Manhunter's Recent Activity - Spout

Film:Manhunter

Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:01:17 GMT

Title: Manhunter
Year: 1986
Director: Michael Mann
Plot: Red Dragon, the Thomas Harris novel that introduced serial killer Hannibal Lecter to the world, was adapted for the screen by Michael Mann as Manhunter. Ace criminal profiler Will Graham (William Petersen) is very good at his job because he has the ability to make himself think like the killers he tracks. Will has been in retirement since catching Hannibal "the Cannibal" Lecter (Brian Cox), as being inside that particular deranged mind caused Will to have a breakdown. Will's boss Jack Crawford (Dennis Farina visits Will at his home, showing him pictures from a murder scene and asking for his help in catching a new killer they have dubbed "the Tooth Fairy" (Tom Noonan). In order to test his mental strength, Will visits Hannibal in his prison cell. Adding to the already substantial mental stress Will experiences when he returns to the job are nosy tabloid reporter Freddy Lounds (Stephen Lang), as well as Hannibal's attempts at seeking revenge through the Tooth Fairy. After two additional films that featured Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs and Hannibal) became box-office blockbusters, Manhunter was re-made as Red Dragon starring Hopkins and Edward Norton as Will Graham. ~ Perry Seibert, All Movie Guide
Times Tagged: 11
Number of Lists: 24
Number of blog posts: 4
Number of discussion threads: 7
SpoutRating: 3

Spout Post: Musical Actors: Five Recastings That’ll Make You Look Twice

Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:01:17 GMT

Post By: SpoutBlog
Post To: SpoutBlog on spout.com
Post Date: 10/15/2008 10:01:17 AM
Body: Forget about Don Cheadle replacing Terence Howard as James Rhodes / War Machine in Iron Man II, which smells a lot like the “we’ll threaten to replace Tobey Maguire with Jake Gyllenhaal” tactic that Sony used for Spider-Man II –– Hollywood has been doing this for years. It was bad enough back in the days of television with Dick Sargent replacing Dick York in Bewitched, but now it’s becoming pretty commonplace for producers to replace actors in iconic roles. Although now it’s more common due to monetary concerns, which seems to be what has taken Howard out of the War Machine suit, it’s also common to see an actor ankle a role because they don’t like the source material, or the direction the character is taking. We’ve put together several different re-castings, which all happened for a variety of reasons: money, dissatisfaction with the script, test audience reactions, and actors just growing tired of playing the same character. Check them out after the break. Alec Baldwin –> Harrison Ford –> Ben Affleck –> Ryan Gosling (?) In Tom Clancy’s series of “Ryanverse” books, action politician and former teacher Jack Ryan has dne everything from rescue a rogue Russian submarine to become the President of the United States. Alec Baldwin first played the role in 1990’s The Hunt for Red October, but he was unavailable for the sequel Patriot Games (which in the books is a prequel), due to a stint on Broadway. The producers then approached Harrison Ford, who took over the role for two movies, with Clear and Present Danger being the highest grossing Ryan film to date. Ford decided not to play the role a third time, and for 2002’s The Sum of All Fears they decided to try and jumpstart the franchise with a young Jack Ryan, casting Ben Affleck in the role. At the time, Ford reportedly told Affleck, “Knock yourself out. I don’t want to do these movies anymore.” Which contrasts with what he just told AOL’s Moviefone: “I thought that we hadn’t quite exhausted the potential of the Jack Ryan character. Those films were, I think, very good movies. I wouldn’t mind doing another of those.” Nevertheless, there’s a rumor that Ryan Gosling will become the new Jack Ryan in Without Remorse, which is currently in development. Personally? I thought Baldwin made the best Jack Ryan, but he’s a better Jack Donaghy. Jodie Foster –> Julianne Moore When Foster declined to reprise the Clarice Starling role from Silence of the Lambs in Hannibal, the producers considered a list of actors that ranged from Winona Ryder to Gillian Anderson, who lost the role because her contract at Fox said she couldn’t play another FBI agent. Even though Foster had initially said she’d do it and had specific notes on the script, eventually Julianne Moore won the part, but in the end it wasn’t much of a prize –– it’s hard to remember that Ridley Scott directed this movie, because it just didn’t have a the spark or charisma of the original. Similarly, if you rent the excellent Manhunter, you’ll see William Petersen in a non-CSI role playing FBI agent Will Graham, who actually captured Hannibal Lecter (oddly spelled Lecktor in this movie), played by Brian Cox. Later Hollywood remade this movie as Red Dragon (the name of the book) with Anthony Hopkins reprising his Lecter role, and Ed Norton playing Will Graham. Although if we include remakes on this list, it’ll stretch on far too long. Katie Holmes –> Maggie Gyllenhaal Katie Holmes turned down a big payday when she decided not to return for the sequel to Batman Begins, and missed out on being in the biggest movie of this year. It’s still unclear if her decision shows Tom Cruise’s influence at work, or if she just didn’t want to do it now that she’s a mommy, but it was one of those head-scratching moments that just makes you wonder what happened. Maybe she bristled at the paltry two million dollars she was being offered for the role, especially since the part was beefed up for The Dark Knight. Claudia Wells –> Elisabeth Shue and Crispin Glover –> Jeffrey Weisman Back to the Future Part II saw two major roles get recast, and in some cases rewritten completely. Claudia Wells, who played Marty’s girlfriend Jennifer in the first film, decided to leave acting since her mother was diagnosed with cancer, and she later took more time off to have children. Her part was recast with Elisabeth Shue stepping in, and they had to re-shoot the ending sequence of the original movie since that’s how Back to the Future II opens. Additionally, Crispin Glover found out that the producers were using his image without his approval for the sequel, and he sued the directors and producers, including Steven Spielberg. The case was settled out of court, and the Screen Actors Guild later implemented rules to prevent this from happening again. As a result, Glover’s part was recast with Jeffrey Weisman playing George McFly, and most of his scenes show the back of his head, or him floating upside down (he’s supposed to be in traction, having hurt his back) and wearing heavy prosthetics. Burt Reynolds –> Jackie Gleason –> Jerry Reed This story is so strange that it makes me want to go back and watch this movie again, even though I remember how terrible it was when I saw it as a kid. This movie was originally titled Smokey and the Bandit III: Smokey IS The Bandit, with Jackie Gleason playing both Buford T. Justice, and the role of the Bandit. We sure would have like to see him as the Bandit, but apparently audiences didn’t and were too confused by the dual roles. So the studio dumped Gleason as the Bandit, and rewrote the film to have Jerry Reed as the Bandit. If you remember from the first two movies (and it’s forgiveable is you don’t have the lore of Smokey and the Bandit memorized at this point), Reed was the Bandit’s best buddy, Cledus Snow, who drove the big truck. However in this third installment, the Enoses (I swear I’m getting dumber by remembering all of this stuff) decided that the Bandit was too egotistical, and hire Snow to do their bidding. In the climactic scene, when Smokey finally catches the Bandit, he seems him as Burt Reynolds, who reprised the role just for that one moment. Now I need to go get a stiff drink. If someone out there can find the footage of Gleason as the Bandit, you’ll make my day. Thank god he made Nothing In Common with Tom Hanks before he died, because this would have a been a terrible film to end a career with. I was going to include Michael Gambon replacing Richard Harris in the role of Dumbledore, which opens up a whole realm of actors who had to be replaced because they died. Then I realized there’s actually quite a lot of those, so look for that in a future post. Originally posted on:SpoutBlog

Spout Post: Manhunter (1986, USA, Michael Mann) ***

Tue, 13 May 2008 23:48:27 GMT

Post By: CinemaRian
Post To: CinemaRian Blog
Post Date: 5/13/2008 7:48:27 PM
Body: Manhunter is only the second film I've seen by Michael Mann, the first was his biopic Ali, which even his die-hard fans admit is not one of his best works. I think that based on what I've seen, I'm not going to be one of his fans (which isn't going to stop me from seeing his other films, of course). I guess if you have a thing for this kind of "tough guy" movie (if you like Mann, you probably like Scorsese and vice versa), you'll love it, if not, it's a passable thriller. Based on the novel Red Dragon by Thomas Harris, which would later be filmed again by Brett Rattner, Manhunter stars the relativley unkown William L. Peterson as Will Graham, a retired FBI profiler who is called back into the fold when a new serial killer called The Tooth Fairy (Tom Noonan) is on the loose. Graham is in demand because of his unique talent to get inside the heads of those he profiles, but that comes at a great personal cost- he can't shake the evil feelings he gets, and spent some time in a mental ward. Making the search for the Tooth Fairy even more difficult is that he has to rely on brillant former psychologist Dr. Hannibal Lecktor (Brian Cox) for help, and Lecktor is another serial killer that Graham caught. You know the rest. Manhunter has some major flaws. For one thing a lot of the movie is about Graham's though process, which is difficult to show visually, and Peterson is such a bland actor that I never bought him as being neurotic (I had the same problem with Edward Norton in the remake). Another is the music, which is loaded with cheesy 80's electro synth crap. Mann's direction is also occasionaly cheesy- such as trying to show that the Tooth Fairy is scary because he plays "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" really loud. The film does deserve it's three star rating because, although there's nothing really special here, it is not boring and there are worse ways to spend two hours. Of course, comparisons to Red Dragon are inevitable. I think that is slightly better than this one, because the killer is much more sympathetic and three deminsional in Rattner's version. We feel sorry him because he basically what his girl friend says he is "a sweet man" who is really, really sick and because of horrible enviromental factors gave into to the darkest side of human nature. Here is just an evil sicko from begining to end. Who is a better Hannibal Lector? Both Cox and Anthony Hopkins are appropraite for what the films try to do, Mann tries for a more realistic approach where as in the Hopkins series his character is more archytypal. If you have to see one or the other, see Red Dragon, although niether is particuarly good. You'll probably want to check out The Silence of the Lambs instead. Manhunter (1986)

Spout Post: Re:Hannibal the Cannibal

Mon, 05 May 2008 03:17:06 GMT

Post By: leeroy711
Post To: Serialicious
Post Date: 5/4/2008 11:17:06 PM
Body: [quote user="mercurial"] Undoubtedly the most widespread and critically acclaimed serial killer movie is The Silence of the Lambs. The acting, direction, dialogue, cinematography, and nature of the characters all coalesce into a fantastically terrifying portrayal of madness (both beautiful - Hannibal, and perverse - Bill). Unfortunately I think the films that followed were rather haphazard and spoil a great character. Manhunter, which was the first filmic adaptation of Harris' Hannibal, wasn't the most profound movie but nonetheless established the character as one of the nastiest antagonists out there. The Silence of the Lambs followed and allowed for the predictable sequels. Hannibal had its moments of gory goofiness but ultimately wasn't anything special. Red Dragon moved the franchise into a different direction and was interesting, but something seemed to be missing. Lastly Hannibal Rising, a prequel following the birth of the man, is intriguing in its execution and beautifully filmed yet lacks that certain something that made The Silence of the Lambs so incredible. Am I wrong? Which of the Hannibal films do you find to be the best? [/quote] You're dead right. I thought Ralph Fiennes acting in Red Dragon was pretty good and but ultimately the only one worth watching more than once for me has always been Silence of the Lambs. Hopkins personified the character so deviantly well that you can still hear some of his dialogue just thinking about the film. Well put.

Spout Post: Hannibal the Cannibal

Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:44:41 GMT

Post By: mercurial
Post To: Serialicious
Post Date: 4/22/2008 12:44:41 AM
Body: Undoubtedly the most widespread and critically acclaimed serial killer movie is The Silence of the Lambs. The acting, direction, dialogue, cinematography, and nature of the characters all coalesce into a fantastically terrifying portrayal of madness (both beautiful - Hannibal, and perverse - Bill). Unfortunately I think the films that followed were rather haphazard and spoil a great character. Manhunter, which was the first filmic adaptation of Harris' Hannibal, wasn't the most profound movie but nonetheless established the character as one of the nastiest antagonists out there. The Silence of the Lambs followed and allowed for the predictable sequels. Hannibal had its moments of gory goofiness but ultimately wasn't anything special. Red Dragon moved the franchise into a different direction and was interesting, but something seemed to be missing. Lastly Hannibal Rising, a prequel following the birth of the man, is intriguing in its execution and beautifully filmed yet lacks that certain something that made The Silence of the Lambs so incredible. Am I wrong? Which of the Hannibal films do you find to be the best?

Spout Post: Re:What movie character best represents you?

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:38:53 GMT

Post By: El_Aaron
Post To: if i were a movie character
Post Date: 4/2/2008 2:38:53 PM
Body: If there was a character which represented me, it would be Francis Dollarhyde, played by Tom Noonan, in Manhunter. Not because he kills innocent families, but because he kicks ass with that shotgun in the climax! I also reckons Randall (Jeff Anderson) from Clerks suits me coz I'm a major slacker! Finally, like many fellow spouts here, Travis Bickle, Robert De Niro, from Taxi Driver because this world is so fuckin' insane!

Spout Post: Which Ones Scare Me

Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:29:25 GMT

Post By: El_Aaron
Post To: Real Horror
Post Date: 4/2/2008 2:29:25 PM
Body: First of all, I wanna say sorry for my freakin' long absence but I'm back now! Now onto the big stuff. I think what scares me about horror movies is when you have an extremely suspensful scene, like in I Am Legend. Also, I get scared when a particular scene makes me jump out of my seat, and I got a few of those in Salem's Lot. Lastly, I think the most important scare copmes from the villiian of the tale. I think the scariest are from Halloween, Hellraiser, Manhunter, Silence Of The Lambs, The Hills Have Eyes, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Anyone agree?

Spout Post: Re:Top 31 Horror films of the past 31 years on The Naked Lunch Radio Show

Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:22:34 GMT

Post By: Puhnner
Post To: HORROR MOVIES 101
Post Date: 2/12/2008 2:22:34 PM
Body: Revised List of 31 from 76 through07Mommie Dearest and Red Dawn co-winners of No. 1and wished I could have included:1988 Blood Orgy of the Leather Girls ( have not seen it, but the title is terrific and I cannot find it here ) 1976 Man on the Roof1976 The Sentinel1977 Suspiria 1978 I spit on your Grave 1987 Near Dark 1988 Rabid Grannies ( have not seen )1988 Brain Damage 31. 1988 The Blob 30. 1978 Halloween 29. 1986 Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer 28. 1986 Vamp 27. 1976 The Omen 26. 1979 The Brood 25. 1985 Lifeforce 24. 2001 Frailty 23. 2002 28 Days Later 22. 1990 Jacob’s Ladder 21. 1995 Se7en 20. 1986 Manhunter 19. 1987 Angel Heart 18. 1995 The Addiction17. 1997 Office Killer 16. 1986 Nomads 15. 1981 The Howling 14. 1979 Nosferatu 13. 2007 Bug 12. 1987 Street Trash 11. 1987 Evil Dead II 10. 1987 The Hidden 9. 1989 Shocker 8. 1987 Hellraiser 7. 1985 Re-Animator 6. 1986 The Hitcher 5. 1991 The Silence of the Lambs 4. 1982 The Thing 3. 1992 Twin Peaks Fire Walk with Me 2. 1997 Lost Highway 1. 1999 Audition

Spout Post: Great Hannibal movie!

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:42:34 GMT

Post By: El_Aaron
Post To: El_Aaron Blog
Post Date: 10/22/2007 1:42:34 PM
Body: In many ways it is superior to Silence of the Lambs, in my opinion! Unfortunately, it is very underrated and unseen!

Spout Post: Summer of 86: A Tribute

Sat, 19 May 2007 01:52:00 GMT

Post By: lbenschwartz
Post To: lbenschwartz Blog
Post Date: 5/18/2007 9:52:00 PM
Body: What’s the date? May 18th. The summer blockbuster season must be upon us. As an avid moviegoer from the age of 5, I have almost a biohoroscopic feel in my well worn behind that tells me I should be sitting in a movie theater seat, shoving popcorn and cherry coke into my face. Each year, that rush of anticipation and ultimate disappointment rushes through me like the sun rays telling my body to start perspiring like a pig. But, having just been the least useful partner in the birth of a child, I know that those trips to the multiplex will be fleeting this season. Already weeks into this, and I’ve yet to see Spiderman 3 and Shrek 3 – although I hear I’m not missing much.In my contemplative state I turn to the one summer, where that pang of excitment that comes every May first started. I’m talking about the summer of 1986. If summer means anything, it means action, and 1986 delivered more action frame by frame than any other summer before or since. Taken individually, some of these movies may not like much, but imagine a summer in which each week brought the pain and the pyrotechnics in unrelenting car cash after punishing exploding building.May 16, 1986 brought Top Gun. Honestly, I didn’t even want to see Top Gun when it first came out. Tom Cruise was that guy only girls liked. He definitely didn’t carry a machine gun, and if he told you ‘he’d be back,’ you’d likely just look confused. Also, the only gun fire came from jet planes – not a single revenge-minded, muscle-bound action star. This made the action seem somehow ephemeral and less hair raising. But I stood corrected. The moment the jets launch from the carrier, and Kenny Loggins sings Danger Zone, I had to give it up for captain hairdo - this rocked.May 23rd brought Cobra. Like Raw Deal, which came a few weeks later, Cobra was a major crossroads for the box office powerhouse that once was Sylvester Stallone. For Stallone, Cobra marked the beginning of the end of a ride that included Rambo and Rocky IV, both released within that year. It wasn’t the career suicide that was his arm wrestling opus From the Top, but Cobra just didn’t quite live up to expectations. That was then, of course, now it’s the finest movie featuring a dude named Marion, a co-starring role by Brigitte Nielsen, and a villain named “Supermarket Killer.”Raw Deal, on the other hand, was the beginning of the beginning for Schwarzenegger. This was before he rediscovered his niche in the sci-fi/action realm with Predator, The Running Man, Total Recall, and Terminator 2. It’s a basic, low-grade mob action movie, and it feels something Chuck Norris may have passed up. He was riding high after Code of Silence after all. It’s the least memorable movie I’m bringing up here, but any Schwarzenegger movie of this era is hard not to bring up when talking about 80s action movies. Later in June, on the 27th, Running Scared was released. I happen to hold the controversial view that this Billy Crystal/Gregory Hines vehicle is a better action cop/high concept comedy than Beverly Hills Cop. It’s grittier, has better one-liners, and definitely has better action. The subway car cash and the final lobby shoot-out blow away anything in BHC. And although its one of Crystal’s least forced and funniest movies, Gregory Hines outperforms him in every scene.Next, on July 2, came Big Trouble in Little China, which was, in a way, the Grindhouse of its day. This Great mix of chop socky exploitation and parody features one of Kurt Russell’s signature roles. Poor guy has never had much luck away from John Carpenter. To this day, its pure entertainment.Which brings me to the coup-de-gras of the summer of 1986-Aliens. John Cameron’s masterpiece of sci-fi and action was a watershed moment of 80’s action, setting the stage for a rush of great sci-fi action to come in the years ahead. But, stick with the original theatrical version. Much like the directors cut of Terminator 2, the extra scenes do nothing but throw the momentum of the action completely off. Aliens proved that you could introduced complex psychology and drama into an action movie. Concepts are difficult to weave into adrenaline based action, and if done poorly, and throw everything out of whack – See The Hulk.Finally, the summer of action ends on August 15, 1986 with the release of Manhunter. This is the only movie I didn’t see in the theater that summer, but it bears mention, just cause any season that contains a movie of this one’s brillance bears mention. The original Hannibal Lector, almost as good as Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs, far and away better than Anthony Hopkins in all the Silence of the Lambs sequels.So there it is, the summer of 1986. I kept this action movie-based, but I’ll just mention that this summer also included Ferris Bueller’s Day Off and Back to School.

Spout Post: Re: Hannibal Lecter vs Norman Bates

Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:39:37 GMT

Post By: Dr_Gor
Post To: HORROR MOVIES 101
Post Date: 4/11/2007 5:39:37 PM
Body: Thank You, Mr. Puhnner, for your input! It is a real pleasure to have you in this group! However, I must disagree with you on this one... I HAVE seen "Manhunter" more than once and it is, in fact, part of my collection... I enjoyed this movie immensly! BUT, I found ANTHONY HOPKINS performance to be The ULTIMATE! He is the consumate actor and he portrays a 'psychopath' better than anyone! (except, maybe, Anthony Perkins!)... have you seen "The Edge" or "Instinct" ? I DO agree with you in that i liked the original "Cape Fear" over the remake... Robert Mitchum vs. Gregory Peck (!) are you kidding me? I just cannot believe that this movie did not receive a much wider audience and publicity! Please keep your input coming, Puhnner... that is what this group thrives on... Thank You ... < GOR >

Spout Tag:thriller

Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:01:30 GMT

thriller
Number of films tagged: 201

Number of people who tagged: 74

Number of times used: 247

Spout Tag:blood

Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:50:21 GMT

blood
Number of films tagged: 382

Number of people who tagged: 64

Number of times used: 155

Spout Tag:serialkiller

Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:03:15 GMT

serialkiller
Number of films tagged: 996

Number of people who tagged: 32

Number of times used: 64

Spout Tag:psycho

Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:30:05 GMT

psycho
Number of films tagged: 32

Number of people who tagged: 30

Number of times used: 41

Spout Tag:cannibal

Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:20:45 GMT

cannibal
Number of films tagged: 273

Number of people who tagged: 28

Number of times used: 38

Spout Tag:nightmare

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:15:24 GMT

nightmare
Number of films tagged: 232

Number of people who tagged: 27

Number of times used: 35

Spout Tag:doctor

Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:47:27 GMT

doctor
Number of films tagged: 736

Number of people who tagged: 24

Number of times used: 63

Spout Tag:psychopath

Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:51:04 GMT

psychopath
Number of films tagged: 517

Number of people who tagged: 22

Number of times used: 33

Spout Tag:prequel

Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:59:53 GMT

prequel
Number of films tagged: 10

Number of people who tagged: 10

Number of times used: 12

Spout Tag:mentalbreakdown

Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:02:27 GMT

mentalbreakdown
Number of films tagged: 153

Number of people who tagged: 8

Number of times used: 12

Spout Tag:federalagent

Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:01:37 GMT

federalagent
Number of films tagged: 176

Number of people who tagged: 6

Number of times used: 6

Spout Tag:murders

Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:07:30 GMT

murders
Number of films tagged: 6

Number of people who tagged: 6

Number of times used: 7

Spout Tag:lecter

Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:55:23 GMT

lecter
Number of films tagged: 4

Number of people who tagged: 5

Number of times used: 8

Spout Tag:murderer

Tue, 05 May 2009 20:39:14 GMT

murderer
Number of films tagged: 12

Number of people who tagged: 4

Number of times used: 12

Spout Tag:1streddragon

Sat, 22 Sep 2007 17:21:27 GMT

1streddragon
Number of films tagged: 1

Number of people who tagged: 1

Number of times used: 1