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Year: 1965
Director: Jean-Luc Godard
Plot: In Alphaville, Jean-Luc Godard fuses a hardboiled detective story with science fiction. Lemmy Caution (Eddie Constantine), a hero Godard borrowed from a series of French adventure films, comes to Alphaville, the capital of a totalitarian state, in order to destroy its leader, an almost-human computer called Alpha 60. While on his mission, Lemmy meets and falls in love with Natacha (Anna Karina), the daughter of the scientist who designed Alpha 60. Their love becomes the most profound challenge to the computer's control. Void of any flashy special effects, Alphaville uses 1960s Paris to depict the city of the future. ~ Matthew Tobey, All Movie Guide
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]]>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:14:39 GMTAlphaville1965Jean-Luc GodardIn Alphaville, <a href="/players/P____91804/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Jean-Luc Godard</a> fuses a hardboiled detective story with science fiction. Lemmy Caution (<a href="/players/P____14609/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Eddie Constantine</a>), a hero Godard borrowed from a series of French adventure films, comes to Alphaville, the capital of a totalitarian state, in order to destroy its leader, an almost-human computer called Alpha 60. While on his mission, Lemmy meets and falls in love with Natacha (<a href="/players/P____96782/default.aspx" style='text-decoration:underline'>Anna Karina</a>), the daughter of the scientist who designed Alpha 60. Their love becomes the most profound challenge to the computer's control. Void of any flashy special effects, Alphaville uses 1960s Paris to depict the city of the future. ~ Matthew Tobey, All Movie Guide7Taggedy Taggged (6-10)28193http://www.spout.com/ProductImages/t01713qikor.jpghttp://www.spout.com/films/Alphaville/1006/default.aspxFilm http://www.spout.com/groups/Friends_of_Foreign_Flicks/Re_Has_anyone_seen_Alphaville/591/39206/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 1/7/2009 1:20:21 PM
Body: [quote user="unclefestering"] The other night I watched Alphaville as part of an effort to watch movies that I always heard were good, but I had avoided for some reason or another. I really enjoyed the movie, but found myself confused and it took me a long time to realize why. I was watching a science fiction movie with no visual effects. Despite being set in the future, Alphaville was clearly Paris and everyone was dressed in 60s fashions and driving 60s cars. The characters talk about traveling from galaxy to galaxy, but seem to do it by driving on highways. Has anyone else been confused by this disconnect that Godard clearly intended? [/quote] Godard is strange like that I think. Actually I've only seen one of his movies, Breathless. And it turned me off enough not have have sought out any of his other movies after that. Although if there was one movie I was interested in seeing of his next it actually was Alphaville. Do you like any of his other films?
]]>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:20:21 GMTRisseladaFriends of Foreign Flicks1/7/2009 1:20:21 PM[quote user="unclefestering"] The other night I watched Alphaville as part of an effort to watch movies that I always heard were good, but I had avoided for some reason or another. I really enjoyed the movie, but found myself confused and it took me a long time to realize why. I was watching a science fiction movie with no visual effects. Despite being set in the future, Alphaville was clearly Paris and everyone was dressed in 60s fashions and driving 60s cars. The characters talk about traveling from galaxy to galaxy, but seem to do it by driving on highways. Has anyone else been confused by this disconnect that Godard clearly intended? [/quote] Godard is strange like that I think. Actually I've only seen one of his movies, Breathless. And it turned me off enough not have have sought out any of his other movies after that. Although if there was one movie I was interested in seeing of his next it actually was Alphaville. Do you like any of his other films? http://www.spout.com/groups/Friends_of_Foreign_Flicks/Has_anyone_seen_Alphaville/591/39181/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: unclefestering
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Post Date: 1/6/2009 11:11:59 PM
Body: The other night I watched Alphaville as part of an effort to watch movies that I always heard were good, but I had avoided for some reason or another. I really enjoyed the movie, but found myself confused and it took me a long time to realize why. I was watching a science fiction movie with no visual effects. Despite being set in the future, Alphaville was clearly Paris and everyone was dressed in 60s fashions and driving 60s cars. The characters talk about traveling from galaxy to galaxy, but seem to do it by driving on highways. Has anyone else been confused by this disconnect that Godard clearly intended?
]]>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:11:59 GMTunclefesteringFriends of Foreign Flicks1/6/2009 11:11:59 PMThe other night I watched Alphaville as part of an effort to watch movies that I always heard were good, but I had avoided for some reason or another. I really enjoyed the movie, but found myself confused and it took me a long time to realize why. I was watching a science fiction movie with no visual effects. Despite being set in the future, Alphaville was clearly Paris and everyone was dressed in 60s fashions and driving 60s cars. The characters talk about traveling from galaxy to galaxy, but seem to do it by driving on highways. Has anyone else been confused by this disconnect that Godard clearly intended? http://www.spout.com/blogs/smooth_j/archive/2008/11/29/37737.aspx Post By: Smooth_J
Post To: Smooth_J Blog
Post Date: 11/29/2008 2:50:26 AM
Body: As opposed to the equally bizarre City of Lost Children, Delicatessen is slightly less of a head trip. However, that's not to say that CoLT is pure head trip--it is just bizarre. I find myself lost for words attempting to describe the feel of the two films, the only two by Jeunet (and Caro) that I have seen. I suppose it suffices to say that they are remarkably dark yet infectiously upbeat, utterly grotesque yet unsettlingly whimsical. From Delicatessen's incredible opening sequence, we are introduced to a bleak, filth stained existence in which people and vermin are considered palpable sources of food. Social unrest and starvation are plaguing the city--the "outside"--and yet we never see what this outside world really is. The film is staged not unlike a play in that it primarily takes place in a single location, with only a certain number of set pieces and location set-ups. The first hour of the film is even the same group of 10 or so characters; no new ones are introduced until the plot thickens into a conspiracy involving a supposed terrorist group. But that's irrelevant. To know the film, you must see it, and enjoy every freakish moment of it. Despite lack of outward scope, Jeunet and Caro really manage to make use of what they have, and that is a group of very strange looking actors and some wildly inventive set pieces. The delicatessen and accompanying tenant houses are drab, dirty things, heightened by a brown mist that seems to envelope everything in the picture. The scheme is obviously filth, but it's the commitment to this theme that allows the viewer to look around the slight errors or budgetary constraints of the film. It's a humble film, but a great one, and a brilliant one. Some of the humor reminded me vaguely of the films of the Coen brothers--you feel disgusting for laughing, but you can't help it. The humor is so relentlessly pitch black that the only way to truly accept it is to put aside your gut and laugh hysterically. The movie's easier to handle if you look at it as pure comedy, but even this fact doesn't stop the film from sending a very serious, very unsettling message. I can't help but bring up the final scene, which is the highlight of the film for me, but I'll try to be careful as to not give too many plot points away. The entire movie is set up (satirically, of course) like a tragedy; the build-up is there, with the inevitably doomed characters, small scale set (as in a play), and seemingly doomed romance. I may be pushing it, but the butcher seems to be set up as a Julius Caesar figure, a brutal dictator in the secluded delicatessen. In the final shot of him, as he falls into his chair, I feel as though it is no accident that his apron takes on the appearance of a toga; and then, as if to soften the blow of this finale, his final breath resembles that of a frog croaking. And then there's the scene on the roof, where the two boys, who have remained on the fringe of the film throughout, climb to the roof to imitate Pinon and Dougnac playing their instruments, two humble conductors, with their childish view of things, observing the events but staying out of them. I could not help but to think of these two as Jeunet and Caro themselves, ending the film with their modest bows; and then the camera pans to the two leads, playing in their bizarre orchestral duo, to conclude the romance. What better way to end a dark, whimsical, unsettling, original comedy? See Brazil, Leon, City of Lost Children, 12 Monkeys, Alphaville even
]]>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 07:50:26 GMTSmooth_JSmooth_J Blog11/29/2008 2:50:26 AMAs opposed to the equally bizarre City of Lost Children, Delicatessen is slightly less of a head trip. However, that's not to say that CoLT is pure head trip--it is just bizarre. I find myself lost for words attempting to describe the feel of the two films, the only two by Jeunet (and Caro) that I have seen. I suppose it suffices to say that they are remarkably dark yet infectiously upbeat, utterly grotesque yet unsettlingly whimsical. From Delicatessen's incredible opening sequence, we are introduced to a bleak, filth stained existence in which people and vermin are considered palpable sources of food. Social unrest and starvation are plaguing the city--the "outside"--and yet we never see what this outside world really is. The film is staged not unlike a play in that it primarily takes place in a single location, with only a certain number of set pieces and location set-ups. The first hour of the film is even the same group of 10 or so characters; no new ones are introduced until the plot thickens into a conspiracy involving a supposed terrorist group. But that's irrelevant. To know the film, you must see it, and enjoy every freakish moment of it. Despite lack of outward scope, Jeunet and Caro really manage to make use of what they have, and that is a group of very strange looking actors and some wildly inventive set pieces. The delicatessen and accompanying tenant houses are drab, dirty things, heightened by a brown mist that seems to envelope everything in the picture. The scheme is obviously filth, but it's the commitment to this theme that allows the viewer to look around the slight errors or budgetary constraints of the film. It's a humble film, but a great one, and a brilliant one. Some of the humor reminded me vaguely of the films of the Coen brothers--you feel disgusting for laughing, but you can't help it. The humor is so relentlessly pitch black that the only way to truly accept it is to put aside your gut and laugh hysterically. The movie's easier to handle if you look at it as pure comedy, but even this fact doesn't stop the film from sending a very serious, very unsettling message. I can't help but bring up the final scene, which is the highlight of the film for me, but I'll try to be careful as to not give too many plot points away. The entire movie is set up (satirically, of course) like a tragedy; the build-up is there, with the inevitably doomed characters, small scale set (as in a play), and seemingly doomed romance. I may be pushing it, but the butcher seems to be set up as a Julius Caesar figure, a brutal dictator in the secluded delicatessen. In the final shot of him, as he falls into his chair, I feel as though it is no accident that his apron takes on the appearance of a toga; and then, as if to soften the blow of this finale, his final breath resembles that of a frog croaking. And then there's the scene on the roof, where the two boys, who have remained on the fringe of the film throughout, climb to the roof to imitate Pinon and Dougnac playing their instruments, two humble conductors, with their childish view of things, observing the events but staying out of them. I could not help but to think of these two as Jeunet and Caro themselves, ending the film with their modest bows; and then the camera pans to the two leads, playing in their bizarre orchestral duo, to conclude the romance. What better way to end a dark, whimsical, unsettling, original comedy? See Brazil, Leon, City of Lost Children, 12 Monkeys, Alphaville even http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Re_Re_Top_5_Bands_That_Get_Their_Names_From_Mo/190/23935/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: chrismorrell
Post To: Top 5
Post Date: 1/15/2008 7:22:27 PM
Body: Top five "from film" names..two i thought of straightaway from one film..(the) "Heaven Seventeen" and (the) "Sparks" ,from "A Clockwork Orange" Make that three "Moloko" who i rated,Roisin Murphy's old band ..again from "A Clockwork...""the Motorcycle boy" ,comes,of course,from one of my favourite Mickey Rourke movies "Rumble Fish"...they were an eighties Scottish indie band ... "Alphaville" are German Ultravox style synthpop .. So there's five for ya! As you have all said, "They Might Be Giants"fill the remit totally ...currently hear them every weekday evening ,playing the theme to" the /A Daily Show With John Stooowart" (better without the "writers" ) "Dog On Fire" by Bob Mould apparently... Uhuh? "Rumblefish" not listed on Spout? surely shome mistake?
]]>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:22:27 GMTchrismorrellTop 51/15/2008 7:22:27 PM Top five "from film" names..two i thought of straightaway from one film..(the) "Heaven Seventeen" and (the) "Sparks" ,from "A Clockwork Orange" Make that three "Moloko" who i rated,Roisin Murphy&#39;s old band ..again from "A Clockwork...""the Motorcycle boy" ,comes,of course,from one of my favourite Mickey Rourke movies "Rumble Fish"...they were an eighties Scottish indie band ... "Alphaville" are German Ultravox style synthpop .. So there&#39;s five for ya! As you have all said, "They Might Be Giants"fill the remit totally ...currently hear them every weekday evening ,playing the theme to" the /A Daily Show With John Stooowart" (better without the "writers" ) "Dog On Fire" by Bob Mould apparently... Uhuh? "Rumblefish" not listed on Spout? surely shome mistake? http://www.spout.com/groups/Top_5/Re_Re_Top_5_Bands_That_Get_Their_Names_From_Movie/190/23931/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: chrismorrell
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Post Date: 1/15/2008 6:43:38 PM
Body: I think "Adam ant" is just as likely to be just that...Adamant...and more likely to be a reference to a 70's BBC T.V . show called" Adam Adamant" ,featuring a "dashingly handsome" actor called Gerald Harper ..the character was a time travelling crime buster.
]]>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:43:38 GMTchrismorrellTop 51/15/2008 6:43:38 PMI think "Adam ant" is just as likely to be just that...Adamant...and more likely to be a reference to a 70&#39;s BBC T.V . show called" Adam Adamant" ,featuring a "dashingly handsome" actor called Gerald Harper ..the character was a time travelling crime buster. http://www.spout.com/groups/Totally_Over_rated/Re_Am_I_off/170/10265/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
Post To: Totally Over-rated
Post Date: 6/6/2007 12:55:11 PM
Body: [quote user="Jymkata"]Rizzo, I have seen Clean Slate or Coup de Torchon and I liked it very much. I think Tavernier is a very notable director, even though Captaine Conan and The Judge and the Assassin were far more difficult for me to follow.I must admit that I liked Mon Oncle and even Traffic more than Mr. Hulot's Holiday - both films make fun of that late 50's and 60's atomic age culture of crazy inventions. It's a world that is at least visually fun to visit. I should clarify that I don't hate Tati - I just don't see why respected critics fall all over themselves declaring his films masterpieces. To me, they are minor films. You might get more out of Alphaville than I did, but I found it almost incomprehensible. I missed a lot of the satire and clever references that I've read about in reviews of the film - it just seemed like a stylistic mess. Again, I don't hate Godard, his films contain something of slight interest to me, but I don't really enjoy them. There are so many other great French directors ( like the ones mentioned above) that I just don't want to waste my film-viewing time on Jean Luc's plotless ramblings.[/quote]Yeah I see what you are saying. It's not that all of their films are horrible, but you just can't see how people can revere them as much as some of the other fine Frech directors you metioned.
]]>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:55:11 GMTRisseladaTotally Over-rated6/6/2007 12:55:11 PM[quote user="Jymkata"]Rizzo, I have seen Clean Slate or Coup de Torchon and I liked it very much. I think Tavernier is a very notable director, even though Captaine Conan and The Judge and the Assassin were far more difficult for me to follow.I must admit that I liked Mon Oncle and even Traffic more than Mr. Hulot&#39;s Holiday - both films make fun of that late 50&#39;s and 60&#39;s atomic age culture of crazy inventions. It&#39;s a world that is at least visually fun to visit. I should clarify that I don&#39;t hate Tati - I just don&#39;t see why respected critics fall all over themselves declaring his films masterpieces. To me, they are minor films. You might get more out of Alphaville than I did, but I found it almost incomprehensible. I missed a lot of the satire and clever references that I&#39;ve read about in reviews of the film - it just seemed like a stylistic mess. Again, I don&#39;t hate Godard, his films contain something of slight interest to me, but I don&#39;t really enjoy them. There are so many other great French directors ( like the ones mentioned above) that I just don&#39;t want to waste my film-viewing time on Jean Luc&#39;s plotless ramblings.[/quote]Yeah I see what you are saying. It&#39;s not that all of their films are horrible, but you just can&#39;t see how people can revere them as much as some of the other fine Frech directors you metioned. http://www.spout.com/groups/Totally_Over_rated/Re_Am_I_off/170/10174/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Jymkata
Post To: Totally Over-rated
Post Date: 6/5/2007 9:47:36 AM
Body: [quote user="Risselada"][quote user="Jymkata"] [/quote] Jason, I identify with you, although maybe with not as much good reason, as I've only seen one film by each of those two directors. But in the case of Godard it was enough to keep me from looking into any more of his films since then. I thnk I saw Breathless about five years ago, and was highly disappointed. I've been actually trying to figure out which movie of his I'll see next when I finally do, but I'm really not sure still. Alphaville seems to be maybe the best candidate from what I've seen. Obviously you aren't the one to ask though.As for Tati, I have seen Mr. Hulot's Holiday, and while I thought it was good, I definitely was confused like you how he could compared with Keaten or Chaplin. Well, I think if you are looking to compare then you will be disappointed. But when I looked at the movie as more of a chance to just relax and go for a short little vacation of you own, it seemed to settle better. There's nothing fast paced or even what you would call side-splitting (maybe to some people). I had a few laugh out loud moments though, but I think overall it was just sort of a chuckle and then soaking in the experience. I do have Mon Oncle on my list, and I hope I'll be in the right frame of mind when I see it.To add to your francophilic list, have you seen much from Bertrand Tavernier? I just saw my first film of his this weekend, Clean Slate. It was notable.[/quote]Rizzo, I have seen Clean Slate or Coup de Torchon and I liked it very much. I think Tavernier is a very notable director, even though Captaine Conan and The Judge and the Assassin were far more difficult for me to follow.I must admit that I liked Mon Oncle and even Traffic more than Mr. Hulot's Holiday - both films make fun of that late 50's and 60's atomic age culture of crazy inventions. It's a world that is at least visually fun to visit. I should clarify that I don't hate Tati - I just don't see why respected critics fall all over themselves declaring his films masterpieces. To me, they are minor films. You might get more out of Alphaville than I did, but I found it almost incomprehensible. I missed a lot of the satire and clever references that I've read about in reviews of the film - it just seemed like a stylistic mess. Again, I don't hate Godard, his films contain something of slight interest to me, but I don't really enjoy them. There are so many other great French directors ( like the ones mentioned above) that I just don't want to waste my film-viewing time on Jean Luc's plotless ramblings.
]]>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:47:36 GMTJymkataTotally Over-rated6/5/2007 9:47:36 AM[quote user="Risselada"][quote user="Jymkata"] [/quote] Jason, I identify with you, although maybe with not as much good reason, as I&#39;ve only seen one film by each of those two directors. But in the case of Godard it was enough to keep me from looking into any more of his films since then. I thnk I saw Breathless about five years ago, and was highly disappointed. I&#39;ve been actually trying to figure out which movie of his I&#39;ll see next when I finally do, but I&#39;m really not sure still. Alphaville seems to be maybe the best candidate from what I&#39;ve seen. Obviously you aren&#39;t the one to ask though.As for Tati, I have seen Mr. Hulot&#39;s Holiday, and while I thought it was good, I definitely was confused like you how he could compared with Keaten or Chaplin. Well, I think if you are looking to compare then you will be disappointed. But when I looked at the movie as more of a chance to just relax and go for a short little vacation of you own, it seemed to settle better. There&#39;s nothing fast paced or even what you would call side-splitting (maybe to some people). I had a few laugh out loud moments though, but I think overall it was just sort of a chuckle and then soaking in the experience. I do have Mon Oncle on my list, and I hope I&#39;ll be in the right frame of mind when I see it.To add to your francophilic list, have you seen much from Bertrand Tavernier? I just saw my first film of his this weekend, Clean Slate. It was notable.[/quote]Rizzo, I have seen Clean Slate or Coup de Torchon and I liked it very much. I think Tavernier is a very notable director, even though Captaine Conan and The Judge and the Assassin were far more difficult for me to follow.I must admit that I liked Mon Oncle and even Traffic more than Mr. Hulot&#39;s Holiday - both films make fun of that late 50&#39;s and 60&#39;s atomic age culture of crazy inventions. It&#39;s a world that is at least visually fun to visit. I should clarify that I don&#39;t hate Tati - I just don&#39;t see why respected critics fall all over themselves declaring his films masterpieces. To me, they are minor films. You might get more out of Alphaville than I did, but I found it almost incomprehensible. I missed a lot of the satire and clever references that I&#39;ve read about in reviews of the film - it just seemed like a stylistic mess. Again, I don&#39;t hate Godard, his films contain something of slight interest to me, but I don&#39;t really enjoy them. There are so many other great French directors ( like the ones mentioned above) that I just don&#39;t want to waste my film-viewing time on Jean Luc&#39;s plotless ramblings. http://www.spout.com/groups/Totally_Over_rated/Re_Am_I_off/170/10070/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Risselada
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Post Date: 6/3/2007 11:20:04 PM
Body: [quote user="Jymkata"] I thought I'd add to this thread because it fits even though it doesn't continue the Christmas Story discussion. I officially give up on two french phenomenons loved by the critics : Godard and Tati. Godard must a matter of preference because I have seen plenty of his work and I remain underwhelmed. I bring Tati up because I just watched Traffic, which has been fawned over by the likes of Ebert and Vincent Canby, and I found it neither funny nor clever. This is the third Tati feature I've seen ( Mon Oncle & Mr. Hulot's Holiday) and I just don't get it. Now, I've come to realize that comedy is a matter of personal taste ( I no longer get upset when people say that Arrested Development or the BBC's The Office is not funny because of this realization), but Canby's claim that this film is hilarious and Tati has taken his place with Keaton and Chaplin is wildly off base to me. Keaton and Chaplin did much more than dress up in a trench coat and smoke a pipe while walking in to trouble. I should say that in all other ways I am a film francophile - I love Clouzot, Chabrol, Renoir, Melville, Bresson, Ophuls, Polanski, etc., but these two filmmakers have appeared on way too many "best of" lists for my taste. [/quote]Jason, I identify with you, although maybe with not as much good reason, as I've only seen one film by each of those two directors. But in the case of Godard it was enough to keep me from looking into any more of his films since then. I thnk I saw Breathless about five years ago, and was highly disappointed. I've been actually trying to figure out which movie of his I'll see next when I finally do, but I'm really not sure still. Alphaville seems to be maybe the best candidate from what I've seen. Obviously you aren't the one to ask though.As for Tati, I have seen Mr. Hulot's Holiday, and while I thought it was good, I definitely was confused like you how he could compared with Keaten or Chaplin. Well, I think if you are looking to compare then you will be disappointed. But when I looked at the movie as more of a chance to just relax and go for a short little vacation of you own, it seemed to settle better. There's nothing fast paced or even what you would call side-splitting (maybe to some people). I had a few laugh out loud moments though, but I think overall it was just sort of a chuckle and then soaking in the experience. I do have Mon Oncle on my list, and I hope I'll be in the right frame of mind when I see it.To add to your francophilic list, have you seen much from Bertrand Tavernier? I just saw my first film of his this weekend, Clean Slate. It was notable.
]]>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 03:20:04 GMTRisseladaTotally Over-rated6/3/2007 11:20:04 PM[quote user="Jymkata"] I thought I&#39;d add to this thread because it fits even though it doesn&#39;t continue the Christmas Story discussion. I officially give up on two french phenomenons loved by the critics : Godard and Tati. Godard must a matter of preference because I have seen plenty of his work and I remain underwhelmed. I bring Tati up because I just watched Traffic, which has been fawned over by the likes of Ebert and Vincent Canby, and I found it neither funny nor clever. This is the third Tati feature I&#39;ve seen ( Mon Oncle &amp; Mr. Hulot&#39;s Holiday) and I just don&#39;t get it. Now, I&#39;ve come to realize that comedy is a matter of personal taste ( I no longer get upset when people say that Arrested Development or the BBC&#39;s The Office is not funny because of this realization), but Canby&#39;s claim that this film is hilarious and Tati has taken his place with Keaton and Chaplin is wildly off base to me. Keaton and Chaplin did much more than dress up in a trench coat and smoke a pipe while walking in to trouble. I should say that in all other ways I am a film francophile - I love Clouzot, Chabrol, Renoir, Melville, Bresson, Ophuls, Polanski, etc., but these two filmmakers have appeared on way too many "best of" lists for my taste. [/quote]Jason, I identify with you, although maybe with not as much good reason, as I&#39;ve only seen one film by each of those two directors. But in the case of Godard it was enough to keep me from looking into any more of his films since then. I thnk I saw Breathless about five years ago, and was highly disappointed. I&#39;ve been actually trying to figure out which movie of his I&#39;ll see next when I finally do, but I&#39;m really not sure still. Alphaville seems to be maybe the best candidate from what I&#39;ve seen. Obviously you aren&#39;t the one to ask though.As for Tati, I have seen Mr. Hulot&#39;s Holiday, and while I thought it was good, I definitely was confused like you how he could compared with Keaten or Chaplin. Well, I think if you are looking to compare then you will be disappointed. But when I looked at the movie as more of a chance to just relax and go for a short little vacation of you own, it seemed to settle better. There&#39;s nothing fast paced or even what you would call side-splitting (maybe to some people). I had a few laugh out loud moments though, but I think overall it was just sort of a chuckle and then soaking in the experience. I do have Mon Oncle on my list, and I hope I&#39;ll be in the right frame of mind when I see it.To add to your francophilic list, have you seen much from Bertrand Tavernier? I just saw my first film of his this weekend, Clean Slate. It was notable. http://www.spout.com/groups/Viewing_with_a_purpose/Re_Recommended_movies_that_you_hate_hate_hate/288/8402/1/ShowPost.aspx Post By: Puhnner
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Post Date: 5/8/2007 8:50:53 AM
Body: I very muched liked both Jules and Jim and Breathless and rate them as a couple of the best films out there, although what I see as Jules and Jim's view of human beings leaves much to be desired. However, these 2 aside, I prefer Band of Outsiders even more and of course there is Alphaville.... and Le Petit Soldat...
]]>Tue, 08 May 2007 12:50:53 GMTPuhnnerViewing with a purpose5/8/2007 8:50:53 AMI very muched liked both Jules and Jim and Breathless and rate them as a couple of the best films out there, although what I see as Jules and Jim&#39;s view of human beings leaves much to be desired. However, these 2 aside, I prefer Band of Outsiders even more and of course there is Alphaville.... and Le Petit Soldat... http://www.spout.com/members/0/tags/future/MemberTagFilms.aspxfuture
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