list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around Moby Dick on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/Moby_Dick/22964/default.aspx Title: Moby Dick
Year: 1998
Director: John Huston
Plot: Previous film versions of Moby Dick insisted upon including such imbecilities as romantic subplots and happy endings. John Huston's 1956 Moby Dick remains admirably faithful to its source. "Call me Ishmael" declares itinerant whaler Richard Basehart as the opening credits fade. Though slightly intimidated by the sermon delivered by Father Mapple (Orson Welles in a brilliant one-take cameo), who warns that those who challenge the sea are in danger of losing their souls, Ishmael nonetheless signs on to the Pequod, a whaling ship captained by the brooding, one-legged Ahab (Gregory Peck). For lo these many years, Ahab has been engaged in an obsessive pursuit of Moby Dick, the great white whale to whom he lost his leg. Ahab's dementia spreads throughout the crew members, who maniacally join their captain in his final, fatal attack upon the elusive, enigmatic Moby Dick. Screenwriter Ray Bradbury masterfully captures the allegorical elements in the Herman Melville original without sacrificing any of the film's entertainment value (Bradbury suffered his own "great white whale" in the form of director Huston, who sadistically ran roughshod over the sensitive author throughout the film).Cinematographer Oswald Morris' washed-out color scheme brilliantly underlines the foredoomed bleakness of the story. Moby Dick's one major shortcoming is its obviously artificial whale-but try telling a real whale to stay within camera range and hit its marks. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide
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]]>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:40:19 GMTMoby Dick1998John HustonPrevious film versions of Moby Dick insisted upon including such imbecilities as romantic subplots and happy endings. <a href="/players/P____95260/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Huston</a>'s 1956 Moby Dick remains admirably faithful to its source. "Call me Ishmael" declares itinerant whaler <a href="/players/P_____4405/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Richard Basehart</a> as the opening credits fade. Though slightly intimidated by the sermon delivered by Father Mapple (<a href="/players/P___116368/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Orson Welles</a> in a brilliant one-take cameo), who warns that those who challenge the sea are in danger of losing their souls, Ishmael nonetheless signs on to the <I>Pequod</I>, a whaling ship captained by the brooding, one-legged Ahab (<a href="/players/P____55747/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Gregory Peck</a>). For lo these many years, Ahab has been engaged in an obsessive pursuit of Moby Dick, the great white whale to whom he lost his leg. Ahab's dementia spreads throughout the crew members, who maniacally join their captain in his final, fatal attack upon the elusive, enigmatic Moby Dick. Screenwriter Ray Bradbury masterfully captures the allegorical elements in the Herman Melville original without sacrificing any of the film's entertainment value (Bradbury suffered his own "great white whale" in the form of director Huston, who sadistically ran roughshod over the sensitive author throughout the film).Cinematographer <a href="/players/P___103575/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Oswald Morris</a>' washed-out color scheme brilliantly underlines the foredoomed bleakness of the story. Moby Dick's one major shortcoming is its obviously artificial whale-but try telling a real whale to stay within camera range and hit its marks. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide4Slightly Tagged (1-5)5164http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/u41099ranoo.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Moby_Dick/22964/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_October_6_Revenge/625/36425/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Dr_Gor
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Post Date: 10/16/2008 10:15:44 PM
Body: [quote user="unclefestering"] [quote user="Dr_Gor"] Jaws : The original. This was loosely based on the above story and is very much about revenge. Quint has dedicated his life to killing every shark he sees in revenge for the horrors that he endured following the sinking of the USS Indianapolis. Chief Brody is seeking revenge against the shark that terrorized his community and ate some it's citizens. < GOR > [/quote] Isn't Jaws based on a series of shark attacks at the Jersey Shore during the summer of 1911? All the attacks were traced back to the same Great White. [/quote] You are absolutely correct. JAWS was based on the 1911 shark attacks as well as Moby Dick . With a little bit of the USS Indianapolis story thrown in for good measure... What I find as interesting is that both the "1911" story and the "Indianapolis" story are featured prominently within the actual movie but "Moby Dick" is not... I mean let's face it.... JAWS is basically a remake of Moby Dick . Nonetheless it is STILL one of my favorite movies and the one I have seen MORE times than any other! No Kidding! I have seen JAWS more times than I have EVER seen any other movie! I also read the novel before it was a movie! ( "caveman", remember?) ... By the way, Moby Dick was actually based on a true story in which a giant white whale actually rammed and sank a whaling ship and killed ALMOST everyone on board! Betcha didn't know that one! < GOR >
]]>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:15:44 GMTDr_GorWeekly Theme10/16/2008 10:15:44 PM[quote user="unclefestering"] [quote user="Dr_Gor"] Jaws : The original. This was loosely based on the above story and is very much about revenge. Quint has dedicated his life to killing every shark he sees in revenge for the horrors that he endured following the sinking of the USS Indianapolis. Chief Brody is seeking revenge against the shark that terrorized his community and ate some it's citizens. &lt; GOR &gt; [/quote] Isn't Jaws based on a series of shark attacks at the Jersey Shore during the summer of 1911? All the attacks were traced back to the same Great White. [/quote] You are absolutely correct. JAWS was based on the 1911 shark attacks as well as Moby Dick . With a little bit of the USS Indianapolis story thrown in for good measure... What I find as interesting is that both the "1911" story and the "Indianapolis" story are featured prominently within the actual movie but "Moby Dick" is not... I mean let's face it.... JAWS is basically a remake of Moby Dick . Nonetheless it is STILL one of my favorite movies and the one I have seen MORE times than any other! No Kidding! I have seen JAWS more times than I have EVER seen any other movie! I also read the novel before it was a movie! ( "caveman", remember?) ... By the way, Moby Dick was actually based on a true story in which a giant white whale actually rammed and sank a whaling ship and killed ALMOST everyone on board! Betcha didn't know that one! &lt; GOR &gt; http://www.spout.com/blogs/jjgittes/archive/2008/10/8/36057.aspx Post By: jjgittes
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Post Date: 10/8/2008 7:58:02 PM
Body: A month or so ago, in my blog of LUST FOR LIFE on Reel 13, I mentioned how I did a study on fifties films for an essay I was working on. I also mentioned that I listed LUST FOR LIFE as 10 on my top ten list for 1956. Well, this week's Reel 13 Classic – MOBY DICK – actually was my 9 film of that year.In many ways, it's the perfect story for director John Huston. It's a very masculine story and also manages to deal with some of Huston's favorite themes – greed, revenge and obsession (as the story goes, Huston himself, became fascinated with hunting elephants in Africa during the shooting of THE AFRICAN QUEEN five years earlier). So, it's no wonder that MOBY DICK is as successful as it is on screen.Really, in my mind, it's the details that make the movie work. Huston does a great job of using cutaways to show the smaller aspects of whaling and the whaling community. He shows you how it was done (its accuracy is debatable, but I certainly don't know any better, so I'll take the film at it's word) and what it was like, which gives the film a vitality and sense of realism that you wouldn't expect from such a period piece. Additionally, Huston smartly employs a quick pace and strong, stark angles of the camera to add to both the tension and the excitement.Sadly, Gregory Peck is not very convincing as the infamous and complicated Captain Ahab. His body language is forced and not very believable, which can also be said of his verbal language. He, and many of the other actors, struggle with the old nature of the dialogue. They just can't manage to make it sound natural. Similarly, the mystical elements in the film are also a bit awkward (Several soothsayers and St. Elmo's fire are very weird moments), but seem to be in keeping with the period. Perhaps, here, it is Huston who struggles to translate a dated element of the narrative. Along the same lines, Richard Basehart's voiceover as Ishmael is cinematically tiresome, but I suppose it's there to celebrate the prose of Melville (honestly, I think all that we needed was "Call me Ishmael" to open the film and then he could have shut up for the rest of the movie). None of these flaws, however, manage to sink the film altogether. At the heart of the film is a great adventure story by Melville that manages to also underscore many elements of human nature including our innate desire to achieve – to reach higher, go farther and accomplish more than the generation before. It also displays the arrogance of humans to consistently assume that we are always the most intelligent and dominant species on the planet. Huston uses his vast knowledge of film form to cover all this ground as well as to make this world as palpable as he can and the results are very worthwhile. (For more information on this or any other Reel 13 film, check out www.reel13.org)
]]>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:58:02 GMTjjgittesjjgittes Blog10/8/2008 7:58:02 PMA month or so ago, in my blog of LUST FOR LIFE on Reel 13, I mentioned how I did a study on fifties films for an essay I was working on. I also mentioned that I listed LUST FOR LIFE as 10 on my top ten list for 1956. Well, this week's Reel 13 Classic &ndash; MOBY DICK &ndash; actually was my 9 film of that year.In many ways, it's the perfect story for director John Huston. It's a very masculine story and also manages to deal with some of Huston's favorite themes &ndash; greed, revenge and obsession (as the story goes, Huston himself, became fascinated with hunting elephants in Africa during the shooting of THE AFRICAN QUEEN five years earlier). So, it's no wonder that MOBY DICK is as successful as it is on screen.Really, in my mind, it's the details that make the movie work. Huston does a great job of using cutaways to show the smaller aspects of whaling and the whaling community. He shows you how it was done (its accuracy is debatable, but I certainly don't know any better, so I'll take the film at it's word) and what it was like, which gives the film a vitality and sense of realism that you wouldn't expect from such a period piece. Additionally, Huston smartly employs a quick pace and strong, stark angles of the camera to add to both the tension and the excitement.Sadly, Gregory Peck is not very convincing as the infamous and complicated Captain Ahab. His body language is forced and not very believable, which can also be said of his verbal language. He, and many of the other actors, struggle with the old nature of the dialogue. They just can't manage to make it sound natural. Similarly, the mystical elements in the film are also a bit awkward (Several soothsayers and St. Elmo's fire are very weird moments), but seem to be in keeping with the period. Perhaps, here, it is Huston who struggles to translate a dated element of the narrative. Along the same lines, Richard Basehart's voiceover as Ishmael is cinematically tiresome, but I suppose it's there to celebrate the prose of Melville (honestly, I think all that we needed was "Call me Ishmael" to open the film and then he could have shut up for the rest of the movie). None of these flaws, however, manage to sink the film altogether. At the heart of the film is a great adventure story by Melville that manages to also underscore many elements of human nature including our innate desire to achieve &ndash; to reach higher, go farther and accomplish more than the generation before. It also displays the arrogance of humans to consistently assume that we are always the most intelligent and dominant species on the planet. Huston uses his vast knowledge of film form to cover all this ground as well as to make this world as palpable as he can and the results are very worthwhile. (For more information on this or any other Reel 13 film, check out www.reel13.org) http://www.spout.com/groups/HORROR_MOVIES_101/Re_Screams_in_the_Movie_Theater/222/26848/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
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Post Date: 4/2/2008 12:16:02 AM
Body: [quote user="SkyPilot"][quote user="Risselada"]Whale in space? Maybe you are thinking of Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy.[/quote]Ha, I forgot about the whale suddenly falling through the air. But that's not it. I have the mental image of an illustrated whale. Maybe it was in a Marvel comic that took place in outer space (do Adam Warlock and Dr. Strange come across this?) or that Star Fox exclusive I was thinking of.Have whales ever been demonized or monster-ized in a movie (besides Pinocchio and Moby-Dick)? [/quote] Found it! The Acanti were the race of space traveling whales that the Brood controlled and used as space crafts to travel around the universe. I was an X-Men freak growing up and knew I had seen what you were talking about before.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AcantiUnless of course there is yet another space traveling whale somewhere out there.
]]>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:16:02 GMTmercurialHORROR MOVIES 1014/2/2008 12:16:02 AM[quote user="SkyPilot"][quote user="Risselada"]Whale in space? Maybe you are thinking of Hitchhicker&#39;s Guide to the Galaxy.[/quote]Ha, I forgot about the whale suddenly falling through the air. But that&#39;s not it. I have the mental image of an illustrated whale. Maybe it was in a Marvel comic that took place in outer space (do Adam Warlock and Dr. Strange come across this?) or that Star Fox exclusive I was thinking of.Have whales ever been demonized or monster-ized in a movie (besides Pinocchio and Moby-Dick)? [/quote] Found it! The Acanti were the race of space traveling whales that the Brood controlled and used as space crafts to travel around the universe. I was an X-Men freak growing up and knew I had seen what you were talking about before.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AcantiUnless of course there is yet another space traveling whale somewhere out there. http://www.spout.com/groups/HORROR_MOVIES_101/Re_Screams_in_the_Movie_Theater/222/26831/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: SkyPilot
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Post Date: 4/1/2008 3:57:42 PM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"]Whale in space? Maybe you are thinking of Hitchhicker's Guide to the Galaxy.[/quote]Ha, I forgot about the whale suddenly falling through the air. But that's not it. I have the mental image of an illustrated whale. Maybe it was in a Marvel comic that took place in outer space (do Adam Warlock and Dr. Strange come across this?) or that Star Fox exclusive I was thinking of.Have whales ever been demonized or monster-ized in a movie (besides Pinocchio and Moby-Dick)?
]]>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:57:42 GMTSkyPilotHORROR MOVIES 1014/1/2008 3:57:42 PM[quote user="Risselada"]Whale in space? Maybe you are thinking of Hitchhicker&#39;s Guide to the Galaxy.[/quote]Ha, I forgot about the whale suddenly falling through the air. But that&#39;s not it. I have the mental image of an illustrated whale. Maybe it was in a Marvel comic that took place in outer space (do Adam Warlock and Dr. Strange come across this?) or that Star Fox exclusive I was thinking of.Have whales ever been demonized or monster-ized in a movie (besides Pinocchio and Moby-Dick)? http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Film_Library/Re_Movies_that_surpassed_the_book/512/26063/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Dr_Gor
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Post Date: 3/10/2008 7:55:41 PM
Body: The first one that pops into my mind is JAWS . The Peter Benchley novel was quite popular among us school-kids in about the 5th or 6th grade... a couple of years before the movie came out... It was quite a bit different from the movie. There were some extremely nasty sexuall parts which led me to believe that none of the teachers or adults had read this novel, as we were all allowed to read it sitting at our desks... (same with The Exorcist !) ... (and Helter Skelter !) ... Anyhow, in the novel, Chief Brody's wife, Ellen, has a very brief but torrid affair with Matt Hooper (!) , from the time he arrives on the Island untill the three men get in the boat together... Chief Brody finds out about this affair just before the men set sail... which leads to much tention aboard the ship tosay the least... Thankfully, all of this is missing from the movie... Also, the ending was quite different and the character of 'Quint' was quite a bit different as well... He was much more like 'Ahab' in the novel and the ending was quite a bit different as well, it was much more of a blatant rip-off Moby Dick ... There was no exploding shark... Anyhow, this was one of my favorite novels and I read it more than once before the movie came out.... The movie was far superior to the novel! I think anyone who has seen it will know what I'm talking about. Another that leaps to mind is the 1939 version of Victor Hugo's Hunchback Of Notre Dame ...
]]>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:55:41 GMTDr_GorThe Film Library3/10/2008 7:55:41 PM The first one that pops into my mind is JAWS . The Peter Benchley novel was quite popular among us school-kids in about the 5th or 6th grade... a couple of years before the movie came out... It was quite a bit different from the movie. There were some extremely nasty sexuall parts which led me to believe that none of the teachers or adults had read this novel, as we were all allowed to read it sitting at our desks... (same with The Exorcist !) ... (and Helter Skelter !) ... Anyhow, in the novel, Chief Brody&#39;s wife, Ellen, has a very brief but torrid affair with Matt Hooper (!) , from the time he arrives on the Island untill the three men get in the boat together... Chief Brody finds out about this affair just before the men set sail... which leads to much tention aboard the ship tosay the least... Thankfully, all of this is missing from the movie... Also, the ending was quite different and the character of &#39;Quint&#39; was quite a bit different as well... He was much more like &#39;Ahab&#39; in the novel and the ending was quite a bit different as well, it was much more of a blatant rip-off Moby Dick ... There was no exploding shark... Anyhow, this was one of my favorite novels and I read it more than once before the movie came out.... The movie was far superior to the novel! I think anyone who has seen it will know what I&#39;m talking about. Another that leaps to mind is the 1939 version of Victor Hugo&#39;s Hunchback Of Notre Dame ... http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Film_Library/They_Got_It_Right_somehow_but_not_the_book/512/22511/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Puhnner
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Post Date: 12/3/2007 2:57:25 PM
Body: Here are a few and I am not sure if this is the right discussion, but since I do not think that the film followed the book or was particularly faithfull, but nevertheless, I enjoyed the film; perhaps this should be a separate discussion threadSin CityA History of ViolenceRashomon ( this is not a book, but a story )The Big Sleep ( Bogart version )LA ConfidentialThe GetawayMoby DickBilly BuddThe Thin Red LineNo Country for Old MenMystic RiverChildren of Men ( a very different milieu, story framing, and ending; both endings are equally fitting for the respective piece)The Short Timers ( Full Metal Jacket )oh and of course:Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep ( Blade Runner )The Dexter Series ( however not a film, a television series )I would love to see 'Out' from the novel by Natsuo Kirino, but it does not seem to be availableI understand the disappointment with Breakfast of Champions, however even though I loved the book, especially the drawings, I really liked the film too.god, there are so many more, I have already posted on other discussions...many, many that I would love to see into films...I have not seen 'All the Pretty Horses' either but want to even though I view it as the weakest of the Cormac McCarthy Border Trilogy.I am also interested in seeing Gone Baby, Gone as for an abomination of a very good book with a much subtler and involved tale, Taking Lives....oh woe and ruination. I suspect that I am Legend will not fare well either after reading it ( I do love Last Man on Earth though )I have not seen it yet but, I expect little fromCharlie Wilson's War
]]>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:57:25 GMTPuhnnerThe Film Library12/3/2007 2:57:25 PMHere are a few and I am not sure if this is the right discussion, but since I do not think that the film followed the book or was particularly faithfull, but nevertheless, I enjoyed the film; perhaps this should be a separate discussion threadSin CityA History of ViolenceRashomon ( this is not a book, but a story )The Big Sleep ( Bogart version )LA ConfidentialThe GetawayMoby DickBilly BuddThe Thin Red LineNo Country for Old MenMystic RiverChildren of Men ( a very different milieu, story framing, and ending; both endings are equally fitting for the respective piece)The Short Timers ( Full Metal Jacket )oh and of course:Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep ( Blade Runner )The Dexter Series ( however not a film, a television series )I would love to see &#39;Out&#39; from the novel by Natsuo Kirino, but it does not seem to be availableI understand the disappointment with Breakfast of Champions, however even though I loved the book, especially the drawings, I really liked the film too.god, there are so many more, I have already posted on other discussions...many, many that I would love to see into films...I have not seen &#39;All the Pretty Horses&#39; either but want to even though I view it as the weakest of the Cormac McCarthy Border Trilogy.I am also interested in seeing Gone Baby, Gone as for an abomination of a very good book with a much subtler and involved tale, Taking Lives....oh woe and ruination. I suspect that I am Legend will not fare well either after reading it ( I do love Last Man on Earth though )I have not seen it yet but, I expect little fromCharlie Wilson&#39;s War http://www.spout.com/groups/The_Film_Library/Re_Re_Re_They_Got_It_Right/512/22509/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 12/3/2007 2:09:53 PM
Body: [quote user="TheWorkingDead"]Jurassic Park was a good one. Michael Chricton gets a lot of respect from me for being a really smart dude, even if I don't like all of his books. He's really good at writing blockbuster movies in novel form, and I usually enjoy that. Eaters of the Dead(The 13th Warrior)is a really good example. I love that book, it's such a great read. The movie disappointed me, but that was because I was expecting the book. If i checked it out again I'd probably enjoy myself. I read that book when I was younger, and, due to the author's foreward, thought it was based on true events. Chricton spends a lot of time in the beginning setting up the history of the documents that formed the basis of Eaters of the Dead, admitting to embellishing parts of it where text was missing or needed some spicing up, but saying it was mostly true. And then the novel has all of those historical/anthropological footnotes explaining the customs of the vikings and arabs. But then, to my embarrasment, a later edition was released and he admitted he made it up as part of a bet, that he couldn't write a Beowulf style book and have it become interesting and popular. [/quote]Have you read or seen Sphere? That's a fantastic book! I actually didn't think the movie was that bad either, but it can't come close to the book.I think there are a few warring phenomena going on when I watch a movie adapted from a book I love when trying to evaluate how much I love the movie.For one I will give the movie a lot of credit that it doesn't deserve just because it's giving me images from a book I love. I feel like even when the movie skips or leaves out tons of information or scenes in the book. I still see all of that information as being a part of the movie. Rather I project my love for the book onto the movie and give it a context that I love without the movie having to do any real work at all. So in that way I am giving the movie positive points it probably doesn't deserve.At the same time, if there are any differences in the movie from the book that seem to undermind or contradict something I love about the book then I will often count that as a strike against the movie. Even if these changes are more appropriate or essential for creating a good, original, self-contained movie experience even for people who haven't read the book, it is hard for me to evaluate it outside of the context of my thinking about the book. In this way I am giving the movie negative points it probably doesn't deserve.Sometimes I wonder if it's better to see the movie before the book or not.
]]>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:09:53 GMTRisseladaThe Film Library12/3/2007 2:09:53 PM[quote user="TheWorkingDead"]Jurassic Park was a good one. Michael Chricton gets a lot of respect from me for being a really smart dude, even if I don&#39;t like all of his books. He&#39;s really good at writing blockbuster movies in novel form, and I usually enjoy that. Eaters of the Dead(The 13th Warrior)is a really good example. I love that book, it&#39;s such a great read. The movie disappointed me, but that was because I was expecting the book. If i checked it out again I&#39;d probably enjoy myself. I read that book when I was younger, and, due to the author&#39;s foreward, thought it was based on true events. Chricton spends a lot of time in the beginning setting up the history of the documents that formed the basis of Eaters of the Dead, admitting to embellishing parts of it where text was missing or needed some spicing up, but saying it was mostly true. And then the novel has all of those historical/anthropological footnotes explaining the customs of the vikings and arabs. But then, to my embarrasment, a later edition was released and he admitted he made it up as part of a bet, that he couldn&#39;t write a Beowulf style book and have it become interesting and popular. [/quote]Have you read or seen Sphere? That&#39;s a fantastic book! I actually didn&#39;t think the movie was that bad either, but it can&#39;t come close to the book.I think there are a few warring phenomena going on when I watch a movie adapted from a book I love when trying to evaluate how much I love the movie.For one I will give the movie a lot of credit that it doesn&#39;t deserve just because it&#39;s giving me images from a book I love. I feel like even when the movie skips or leaves out tons of information or scenes in the book. I still see all of that information as being a part of the movie. Rather I project my love for the book onto the movie and give it a context that I love without the movie having to do any real work at all. So in that way I am giving the movie positive points it probably doesn&#39;t deserve.At the same time, if there are any differences in the movie from the book that seem to undermind or contradict something I love about the book then I will often count that as a strike against the movie. Even if these changes are more appropriate or essential for creating a good, original, self-contained movie experience even for people who haven&#39;t read the book, it is hard for me to evaluate it outside of the context of my thinking about the book. In this way I am giving the movie negative points it probably doesn&#39;t deserve.Sometimes I wonder if it&#39;s better to see the movie before the book or not. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/revenge/MemberTagFilms.aspxrevenge
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