even the chair of the 1971 Senate hearing at which Kerry famously testified on behalf of VVAW sent him off by saying, “I can’t imagine them having elected a better representative.” Naturally, the film is much more compelling when it widens its focus to include the war and the political climate in general—especially when it echoes our country’s present conflict, from Lyndon Johnson’s folksy defense of a U.S. presence in Vietnam to the rant of a former soldier over the “stupid waste of life for questionable objectives that look increasingly inaccurate.” And Butler has gathered a rather impressive range of supporting footage, a mix of his own photos and archival video that gives a comprehensive portrait of what Kerry was all about back then. More important, though, is that despite the shrillness of Butler’s cheerleading, seeing Kerry as a mad-as-hell 27-year-old dynamo makes you believe that all the good words are justified. Poised and articulate, Kerry consistently meets his detractors with reason and conviction, allowing for differing viewpoints but never backing down from his own—he’s passion unscripted, and you can’t help compare the fiery youngster to the hypercareful moderate he appears to be today. Butler even includes a tape of Richard Nixon saying that his administration should “destroy the young demagogue before he becomes another Ralph Nader”—which, at this point, is just about the saddest fate one can imagine for the ex–Lt. John Kerry.
]]>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:12:00 GMTMovieBabeMovieBabe Blog7/6/2007 8:12:00 PM By Tricia Olszewski Even revolutionaries pull stupid stunts and cruise for girls at some point in their lives. That&rsquo;s the gist of Walter Salles&rsquo; The Motorcycle Diaries, which focuses on Argentine rebel Che Guevara and the traveling he did in 1952 at the age of 23, when the possibility of scoring a pair of sisters with his buddy was more exciting to him than the emancipation of the proletariat. Back then, Che was merely Ernesto&mdash;or &ldquo;Fuser,&rdquo; to his best friend, Alberto Granado. When the film begins, Alberto (Rodrigo de la Serna) is a stocky, gregarious 29-year-old biochemist from Buenos Aires who wants to see the rest of Latin America before his 30th birthday. The quieter, asthmatic Ernesto (Gael Garc&iacute;a Bernal) is about to finish medical school and is just looking for a little adventure before settling into a career as a doctor. So they say goodbye to friends and family and take off for an 8,000-kilometer trek&mdash;four months long on paper, eight months in actuality&mdash;on a crappy old motorcycle they call &ldquo;the Mighty One.&rdquo; The majority of The Motorcycle Diaries, which Salles shot on location in Argentina, Chile, and Peru, is pure feel-good road flick, fashioned from Guevara&rsquo;s and Granado&rsquo;s autobiographies by screenwriter Jose Rivera (whose most well-known previous credit is probably TV&rsquo;s Family Matters). There isn&rsquo;t a whisper of politics behind their trip, merely a desire to experience life before it&rsquo;s sucked out of them. While they&rsquo;re discussing their itinerary, as well as the fact that they&rsquo;re essentially ditching responsibility, Alberto reassures Ernesto by pointing to an old man nodding off in a coffee shop and asking, &ldquo;Do you want to end up like that?&rdquo; As the pair make their way across the continent, they seem more like goofy, foul-mouthed teenagers than men of science as they bicker, scam food and shelter, and are repeatedly thrown off the rickety, overloaded bike, which eventually breaks down for good. Rivera keeps the tone overwhelmingly humorous, with Bernal playing introspective straight man to de la Serna&rsquo;s smooth-talking skirt-chaser, but, mercifully, he never lets the misadventures descend into Hollywood-style wackiness. The actors&rsquo; camaraderie is playful and convincing, and though de la Serna is charged mostly with clowning while Bernal relies on increasingly soulful stares, both believably portray that tricky 20-something stage when glimpses of maturity break through boyishness. Even while Ernesto and Alberto crack jokes, however, cinematographer Eric Gautier renders the Latin American landscape as rather sobering. The guys may be all bravado and high spirits, but they&rsquo;re no match for the elements they face, which include blinding snow in the Andes, tropical heat in the Amazon, and the arid nothingness of the Atacama Desert. One particularly solemn, gorgeous scene shows the travelers looking over the Incan ruins of Machu Picchu&mdash;an event that leads Ernesto to note in his diary, &ldquo;How is it possible to feel nostalgia for a world I never knew?&rdquo; It&rsquo;s during the travelers&rsquo; earlier journey through the desert, however, that Ernesto truly begins his subtle shift from fun-loving student to the leader of men he will soon become. As he and Alberto share a fire with a local couple on their way to find jobs at a nearby mine after losing their land, the wealthy Ernesto is startled and somewhat shamed when they ask, &ldquo;Are you looking for work? No? Then why are you traveling?&rdquo; From this point on, Ernesto is attuned to his homeland&rsquo;s great divide between rich and poor, a reality that is handily schematized when he and Alberto volunteer at an Amazonian leper colony that keeps the patients and staff on opposite sides of the river. Those lepers aren&rsquo;t there by accident, of course. Salles treats his subject with palpable reverence, offering almost no hint of the violent nature Guevara would come to be known for. (At one point, Ernesto does comment that a true revolution would be impossible without guns.) Indeed, there are several moments that the man&rsquo;s supposed saintliness is a little too literal, such as when he refuses to wear gloves at the leper colony, despite the rules of the nuns in charge, and when he &ldquo;treats&rdquo; a sick old woman by laying his hands on her head in exchange for shelter. The film stops short of complete glorification, however, by checking each instance of Ernesto&rsquo;s do-gooding with a bit of humor. (After his and Ernesto&rsquo;s clash with the colony&rsquo;s Mother Superior, for example, Alberto mutters, &ldquo;I think she wants me.&rdquo;) And while the hardscrabble concerns of Latin America&rsquo;s poor are addressed, especially in the film&rsquo;s last half, its overwhelming feel remains joie de vivre, with Ernesto and Alberto welcomed and cared for in even the most poverty-stricken villages. Near the journey&rsquo;s end, Ernesto tells Alberto, &ldquo;All this time we spent on the road, something happened,&rdquo; and it&rsquo;s true that when Guevara wrote his journal, he couldn&rsquo;t have known exactly where that something would lead. But it doesn&rsquo;t really matter: The foundation of friendship, adventure, and compassion on which The Motorcycle Diaries is built is solid enough that Ernesto&rsquo;s final statement&mdash;&ldquo;I am not myself anymore&rdquo;&mdash;would sound convincing coming from just about anyone. George Butler&rsquo;s Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry is much bolder in its deification of a political figure, though Kerry&rsquo;s transformation seems the opposite of Guevara&rsquo;s. After watching footage of a young man speaking out with no hesitation against the unjust war killing off his peers, the question you&rsquo;re left with is, Where is this unflinching leader now? The 92-minute documentary opens with the statement &ldquo;You can&rsquo;t understand John Kerry unless you understand how he feels about Vietnam.&rdquo; Then, over home videos that follow the candidate from childhood to Yale, Kerry&rsquo;s family, friends, and fellow soldiers talk about his natural &ldquo;derring-do&rdquo; and love of his country. Attestations to the young Kerry&rsquo;s unflagging patriotism are bolstered by video of JFK&rsquo;s &ldquo;Ask not what your country can do for you&rdquo; speech; heartstrings are tugged with the inclusion of coverage of Kennedy&rsquo;s assassination and Kerry&rsquo;s reaction to it, as remembered by his college roommates. Soon enough, however, Going Upriver&mdash;&ldquo;loosely based&rdquo; on Douglas Brinkley&rsquo;s book Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War&mdash;gets back to the matter at hand, detailing Kerry&rsquo;s service in Vietnam as well as his subsequent role as a spokesperson for Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW). And it&rsquo;s here that Butler, who began photographing Kerry in 1969, begins piling on. A segment explaining the strategy of swift boats and the danger of serving on them brings commentary from skipper Wade Sanders, who says it was during this duty that he and the other soldiers &ldquo;began to see the man [Kerry] was.&rdquo; (Former Green Beret James Rassman appears, too, to repeat his well-publicized belief that if it weren&rsquo;t for Kerry, he&rsquo;d probably be dead.) After Kerry gets out of Vietnam, it&rsquo;s his anti-war efforts that demand kudos: Several soldiers credit him with being central to the movement, and even the chair of the 1971 Senate hearing at which Kerry famously testified on behalf of VVAW sent him off by saying, &ldquo;I can&rsquo;t imagine them having elected a better representative.&rdquo; Naturally, the film is much more compelling when it widens its focus to include the war and the political climate in general&mdash;especially when it echoes our country&rsquo;s present conflict, from Lyndon Johnson&rsquo;s folksy defense of a U.S. presence in Vietnam to the rant of a former soldier over the &ldquo;stupid waste of life for questionable objectives that look increasingly inaccurate.&rdquo; And Butler has gathered a rather impressive range of supporting footage, a mix of his own photos and archival video that gives a comprehensive portrait of what Kerry was all about back then. More important, though, is that despite the shrillness of Butler&rsquo;s cheerleading, seeing Kerry as a mad-as-hell 27-year-old dynamo makes you believe that all the good words are justified. Poised and articulate, Kerry consistently meets his detractors with reason and conviction, allowing for differing viewpoints but never backing down from his own&mdash;he&rsquo;s passion unscripted, and you can&rsquo;t help compare the fiery youngster to the hypercareful moderate he appears to be today. Butler even includes a tape of Richard Nixon saying that his administration should &ldquo;destroy the young demagogue before he becomes another Ralph Nader&rdquo;&mdash;which, at this point, is just about the saddest fate one can imagine for the ex&ndash;Lt. John Kerry. http://www.spout.com/blogs/seektv/archive/2007/6/14/11112.aspx Post By: seektv
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Post Date: 6/14/2007 4:49:53 PM
Body: Hi, I just finished watching the DVD. I was touched and moved,"conmovido", by the movie. I enjoyed very much the Argentinian accent and how they express themselves. So frank, so free, so rich.I loved taking the ride with them. Excellent cinematography. Beautiful images at the end of the film.It's no doubt Gael and Rodrigo portrayed excellent personalities of the "Che" Guevara and Alberto Granado. Very "simpatico" characters. You want to explore with them the unknown and the injustice they come across the road.A friend of mine told me that the director Walter Salles did not reach further on his quest to go deeper as he did with Central Station with the reality of life. But to me, you can understand what is going on in south America. I don't need to go back to the 50's. He can use this movie to reflect what is Latinamerica about.You can sense it right now. But, some of us might turn the heads and close the eyes. It does not matter, with eyes closed, eal life is happening right now. You know it. I know it. And that is why we feel compelled by this movie to identify what some parts of Latinamemica faces.It's a great film. Don't miss it. Rent it. I enjoyed a great film-making.Cut. Print. That's a rap.
]]>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:49:53 GMTseektvseektv Blog6/14/2007 4:49:53 PMHi, I just finished watching the DVD. I was touched and moved,&quot;conmovido&quot;, by the movie. I enjoyed very much the Argentinian accent and how they express themselves. So frank, so free, so rich.I loved taking the ride with them. Excellent cinematography. Beautiful images at the end of the film.It&#39;s no doubt Gael and Rodrigo portrayed excellent personalities of the &quot;Che&quot; Guevara and Alberto Granado. Very &quot;simpatico&quot; characters. You want to explore with them the unknown and the injustice they come across the road.A friend of mine told me that the director Walter Salles did not reach further on his quest to go deeper as he did with Central Station with the reality of life. But to me, you can understand what is going on in south America. I don&#39;t need to go back to the 50&#39;s. He can use this movie to reflect what is Latinamerica about.You can sense it right now. But, some of us might turn the heads and close the eyes. It does not matter, with eyes closed, eal life is happening right now. You know it. I know it. And that is why we feel compelled by this movie to identify what some parts of Latinamemica faces.It&#39;s a great film. Don&#39;t miss it. Rent it. I enjoyed a great film-making.Cut. Print. That&#39;s a rap. http://www.spout.com/blogs/azguki/archive/2007/5/10/8496.aspx Post By: azguki
Post To: azguki Blog
Post Date: 5/10/2007 4:16:31 AM
Body: What a beautifully crafted film! Having a bit of a travel bug myself, I thought the cinematography alone was reason enough to see this picture. Add a little of the developmental experiences of a young man's life (and what an extraordinary life it turned out to be in this case!) and you have a truly engaging and pleasant film experience. A friend I talked to after just seeing this movie, because he had made a trek to Macchu Picchu himself, told me that he preferred the book (you'll have to excuse him, he's a self-proclaimed poet). I can't imagine the book accurately capturing the sheer intense awe that is Macchu Picchu (or the South American west coast). Gael Garcia Bernal is going to be one of the biggest stars of the next decade. In any film I've ever seen him in, it is totally impossible to take your eyes off of him. Geez, I wish I was gay!
]]>Thu, 10 May 2007 08:16:31 GMTazgukiazguki Blog5/10/2007 4:16:31 AM What a beautifully crafted film! Having a bit of a travel bug myself, I thought the cinematography alone was reason enough to see this picture. Add a little of the developmental experiences of a young man&#39;s life (and what an extraordinary life it turned out to be in this case!) and you have a truly engaging and pleasant film experience. A friend I talked to after just seeing this movie, because he had made a trek to Macchu Picchu himself, told me that he preferred the book (you&#39;ll have to excuse him, he&#39;s a self-proclaimed poet). I can&#39;t imagine the book accurately capturing the sheer intense awe that is Macchu Picchu (or the South American west coast). Gael Garcia Bernal is going to be one of the biggest stars of the next decade. In any film I&#39;ve ever seen him in, it is totally impossible to take your eyes off of him. Geez, I wish I was gay! http://www.spout.com/blogs/jimbell/archive/2007/4/15/7102.aspx Post By: JimBell
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Post Date: 4/15/2007 4:48:00 PM
Body: Motorcycle Diaries (2004; Spanish) is the story of “Che” Guevera and his friend De La Serna’s trip from Argentina to Venezuela in 1952. The movie is a brilliant and subtle portrait of an introverted intellectual who saw the world, processed it quietly and intelligently, and came out a Communist revolutionary in Cuba and a poster idol among rebellious American teenagers of the 60s. If you do not like young people, if you hate Latinos, if you find introverts boring, if you think idealism is passé, if you shun lepers, if you suspect males, and if you condemn motorcycles and hitch-hiking as dangerous nonsense, you will object to this movie. Otherwise, prepare to enjoy a wonderful recreation of the a year in the youth of one of the West’s notorious figures. The acting by Gael Garcia Bernel, as Ernesto Guevera, is superb—his intense, intelligent gaze makes an introvert somehow interesting. Rodrigo de la Serna plays his buddy, Alberto Granada (he is still alive and living in Cuba). Their heads filled with western knowledge of Greece and Rome and modern medicine, the two set out on an old Norton 500 motorcycle to see South America. They leave a structured, predictable society and enter a strange land where true loves are unfaithful, where Communists and homeless Indians walk down the dusty roads, and where the old oil-guzzling Norton reaches its limit and walking and hitching are the alternatives. Ernesto and his best friend go from loving Argentina to loving South America, go from worrying about medical courses and lab work to feeling the pain of disenfranchised people. This is part of a coming-of-age tale--Ernesto and Alberto before they were movers and shakers.Jim Bell
]]>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 20:48:00 GMTJimBellJimBell Blog4/15/2007 4:48:00 PMMotorcycle Diaries (2004; Spanish) is the story of &ldquo;Che&rdquo; Guevera and his friend De La Serna&rsquo;s trip from Argentina to Venezuela in 1952. The movie is a brilliant and subtle portrait of an introverted intellectual who saw the world, processed it quietly and intelligently, and came out a Communist revolutionary in Cuba and a poster idol among rebellious American teenagers of the 60s. If you do not like young people, if you hate Latinos, if you find introverts boring, if you think idealism is pass&eacute;, if you shun lepers, if you suspect males, and if you condemn motorcycles and hitch-hiking as dangerous nonsense, you will object to this movie. Otherwise, prepare to enjoy a wonderful recreation of the a year in the youth of one of the West&rsquo;s notorious figures. The acting by Gael Garcia Bernel, as Ernesto Guevera, is superb&mdash;his intense, intelligent gaze makes an introvert somehow interesting. Rodrigo de la Serna plays his buddy, Alberto Granada (he is still alive and living in Cuba). Their heads filled with western knowledge of Greece and Rome and modern medicine, the two set out on an old Norton 500 motorcycle to see South America. They leave a structured, predictable society and enter a strange land where true loves are unfaithful, where Communists and homeless Indians walk down the dusty roads, and where the old oil-guzzling Norton reaches its limit and walking and hitching are the alternatives. Ernesto and his best friend go from loving Argentina to loving South America, go from worrying about medical courses and lab work to feeling the pain of disenfranchised people. This is part of a coming-of-age tale--Ernesto and Alberto before they were movers and shakers.Jim Bell http://www.spout.com/groups/Totally_Over_rated/Your_overrated_list/170/4033/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
Post To: Totally Over-rated
Post Date: 12/5/2006 4:50:55 PM
Body: Swingers's detail pageI thought I wouldn't like participating in this group at first because it get's frustrating complaining about movies, but I can't seem to hold myself back. Puhnner, you asked me to list some of my overrated movies, referring to my definition of overrated by ratio. Well I'm not sure if this is going by the same criteria, but I've come up with a list from another source. I also rate movies at the website movielens. It will give you recommendations based on your ratings and whatnot. It also gives some interesting statistics. For one, it tells me which movies I have rated the lowest compared to the average rating on their site. So I have looked at that list and picked several of them. The thing about this method is that I am not using what my impression of the ammount of acclaim a movie has received for the ratio but rather what the ammount of acclaim a website thinks a movie has based on the votes from it's users. Some of these movies I have not seen for a long time, so my feelings about them are not as immediate in my memory, but maybe it will give some dicussion. I Am SamShrekThe CoolerCrash (2005)In AmericaSelenaMillion Dollar BabyThe Wedding SingerChungking ExpressThe Lion KingEmpire RecordsAnything ElseMeet The ParentsTrue LiesBreathlessThe Nutty Professor (1996)Bad Boys IIJules and JimOpen WaterWhale RiderAmerican PieToy Story10 Things I Hate About YouSwingersGrand CanyonRuthless PeopleHappy, TexasWhat the #$*! Do We Know?!BanditsA Fish Called WandaThe Whole Nine YardsHigh FidelityMen In Black IIVanilla SkyE.T.The GameThe Truman ShowLiar LiarFahrenheit 9/11CollateralMeet the FockersField of DreamsLawrence of ArabiaBig DaddyThe GraduateHaiku TunnelAlien Vs. PredatorArlington RoadLa Femme NikitaGladiatorThe Motorcycle Diaries Also, I have added the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind to the overrated list for this group. I also want to say I often hope my list in this area will stay short. Many of these movies I have had an impression from the start that I would not like it. I usually have a good sense ahead of time about what movies I will like more or less. I can't tell exactly how much I will like a movie, but I'm usually pretty close on the general range of how much I may like it. Most of these movies I was coerced into seeing. Some of you may argue that the fact that I told myself I didn't want to see it in the first place may have had an effect on how much I liked it. Such as if I go in telling myself I won't like it, I'll probably find more reasons not to like it. That may be true to some extent, but not enough to really effect my decision that much. Go ahead and ask me about these selections and make a list of your own using whatever criteria you feel is appropriate.
]]>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 21:50:55 GMTRisseladaTotally Over-rated12/5/2006 4:50:55 PM<a href='http://www.spout.com/films/Swingers/93403/default.aspx'>Swingers's detail page</a>I thought I wouldn't like participating in this group at first because it get's frustrating complaining about movies, but I can't seem to hold myself back. Puhnner, you asked me to list some of my overrated movies, referring to my definition of overrated by ratio. Well I'm not sure if this is going by the same criteria, but I've come up with a list from another source. I also rate movies at the website movielens. It will give you recommendations based on your ratings and whatnot. It also gives some interesting statistics. For one, it tells me which movies I have rated the lowest compared to the average rating on their site. So I have looked at that list and picked several of them. The thing about this method is that I am not using what my impression of the ammount of acclaim a movie has received for the ratio but rather what the ammount of acclaim a website thinks a movie has based on the votes from it's users. Some of these movies I have not seen for a long time, so my feelings about them are not as immediate in my memory, but maybe it will give some dicussion. I Am SamShrekThe CoolerCrash (2005)In AmericaSelenaMillion Dollar BabyThe Wedding SingerChungking ExpressThe Lion KingEmpire RecordsAnything ElseMeet The ParentsTrue LiesBreathlessThe Nutty Professor (1996)Bad Boys IIJules and JimOpen WaterWhale RiderAmerican PieToy Story10 Things I Hate About YouSwingersGrand CanyonRuthless PeopleHappy, TexasWhat the #$*! Do We Know?!BanditsA Fish Called WandaThe Whole Nine YardsHigh FidelityMen In Black IIVanilla SkyE.T.The GameThe Truman ShowLiar LiarFahrenheit 9/11CollateralMeet the FockersField of DreamsLawrence of ArabiaBig DaddyThe GraduateHaiku TunnelAlien Vs. PredatorArlington RoadLa Femme NikitaGladiatorThe Motorcycle Diaries Also, I have added the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind to the overrated list for this group. I also want to say I often hope my list in this area will stay short. Many of these movies I have had an impression from the start that I would not like it. I usually have a good sense ahead of time about what movies I will like more or less. I can't tell exactly how much I will like a movie, but I'm usually pretty close on the general range of how much I may like it. Most of these movies I was coerced into seeing. Some of you may argue that the fact that I told myself I didn't want to see it in the first place may have had an effect on how much I liked it. Such as if I go in telling myself I won't like it, I'll probably find more reasons not to like it. That may be true to some extent, but not enough to really effect my decision that much. Go ahead and ask me about these selections and make a list of your own using whatever criteria you feel is appropriate. http://www.spout.com/blogs/kim_kelly/archive/2006/11/16/3709.aspx Post By: Kim_Kelly
Post To: Kim_Kelly Blog
Post Date: 11/16/2006 12:43:00 PM
Body: ... but not a full picture of Che's life as an activist. I know a lot of people who didn't like this film because it didn't offer a complete history, but I thought the movie, if taken on it's own merits, was gorgeous, well-acted; a thoroughly enjoyable story.
]]>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:43:00 GMTKim_KellyKim_Kelly Blog11/16/2006 12:43:00 PM... but not a full picture of Che's life as an activist. I know a lot of people who didn't like this film because it didn't offer a complete history, but I thought the movie, if taken on it's own merits, was gorgeous, well-acted; a thoroughly enjoyable story. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/comingofage/MemberTagFilms.aspxcomingofage
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