list http://www.spout.com/ Recent community activity around Storytelling on Spout Copyright 2005-9 Spout, LLC Spout RSS http://www.spout.com/images/SpoutLogoRSS.jpg http://www.spout.com/ 136 30 http://www.spout.com/films/Storytelling/192664/default.aspx Title: Storytelling
Year: 2001
Director: Todd Solondz
Plot: From the controversial director of Happiness comes another dark look at New Jersey, this time broken into two separate stories. The first is a 26-minute segment entitled "Fiction," which highlights the life of Marcus (Leo Fitzpatrick), an aspiring writer who was born with deformities due to cerebral palsy. He unsuccessfully tries to read a new short story to his girlfriend Vi (Selma Blair), and leaves her after the story is similarly dismissed by his fellow students and teacher, Mr. Scott (Robert Wisdom), a black Pulitzer Prize winner. Vi approaches Mr. Scott in a bar one night and agrees to go home with him, recalling a "fictional" account of their experience in the next class. The second segment, titled "Nonfiction," follows Toby Oxman (Paul Giamatti), a thirtysomething sad sack who gets the idea to make a documentary of contemporary suburban teenage life. Looking for subjects, he runs into Scooby (Mark Webber), a disaffected, dim young man who dreams of being a TV star. Scooby's home life is highly dysfunctional, with a strict father (John Goodman), a prim and proper mother (Julie Hagerty), a football player brother (Noah Fleiss), and a younger brother Mikey (Jonathan Osser), who continually chats up the family's put-upon maid Consuelo (Lupe Ontiveros). Consuelo is soon banished from the household due to her involvement with Mikey, becoming an outcast just like Scooby. ~ Jason Clark, All Movie Guide
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]]>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:43:22 GMTStorytelling2001Todd SolondzFrom the controversial director of <a href=/films/118154/default.aspx style='text-decoration:underline'>Happiness</a> comes another dark look at New Jersey, this time broken into two separate stories. The first is a 26-minute segment entitled "Fiction," which highlights the life of Marcus (<a href="/players/P___199046/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Leo Fitzpatrick</a>), an aspiring writer who was born with deformities due to cerebral palsy. He unsuccessfully tries to read a new short story to his girlfriend Vi (<a href="/players/P___232175/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Selma Blair</a>), and leaves her after the story is similarly dismissed by his fellow students and teacher, Mr. Scott (Robert Wisdom), a black Pulitzer Prize winner. Vi approaches Mr. Scott in a bar one night and agrees to go home with him, recalling a "fictional" account of their experience in the next class. The second segment, titled "Nonfiction," follows Toby Oxman (<a href="/players/P____26680/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Paul Giamatti</a>), a thirtysomething sad sack who gets the idea to make a documentary of contemporary suburban teenage life. Looking for subjects, he runs into Scooby (Mark Webber), a disaffected, dim young man who dreams of being a TV star. Scooby's home life is highly dysfunctional, with a strict father (<a href="/players/P____27679/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>John Goodman</a>), a prim and proper mother (<a href="/players/P____29559/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Julie Hagerty</a>), a football player brother (<a href="/players/P____23851/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Noah Fleiss</a>), and a younger brother Mikey (Jonathan Osser), who continually chats up the family's put-upon maid Consuelo (Lupe Ontiveros). Consuelo is soon banished from the household due to her involvement with Mikey, becoming an outcast just like Scooby. ~ Jason Clark, All Movie Guide6Taggedy Taggged (6-10)10263http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t20331gzkup.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Storytelling/192664/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_November_17_In_The_Nude/625/37420/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
Post To: Weekly Theme
Post Date: 11/18/2008 8:43:22 PM
Body: So many to list . . . so how about I go with the most shocking (to me). Julianne Moore / Heather Graham / Mark Wahlberg in Boogie Nights Kevin Bacon in Wild Things Never have I wanted to rip out my eyes so badly before. Denise Richards in Wild Things Makes up for Kevin Bacon. Kate WInslet in Titanic Jennifer Connelly in Requiem for a Dream Holly Hunter in Crash Mena Suvari in American Beauty Michael Pitt in The Dreamers Kate Hudson in Almost Famous Get your pause buttons ready. Dina Meyer in Starship Troopers Gwyneth Paltrow in Shakespeare in Love Monica Bellucci in Irreversible Laura Harring in Mulholland Dr. Out of the middle of nowhere, BAM! Lesbian Sex Scene! Elizabeth Berkley / Gina Gershon in Showgirls From Saved By The Bell to this. Nice transition. Jaime King in Sin City Vinessa Shaw in Eyes Wide Shut Wait? She was wearing a mask? I didn't notice. Milla Jovovich in The Fifth Element Selma Blair in Storytelling Some people only saw a big black censored square over her. Find the unrated version of the film. Selma Blair in A Dirty Shame So they are obviously fake, but holy &#$%! Uma Thurman in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen So she's almost completely naked. Who cares! Sheryl Lee in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me They couldn't do that on television! Rose McGowan in The Doom Generation Erika Eleniak in Under Siege Happy Birthday to me! Erika Eleniak in Chasers Amy Adams in Psycho Beach Party Before she was an Academy Award Nominee. Natalie Portman in Hotel Chevalier Heather Matarazzo in Hostel 2 Christina Ricci in The Opposite of Sex Christina Ricci in Black Snake Moan WOW! Isabella Rossellini in Blue Velvet Ewan McGregor in Velvet Goldmine Emmanuelle Seigner in The Ninth Gate Straddling Johnny Depp next to a burning castle. Hot! Demi Moore in Striptease I think that's enough for now. And yes, I am a pervert.
]]>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:43:22 GMTmercurialWeekly Theme11/18/2008 8:43:22 PMSo many to list . . . so how about I go with the most shocking (to me). Julianne Moore / Heather Graham / Mark Wahlberg in Boogie Nights Kevin Bacon in Wild Things Never have I wanted to rip out my eyes so badly before. Denise Richards in Wild Things Makes up for Kevin Bacon. Kate WInslet in Titanic Jennifer Connelly in Requiem for a Dream Holly Hunter in Crash Mena Suvari in American Beauty Michael Pitt in The Dreamers Kate Hudson in Almost Famous Get your pause buttons ready. Dina Meyer in Starship Troopers Gwyneth Paltrow in Shakespeare in Love Monica Bellucci in Irreversible Laura Harring in Mulholland Dr. Out of the middle of nowhere, BAM! Lesbian Sex Scene! Elizabeth Berkley / Gina Gershon in Showgirls From Saved By The Bell to this. Nice transition. Jaime King in Sin City Vinessa Shaw in Eyes Wide Shut Wait? She was wearing a mask? I didn't notice. Milla Jovovich in The Fifth Element Selma Blair in Storytelling Some people only saw a big black censored square over her. Find the unrated version of the film. Selma Blair in A Dirty Shame So they are obviously fake, but holy &amp;#$%! Uma Thurman in The Adventures of Baron Munchausen So she's almost completely naked. Who cares! Sheryl Lee in Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me They couldn't do that on television! Rose McGowan in The Doom Generation Erika Eleniak in Under Siege Happy Birthday to me! Erika Eleniak in Chasers Amy Adams in Psycho Beach Party Before she was an Academy Award Nominee. Natalie Portman in Hotel Chevalier Heather Matarazzo in Hostel 2 Christina Ricci in The Opposite of Sex Christina Ricci in Black Snake Moan WOW! Isabella Rossellini in Blue Velvet Ewan McGregor in Velvet Goldmine Emmanuelle Seigner in The Ninth Gate Straddling Johnny Depp next to a burning castle. Hot! Demi Moore in Striptease I think that's enough for now. And yes, I am a pervert. http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_October_6_Revenge/625/35952/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Tizzy
Post To: Weekly Theme
Post Date: 10/6/2008 7:06:19 PM
Body: [quote user="mercurial"] Well since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner. [/quote] I see your Jaws: The Revenge, Mercurial, and raise you one Revenge of the Nerds. I'd also like to throw Heathers into the mix of teenage revenge movies, with very dark consequences.
]]>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:06:19 GMTTizzyWeekly Theme10/6/2008 7:06:19 PM[quote user="mercurial"] Well since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner. [/quote] I see your Jaws: The Revenge, Mercurial, and raise you one Revenge of the Nerds. I'd also like to throw Heathers into the mix of teenage revenge movies, with very dark consequences. http://www.spout.com/groups/Weekly_Theme/Re_Weekly_Theme_for_October_6_Revenge/625/35951/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
Post To: Weekly Theme
Post Date: 10/6/2008 6:45:27 PM
Body: Well since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner.
]]>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:45:27 GMTmercurialWeekly Theme10/6/2008 6:45:27 PMWell since probably my favorite film focusing solely on revenge was mentioned (She-Devil), I'm gonna have to go ahead and list those that pale in comparison. Jaws: The Revenge - The first Jaws is incredible, but not really about revenge. The fourth installment, with revenge blatantly placed in the title, is a great little B-movie that increased my fear of sharks and has made me vow to myself to never get on a floatation device that gets dragged behind a boat: cause you know great white sharks love that shit. I was recently able to see Machine Girl which was insanely gory and loaded with laughs. Premise: a young school girl gets revenge by attaching a Gatling gun to her amputated forearm and killing the bullies that picked on her and her brother. A Nightmare on Elm Street is more or less a revenge flick about Freddy killing the kids of those who killed him. Carrie gave mousy nerds in high school hope of becoming telekinetic and getting revenge on all those snot nosed cheerleaders and jocks. Death Becomes Her is all about revenge between two woman that continues throughout their entire lives. Dick presupposes that Deepthroat was just getting revenge on Nixon. Election is yet another meditation on revenge set in high school. Pick Flick or suffer the wrath of Reese Witherspoon! Friday the 13th. No explanation needed. Gladiator Maximus is all up on getting revenge. Hackers spends half the film getting revenge on those that dare to mess with computer nerds and their porn. Hard Candy was a very twisted revenge thriller. Jawbreaker and Mean Girls focus on big breasted teens plotting each others demise. Overboard has a lowly carpenter getting revenge on a bitchy debutante by surreptitiously making her into his wife and the father of his children when she gets amnesia. Rushmore has fantastic moments of revenge between Max and Mr. Bloom. The "Non-Fiction" part of Storytelling has a great bit of revenge at the end. The First Wives Club is a guilty pleasure about scorned ex-wives getting revenge on their husbands that left them for younger women. The Incredibles centers around Syndrome getting revenge on super-heroes. What Ever Happened To Baby Jane? is some classic screen legend revenge. Lastly, Wild Things. Great B-movie with acts of revenge and lesbian trysts around every corner. http://www.spout.com/groups/Filmgaming/Re_Recasting_THE_BREAKFAST_CLUB_1985/563/28121/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: mercurial
Post To: Filmgaming
Post Date: 5/2/2008 6:22:54 PM
Body: The Breakfast Club Brady Corbet - Andrew Clark (The Athlete) Jay Baruchel - Brian Ralph Johnson (The Brain) Mark Webber - John Bender (The Criminal) Blake Lively - Claire Standish (The Princess) Nora Zehetner - Allison Reynolds (The Basket Case) Paul Giamatti - Richard Vernon (The Principal) Scott Bakula - Carl (The Janitor) Brady Corbet (Funny Games) fits perfectly in the All-American Jock stereotype. Jay Baruchel (Almost Famous) plays the geek better than most. Mark Webber (Stroytelling) is a genuinely disaffected youth. Blake Lively (The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants) looks like a prom queen. Nora Zehetner (Brick) could definitely pull off the fragile, awkward loner. Paul Giamatti (Sideways) will bring a touch of class to the production as the irksome school principal. Scott Bakula (American Beauty) has that wisdom-spouting man with a mop quality that would be perfect for the janitor.
]]>Fri, 02 May 2008 22:22:54 GMTmercurialFilmgaming5/2/2008 6:22:54 PMThe Breakfast Club Brady Corbet - Andrew Clark (The Athlete) Jay Baruchel - Brian Ralph Johnson (The Brain) Mark Webber - John Bender (The Criminal) Blake Lively - Claire Standish (The Princess) Nora Zehetner - Allison Reynolds (The Basket Case) Paul Giamatti - Richard Vernon (The Principal) Scott Bakula - Carl (The Janitor) Brady Corbet (Funny Games) fits perfectly in the All-American Jock stereotype. Jay Baruchel (Almost Famous) plays the geek better than most. Mark Webber (Stroytelling) is a genuinely disaffected youth. Blake Lively (The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants) looks like a prom queen. Nora Zehetner (Brick) could definitely pull off the fragile, awkward loner. Paul Giamatti (Sideways) will bring a touch of class to the production as the irksome school principal. Scott Bakula (American Beauty) has that wisdom-spouting man with a mop quality that would be perfect for the janitor. http://www.spout.com/blogs/paul/archive/2008/3/11/26093.aspx Post By: paul
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Post Date: 3/11/2008 4:00:32 PM
Body: Mark Webber has been an actor in the independent scene for a long time (Jesus’ Son, Storytelling, Broken Flowers) and he premiered his first feature film as director here at SXSW. Explicit Ills has an incredible cast including Paul Dano, Lou Taylor Pucci and Rosario Dawson getting a run for their money from non-actors like 8 year old Francisco Burgos. Frankie Shaw also stars in Explicit Ills (and happens to be carrying Webber’s unborn bambino). In the “green room” at the Alamo Draft House theater, I talk to her and Mark Webber about how the movie is less story, more mosaic of an American city: Philadelphia. And how casting a city in the starring role exposes the real and present ills facing our country. SXSW 2008: Mark Webber & Frankie Shaw interview Explicit llls SXSW news, reviews, interviews and discussions Originally posted on:SpoutBlog » Paul
]]>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:00:32 GMTpaulpaul on spout.com3/11/2008 4:00:32 PMMark Webber has been an actor in the independent scene for a long time (Jesus’ Son, Storytelling, Broken Flowers) and he premiered his first feature film as director here at SXSW. Explicit Ills has an incredible cast including Paul Dano, Lou Taylor Pucci and Rosario Dawson getting a run for their money from non-actors like 8 year old Francisco Burgos. Frankie Shaw also stars in Explicit Ills (and happens to be carrying Webber’s unborn bambino). In the “green room” at the Alamo Draft House theater, I talk to her and Mark Webber about how the movie is less story, more mosaic of an American city: Philadelphia. And how casting a city in the starring role exposes the real and present ills facing our country. SXSW 2008: Mark Webber & Frankie Shaw interview Explicit llls SXSW news, reviews, interviews and discussions Originally posted on:SpoutBlog » Paul http://www.spout.com/blogs/spoutblog/archive/2008/3/11/26092.aspx Post By: SpoutBlog
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Post Date: 3/11/2008 3:01:37 PM
Body: Mark Webber has been an actor in the independent scene for a long time (Jesus’ Son, Storytelling, Broken Flowers) and he premiered his first feature film as director here at SXSW. Explicit Ills has an incredible cast including Paul Dano, Lou Taylor Pucci and Rosario Dawson getting a run for their money from non-actors like 8 year old Francisco Burgos. Frankie Shaw also stars in Explicit Ills (and happens to be carrying Webber’s unborn bambino). In the “green room” at the Alamo Draft House theater, I talk to her and Mark Webber about how the movie is less story, more mosaic of an American city: Philadelphia. And how casting a city in the starring role exposes the real and present ills facing our country. SXSW 2008: Mark Webber & Frankie Shaw interview Explicit llls SXSW news, reviews, interviews and discussions Originally posted on:SpoutBlog
]]>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:01:37 GMTSpoutBlogSpoutBlog on spout.com3/11/2008 3:01:37 PMMark Webber has been an actor in the independent scene for a long time (Jesus’ Son, Storytelling, Broken Flowers) and he premiered his first feature film as director here at SXSW. Explicit Ills has an incredible cast including Paul Dano, Lou Taylor Pucci and Rosario Dawson getting a run for their money from non-actors like 8 year old Francisco Burgos. Frankie Shaw also stars in Explicit Ills (and happens to be carrying Webber’s unborn bambino). In the “green room” at the Alamo Draft House theater, I talk to her and Mark Webber about how the movie is less story, more mosaic of an American city: Philadelphia. And how casting a city in the starring role exposes the real and present ills facing our country. SXSW 2008: Mark Webber & Frankie Shaw interview Explicit llls SXSW news, reviews, interviews and discussions Originally posted on:SpoutBlog http://www.spout.com/groups/Philosophy_of_Film/Re_Deception/281/6764/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: BigJeffLebowski
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Post Date: 4/5/2007 5:05:21 PM
Body: As far as manipulation is concerned, I'm much more offended by poorly executed music swells and slow motion. Even if you're watching a documentary, there's always an element of the artist's stamp. In Storytelling, there's a character who says "once you start writing, it all becomes fiction," which is certainly true to a degree. I was happy to see The Shape of Things brought up almost immediately. Aside from being one of my favorite films, it brings up one of the key philosophical tenets with I grapple almost daily: all reality is subjective, and our reactions are informed less by what actually happens than by a combination of how we perceive it and how aware we are of the deception and/or our bias. It isn't the act of deception which offends us so much as admitting that we were deceived. Would it be simplistic to say that being offended by Fargo's rather daft conceit indicates a more deeply seated sense of gullibility? Wouldn't that kind of reaction be better suited to something like a Michael Moore film, which shamelessly parades opinions (albeit ones which are largely supported by fact) as fact?
]]>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:05:21 GMTBigJeffLebowskiPhilosophy of Film4/5/2007 5:05:21 PMAs far as manipulation is concerned, I&#39;m much more offended by poorly executed music swells and slow motion. Even if you&#39;re watching a documentary, there&#39;s always an element of the artist&#39;s stamp. In Storytelling, there&#39;s a character who says "once you start writing, it all becomes fiction," which is certainly true to a degree. I was happy to see The Shape of Things brought up almost immediately. Aside from being one of my favorite films, it brings up one of the key philosophical tenets with I grapple almost daily: all reality is subjective, and our reactions are informed less by what actually happens than by a combination of how we perceive it and how aware we are of the deception and/or our bias. It isn&#39;t the act of deception which offends us so much as admitting that we were deceived. Would it be simplistic to say that being offended by Fargo&#39;s rather daft conceit indicates a more deeply seated sense of gullibility? Wouldn&#39;t that kind of reaction be better suited to something like a Michael Moore film, which shamelessly parades opinions (albeit ones which are largely supported by fact) as fact? http://www.spout.com/groups/PulpFiction1975/Re_Telling_A_Story_Backwards/66/3292/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
Post To: PulpFiction1975
Post Date: 10/17/2006 3:04:50 PM
Body: [quote user="paul"]There's an added element to Memento. We may experience each sequence as Leonard does—starting off with no idea what's going on—but we also have the benefit of seeing the thread of events connect, something Leonard cannot do. It's a fresh take on a classic tragedy. The audience can see how the hero's choices are heading toward a tragic ending, but the hero cannot. It's a fun storytelling device, but it's also a new way for us to look at how, like Leonard, we make choices to preserve our way of life which can become a life totally motivated by it's own preservation regardless of whether or not it's worth living.[/quote] That is true. Although with each new scene we think we know the story, but each new scene shows us something new that shows us we really didn't know the whole story. So by the end of the film we feel like we aren't sure if we still actually know the whole thing. If we were able to keep seeing more scenes that took place earlier and earlier we migh discover our idea of the situation was still way off. In this way, we still are like Leonard. We think we know, but we really can't be sure. We feel almost better to convince ourselves that we do know.[quote user="paul"]Incidentally, even though the question was for Katiesflicks, I really like Happiness too. I felt like another of Solondz's films, Storytelling, although a bit more of a soapbox than his other films, serves as a great essay almost to understand his other work. In a nutshell, he tells stories you may not want to hear, but it doesn't mean they're untrue.[/quote] That's what I gathered from Happiness. I have several friends who utterly hate the film. But it seems to walk into deep shameful places so openly. I think people don't like it because they don't want to confront those things, but I am sick of all the bullshit. I want to see some truth! I hope to see Storytelling soon.
]]>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:04:50 GMTRisseladaPulpFiction197510/17/2006 3:04:50 PM[quote user="paul"]There's an added element to Memento. We may experience each sequence as Leonard does—starting off with no idea what's going on—but we also have the benefit of seeing the thread of events connect, something Leonard cannot do. It's a fresh take on a classic tragedy. The audience can see how the hero's choices are heading toward a tragic ending, but the hero cannot. It's a fun storytelling device, but it's also a new way for us to look at how, like Leonard, we make choices to preserve our way of life which can become a life totally motivated by it's own preservation regardless of whether or not it's worth living.[/quote] That is true. Although with each new scene we think we know the story, but each new scene shows us something new that shows us we really didn't know the whole story. So by the end of the film we feel like we aren't sure if we still actually know the whole thing. If we were able to keep seeing more scenes that took place earlier and earlier we migh discover our idea of the situation was still way off. In this way, we still are like Leonard. We think we know, but we really can't be sure. We feel almost better to convince ourselves that we do know.[quote user="paul"]Incidentally, even though the question was for Katiesflicks, I really like Happiness too. I felt like another of Solondz's films, Storytelling, although a bit more of a soapbox than his other films, serves as a great essay almost to understand his other work. In a nutshell, he tells stories you may not want to hear, but it doesn't mean they're untrue.[/quote] That's what I gathered from Happiness. I have several friends who utterly hate the film. But it seems to walk into deep shameful places so openly. I think people don't like it because they don't want to confront those things, but I am sick of all the bullshit. I want to see some truth! I hope to see Storytelling soon. http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/family/MemberTagFilms.aspxfamily
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